FlyOverStateFarmboy
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Glad to hear you got the B running again! Things like that are frustrating. Now you need to find a JD No. 5 or 38 sickle mower for it.
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Farmboy,
It took a little more work and fiddling to get it running but I was able to take it for a spin this weekend. I actually have a sickle mower I'll try to get pictures to show you, it needs a little work though.
All,
Prior to driving the GJDB I had to move my trailer out of the shed to do some other chores, I usually get it lined up great side to side but am a few feet short so this time I decided to back up a little further than normal when this happened:
Yep I'll never be able to do that again on the first try.
As mentioned above I took Gramp's JDB for a spin this weekend, it took some fiddling and a jump start or two but it is ran just fine other than not really being able to clutch it all the way. The term grind it until you find it held true until I figured out a few tricks. I couldn't cruise alone so I picked up these two cuties:
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We had a pretty good time at the speed of smell aka 2 mph (~3.2 kph). They were both a little scared of the noise but overcame that fear in short order when we started moving.
Next up on the to do list was to work on my blast cabinet, I took that pile of wood from earlier and did this:
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Then this:
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With a little caulking to help keep the dust in:
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I also added this lip on the front (door) to help keep the dust in as well, we will see if it works at all:
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You can see it is on casters, those are left overs from one of the HF 44" toolboxes I have inset in the walls. The toughest part is what is ahead of me now, the cone or funnel to go in the bottom. There are tons of angles to deal with and I'm not sure how that will all play out just yet.
JB
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JB, I like the idea of a timber frame for your blast cabinet, different I must say but looks fantastic.
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So that's what all that wood was for? Are you going to use metal on the bottom and back side? Not sure I've seen very many made from wood. Where did you get this idea? What kind of lights are you going to use? I bet some LED's would light that box up?
JB, I like the idea of a timber frame for your blast cabinet, different I must say but looks fantastic.
Regards
Thanks for the kind words, and you are correct, it will be different. I would have rather made it out of metal, but I don't have a very accurate way of cutting miter joints in metal and I was afraid it would be horrendous looking, expensive, and extremely heavy by the time I was done. This project is different than most of mine in that I'm making a lot of it up as I go, which means I will surely make mistakes, but at this time I don't have the hours needed for accurate design of the entire project. I'm ordering the hard parts today so within a week or so I should have some more progress to show on it.
So that's what all that wood was for? Are you going to use metal on the bottom and back side? Not sure I've seen very many made from wood. Where did you get this idea? What kind of lights are you going to use? I bet some LED's would light that box up?
Herb,
That is what all of the wood was for, the only metal will be for the grating at the bottom as of now, everything else will be wood. This may turn into a complete failure and I'll have to hold my head in shame around everyone. I am just much more comfortable working with wood and have more tools for that as well. I need to do more metal projects to get that same confidence level there as well. I've seen others made of wood before in places on the internet so I really can't say where the idea first came from. I have a few more T-8 4 bulb 4' fixtures I've converted that I'll most likely use, but I do have a twin tube 8' T-12 I could use as well, maybe all three.
I'm sure a couple of the LED's like you have would brighten it right up. 
JB
Well I've been around a couple of blast cabinets in the old days.
I highly suggest metal on the back side. You be surprised how much damage the media does to wood. If you use sand, the rocks are so hard they just bounce around and it will eat the wood really fast. On the lights you need some glass(safety) or plexie glass. Need to have a way to remove it and replace it, cause it gets cloudy pretty fast.
I have lots of metal cutting tools I could help you with. I have a plasma cutter, cutting torches, wire and ark welders. I have cut off saws, chop saws, what else do ya need?
I highly suggest metal on the back side. You be surprised how much damage the media does to wood. If you use sand, the rocks are so hard they just bounce around and it will eat the wood really fast. On the lights you need some glass(safety) or plexie glass. Need to have a way to remove it and replace it, cause it gets cloudy pretty fast. I have lots of metal cutting tools I could help you with. I have a plasma cutter, cutting torches, wire and ark welders. I have cut off saws, chop saws, what else do ya need?
Herb,
Thanks for the advise one the metal back. I'll try to get something this week to take care of that. I have grinders, a chop saw, MIG welder, and hack saw. I'd like to have a brake, sheer, punch, .... LOL I'll look into the light stuff, I have the normal shields that go over the bulbs but just as you say they won't last long in there. I hope this doesn't turn into a giant failed experiment, but if it does I'll add some shelved and have a portable table.
JB
Thanks for the advise one the metal back. I'll try to get something this week to take care of that. I have grinders, a chop saw, MIG welder, and hack saw.
I'd like to have a brake, sheer, punch, .... LOL I'll look into the light stuff, I have the normal shields that go over the bulbs but just as you say they won't last long in there. I hope this doesn't turn into a giant failed experiment, but if it does I'll add some shelved and have a portable table.JB
Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look. After thinking about it a little more I feel like even if the wood gets destroyed it wouldn't be all that difficult to replace. Saying that I did cave last night and went by to pick up some sheet metal to line the inside. Well they closed at 5:30 and I arrived at 5:00. Obviously they were closed for the day and I was left beating my head on the door. I dislike making a special trip somewhere with my truck and trailer as well as taking off of work early only to find I've wasted a trip. Good news is I was able to do some math and make one of the funnels.
JB
Good news is I was able to do some math and make one of the funnels. JB
First of all a little background, I have never been great with compound angles for some reason I've always struggled with them even when I was taking engineering classes they still made my head hurt trying to figure them out. Well nothing has changed, haha and to prove that here I was trying to remember how to calculate even simple angles:
View media item 58801The compound angle would be that little trapazoid on the bottom right of the picture, luckily I had enough scrap 2x4's I was able to guess and check until I had it right.
JB
View media item 58801The compound angle would be that little trapazoid on the bottom right of the picture, luckily I had enough scrap 2x4's I was able to guess and check until I had it right.
JB
JB, you might look at the tech and fab section, and search for blast cabinet. Then look for chris fresh, page 4 #64 picture. Hes shows how he did what you are trying to do. I don't know how to attach that page here to make it ez for you to see Being ignorant at some things is painful
Being ignorant at some things is painfulJB, I hope you don't mind me posting this in your thread. I too was curious about the hopper, as I plan to build a cabinet myself, down the road, so I researched the thread that BUGTHUG referenced and am dropping a link here since so many of us follow your build:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237444&highlight=blast&page=4
Post 64 shows the hopper being built and talks about how.
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http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237444&highlight=blast&page=4
Post 64 shows the hopper being built and talks about how.
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BUGTHUG, just highlight all of the text in the browser where the page address is listed and paste it into your post. This works well on computers, however, not easily done with smartphone and some apps such as Tapatalk. If you need specific help, shoot me a PM and I'll get you squared away.
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Thanks for adding the link, I was able to scan through some of it today, the only thing he didn't mention in detail was how he cam up with the angles he cut the sides of the "triangles" to, that was the toughest part of my hopper. I ended up using 27 degrees as when using my test pieces that seemed the closest, in actuality I would have been closer to 30 degrees for those and 50 for the top and bottom. If I had a few spare minutes I could calculate it, and may be even able to help you out if you would like, just shoot me a PM, but it may take a day or two before I can get to it.
JB
taumac
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The blast cabinet is a interesting project. How many money do you think you'll have wrapped up in it when your finish vs buying one off CL?
It really depends on what version you are referring to, this first round I'm only planning to install one window and set of gloves just to get a feel for how things are going to work and make any modifications now before I "finish" it rather than later when changes will take longer and be more expensive. At first I will also just use a shop vac to clear out any dust. I'll have a total of $700 in this version but probably could have done it cheaper with different components.
The final version will probably either build or buy a dust extractor, install the second window and set of gloves as well as possibly order a second gun to reach the other side of the cabinet. Then lastly I'll decorate it to blend in with TBW a bit more. I could easily sink another $700 into it depending on how far I take it. The biggest advantage this one will have over a CL blast cabinet is the size. I wanted to be able to put anything in it I could lift, a complete motorcycle frame would easily fit with no hassles.
Nice job!
From the master of rebuild and repair, I'm honored to have you comment on my thread. Thank you very much!
Keep moving forward,
JB
taumac
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I'm definitely following your vision now. I can surly see a size issue with fitting bigger items. For the price your spending to have a blast cabinet to fit about anything you need to put in there seems worth the time and effort your putting in.
BuickFarmer
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Oh MAN, I can not believe I am just now finding you, especially after your many visits and nice comments to my thread, my apologies for not checking in sooner! Have not read all, but definitely intend to! Love the house and acreage and the barn is outa sight! And love that wall! And the little Cobra, awesome! I had and use to race a Triumph GT-6+ back in the 70's, FUN! Again,sorry for being late, just so many garages, SO little time!
Taumac,
That is pretty much it, I won't have much more money into this than buying a much smaller one on CL but will have tons more capacity. If in the future this is just too big to really be of use I can always cut it in have and sell the other side. LOL
Farmer,
Not a problem, I'm glad you have taken the time to read as much as you have and thank you for the kind comments.
Speaking of the cobra, I have some good news, I received a phone call last week that my rear end is ready for action. Now before you sickos make any comments about things off color I mean the 9" axle package I ordered.
I have to pick it up which will be about a 7 hour round trip so I plan to do that in the next couple of weeks which is not a problem luckily. Also I have a couple of new additions to my growing heard to share with you, but for now I'll keep you guessing as I don't have photos of them. 
JB
I wanted to show y'all the sickle mower I talked to Flyoverstatefarmboy, here it is in all of its glory:
It may take a little work before it is ready to use and will be tough to get out of the tree that has grown all around it. It is in the back portion of our place and will stay there indefinitely as far as I'm concerned.
The two new additions to my heard, well I forgot to get a photo of one of them, but you will get the idea. They are both returns as either my wife or myself have owned them in the past. This was mine from 5 years ago and has been owned by one of my younger brothers in the meantime:
That is right another ****** ZX2, basically the reason I picked it up was because it was cheap and everything works. I'm putting it up for sale soon though as I don't really have a use for it.
The other was my wife's car that she drove in college an up until we were engaged. It is a 97 Saturn SL1 with ~95 squirrels on meth under the hood allowing it to travel at nearly the speed of smell.
The good news is everything works and it gets 40 mpg when driving like a fat kid (me) trying to get to a buffet before closing time. (Don't judge me, I made it and the food was delicious.) I'll hang onto this one as it is worth more to me as a 3rd backup (with A/C) than it would be to anyone else.
Yes I know I have a problem, I now have 7 vehicles at my house if you count the hearse, and my wife only has one of the others. Is there and CAA (Crappy Automobile Anonymous) meeting coming up I'm running late for?
It may take a little work before it is ready to use and will be tough to get out of the tree that has grown all around it. It is in the back portion of our place and will stay there indefinitely as far as I'm concerned.
The two new additions to my heard, well I forgot to get a photo of one of them, but you will get the idea. They are both returns as either my wife or myself have owned them in the past. This was mine from 5 years ago and has been owned by one of my younger brothers in the meantime:
That is right another ****** ZX2, basically the reason I picked it up was because it was cheap and everything works. I'm putting it up for sale soon though as I don't really have a use for it.
The other was my wife's car that she drove in college an up until we were engaged. It is a 97 Saturn SL1 with ~95 squirrels on meth under the hood allowing it to travel at nearly the speed of smell.
The good news is everything works and it gets 40 mpg when driving like a fat kid (me) trying to get to a buffet before closing time. (Don't judge me, I made it and the food was delicious.) I'll hang onto this one as it is worth more to me as a 3rd backup (with A/C) than it would be to anyone else.Yes I know I have a problem, I now have 7 vehicles at my house if you count the hearse, and my wife only has one of the others.
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Olinrj
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Good job with the vehicle additions! I've become a fan of saturns, had mine for over 5 years now. Put over 80,000 miles on it with no major problems. Definitely lacking in power.
I wanted to show y'all the sickle mower I talked to Flyoverstatefarmboy, here it is in all of its glory:
I don't see no sickle mower?? Looks like something a tornado left behind
My wife first owned this Saturn starting in 2007 or so, I have no idea how many miles she put on it or how many my brother did but the only things that have been replaced are the battery, brakes, tires, alternator, and the water pump. The water pump was just because he thought it would be a good idea and the part was cheap. I'll start driving it most of the time but I have a feeling the clutch is getting low on life. Do you know if I'd have to pull the engine to change that?
I wanted to show y'all the sickle mower I talked to Flyoverstatefarmboy, here it is in all of its glory:
I don't see no sickle mower?? Looks like something a tornado left behind
I fixed the picture for you Herb, it looks like it endured some sort of tragic farming accident that is for sure. There really isn't anything left of it, but if that tree ever dies I'll dig it out of there.
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Yes it sure is, there is a bar right in the middle of the tree where it splits. I'll try to clean up around it a little more and get some other pictures of that area. Some parts have sunk into the ground and can have roots growing all around them so it will not be moving anytime soon.
JB
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Olinrj
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From what I know, the engine doesn't need to come out for the clutch replacement. You may need to drop the transmission below to get at everything. I haven't done the clutch on my car yet and I don't feel any slipping. I had a 95 pontiac sunfire that needed a new automatic transmission, used 4x6 timbers to support the motor from above to replace the trans, you could probably do the same with the Saturn. Luckily, the clutch kits are pretty cheap. Have you checked out saturnfans.com yet? Great forum with plenty of knowledgeable people in the S-series subforum.
I have seen some of saturnfans forum, but haven't spent much time there. I know some FWD cars you can get by with just dropping the trans and not pulling the motor. My yellow car was not that way for me at least. So far it isn't slipping but the clutch pedal disengages vary early leading me to believe there isn't much material left on the clutch. I don't plan to replace it until I either know it is slipping or it is completely gone, non-RCM if you will.
JB
JB
Olinrj
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The pedal disengagement height may just be a saturn thing. My wife won't drive my car because the clutch feel is so light, with a high let-off point.
That certainly could be the case, I don't plan to replace it either way unless it becomes and issue. Worst case scenario I get stuck between home and work and have to get a ride to my truck to trailer it home to fix it. Not a big deal, with good luck I plan to drive this car past the 1/4 million mile mark which should be easy enough.
I have some more to report on the blast cabinet, I'm slowly getting there, very slowly. This is where I am pretty much now:
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I have the other side on and both of them all caulked up I started on the lights and outlets this morning but didn't get far enough to warrant pictures. Here are some other pictures of the hoppers I built. They will have hinged doors that will open down to drop out any media that would collect down there.
View media item 59000They aren't that heavy, but are awkward enough that it was impossible to fit them up without the boards under them to hold them in place.
Here is what I did on the inside to give the corners a little more rigidity:
View media item 59001Please excuse the 2x6 I had to use, I would have been at a standstill until I was able to pick up a 2x6 so I used what was on hand.
If you've ever wondered what $2,400 worth of Wilton vises look like here you are:
Sadly those aren't mine for use at home, they are for some projects I'm working on at work. A man can dream can't he?
JB
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Yowza! $800 a pop. I had no idea.
These were brand new from McMaster Carr, they tend to gold plate everything as they send them out the door. Also they are the big 8" Tradesman Bullet vises we plan to use outdoors in a pretty rough environment. I wouldn't want to use my own personal tools the way these will be used though.
JB
BuickFarmer
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Nice work on the blast cabinet. Maybe I missed it, what will you be using it for
Grumblebum
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Looking good JB.
A random thought for your cabinet - could you line the inside back and side wall with some thin sheets of galvanised tin or something to help longevity?
You will have to pop a pic up of those vises in action they look cool just going on the diagram on the side of the box.
Cheers GB.
A random thought for your cabinet - could you line the inside back and side wall with some thin sheets of galvanised tin or something to help longevity?
You will have to pop a pic up of those vises in action they look cool just going on the diagram on the side of the box.
Cheers GB.