oldironfarmer
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JB came by for a visit to my place today.
What a great guy!! Thanks for stopping by for real, JB
What a great guy!! Thanks for stopping by for real, JB
Above 1200 Sq/FT The Warthog Hidey Hole
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Growler,
Thanks for taking the time to read along and to comment, I know it is no longer a small feat to do that, this thread has gotten bigger and longer than I'd expected it to. I have so much more to do in the future I sometimes have trouble knowing what to work on when I go out there.
I advice this time of year is to get your shop insulated and heated, we are on about a week in a row with lows in the teens, and some of the highs of only in the 30's. Do you have a thread started on your shop? If not get one going, you'll be surprised about what all information you'll find on this site and after a few months/years it is great to look back and see how far you've come.
JB
Growlertdi
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No thread yet, Im about to go on my Holiday break and perhaps Ill take the time to document where I am now with my shop in a new thread.
Like you said, its a big metal box with no insulation and it gets COLD in there. makes for no fun trying to get things done.
Like you said, its a big metal box with no insulation and it gets COLD in there. makes for no fun trying to get things done.
Sounds like you are in the perfect place to do the insulation then, you will thank yourself many times over if you get that done now. It would take a lot of effort for me to insulate mine now and I just don't know that I'll ever do it. At least not before I fix all of the leaks.
JB
JB
JB came by for a visit to my place today.
What a great guy!! Thanks for stopping by for real, JB
Andy,
Oops, I missed your post earlier, thank you for the kind comments, it was a real pleasure for me to finely meet you.
Hey thanks Brent, I didn't notice until just now. It just goes to show you that people really will read anything on the internet even if it is just my dribble from time to time when I actually do something.
I have a little bit of progress to post, Saturday morning I pulled B.B.B. into the shop to remove the cab as a buying was coming along to pick it up:
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It was really easy to remove, steering shaft, E-brake cable, master cylinder, power steering hoses, and the 6 body bolts. I put the arms on the corners and away it went. Dropped it on their trailer and I had some more money in my pocket. I also took a load of scrap to the scrap yard and kept some of the cast aluminum to trade to Andy (Oldironfarmer) for some scrap metal, I mean wood stove. Yep that is right, I now have a little heat in The Warthog Hidey Hole! But first a word about Andy, he is truly a great man, very kind and knowledgeable, we had too much fun talking to think to take pictures to prove it, but I do have these two:
He is such a great guy to not only people but also animals, he let this owl (?) build a next on his favorite J.D. hat he didn't even know he owned. He was also kind enough to let me drive Bob his Bobcat to help feed hay:
That was my first time ever driving a skid-steer of any kind and I really enjoyed it even if it was only ~20°F outside. He was also kind enough to make a grilled cheese for lunch for us and he even ate the one he dropped on the floor. What a guy I tell you what!
So onto the stove, here it is:
It is set up for convection heating and I only needed it for radiant heat so I pulled all the external panels off and installed the stove pipe:
Pretty easy, and would have gone faster if I could have felt my fingers, that was soon resolved:
Nice and warm by the stove, I could still see my breath while working on Herb's Hearse on the lift, but I at least had a place to go warm up without having to go inside. Speaking of Herb's Hearse I did a little more finishing touches on the rear suspension and brakes, picked up everything for the fuel line except for the hose.
I then tried to install the fuel tank but couldn't figure it out so he is trying to find some old pictures and parts to help get me in the right direction. It sounds easy but where the tank was mounted before there isn't the "normal" mounting points for a gas tank, and the filler neck doesn't line up.Lastly I worked on the "new" 80 gallon compressor. I swapped the single phase motor onto it for the 3 phase it had before. Wired everything up and gave it a test run while I stayed way clear in case it decided to blow a big hole in the side.
It worked great and help pressure easily, it is also way quieter than my existing 60 gallon. I'll now tear it down a little to get it cleaned out, add the fittings I need and get it mounted in the corner of the shop that I think I will now call tornado ally because of all the air tanks, compressors, and lines that will be running everywhere.View media item 65809
I did a little cleaning as well and a little polishing on my fathers drill press. I'll get a write up put together on that project at some point, but it has a long way to go and lots of work ahead of me.
Lastly, speaking of motors, the local motor shop charges $25 to check out a motor, the A.C. motor needed two new capacitors and the drill needed bearings, the table saw needed a good cleaning. So for all three motors it was just over $100, less than I paid for a 1 hp motor last year, not bad!
JB
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shortykorte
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I knew I'd subscribed to this thread but hadn't seen any alerts. After seeing you post on others threads, I check and the subscription alert was set to none.
Looks like you've been busy so will go back and catch up. Hope you post pics of you in your new pretty in pink carriage.
Looks like you've been busy so will go back and catch up. Hope you post pics of you in your new pretty in pink carriage.
Shorty,
I've had that same thing happen to me in other threads, luckily I think I'm about back on track now with most of them. I have been busy but don't seem to get a lot done for some reason. I'll see what I can do about getting in that carriage, but no guarantees I'll be able to fit.
JB
I've had that same thing happen to me in other threads, luckily I think I'm about back on track now with most of them. I have been busy but don't seem to get a lot done for some reason. I'll see what I can do about getting in that carriage, but no guarantees I'll be able to fit.
JB
rmalkow2
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For some reason I could only see the pic of the truck cab on the lift and the air compressor in your prior post but no pics of the wood stove. But regardless it's good news that you now have a place to at least warm yourself up while working in the garage space. And it sounds like you had a fun trip get that stove.
rmalkow2,
I don't know what happened there, but it is working for me now too. I know when I load them like I did there they don't show up unless you are logged in to G.J. I did have a hoot going to pick it up, and am very grateful for the hospitality Andy showed me. I've been doing a little work in T.W.H.H.H., but not too much as it has been a busy week. I tried to hold off on the compressor but I'm taking the chance to brush it off and coat it with spray bomb before putting it in service. I got it cleaned out this morning so it should be good to go shortly.
I'm waiting on some parts for Herb's Hearse and trying to figure out the gas tank as well, it will be a challenge!
Great news from Herb, he finely found that 6v battery he has been looking for since last winter.
He bought another one and dropped it off already so I'll be ready to try to start it soon. JB
mybigwarwagon
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I have a friend in Texas who was complaining about it being 52 degrees today. I bet he would have died in 20.
1/2 Cup
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JB came by for a visit to my place today.
What a great guy!! Thanks for stopping by for real, JB
Great to read about..
rmalkow2
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Pics are showing up now. Nice little stove and great to be able to warm up a bit. With temp all the way up to 27 today its a proper heat wave here. I may actually get something done out in the garage.
War Wagon,
I know what you mean, it is just too cold to me, but to those in the north or N.E. this weekend 20°F would be a heat wave. One of my friends in Billings, Mt. said they hit -19°F (-28°C) with -40° F or C windchill. WOOF, no thanks. Thanks for stopping by for a bit.
Great to read about..
1/2,
It was a great trip and one I'll have to repeat when the weather warms up just a bit.
rmalkow2,
Thanks for the props on the stove! While working out there this weekend in the mornings I had to burning full bore! It was -1°F (-18°C) with -14°F (-26°C) windchill Sunday morning.
All,
Of course with the fine weather we have been having the dishwasher picked yesterday to die, luckily I had bought a nice used one a few weeks ago and put it in service. Sadly the control valve on the new one had some water in it when stored so it was frozen and broke. Swapped that out for the other and I'm back in business! More updates to come shortly.
JB
To start this weekend off I started to install the air fittings onto the new Dayton compressor and IngersolRand tank. I got a little carried away and stripped the entire tank and decided to paint it now:
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Note the drain line on the bottom, I chose this piping for three reason, one I had it on hand, and two it had a bigger bore than the previous drain, and three, the valve didn't leak. Sadly it was too long and was going to hit the ground, no problem I thought I'll put 2x4's under the legs as I roll it over and keep it safe until I install the hockey puck feet. That didn't work and I broke it off in the elbow. Either way I got to painting:
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It came out pretty good and the INgersolRand plaque is in good shape:
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And finely it is all put back together waiting on the new longer belts to arrive:
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Also note the fittings coming off of the tank on the right side, I have 1" pipe going to a Tee then reducing down to a 3/4" brass ball valve. On the other leg of the tee I reduced down to 1/2" pipe and a tee, off of that there is the relief valve (R.V.)and a pressure gauge. I wanted as little as possible between the tank and the first block valve in case I need to do some work down stream, but always have the R.V. there to protect the tank. Speaking of R.V.'s, I received and installed a new R.V. on the old 60 gallon tank as it kept popping and wouldn't re-seat for some unknown reason.
from this 3/4" valve I'll eventually feed the spare 60 gallon tank and feed that same tank from the old 60 gallon compressor. I'll then pull off of that tank and fee the S.A.S., at least that is the plan, we will see if I do that or not.
When I went out to the W.H.H.H. Sunday morning the door didn't want to open, the handle didn't even turn. I had to find alternative means of entry then was able to take the door off to get at the lock set. Turns out it had loosened up inside and the pieces on the left and top left were all in the wrong spot. I eventually figured it out and got it back into working order again. That was a fun project while I waited on the stove to heat up 3 feet away from me.
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Lastly the brake parts I was missing for Herb's Hearse will be here today so I can get that one more little project wrapped up. I'm still thinking about the fuel tank, if I use the one he supplied I have no choice but to cut two holes in the underside of the car and that would leave the two existing holes there. Then I'd have to either make a pipe that I might not be able to feed through the holes to the existing gas cap location, or use a flex hose of some kind. Neither of which I'm excited about. I still have some pondering to do and need to get the hose still.
JB
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Note the drain line on the bottom, I chose this piping for three reason, one I had it on hand, and two it had a bigger bore than the previous drain, and three, the valve didn't leak. Sadly it was too long and was going to hit the ground, no problem I thought I'll put 2x4's under the legs as I roll it over and keep it safe until I install the hockey puck feet. That didn't work and I broke it off in the elbow.
Either way I got to painting:View media item 65924
It came out pretty good and the INgersolRand plaque is in good shape:
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And finely it is all put back together waiting on the new longer belts to arrive:
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Also note the fittings coming off of the tank on the right side, I have 1" pipe going to a Tee then reducing down to a 3/4" brass ball valve. On the other leg of the tee I reduced down to 1/2" pipe and a tee, off of that there is the relief valve (R.V.)and a pressure gauge. I wanted as little as possible between the tank and the first block valve in case I need to do some work down stream, but always have the R.V. there to protect the tank. Speaking of R.V.'s, I received and installed a new R.V. on the old 60 gallon tank as it kept popping and wouldn't re-seat for some unknown reason.
from this 3/4" valve I'll eventually feed the spare 60 gallon tank and feed that same tank from the old 60 gallon compressor. I'll then pull off of that tank and fee the S.A.S., at least that is the plan, we will see if I do that or not.
When I went out to the W.H.H.H. Sunday morning the door didn't want to open, the handle didn't even turn. I had to find alternative means of entry then was able to take the door off to get at the lock set. Turns out it had loosened up inside and the pieces on the left and top left were all in the wrong spot. I eventually figured it out and got it back into working order again. That was a fun project while I waited on the stove to heat up 3 feet away from me.
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Lastly the brake parts I was missing for Herb's Hearse will be here today so I can get that one more little project wrapped up. I'm still thinking about the fuel tank, if I use the one he supplied I have no choice but to cut two holes in the underside of the car and that would leave the two existing holes there. Then I'd have to either make a pipe that I might not be able to feed through the holes to the existing gas cap location, or use a flex hose of some kind. Neither of which I'm excited about. I still have some pondering to do and need to get the hose still.
JB
madoc1
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that ir tank looks swell. now you need to clean up the motor! 
the comp doesn't look too bad. i forgot, how large is it? sure wish i had it. only 21 here today.
jim
the comp doesn't look too bad. i forgot, how large is it? sure wish i had it. only 21 here today.jim
that ir tank looks swell. now you need to clean up the motor!
jim
I sure thought about tearing into the motor and compressor and painting them too, but at the end of the day they both work fine, and don't look that bad. I'm sure I'll still over restore some equipment, but with the motor especially I'm scared I'd do too much and actually break it if I went to town on it.
It is good for ~22 cfm at 90 psi if I remember correctly. It should do the job and combine that with the smaller compressor at ~13 cfm also at 90 psi I'll have 35 cfm of air available when needed along with 200 gallons of reserve capacity. Hence the name tornado ally. JB
don long
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looks like somebody has been busy having fun out in the shop
Merry Christmas
Don
Merry Christmas
Don
Lyndon
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OK, so it's the Tuesday before Christmas (I hear that's cause for a holiday somewhere ). And the sun is long gone, so a few drinks have been had.
So JB, while I may not contribute here a lot, I do appreciate what you're doing (for you and for us) - and I wish you, and yours, a whole heartedly fantastic and prosperous Christmas.
I cannot describe (in manly words) what this site means to me. More power to You and yours.
Have a great Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.
Lyndon
Nearly Fatherly Christmas . . . .
So JB, while I may not contribute here a lot, I do appreciate what you're doing (for you and for us) - and I wish you, and yours, a whole heartedly fantastic and prosperous Christmas.
I cannot describe (in manly words) what this site means to me. More power to You and yours.
Have a great Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.
Lyndon
Nearly Fatherly Christmas . . . .
Vieux,
Thank you very much for the kind words and a Very Merry Christmas to you as well. I'm mentioned it on your thread a few times, but to all those reading this that haven't read Vieux's thread you owe it to yourself to check it out. He is a mad scientist with anything from automotive repairs to building circuit boards to control a bbq grill. If I were half as knowledgeable or talented at one thing as he is at everything he touches I'd consider my life a success!
Don,
I have had a little fun in the W.H.H.H., but don't seem to get much done this time of year, well pretty much any time of year, but this time of year especially. I wish you and your family a Very Merry Christmas as well as a happy new year.
OK, so it's the Tuesday before Christmas (I hear that's cause for a holiday somewhere ). And the sun is long gone, so a few drinks have been had.
So JB, while I may not contribute here a lot, I do appreciate what you're doing (for you and for us) - and I wish you, and yours, a whole heartedly fantastic and prosperous Christmas.
I cannot describe (in manly words) what this site means to me. More power to You and yours.
Have a great Christmas, and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.
Lyndon
Nearly Fatherly Christmas . . . .
Lyndon,
Thank you for the kind words and a nice scotch sure warms the soul this time of your.
I would have to agree this site really does bring some much needed joy and distraction throughout the year, it really is a big help.I believe I've read your thread in the past but haven't kept up as much as I should, perhaps that will be my new years resolution? I also with you and yours a Very Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy new year.
All,
Not much progress this morning but I did manage to get the rear brake shoe retaining pins, springs, and keepers installed on Herb's Hearse.
Herb,
If you get a chance Friday I'd like for you to come down and have a look at the gas tank situation, call anytime.
JB
dhubbard422
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This little turn of phrase made me chuckle...
"I got a little carried away" and stripped the entire tank and decided to paint it now:
Image: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4889&pictureid=65923
There might be a mantra for GJ members in there... something like "Hi my name is ______ and it has been 2 days since I got a little carried away with a project in my garage."
Response from support group: " Welcome ______, keep up the good work!"
Keep up the good work JB!
"I got a little carried away" and stripped the entire tank and decided to paint it now:
Image: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4889&pictureid=65923
There might be a mantra for GJ members in there... something like "Hi my name is ______ and it has been 2 days since I got a little carried away with a project in my garage."
Response from support group: " Welcome ______, keep up the good work!"
Keep up the good work JB!
I got a little carried away, yep that pretty much explains it, if I really got carried away I would have acid etched the inside, coated it, blasted the outside clean, powder coated the tank, and completely rebuilt, stripped and painted the motor and compressor. I'll settle for a little carried away for now. With my recent acquisitions I'll be simply repairing equipment for a year, if I go hog wild it'll be a decade and possibly a divorce or at least a big addition to the house. LOL
JB
JB
oldironfarmer
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This little turn of phrase made me chuckle...
"I got a little carried away" and stripped the entire tank and decided to paint it now:
Image: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4889&pictureid=65923
There might be a mantra for GJ members in there... something like "Hi my name is ______ and it has been 2 days since I got a little carried away with a project in my garage."
Response from support group: " Welcome ______, keep up the good work!"
Keep up the good work JB!
1/2 Cup
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Lyndon
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JB
So lets try a new one - Merry Christmas to you and yours, in your part of the world, and I hope the "holiday season" sees you elbows deep in projects in that great big shed of yours.
Oh, and Have a Happy New Year too. . . .
Lyndon
From a day ahead, and way, way Down Here.
So lets try a new one - Merry Christmas to you and yours, in your part of the world, and I hope the "holiday season" sees you elbows deep in projects in that great big shed of yours.
Oh, and Have a Happy New Year too. . . .
Lyndon
From a day ahead, and way, way Down Here.
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Grizz1963
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Stove is all kinds of awesome.
I had thought of repainting my compressor too, then decided I preferred the old paint.
Yours looks great.
Continue to love your little JD, shyly waiting in the background.
I had thought of repainting my compressor too, then decided I preferred the old paint.
Yours looks great.
Continue to love your little JD, shyly waiting in the background.
JB, I like your style..
All the best for Christmas..
Regards
Thanks 1/2, pretty is great and I'd love for everything to be flawless, but in reality I just can't in the current shed without some major work on sealing and insulating it. Perhaps in about 70 months when the house and farm are paid off I'll be able to throw some extra money at it rather than just the leftovers.
JB
So lets try a new one - Merry Christmas to you and yours, in your part of the world, and I hope the "holiday season" sees you elbows deep in projects in that great big shed of yours.
Oh, and Have a Happy New Year too. . . .
Lyndon
From a day ahead, and way, way Down Here.
Woo Hoo, I get two Merry Christmas wishes from Lyndon, I'm honored.
I wouldn't have worried about painting it but there was just too much external surface rust. I don't know if I mentioned it or not but the reason I chose white for the compressor, which is a very odd color for a compressor, is that I had 3 cans of it in the cabinet. I warmed them up by the stove before use, one worked great and ran to empty, the next only lasted about a minute then stopped, the third didn't work at all. So I had to buy two more cans anyway, oh well you win some you loose some.
G.J.D. will get some attention soon and I'll get it out more regularly I hope anyway...
All,
My mother came to visit for a couple of days so you do as one does and entertains those close to you in life. I did a little cleaning in the W.H.H.H. this morning getting ready to set the new compressor in Tornado Alley. The hockey pucks should be in today so I can get those prepped and installed along with the repaired drain then just to wait on the new longer belts.
JB
dhubbard422
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JB,
I worry that my attempt at humor failed, if so, please accept my apologies. I always look forward to your posts and I have been amazed by the amount of progress on and in your shop, including the work on your compressor.
Don
oldironfarmer
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Your attempt at humor left me speechless, hence just smilies.
Very well done!
JB just gave you a cool answer, he wasn't offended.
Merry Christmas!!
Don,
You in no way offended me and I thought it was hilarious. I meant my response as humor as well not criticism, I got a little carried away, carried away would have been all of those things listed above. Now I don't feel there is anything wrong with getting carried away on any and all projects I just can't do that on all of my projects even if I would love to. You are one of the many that is top notch on this site and I look forward to the comments at all times.
Yep Andy caught it, tone and sometimes meaning is difficult at best to convey with type, and being a lowly engineer it is worse for me than most.
All,
Good news is the hockey pucks for the compressors and other equipment showed up yesterday. I bought 25 of them for $19 on the bay, I should have done this a long time ago. I did say good news, so that must mean there is bad news, well not really... I didn't get anything done this morning or last night with my mother in town we spent most of the time catching up and joking around. The other side of the "bad news" is that my youngest daughter found the hockey pucks while I was distracted, she decided to decorate them for me:
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Yep much better now, that is Daddy's little helper! Not going to apologize for the lack of progress, I had too much fun to do that.
JB
Every time I read about someone buying hockey pucks online, I always think "Why didn't you just go to the store and buy them?" and then I remember that not everyone has local access to them (there is a hockey shop less than 2 miles away from my house, and probably a dozen or so sporting goods stores around the metro that probably have them). If you haven't already researched it (which, being an engineer, I'm sure you have) Forstner bits seem to be the favorite for drilling holes in them.
Have a merry Christmas!
BDBecker,
Yeah no such luck here, the local Hibbit sports MAY have them, and same for Wally World, but I just assumed they would be more expensive. For me shopping online for them took 5 minutes tops whereas a special trip to the store even on my way home would take more time. I have enough other stuff to do while waiting for delivery I wasn't worried about a few extra days. I guess just call me lazy is what I'm trying to say, but I'm okay with that.
That is something I actually don't have, I may need to try to buy some though, I wonder what stores in town have them... LOL. I've been meaning to buy a set and they would have been the obvious choice for this task, I will chuck them up in the lathe and try that first with some standard twist bits or even the paddle bits.
Let me know if that is a terrible idea. Sadly I haven't researched that at all, just to lazy or was that busy?JB
I totally hear you. I used to do most of my shopping online when I lived in SD. The nearest town with any decent stores was 45 minutes away. Actually, when Wife and I were dating, she lived 62 miles away and I used to make that trip a couple times a week. There is definitely a different perspective to travel time and distance when you live in a rural area.
...I will chuck them up in the lathe and try that first with some standard twist bits or even the paddle bits.
I've never actually done it, I've just read about it - how's that for a typical engineer response? I've heard of guys freezing them before trying to drill them with standard bits. Using Forstner bits will let you do a countersunk hole though.
Well for "pucks" sake can't a guy just buy some equipment without all this bull hockey? I mean what the H E double hockey sticks does a guy have to do around here to make everyone happy?
I'm just kidding of course, good questions actually. As you all know the shop floods really bad in heavy rains, we have also seen 0°F (32°F below freezing if that helps my friends to the north, down under, and everywhere else that uses the metric system. Which I think is everyone but us in the US.
) temps lately, although small I plan to start a jr. hockey league in the W.H.H.H. Okay seriously now for a minute
I thought about just buying 10 of them but decided for just a few dollars more I could get all I'd ever want. I plan to put them on both compressors, 7 total, the surge tank, 4 total, and will find uses for the others over time I'm sure. This way next time I want some I can just say "Now where the puck did I put those?".
JB
Oops missed your reply, I like the freezing idea, I'll leave them in the W.H.H.H. tonight and let them freeze before trying to drill them tomorrow. Woo Hoo that was easy.
Yep even for those in large cities where the store they need to go to could be 45 minutes out of the way even if it is only 10 miles. LOL
JB
NedNorton
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JB,
Thanks for taking us along this year. It's always good to read up on the projects at the WHH.
From one "over-doer" to another...
Jen and I wish you the best to you and the family for a wonderful holiday and terrific New Year! Bring on 2017.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks for taking us along this year. It's always good to read up on the projects at the WHH.
From one "over-doer" to another...
Jen and I wish you the best to you and the family for a wonderful holiday and terrific New Year! Bring on 2017.
Cheers,
Chris
mefast
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JB, well done on all of your accomplishments and adventures this year. Wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a great start to 2017.
-Foster
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