Tile experts help needed please

[zagamuffin]

Hi all,

Have a 20"x30" double garage with a chemical proof two pack epoxy floor surface at present,it's down 12 years and have started upgrading the space since I started reading this forum.

I was interested n VCR tile or the other solutions but being located in Ireland shipping is an extra expense as no national suppliers.

I have now decided to research a ceramic tile option and need a little real person feedback on specs for a garage that has trolley jacks,axel stands and eng/gearbox changes and dropping tools etc...lol

Cheers in advance

 

[SapesOfIndia]

Search for the keyword Porcelain on this forum. Ton of examples and feedback including my project in the link below.

 

[85camaro]

Avoid ceramic and porcelain tiles. They are not meant to stand up to the rigors of trolley jacks, dropped tools etc. Furthermore, the thin set mortar will not adhere to epoxy. The epoxy would need to be grinded off before installing ceramic/porcelain.

Another thing, if the garage isn't climate controlled, you will have constant movement which will wreak havoc on the tile. You have to use special blends of mortar and additives in which most people (including professionals) don't know about, or don't know how to do it correctly.

 

[Angelfire]

I plan on porcelain myself as its been shown to be more than you enough to handle jack stands, dropped tools, etc. and regarding climate control, I wouldn't worry about that too much as Ireland is pretty temperate...doesn't get too hot or too cold.

I'll have to wait on doing my floor until I return from a year long overseas. I hit Dublin in 2 months!

 

[RCStocker]

Unless you are making a show room or have more money than brains then don't tile the floor. If you do you need the quality of subway tile. It is like steel but so is the price. Italian tile or other tile will not hold up to rubber bands.

 

[zagamuffin]

Search for the keyword Porcelain on this forum. Ton of examples and feedback including my project in the link below.

Soi , will do cheers

 

[zagamuffin]

Avoid ceramic and porcelain tiles. They are not meant to stand up to the rigors of trolley jacks, dropped tools etc. Furthermore, the thin set mortar will not adhere to epoxy. The epoxy would need to be grinded off before installing ceramic/porcelain.

Another thing, if the garage isn't climate controlled, you will have constant movement which will wreak havoc on the tile. You have to use special blends of mortar and additives in which most people (including professionals) don't know about, or don't know how to do it correctly.

85 , Tks for the info

 

[zagamuffin]

I plan on porcelain myself as its been shown to be more than you enough to handle jack stands, dropped tools, etc. and regarding climate control, I wouldn't worry about that too much as Ireland is pretty temperate...doesn't get too hot or too cold.

I'll have to wait on doing my floor until I return from a year long overseas. I hit Dublin in 2 months!

Angel

Heard you could get high load rated tiles for this purpose so ill research away.you traveling the world ??

 

[zagamuffin]

Unless you are making a show room or have more money than brains then don't tile the floor. If you do you need the quality of subway tile. It is like steel but so is the price. Italian tile or other tile will not hold up to rubber bands.

Rc

I believe it would be cheaper than importing vct or doing a nice flake floor and its my own personal space, don't have a fortune to spend but will wait till I have the dosh to do it right first time

 

[SapesOfIndia]

See this thread titled "So Can Your Floor Do This and Not Have Any Damage?"
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95966

 

[Dakota00]

Unless you are making a show room or have more money than brains then don't tile the floor. If you do you need the quality of subway tile. It is like steel but so is the price. Italian tile or other tile will not hold up to rubber bands.

Perfect example of someone who doesn't have a clue of what they are talking about!!!

Please educate yourself first, before making comments that are NOT true!

 

[Jack Olsen]

Avoid ceramic and porcelain tiles. They are not meant to stand up to the rigors of trolley jacks, dropped tools etc.

Unless you are making a show room or have more money than brains then don't tile the floor. If you do you need the quality of subway tile. It is like steel but so is the price. Italian tile or other tile will not hold up to rubber bands.

I've had tile in my garage for over five years now. It's cheap ceramic tile, and it's held up great. My place sees a lot of automotive work -- including rolling engines across the tile when they're perched on a floor jack. I also do metal fabrication and carpentry in the place.

Porcelain is even more durable than ceramic, but I have no complaints at all about my floor. It's one of the best decisions I made for my little garage.

I've posted it before, but here's a video of a four-pound sledge hitting the tiles hard enough to make the camera jump.

The way the tile is installed is going to make a huge difference with its strength. I made sure there were no voids under my tiles, but I used Home Depot's most-basic thinset and grout.

There is no problem with jacks or jackstands.

Or engines:

I put the same tiles on the top table section of my lift.

It lifts a car just fine -- the jacking points sit right on the tiles.

 

[bdamico]

Avoid ceramic and porcelain tiles. They are not meant to stand up to the rigors of trolley jacks, dropped tools etc. Furthermore, the thin set mortar will not adhere to epoxy. The epoxy would need to be grinded off before installing ceramic/porcelain.

Another thing, if the garage isn't climate controlled, you will have constant movement which will wreak havoc on the tile. You have to use special blends of mortar and additives in which most people (including professionals) don't know about, or don't know how to do it correctly.

hmmm. whatever you say boss.

 

[bdamico]

85 , Tks for the info

this isn't good info. don't listen

 

[BRIANBB]

Jack we all know that is just an inflateable Porsche on that lift!!!!

 

[cbracer]

"Italian tile won't hold up to rubber bands" ? really, then why is the Penske shop in NC all Italian tile? wow, people can always surprise me.

 

[Angelfire]

Angel

Heard you could get high load rated tiles for this purpose so ill research away.you traveling the world ??

Will do some travelling but in actuality, am taking an assignment for my employer. Worked there a while back for 3 1/2 years and headed back for at least another one. Based in Leixlip but not sure where I'll be living just yet.

 

[slickgt1]

Avoid ceramic and porcelain tiles. They are not meant to stand up to the rigors of trolley jacks, dropped tools etc. Furthermore, the thin set mortar will not adhere to epoxy. The epoxy would need to be grinded off before installing ceramic/porcelain.

Another thing, if the garage isn't climate controlled, you will have constant movement which will wreak havoc on the tile. You have to use special blends of mortar and additives in which most people (including professionals) don't know about, or don't know how to do it correctly.

Bwahahahaahah. NO. Stop, Drop, and click some links in my cig.

 

[BRIANBB]

Another thing, if the garage isn't climate controlled, you will have constant movement which will wreak havoc on the tile. You have to use special blends of mortar and additives in which most people (including professionals) don't know about, or don't know how to do it correctly.

I always wondered why homes that did not have air conditioning never had ceramic tile!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, C'Mon!!

 

[zagamuffin]

Prob more confusing info than good...lol

Must read all the build threads...