And from what I’ve learned from another GJ thread: probably sold by Hazet at twice Allit’s price, because it’s now got a Hazet logo.
Tools from the old world
- Thread starter Monte
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From memory -the difference in price between the 75Kg and 200Kg drawer slides isn't that great. I figured that although I'll never load the drawers anywhere close to 200Kg, I'll also never have to worry about wearing out the slides.
The empty weight was a little North of 500lbs I think. It's a beast to shift alone (not having installed casters), even with the drawers out.
Dave455
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Saltus 1/4" ratchets and metric hex bits
Made in Solingen Germany
Very nice!
Saltus make a very limited range, but the items they do make are all nice! Good quality, reasonably price, and (unusually for a German manufacturer) a polished chrome finish! Definitely an under rated manufacturer!
I noticed some earlier posts discussing the difficulty of finding a european manufacturer of Ratcheting Combination Wrenches! Well, you could try the Saltus!
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Miskin
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Those look good
Edit - Holy fack they're expensive though!
yeah not that cheap....
maybe these will work too...retail will be around €20.- iirc:
http://www.bollmanngrip.de/en/innovation
more info from the OEM on page 15: http://www.allit.de/fileadmin/allit_ag/pdf/GF_Ordnung/01_Katalog_DIY_2012_McPlus_WEB_DE.pdf
if you can live with the color....:
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B000QCVPHE/
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Allit-Zimmer...erker_Werkstattausrüstung&hash=item43c5daa649
nice design !
Carolus Bit Accu
Yes absolutely, they look identical. Attached page from Alti catalogue shows logo options too, and the dimensions are identical: 215x396x294mm
-Z- said:
Actually 3 times on amazon. 5.25 cf 12.50 to 15.76
Which thread?
I paid 11.45 eur . A trivial cost in the greater scheme of things, and buying from the other side of the weld.
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CV90
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Hitachi DS14DL cordless drill. A slightly older model but the price was right so couldn't resist. COO Japan.
This is hands down the scariest tool I own. I always try to use a 125mm angle grinder whenever I can, but sometimes bigger is better. Hitachi G23SEY 230mm angle grinder. COO Ireland.
This is hands down the scariest tool I own. I always try to use a 125mm angle grinder whenever I can, but sometimes bigger is better. Hitachi G23SEY 230mm angle grinder. COO Ireland.
gti
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cosmik binturong
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"Dexter" is the house brand for handtools of Adeo Group(Leroy-Merlin/Weldom/Aki/Bricoman/etc.). when they started the brand most of the tools were mostly of good quality(like their rebranded Wiha screwdrivers) then they moved to PRC production and, well, the quality sunk as fast as the Titanic...
if you can find some of the old line, you'll see the difference...
ps. welcome here gti, hope you'll find some cool Portugal-made tools to show us and enjoy the thread!
pps. remember, it's *all* Monte's fault, eh!
gti
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Welcome to GJ gti.Thanks for the pics. Any idea of the quality of the Dexter tools?
Thank you! If i have time tomorrow i will post individual pictures of the tools.
I would say medium, medium/low, depending on the tools we are talking about. The ratchets are pretty strong, i have a 1/4" and a 3/8".
But for the price i got them i could ask for more, in a house environment, they are excellent in everything.
"Dexter" is the house brand for handtools of Adeo Group(Leroy-Merlin/Weldom/Aki/Bricoman/etc.). when they started the brand most of the tools were mostly of good quality(like their rebranded Wiha screwdrivers) then they moved to PRC production and, well, the quality sunk as fast as the Titanic...
if you can find some of the old line, you'll see the difference...
ps. welcome here gti, hope you'll find some cool Portugal-made tools to show us and enjoy the thread!
pps. remember, it's *all* Monte's fault, eh!
Thank you too! Portugal had a great industry but, unfortunately, it's all pretty much dead
We even made cars!
UMM Alter 3 and Sado 550 (sorry about the off-topic)
I knew about the old Dexter line vs the new one, and i know these are worst. Here in Portugal, stores pretty much only sell Stanley, Dexter, and even lower quality Chinese tools, those are really abundant and almost everyone uses them.
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cosmik binturong
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why not the Bessey/Erdi ones:
or, if you like your tin snips old-school, the beautiful, english made, Footprints:
you can go to NWS' site too if you need more toolpr0n...
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sweet !!! More pics please
welcome to the forum !
Higher priced "Erdi"/Bessey models are still made here, NWS is made in Germany, Padre and i think Winkelgreif too.
http://www.turnus.de/index.cfm?l_menu_ID=2&v_page=pages/produkte/produkte.cfm&v_title=
http://bessey.de/en/category.php?ASIMOID_MC=000000000002da3e00020023
http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/sheet-metal-forming-tools/lever-tin-snips.html
www.padre.de
there are other options like http://betakut.it/ from italy
Do you know any manufacturers of tools besides files and saws ?
Tools in action:
small trolley jack
large trolley jack
impact action
best way to remove rubber bushings: ??
....at least thats what the instruction manual recommends:
(the shop press and a screwdriver worked better though...)
some wire wheelin`
proper brake piston tool
misc.
gti
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sweet !!! More pics please
welcome to the forum !
Higher priced "Erdi"/Bessey models are still made here, NWS is made in Germany, Padre and i think Winkelgreif too.
http://www.turnus.de/index.cfm?l_menu_ID=2&v_page=pages/produkte/produkte.cfm&v_title=
http://bessey.de/en/category.php?ASIMOID_MC=000000000002da3e00020023
http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/sheet-metal-forming-tools/lever-tin-snips.html
www.padre.de
there are other options like http://betakut.it/ from italy
Do you know any manufacturers of tools besides files and saws ?
Tools in action:
small trolley jack
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/neu1lb47kcswey.jpg
large trolley jack
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wochenende6kuv08ac91f.jpg
impact action
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wochenende8vy50xlbahj.jpg
best way to remove rubber bushings: ??
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wochenende11yk74gmc5dz.jpg
....at least thats what the instruction manual recommends:
(the shop press and a screwdriver worked better though...)
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wochenende130md2n43lou.jpg
some wire wheelin`
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wochenende2047wfpe9da8.jpg
proper brake piston tool
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/neu48eunyshx2m.jpg
misc.
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/neu3rc2zduwy38.jpg
What are you looking for? For example, Snap-On makes a few tools in Portugal. Or you want genuine Portuguese brands? Like http://www.ferramentasmateus.pt/antoniomateus.htm ?
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superautobacs
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Ahhhh, no COO stamped on those sockets. Perhaps they could be Taiwanese as you say.
It's actually the "grain" of the underlying metal; not a result of plating.
I have some Japanese wrenches that have a similar "grain" showing through the plating.
Saltus 1/4" ratchets and metric hex bits
Made in Solingen Germany
Why did they essentially copy a stereotypical Taiwanese ratchet head design...like a Titan or Tekton brand? Where's the German-ness to that?....besides the handle.
What does the underside of that ratchet look like? Is the direction lever fastened by a screw or does it look like a sleeved pin securing it?
Also, are the sockets retained only by a single through-hole...or do they actually have detents on the other sides?
Actually, their ratcheting wrenches have been sourced from Taiwan;the same place Stahlwille sources theirs from. To my knowledge, it's only Gedore that actually produces modern-style ratcheting wrenches.
Cute!
I noticed they also released actual drivers. I may have to upgrade mine from the Classic handle stubby to these
It sure took PB Swiss many years before deciding to upgrade theirs stubbies.
yes one for the red cart, the other for the rolling workbench/work table so 2 people can work together or individually.... ok forgot about the home setwhich will be stored (in the future...) in a Gedore cantilever tool box or Hazet Assistent and the car set which will solely consist of USA made tools and be stored in the Craftsman tool box i got from my secret santa
Oh, do you have a photo of the Craftsman toolbox?
yes just use the proper "core drill" like 6,8mm for a M8 thread for example, drill the hole and then use the machine tap and simply drill through. Only works for through holes though. For a blind hole a cordless drill might work (??) I´ve not tried that though but maybe it works and the clutch engages or maybe not and you have a problem
I'd hate to find outThat's interesting!
Yes it will be a welding table/metal working table for multifunctional use
some pics of the construction.
Looks great, and your Monte Carlo seems like it's coming along great too
Beenman
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I went to the 2nd hand tool shops this Saturday. Picked up some fine old world tools:
Some Knipex circlip pliers (around $2 a piece).
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A big 300mm circlip pliers from Boker Germany (matchbox added for size reference). As an added benefit I used it to adjust the cam belt tensioner on my VW AGG engine - its 'teeth' fits the slots in the tensioner pulley as if it was made for it.
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A 250mm Knipex nail puller (around $6). The jaw edges are still perfect. This was a cool find because normally these type of tools have been badly abused by the time they end up in the 2nd hand tool shops.
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Hazet 914, 450mm power bar ($9). A little bit worn at the head, but was still good enough to help me take some crusty cylinder head bolts off a Toyota 2E engine Saturday evening.
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Some Knipex circlip pliers (around $2 a piece).
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A big 300mm circlip pliers from Boker Germany (matchbox added for size reference). As an added benefit I used it to adjust the cam belt tensioner on my VW AGG engine - its 'teeth' fits the slots in the tensioner pulley as if it was made for it.
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A 250mm Knipex nail puller (around $6). The jaw edges are still perfect. This was a cool find because normally these type of tools have been badly abused by the time they end up in the 2nd hand tool shops.
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Hazet 914, 450mm power bar ($9). A little bit worn at the head, but was still good enough to help me take some crusty cylinder head bolts off a Toyota 2E engine Saturday evening.
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Beenman
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Then a real good find.
Old Hazet 916 ratchet (Herbrand design) for around $29. Very good condition.
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I opened it up to clean the mechanism, but sorry I did not take any pictures at the time (hands full of grease).
Also got this nice 300mm (12') Bahco from my brother (also bought at the 2nd hand tool shops).
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Old Hazet 916 ratchet (Herbrand design) for around $29. Very good condition.
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I opened it up to clean the mechanism, but sorry I did not take any pictures at the time (hands full of grease).
Also got this nice 300mm (12') Bahco from my brother (also bought at the 2nd hand tool shops).
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Beenman
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Also scored a few old sockets (around $1 a piece).
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Beenman
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As I mentioned above, many tools found at these shops are badly abused. Sadly this Hazet spanner was one of them. Sorry for the pic quality, I used my cell phone.
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Nice! I wish I had a shop like that here. That Hazet looks intentionally bent?
Beenman
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Seems someone was in bad need of a half moon spanner
Perhaps it was intentionally. I just wish he used a cheaper brand....
That was a nice and expensive order.
Nice find Miskin.
Where did you find it? Is this an older or new item? I google it and find only one in ebay.de in blue and one more in red from a Polish site.
It is very nice!
Beenmen which one has the more robust chrome? I know dowidat has a thick layer that easily peels off under heavy use.
Beenman
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I have always used Gilbow (was English), now under the Irwin conglomerate.
These were the only brand in the sheet metal factory a family member still owns after 60 years; apart from some Wiss aviation snips.
New Gilbow are probably chinese; so 'vintage' of fleabay is a better option if one wanted Gilbow's...
Tins Snips - Blechschere (?)
Kretzer http://www.kretzer.de/en.html
Padre Triem - made in Germany http://www.padre.de
Bessey - Erdi
Klenk 'premium snips and tools since 1934' http://www.klenktools.com/Main/Default.asp
Forch https://www.foerch.com/produkte/
Turnus http://www.turnus.de
NWS http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/sheet-metal-forming-tools/tin-snips.html
Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore,
Elora list a range, as do Bahco
@cosmic @monte
Thanks guys for the advices for tin snips.
@Blöckw@art
Thanks for the pictures.
I don't want to upset anyone with my 'Made in Germany' thing,
but I prefer tools that are at least made in Europe.
A friend of mine will lend me his "Würth" tin snips (left and right) until I get mine.
Today I was at Obi to look closely at some new stuff.
I found a lovely Connex branded tin snip with two compund handles.
As I forgot my money at home, I ended up with these:
Thanks guys for the advices for tin snips.
@Blöckw@art
Thanks for the pictures.
I don't want to upset anyone with my 'Made in Germany' thing,
but I prefer tools that are at least made in Europe.
A friend of mine will lend me his "Würth" tin snips (left and right) until I get mine.
Today I was at Obi to look closely at some new stuff.
I found a lovely Connex branded tin snip with two compund handles.
As I forgot my money at home, I ended up with these:
Matador - the last ones
Last month I was at Bauhaus to look for a 16mm wrench.
As I was standing in front of the display I realised that the time for German-made Matador wrenches is over.
Only two box-end wrenches 10x13, three 13x17, two combination 16 and two 18 (all metric) were left.
Of course I had to buy both box-ends and the combination one.
Here are some pics. The upper, not so shiny one is from Germany.
The mouth of the Asian-made one is thinner.
The box end is thinner too.
The sets were all non-GER:
The only Matador ratchet with a coo is the 1/2":
Last month I was at Bauhaus to look for a 16mm wrench.
As I was standing in front of the display I realised that the time for German-made Matador wrenches is over.
Only two box-end wrenches 10x13, three 13x17, two combination 16 and two 18 (all metric) were left.
Of course I had to buy both box-ends and the combination one.
Here are some pics. The upper, not so shiny one is from Germany.
The mouth of the Asian-made one is thinner.
The box end is thinner too.
The sets were all non-GER:
The only Matador ratchet with a coo is the 1/2":
cosmik binturong
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has the Bessey/Erdi production been outsourced to some far far far away land of crappy toolmaking???
mine still had "Made in Germany" on the package two years ago...
at least the Footprints are still made in Sheffield!
better pic of the small screwie please?Today I was at Obi to look closely at some new stuff.
I found a lovely Connex branded tin snip with two compund handles.
As I forgot my money at home, I ended up with these:
at least the Footprints are still made in Sheffield!
As it states on the site you linked:
http://www.fpt.co.uk/Products/tinsnips.htm
"The ONLY British Made Tinsnip."
Curiously Footprint also have different site:
http://footprint-tools.co.uk/
with absolutely no mention of tinsnips anywhere I can find.
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dutch79
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Yes, it's from the German brand Allit:
http://www.allit.de/de/startseite/
The Hazet version was €18,- for me, so not that expensive. Plus, it matches my other Assistents and cabinet of Hazet nicely
nickjj
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Question: What do you get the Facom-fan who has... well not everything but certainly an awful lot?
Answer: Our very own exceptionally-considerate, galactically-inclined bearcat, Cosmic Binturong has surprised me with this lovely miniature Facom screwdriver:
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Pictured also is the very envelope it arrived in, demonstrating that he is every bit as whimsical as he is thoughtful. In a very manic and stressful week of work, this made me chuckle, and so for the smile as much as the gift, I say "Merci beaucoup, mon ami!" (Before anyone replies en Francais; Despite being from a bilingual country, I am, ashamedly, entirely singular in my linguistic capacity).
Answer: Our very own exceptionally-considerate, galactically-inclined bearcat, Cosmic Binturong has surprised me with this lovely miniature Facom screwdriver:
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Pictured also is the very envelope it arrived in, demonstrating that he is every bit as whimsical as he is thoughtful. In a very manic and stressful week of work, this made me chuckle, and so for the smile as much as the gift, I say "Merci beaucoup, mon ami!" (Before anyone replies en Francais; Despite being from a bilingual country, I am, ashamedly, entirely singular in my linguistic capacity).