Thread sealant question

[NUTTSGT]

I'm trying to extend my airlines in the addition. Like the rest of the garage, 1/2" black pipe. I was out of the Oatey stuff I used before. The only thing I could find was at Ace Hardware.

When I opened the bottle, it had liquid on the top. I stirred for like 5 minutes, trying to mix it completely.

It you look at the second attached pic, this stuff is runny, like cold syrup out of the fridge. No real thickness to it. I tried it out threading on a tee. It acted like nothing was there.

Should I use it ? Would you use it or go buy something else ?

 

[LXCam]

I'd buy something else. What no teflon tape laying around anywhere. Who doesn't have at least one roll missing the cover and one side busted off in some oddball drawer?.

 

[rlitman]

I think I'd look elsewhere too. I prefer thread sealants that are thick. Play Dough consistency is still fine, but watery, not so much.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I'd buy something else. What no teflon tape laying around anywhere. Who doesn't have at least one roll missing the cover and one side busted off in some oddball drawer?.

I have teflon tape but I had some leaks when I first did the air line with tape. I wanted to use some similar to what I used before.

This was the only stuff in town. Worst thing is, the 10" pipe wrench, Master Mechanic brand from Ace, came apart as I was breaking apart the old lines. I only used the thing a couple of times to boot.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I think I'd look elsewhere too. I prefer thread sealants that are thick. Play Dough consistency is still fine, but watery, not so much.

I didn't want to get it all together and then have to take it back apart sing this stuff. Looking online, Lowe's has the Oatey stuff I used before.

 

[LXCam]

Worst thing is, the 10" pipe wrench, Master Mechanic brand from Ace, came apart as I was breaking apart the old lines. I only used the thing a couple of times to boot.

Youre more then welcome to borrow mine E






You won’t need no stinking tape once you’re done wrenching on it.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Youre more then welcome to borrow mine E






You won’t need no stinking tape once you’re done wrenching on it.

Thanks but freight might kill the deal.

Step-dad has a 36" or 48" one from his years as an electrician if I need a large one. I might grab another 10" one when I grab a bottle of sealant later.

 

[tarmy]

Thanks but freight might kill the deal.

Step-dad has a 36" or 48" one from his years as an electrician if I need a large one. I might grab another 10" one when I grab a bottle of sealant later.

10” is not very big...might want to get a larger version so you can have a variety.

I have many Rigid pipe wrenches and have found that a 12 and 15 are my go to size used.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

That stuff looks more like anti seize. When I do anything that requires thread sealant I use the Permatex Thread Sealant in a tube it’s white with PTFE.


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[NUTTSGT]

10” is not very big...might want to get a larger version so you can have a variety.

I have many Rigid pipe wrenches and have found that a 12 and 15 are my go to size used.

I have a few. I was using the 10 because it allowed me to get close the existing airline about 3/4" off the garage wall. I finished taking it apart with an offset headed pipewrench.

 

[NUTTSGT]

That stuff looks more like anti seize. When I do anything that requires thread sealant I use the Permatex Thread Sealant in a tube it’s white with PTFE.


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Anti-seize has more consistency than this stuff.

 

[aussieblake]

I was on a construction site years ago, and a sprinkler fitter was using both tape and pipe thread compound on each set of threads. He said it was his best option to avoid leaks. So you might try both tape and pipe thread compound if you don't have an option for a different type of pipe thread compound. Just a suggestion.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I considered both but I'm pretty sure I will not be using what I have in the pictures

 

[LJZ]

Everyone should have a tube of loctite 567. I know that does not help you now but do yourself a favor and grab one for future use. Good luck bruddah.

 

[pb014]

Is that a 48"?

 

[NUTTSGT]

Made the 23 mile trip to Lowe's

 

[gizardlizard]

Agree with the loctite 567 PST. awesome stuff. Not cheap, but awesome.

 

[TractorJeff]

Is that a 48"?

I blew up the picture.
YEP! Its a 48!
WOW!
In RIGID, I only go up to 36!
After that, its pipe tongs or a chain wrench!

 

[nadogail]

I have enjoyed good luck with Rector Seal.

 

[PFSard]

Worst thing is, the 10" pipe wrench, Master Mechanic brand from Ace, came apart as I was breaking apart the old lines. I only used the thing a couple of times to boot.

After seeing the experience you've had with Ace products, I'll be rushing down there to buy a few things. LOL

And I wouldn't use that liquid ****. I have an aversion to doing a job more than once. Good luck with the Oatey.

 

[landlord30]

Agree above with a good paste first and then tape on top. No issues.

 

[Renegade1LI]

I have enjoyed good luck with Rector Seal.

Agree rector seal 5, thousands of leak free joints, but the oatey is fine for small piping.

 

[Renegade1LI]

I have enjoyed good luck with Rector Seal.

Agree rector seal 5, thousands of leak free joints, but the oatey is fine for small piping.More issues with bad threads.

 

[toyotadriver]

I always put teflon tape on the threads first and then put pipe dope on top...usually Rectorseal but have also used the Oatley. I've never had a leak when I have used both. I have had leaks with just one or the other.

 

[73eldo]

I have used them all and nothing comes close to Loctite 545 Hydraulic/Pneumatic Thread Sealent


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[NUTTSGT]

After seeing the experience you've had with Ace products, I'll be rushing down there to buy a few things. LOL

And I wouldn't use that liquid ****. I have an aversion to doing a job more than once. Good luck with the Oatey.

I've been less and less impressed with ACE Hardware. They were expensive before and since they got sold 2 years ago, I believe the prices went up again. The previous owner had an awesome drill bit selection, now. . ..

I can either make the 15 mile round trip to town (other side of town) and hope they have it or just make the trip to HD, Lowe's or Menard's and I know one of them will have what I need.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Yeah, it's small piping, 1/2" black iron pipe.


I have nothing against the Rectorseal but I had good luck with the Oatey in the past. I just thought I had a can when I started getting stuff for the airline addition but couldn't find it with the rest of my plumbing stuff. I was going to start the airline last week but got side tracked. . . much like today.

Spring and tab came out of the 10" pipe wrench and spent 20 minutes trying to put it back together. Realized it has a limited lifetime warranty so it's going back.

Then the pipe sealant as I got progress going again. . .. . created thread. . .

Stopped at DQ to grab a burger and Blizzard for supper on way home. They totally screwed up the order. . . in front of me, mine and the one behind me. I left hangry. Some days, you have plans and they just don't pan out. I know there's an OT slot tomorrow and it shouldn't get to me but. . . .

 

[rangerfredbob]

The Loctite stuff is fantabulous, a little dab will do ya, most people use too much, about 3 dabs on the second thread for 1/4" pipe, probably 4 for 3/8" and so forth is all ya need

 

[Firebrick43]

I've been less and less impressed with ACE Hardware. They were expensive before and since they got sold 2 years ago, I believe the prices went up again. The previous owner had an awesome drill bit selection, now. . ..

I can either make the 15 mile round trip to town (other side of town) and hope they have it or just make the trip to HD, Lowe's or Menard's and I know one of them will have what I need.

I agree on ace. Really down hill in the past year or two. The other day I picked up some JD green paint. No where close to being correct.

 

[Retroman]

I prefer Blue Monster thread sealant. When I was in the field I cored thousands of holes for sprinkler fitters it was always pipe dope then Teflon tape.

 

[Jeepster04]

Anyone know the actual purpose of teflon tape or sealant on NPT threads? Is it just a lubricant or does it actually help seal the threads?

 

[rlitman]

Anyone know the actual purpose of teflon tape or sealant on NPT threads? Is it just a lubricant or does it actually help seal the threads?

Both. The teflon lubricates the fit so that it can be fully tightened, and much of the rest of the material packs the helical leak path formed by NPT threads.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Glad you got something better.


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