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scott_one

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I have a sub panel in my garage coming from the main in the basement with 8-3 Non-Metallic sheathed cable from a 40 amp double pole breaker.

But, out in the garage, the hot tub is wired in the box with a 50 amp breaker. Is this alright? Doesn't seem like you should have a higher amp breaker than the one it is connected to in the house. If not, what should or could be done? Can I replace the 40 amp in the basement to a 50 amp with the 8-3 wire? Can this be done? Any other suggestions?
 

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mrb

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you have bigger problems than that. the breaker in the middle pic looks discolored like its overheating from being overloaded. The subpanel has grounds landed on the neutral bar, i cant tell if its bonded to the can or not. You need to get an electrician over there to clean this up. you cannot put the 8/3 on a larger breaker. What else does the subpanel supply?
 

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So it trips on the house panel before it trips on the sub panel, as long as it trips your good to go.

My hot tob panel is all GFI Breakers. While i am generally not a huge fan of GFI on a hot tub i wouldn't be without one .
 
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scott_one

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you have bigger problems than that. the breaker in the middle pic looks discolored like its overheating from being overloaded. The subpanel has grounds landed on the neutral bar, i cant tell if its bonded to the can or not. You need to get an electrician over there to clean this up. you cannot put the 8/3 on a larger breaker. What else does the subpanel supply?

It supplies the lights and electrical outlets, the garage door opener and an outlet for a stove on a 30 amp double pole breaker (and also the hot tub).
By bonded to the can, do you mean attached? It sits in the plastic, I can't see that it is attached to the box at all.
 
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So it trips on the house panel before it trips on the sub panel, as long as it trips your good to go.

My hot tob panel is all GFI Breakers. While i am generally not a huge fan of GFI on a hot tub i wouldn't be without one .

Grumpy, are these the GFI Breakers? They are in a subpanel out back by the hottub.
 

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that subpanel is overloaded. get an electrician over there to fix everything
 
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