Judging what is a flame and what is an honest opinion is highly subjective although some are flagrant. One man's flame is another's tool gospel. I'm new to GJ and glad I found it. It's not hard to separate the wheat from the chaf from my vantage point. I just let those flagrant posts go by like water off a duck's back and all is well. I've already noticed a couple of members I really like to see post because you can tell they judge a tool on what they believe it's merits are, not through brand-loyalty goggles. I find those kinds of opinions valuable when evaluating tools.I agree. I spend less and less time here. I think this forum has officially past it's prime.
I really don't care what people think about the tools I choose to buy but it still gets old to see it day after day here. Be nice if they made a section for each tool brand or at least a SO section and HF section and strictly enforced flaming either one.
I agree, snappy adjustables are worth, I have several, and I do use other brands, but snappy is my fav.
That's pretty much the way I feel. Although I'm always open to the idea of getting a STEAL (as in 35%-40% of retail) on their ratchets. The 80's are GREAT, just not anywhere near worth the fortune that they cost.Anything they offer that's simply re-branded for them. But in general I wouldn't buy anything from SO that wasn't a specific specialty tool I couldn't get elsewhere. That was my philosophy, even when I was wrenching for a living.
I am very aware of this, but 10-15 years ago there was also a lot more usa made tools and companys such as craftsman were still make quality product. This is just my opinion if you love snap on and have the cash buy it i see nothing wrong with that. I didn't say that i only use snap on but won't buy new, if i happen to see a good deal on snap on i will buy it because i know it's quality. But most of the time i would personally rather have something a bit more economical with a good warranty, if it breaks i replace it i normally have back ups so it isn't a big deal to wait for a replacement. I hope i don't come off as rude i'm just trying to explain my thinking and opinion.after reading through this thread, i noticed a few postings mentioned
"nothing new from SO"
in todays "tool world" filled with CL, ebay, forums, and many many online tool distributors it's fairly easy to pick up nearly anything off the web, at (probably) a lower price.
wasnt that way not so long ago,
i'm talking 10-15 short years ago.
want some shiney new truck brand tools?
wait till the truck comes by and buy as much as you want
good luck finding NOS or barely used truck branded tools at swapmeets & flea mkts.
right now the tool market is flooded with "new" tools bought by a kid that dropped out of tech school, guys laid off when dealerships closed, and old timers, or thier widow selling off a lifetimes worth of tools.
just my seemingly logical $0.02
can't be that big of a ******* ..............
I know the post are old but if you read this I can tell you the screwdrives are complete garbage. One of mine broke and the shaft was not real steel it was porous some kind of cheap cast. I am 62 and have been active using tool all of my life and this is the first screwdriver ever that has broken and it was a Snap On/ Snap OFF piece of junk it never even bent one bit just snapped off.I am not even wasting my time calling. I own lots of tools and Craftsman are far better than this junk by far. I only own a handful of Snap On. I have Craftsman SK,Armstrong ,Mac and this over priced junk. I can honestly say I will not be buying anymore Snap Off products. Snap On is just like any other products they put there name on all kinds of junk they don"t even make. The products are not all made in the US either.
I have the Bahco version of these, in a few sizes. I also have the thin jawed version of a couple sizes.
I have a set of Snap On screw drivers. They are my "daily use tools". They are hanging on he pegboard over my bench. If I need a screw driver they are my first choice. I bought them in the mid 80's.
