Hi Roverbo.You do have a point when you talk about product design,and what you say about amateur vs proffesional.When i go to a local car dealership i take a peak in the employees tool cabinets,and well maybe im a snob when it comes to tools ( and some other things) and what they have is not to my standards......lots of what i consider as cheap brands,like Teng Tools.In norway the Teng Tools importer have done a great job on marketing the brand,and you can buy their tools many places......i do not think Teng Tools are anywhere near what you can call well designed,but still they sell good,because of marketing campaigns,and not that cheap either. What i forgot to say earlier when i bashed Stanley,was about the economic aspects of outsourcing parts of the manufacturing,i dont know how many lost their jobs at facom,but running a factory also benefits the surroundings of where the factory placed,that is even more important today when the economic situation around the world aint the best.So i rather buy products made in europe just for that reason......It would be interesting to see a price comparison between a set of combinatoin wrenches ranging from 8-24 mm.Facom 440 vs Stahlwille open box vs Gedore 7 series. Do the customer get cheaper tools when high quality brands move their production to low cost countries?
Nope, the custumer only gets a long nose...and the quality control of a known brand. My guess: One of the reasons why Europe has been an "easy victim" of Teng Tools etc. (which btw. are OK tools, but not up to Hazet, Stahlwille etc. IMHO) is the fact that the employer is the suppilier of tools in most european workshops, where in the US, you come to the job with your own box. So owning a Snappy or Matco cabinet defines your status as a serious craftsman. In Europe, you just show up with your hands and experience (and papers from the technical school).
I realize quoting and editing posts isnt my strongest sideAnyway off to the Kamasa wrenches i do have a set of both the kamasa w-germany and kamasa japan sets. From what i think the W-Germany must be from the 80s.The japan made ones was sold during the 90s. Kamasa also sold a design almost the same as the japanese,but no coo marking.
That is strange, from the text on their web, Kamasa started as a swedish distributor of japanese tools...but it looks like the w-german came first?

Someone is going to want help on their old 3 series, my 2003 needs tons of 18mm & 16mm. as well as pretty much every other size.
You mean a Land Rover series III? You´ll need metric, ½", 7/16", 9/16" and probably a biiig 52 mm (for the wheelhub). Most parts will be self-lubricating (oil-spill)










