05CarbonDRZ
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Could not agree more on the Pry Bar's,I love my hard handle striking set.Feel good in your hand and transmit ton's of force through the handle to the head.
Things you would NEVER buy from Snap-On?
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Heavy Metal Doctor
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okay, so it's not just me
my IM6500 Hp has far outlasted the 3 IR guns I bought previuosly when I thought the extra expsense of SO wasn't worth it......
GoBlue
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Condoms...a Snap On condom sounds very painfull
Not as painful as when you find out you got baby coming.
Now I'm confused. Are you saying you like the Snap On Striking bars, or someone elses?
Reality Sucks
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i second that, i have a 60 gallon at my shop now.. only 30 hrs on it, already had to replace head gaskets twice, and now i believe the damn ring is leaking wont build up past 30psi without blowing air from compressor head, and this was sent back and rebuilt through snap-on there work not mine..
rsanter
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anything that someone else makes that you can buy the exact same thing under a different name
measuring instruments
lacks
compressors
blast cabinets
socket rails (hansens)
etc
bob
measuring instruments
lacks
compressors
blast cabinets
socket rails (hansens)
etc
bob
american lockpicker
Banned
Anything made in China and the new screwdrivers.
I got the Craftsman professional 5 bar set and have been really pleased with them. I think i paid around 50 bux for them.
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_10...eyword=pry+bar&prdNo=9&blockNo=9&blockType=L9
earlthegoat2
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Yeah, they like the Snap Ons. I dont have experience with the striking bars so I cannot comment there but I still would not buy their standard pry bars. It is just a steel bar.
Some more to add to the list:
Picks
Hooks
Awls
Impact sockets
Nearly anything 1/4" drive. (I agree that they are nice though. It seems to be very overpriced for what it is though. It seems with Snap On, the smaller something is the more it costs for what you get.)
Files
Air Blower
Breaker Bars
Creepers
Stools
Basic Allen key wrenches
Flashlight
Safety Glasses
Locking Pliers
Hacksaw
Any woodworking tool
NJHandyGuy
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picks breakerbars and locking pliers come on give me a break snap on ules oin 2 oyut of the three
earlthegoat2
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It took me a second to decipher what this was but you do have an argument there for the breaker bars and locking pliers. Since I dont use a breaker bar often there is not much point to pony up for one and I still think ViseGrips make the best locking pliers. Plus SO only has Blue Point locking pliers presently and those other screwy ones.
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I don't want to start trouble with specifics, but I must say I'm surprised at some of these comments -- Stuff from SO core lines of tools that I use everyday and am quite satisfied with..... I can understand not being able to justify the cost as reason to not buy it - I would not buy SO for home use, but I have stuff you guys have listed as "junk" that have been in use nearly every workday for the last 15 years. Maybe I'm haven't been shown what makes the other stuff so much betteror I'm just not that good
Yeah, like I said above, my biggest problem with snap on stuff is the price. I am a DIYer, and do not make a living with my tools. Although, I do use my tools at home VERY frequently, on a variety of projects and repairs. I can't really comment on snap on's quality because I only own a few snap on tools, all of which were given to me. With only a pair of snap on pliers, a few screw drivers, and a few sockets, I'm hardly the person to ask. From my amateur perspective, they're virtually cost prohibitive.
I think I've got a very complete and extensive set of hand tools. It's not very often that I'm working on something and wishing that I had a specific hand tool for the job. Over the past 30 years, I've tried to buy the best stuff I could afford, and I've spent a considerable amount of money doing so. Still, the one thing that I've ALWAYS been amazed at was how much snap on tools cost. Even if I were a professional mechanic, I'm not sure I could justify paying that much for snap on stuff. I really don't know how you guys do it. How do you guys manage to make any money when the cost of tools is so high? I really gotta hand it to you!! Being a pro mechanic is an expensive proposition.
LawnDart79
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I would venture to guess that most people would disagree with this one.
Christ, from what I read on here, there are most likely guys who sit around and ******** while staring at their dual 80.
SpiderGearsMan
Banned
snap on prices are truly insane
and ebay provides little relief
and ebay provides little relief
Charles (in GA)
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Prybars are made by Mayhew, and I have a set of Craftsman (also made by Mayhew, at home) and a SO set at work and cannot tell the difference, as they are the same bar with different handles/grips.
Again, no sense buying anything that is made for SO and not made by SO (generally). I do have a set of SO jack stands. They are heavier steel that anything else I could find, so apparently they are made for SO in China, but to SO specs, so there IS a difference sometimes in the products they do not manufacture in house, but generally, no, don't bother with re-branded stuff.
Charles
SpiderGearsMan
Banned
the jack stands were lincoln
cdncowboy
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Although the SO stuff is really nice, I cannot justify the cost, at least not now. I have a lot of high quality tools that do the job at a fraction of the cost, and come with a lifetime warranty. Why spend more? I may for the hell of it end up getting one of their soft handled ratchets, but it would be for the tool **** aspect of it rather than anything else. I'm working on an auto tech apprenticeship and have been using SK, Snap On, Matco, MAC, etc, and really don't see anything too special... and I have seen loads of broken sockets from these companies as well so it's not like they are immune to wear and tear. Further to that, it is difficult to get replacements for the broken junk most of the time as well. So that end of their value proposition is shot to hell. As much as I would rather get new American or first world country tooling and equipment, the prices that they demand are a bit much for what they really offer. Taiwan is making some pretty decent stuff these days, sad to say, and at a fraction of the price.
garfunkle24
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With an industrial account, quite a bit of the re-branded stuff is actually cheaper than under the OEM's (or other's) name.
Snap on picks are The best in the business if you rely on them daily, I've been using them for 15+ years and still have my original set. (along with a couple of the new ones lol) The amount of pry you can get is unbelievable... Now if you just have to remove the occasional oring you can get by with a cheaper sets, but they don't even compare to snap on's.
I would venture to guess that most people would disagree with this one.
Christ, from what I read on here, there are most likely guys who sit around and ******** while staring at their dual 80.
Could it be because they spend all their money on the dual 80 and have nothing left for the strip joint?
I agree on the rebadged adjustables. I understand your thinking on the stubbies. It's not likely cheap ones could be broken by hand. However I've also used them as backup wrenches and they see some serious force there.
I generally go with truck brands for hardline tools. Rebranded stuff can usually be found cheaper elsewhere though Snap on often has the best shipped price on small stuff. Or if you're buying off the truck it's sometimes cheaper to pay the premium rather than waste time and gas, or paying shipping, just to "save" money on a tool.
The other consideration with rebrands is whether the truck branding offers better and/or easier warranty compared to the OEM. It also provides some degree of protection against the OEM disappearing such as with Matco branded Bonney.
Regards the Blue Point hardline it's actually reasonably priced. Was a thread a couple weeks back where someone posted the price of an individual socket from Lowes. The Blue Point version was nearly 1/3 cheaper
KraftwerkMk1Jetta
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Snap On ratchets are the best ratchets out there. Period.
While Id agree Snap on Makes a Damn fine Ratchet, The "Best" Claim is based on many different aspects that is gonna vary from Person to Person.
wheats71
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there is very little that i wouldnt buy from them
i started out with craftsman and the like did a great job for 98% of the jobs i did and i was of the belief that snappy was way over priced also
but once i got a flank drive plus wrench in my hand and it would fit in the 1 or 2% of the spots my mastercraft pro series wouldnt i was hooked
now 50k later
my prybars are the older none stricking style they have been beat with a 4 pound sledge
never had an issue
if you use the tools to make a living you understand
i started out with craftsman and the like did a great job for 98% of the jobs i did and i was of the belief that snappy was way over priced also
but once i got a flank drive plus wrench in my hand and it would fit in the 1 or 2% of the spots my mastercraft pro series wouldnt i was hooked
now 50k later
my prybars are the older none stricking style they have been beat with a 4 pound sledge
never had an issue
if you use the tools to make a living you understand
05CarbonDRZ
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I was saying I like the Snap-On hard handled striking Pry Bars.
Just wanted to say thanks for that. Seems they're made by Mayhew (as per a later post) just like Snap-On. I've been looking for a set for a while, and can't beat $60 from Craftsman. Thanks!!
Ive spoke with a couple Snap on Dealers and this whole Mayhew is the Oem for Snap On has yet to be Proven. Now.. Before the claims that Snap on is only protecting there share of the Market i also sent a email to Mayhew (No Response) so i decided to Call Customer service and was transferred to a Higher up and the Gentleman i spoke with told me that to HIS knowledge Mayhew did not Produce tools for Snap On. I believe Mayhew produces some Great tools but im not buying the "Oem" for Snap on without some proof.
That's pretty interesting. Does Snap-On easily disclose their re-branded counterparts? I know they disclose COO and whatnot, but will they willingly say who makes their stuff (if it's not made in Kenosha?).
Not to My Knowledge, I know personally Chadster (Snap on Dealer) has in the Past been very upfront in regards to Rebranded stuff. I believe if im not mistaken Chadster actually stocks IRwin Tap and Die sets because they are the Oem for Snap on. Im pretty sure the knowledge that is represented here at GJ can just about list every rebranded item snap on sells but i have yet to see any Proof in regards to Prybars, Punches etc.. When i look at Snap on's Description for the punches, Prybars and i read Snap on Patented info it also leads me to believe they are the OEM and Not Mayhew.
Good to know, and thank you, I really appreciate it. This site is an amazing wealth of knowledge and I absolutely LOVE IT.
I think for my purposes (not wrenching for a living) the Craftsman Pros will be fine; Mayhew, Snap-On, or otherwise.
earlthegoat2
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These are one thing I have of SO exclusively.
There are a lot of people that work on cars but not as mechanics in a dealership. If I worked in a dealership I'd probably have less snap on due to cost than I have now. Even if youre getting a rebranded tool, you're virtually guaranteed it will be a good tool if it came from the so truck.
thrifty bill
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Anything new. Used or I can't afford it.
Wrong truck... You're looking for "Slip Off".
I would avoid the "Snap-Off" truck.
1) Ratchets
2) Anything else
Haven't found anything that snap-on makes that can't be had cheaper and better somewhere else. Plus, being able to warranty a tool over the counter is better than having to mail it or wait for a truck that never comes.
2) Anything else
Haven't found anything that snap-on makes that can't be had cheaper and better somewhere else. Plus, being able to warranty a tool over the counter is better than having to mail it or wait for a truck that never comes.