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thehorse13

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While waiting for materials to continue my never ending list of home maintenance work, I decided to take some time to try to get the paint off of this No. 2 merchandiser. Thus far, I've counted 10 different paints and varnishes that were splashed on this poor little cabinet. Learning which ones come off, how much pressure to apply with my acetone swabs and which base materials are more forgiving has been a nail biting experience. For example, the original black paint is far more forgiving while the advertising laid over the original yellow door paint is least forgiving. This leaves me with one type of paint that will take much longer to deal with. Whatever the white paint is made of, I'm certain of one thing. Whatever was painted with it 70 years ago is likely still painted and holding strong. It is almost completely resistant to pure acetone and adding to the complexity, it is on the yellow original surface. This surface is far less forgiving to acetone. I've tried plastic razors and a pick with some slow success. I'm not ready to give up on it yet but for the moment, here's where I am. MUCH better than where I started. I will note that at some point, a solvent was splashed on the yellow doors which has unfortunately blended into the original paint. There will be no way to completely remove it but I can clean it up a little.
 

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I apologize in advance if this is too big or takes too many posts I wanted yall to have a clear image, This is the second time I have taken this pamphlet out of its packaging for fear of damaging it, But I also figured y'all would want to see it as well! Happy Friday y'all! (the picture it is sitting on for these is a sheet from the Standard oil Company 1940s "See your West" Lake Tahoe to keep it from touching anything)
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Well, I surely underestimated my stash of 20s/30s Blackhawk stuff that goes to this cabinet. lol. After a careful count, I have exactly 3 tools that go to this thing. A #911X ratchet, #500 speeder and #018 9/16 square drive socket. Looks like I'm going to be busy hunting down the remainder of missing merchandise.

In the good news dept., I was able to remove quite a few of the sinister white paint dots. For those following along, I had to revert to drastic measures. I used a razor blade and a steady hand. I will post some pics tomorrow sometime after I take some pictures. For now, gaze upon my healthy inventory! :D
 

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Another idea for white point I just thought of: try to warm it up with the hairdryer and see if plastic scraper would be able to scrape/remove it
 

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Well, I surely underestimated my stash of 20s/30s Blackhawk stuff that goes to this cabinet. lol. After a careful count, I have exactly 3 tools that go to this thing. A #911X ratchet, #500 speeder and #018 9/16 square drive socket. Looks like I'm going to be busy hunting down the remainder of missing merchandise.

In the good news dept., I was able to remove quite a few of the sinister white paint dots. For those following along, I had to revert to drastic measures. I used a razor blade and a steady hand. I will post some pics tomorrow sometime after I take some pictures. For now, gaze upon my healthy inventory! :D
Boy am I disappointed to hear the bad news. I was hoping to hear that you had duplicates of all those tools and were sending them my way lol
 

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Another idea for white point I just thought of: try to warm it up with the hairdryer and see if plastic scraper would be able to scrape/remove it
Well, I have good news. If you don't like to read long winded stories, I can simply say that I got 99% of the white paint off. I will post pics later on when the sun comes up and I'm done with my junk tour around town.

One night, while fooling around in my father's garage, I got paint drops on his beloved 1956 Thunderbird. In a panic, I called my friend and explained that I was in a bad spot and needed these paint drops off the car. My buddy was in an automotive program in our high school, which in my mind made him a pro.

My buddy arrived and I showed him the damage. In true Jeff Spicoli fashion, he said, "I can fix it."

He laid out his tools, which included a thicker than usual razor blade, a can of rubbing compound and a can of carnuba wax. He said that if you tip a razor too far one way or the other and the job will be ruined, but at just the right angle, magic will happen. Thirty minutes later, the paint drops were gone and the car looked perfect again.

Fast forward MANY years, and his technique was used here with great success. Aside from a very few spots where the paint actually blended with the original paint, I was able to remove the white drops.

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Here are a few pics of the merchandiser along with its new living quarters. They're only original once and at this point, I'm more than satisfied with the end result. I have plenty of tools to hunt and of course the near impossible to find topper sign but as you know, I will keep searching until I can search no more.
 

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Well, I have good news. If you don't like to read long winded stories, I can simply say that I got 99% of the white paint off. I will post pics later on when the sun comes up and I'm done with my junk tour around town.

One night, while fooling around in my father's garage, I got paint drops on his beloved 1956 Thunderbird. In a panic, I called my friend and explained that I was in a bad spot and needed these paint drops off the car. My buddy was in an automotive program in our high school, which in my mind made him a pro.

My buddy arrived and I showed him the damage. In true Jeff Spicoli fashion, he said, "I can fix it."

He laid out his tools, which included a thicker than usual razor blade, a can of rubbing compound and a can of carnuba wax. He said that if you tip a razor too far one way or the other and the job will be ruined, but at just the right angle, magic will happen. Thirty minutes later, the paint drops were gone and the car looked perfect again.

Fast forward MANY years, and his technique was used here with great success. Aside from a very few spots where the paint actually blended with the original paint, I was able to remove the white drops.

EDIT:
Here are a few pics of the merchandiser along with its new living quarters. They're only original once and at this point, I'm more than satisfied with the end result. I have plenty of tools to hunt and of course the near impossible to find topper sign but as you know, I will keep searching until I can search no more.
This came out amazing! Nice job. I can see you have some celebration materials all laid out to go. Your neighbors will be loving you 😂👍
 

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Well, I have good news. If you don't like to read long winded stories, I can simply say that I got 99% of the white paint off. I will post pics later on when the sun comes up and I'm done with my junk tour around town.
EDIT:
Here are a few pics of the merchandiser along with its new living quarters. They're only original once and at this point, I'm more than satisfied with the end result. I have plenty of tools to hunt and of course the near impossible to find topper sign but as you know, I will keep searching until I can search no more.

Well done Horseman! This is truly a fine cabinet and a great find.
 

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RE: Garage.Girl posts #2849 - #2853 - Blackhawk brochure:

I took the liberty of forwarding screenshots to ITCL and just got back the following response:

Mark Stansbury said:
Thanks, that is around 1930. I scanned a similar one. An ad in The Saturday Evening Post, June 7, 1930 says "Send folder on Socket Wrenches." https://archive.org/details/BlackhawkSocketWrenches/mode/1up
 

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Well, I have good news. If you don't like to read long winded stories, I can simply say that I got 99% of the white paint off. I will post pics later on when the sun comes up and I'm done with my junk tour around town.

One night, while fooling around in my father's garage, I got paint drops on his beloved 1956 Thunderbird. In a panic, I called my friend and explained that I was in a bad spot and needed these paint drops off the car. My buddy was in an automotive program in our high school, which in my mind made him a pro.

My buddy arrived and I showed him the damage. In true Jeff Spicoli fashion, he said, "I can fix it."

He laid out his tools, which included a thicker than usual razor blade, a can of rubbing compound and a can of carnuba wax. He said that if you tip a razor too far one way or the other and the job will be ruined, but at just the right angle, magic will happen. Thirty minutes later, the paint drops were gone and the car looked perfect again.

Fast forward MANY years, and his technique was used here with great success. Aside from a very few spots where the paint actually blended with the original paint, I was able to remove the white drops.

EDIT:
Here are a few pics of the merchandiser along with its new living quarters. They're only original once and at this point, I'm more than satisfied with the end result. I have plenty of tools to hunt and of course the near impossible to find topper sign but as you know, I will keep searching until I can search no more.
But, I love your long winded stories.. Especially when they involve tool hunting in the backwoods. As you will be searching for tools to fill that merchandiser maybe some more stories will happen along the way.. Great job on the paint spots BTW. :)
 

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But, I love your long winded stories.. Especially when they involve tool hunting in the backwoods. As you will be searching for tools to fill that merchandiser maybe some more stories will happen along the way.. Great job on the paint spots BTW. :)
Well, most of my stories end in absolute failure these days. It's gotten exponentially harder to find things since the pandemic. The new reality is that yard sales have Ebay comps taped to the items. Pawn shops are just intake facilities for online sales, flea markets have dwindled in size and inventory. On and on.

Now, all of that said, I still grind away hoping to find things. This latest Blackhawk cabinet is a perfect example. Everything just lined up perfectly and I have an item that I long since wrote off as an impossible find. Hopefully I get the same fairytale ending on a pre war Blackhawk red rover or any bottom roll cab.
 

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Stuff is still out there, it is just a bit more work to dig it out. I don't know if it is eBay or just the effects of time. We are, after all, getting further and further away from when the tools we love and admire were made.

That said, I too am looking for a Red Rover, and I know it is out there! I get the next best coast one, you get the next beast coast one!
 

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Stuff is still out there, it is just a bit more work to dig it out. I don't know if it is eBay or just the effects of time. We are, after all, getting further and further away from when the tools we love and admire were made.

That said, I too am looking for a Red Rover, and I know it is out there! I get the next best coast one, you get the next beast coast one!
I did find a red rover via our very own Ricky Joe. All that remains is closing the deal and going to get it. I typically don't count things as a success until the item is sitting in the horse stable though.
 

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I hear you about that. One thing I learned when I was fooling around with vintage, oddball motorcycles was that the best way to find this kind of thing is to tape into the network. And that is GJ.
Yep. I have a pretty healthy nationwide network. Some of it was built right here through fellow GJ members.
 

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I hear you about that. One thing I learned when I was fooling around with vintage, oddball motorcycles was that the best way to find this kind of thing is to tape into the network. And that is GJ.
Absolutely. Just telling people you are looking for certain things and not being in a hurry can really help you acquire things over time.
 

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Hello, I'm new to the GJ and i'm looking for some info, of course. I have stumbled across a Blackhawk display board or two with tools and am curious how to determine a fair price. I do not know much about vintage tool collections, but am impressed by this thread. From what I've seen in this thread, i believe I've come to the right place. Any body willing to help a guy out?
 

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Neat to look at but well past the valuable years. This is several acquisitions later, likely the early National Hand Tools era. That dates them to the 1980s. Most Blackhawk collectors see the cutoff period as 1955, when New Britain became the first of a hand full of owners. Aside from the novelty of having the majority of the tools, I don't see any real value here.

Of course that's my assessment. Others may have different thoughts.
 
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