I think if I can find these gedore ones I will get them, but the NWS ones are also a good possibilty. Or BOTH of them
yes both would be the best !
The Gedore pliers can be ordered directly from the Gedore USA website. The 3 different length "Lever-action end cutter" you can find here:
click (after seeing the price you prolly only want the NWS pliers )
@Monte, thank you for your infos about he heavy duty plier, it seems one company produce for all, maybe it's "Granit". Don't know.
i think there are at least 2 or 3 (?) different manufacturers. If you look at the Facom, Gedore, Granit and Heyco pliers, they have a different looking joint (handle connection to the "head") compared to the last 3 pliers posted (Elora, VBW, Corneta) (see pics). Gedore additionally has different looking handles. So that possibly makes 3 different manufacturers. The last time i called Facom the country of origin for the Facom version "191A.22EL" was Italy. So if the others are german + the italian + brazilian = 5 different manufacturers ?? i dunno ..... Maybe the DIN norm exactly says how they should look like .... or one company started to make them and the others copied them ?
the differences
however here some pics which i found on ebay.fr
recent style Facom pliers:
old style (?) Facom pliers:
(if you`re interested they`re on ebay.fr 4 sale:
click
Concerning torque wrenches, what's your opinion, your favorite : Wille, Hazet or Gedore ?
I personally prefer a scale like you see on the Stahlwille wrenches "Hazet" posted, or the Facom 208A series or Gedore "Torcofix" or like the "Dremometer". "Speedometer type".
Gedore Dremometer:
The problem with the "Dremometer" is most come without ratchet, so you have to buy a extra ratchet adapter which makes the wrench even more expensive. I only found the model
8573-10 BCK with integrated ratchet (40-200 NM) for 560.- € + tax !! The same wrench without ratchet is 399,90 € ( 413,20 € if you want to have a double square for clock and counterclockwise turning). A additionally 1/2" ratchet adapter cost 86.- €.
A nice wrench but too expensive imho.
Gedore Torcofix:
The 2 Gedore "Torcofix" wrenches which i own have a good scale which easily can be read. The 20-200 NM wrench has a 1 NM graduation the 2-25 NM wrench 0,1 NM. Gedore is the only one where you can cover the range from 2 to 200 NM with just 2 wrenches (Hazet + Stahlwille you need 3 wrenches) which is the most used and important range for me. They have the best price (in their "Promo" offerings) and you need 2 wrenches so it is the cheapest way to get quality torque wrenches. That`s the main reason i have them (even cheaper if you buy the rebadged versions from "Format" or "Promat") (SAM Outillage offers them too i think)
Hazet:
I just don`t like the "engraved" scale. Thats all i can say
(the 5000 CLT series would be ok though ....this one:
click )
They have a "Spring"-system like most other wrenches (Torcofix etc.) which has to be set back to zero or the spring can wear out. Stahlwille (and i think the Dremometer) have a "Lever"-system which don´t have to be set back to "0" every time you use it. (Stahlwille recommends to set it to "0" if you don`t use the wrench much too though)
Stahlwille:
see above. Stahlwille
"Service Manoskop 730N" with a good scale, "Lever" system, "Quick release" to exchange the ratchet head with a crowfeet etc. with the push of a button and lower price compared to the
Gedore Dremometer.
So if you have a tight budget: Gedore Torcofix (fewer wrenches needed), if money is no issue
Stahlwille
Manoskop 730N
ps:
www.stahlwille.fr
Clé dynamométrique mécanique 730N:
fichier pdf
english:
click
So Stahlwille would be my favourite but I´m happy with my Gedore ("Rahsol" + "Format" brand) wrenches.
Gedore "Torcofix" scale:
the 34 NM can easily be read off the scale:
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