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OK, one vote for each!
Thanks for the input guys. Would it be possible for each of you to measure the over all length and thickness of the head?
Also the dimensions of the case?
Thanks again,
zeug
I would say avoid WIHA. The magnet in it doesn't stay there, both of mine fell apart. It is also too weak to hold the bit tight. The switch is too loose and often change direction by accident.
The ratchet is made in Taiwan. A lot of places have this miss-listed, I know this because I brought it to the attention of KC Tool and they confirmed it through Wera and changed all but a few of the sets on their site. They also did it for Wiha.
https://www.kctoolco.com/wera-073230-bit-ratchet-1-4-drive/
Does anyone here know the COO on this facom 3/8" ratchet? I'm trying to find a simple set of 3/8" sockets + ratchet that's made in europe around €100~€150 but I have a hard time finding out which of the european brands still make their ratchets in europe, many of them seem to be from taiwan. I'm also looking at this set from Stahlwille which does seem to be german made, but again I'm not sure. Maybe you guys have recommendations other than the well known brands though, I'm open to suggestions 
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.Ralf99
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Does anyone here know the COO on this facom 3/8" ratchet? I'm trying to find a simple set of 3/8" sockets + ratchet that's made in europe around €100~€150 but I have a hard time finding out which of the european brands still make their ratchets in europe, many of them seem to be from taiwan. I'm also looking at this set from Stahlwille which does seem to be german made, but again I'm not sure. Maybe you guys have recommendations other than the well known brands though, I'm open to suggestions
Taiwan. I have the Sidchrome version, and they are also sold under USAG - all Stanley brands. Very nice set either way.
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Does anyone here know the COO on this facom 3/8" ratchet? I'm trying to find a simple set of 3/8" sockets + ratchet that's made in europe around €100~€150 but I have a hard time finding out which of the european brands still make their ratchets in europe, many of them seem to be from taiwan. I'm also looking at this set from Stahlwille which does seem to be german made, but again I'm not sure. Maybe you guys have recommendations other than the well known brands though, I'm open to suggestions
The pear head ratchet is made in Taiwan.
Cynical huckster
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Bahco 2101G-160 cutting pliers. Made in Spain.
Kasal
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Does anyone here know the COO on this facom 3/8" ratchet? I'm trying to find a simple set of 3/8" sockets + ratchet that's made in europe around €100~€150 but I have a hard time finding out which of the european brands still make their ratchets in europe, many of them seem to be from taiwan. I'm also looking at this set from Stahlwille which does seem to be german made, but again I'm not sure. Maybe you guys have recommendations other than the well known brands though, I'm open to suggestions
Try searching, Hazet, Gedore, Stahlwille.
If I'm not mistaken they are made in Germany.
But find out if someone can confirm it.
This comes late but heres comparison of hazet, wiha, wera bitratchet(I put also ko-ken 1/4 zeal ratchet althought it isnt bitratchet, but if you use it with bitsocket, it isnt so much longer...)
Hazet is the biggest and less tooth, maybe 22 or 30 but its strongest and the handle works with slippery hands better than wiha or wera.
Wihas plastic feels poorly made, have use it only couple of times...
Wera is built much better than wiha, plastic thumbfeel works well and has about 2,5 times more tooth than hazet.
So if there is some space, hazet is clear winner for me, otherwise wera.
Havent use ko-ken yet, but with its short handle very handy in tight places(with bitsocket perhaps 10-15mm longer compare to bitratchet with bit...)
Ps.sorry for bad english
Hazet is the biggest and less tooth, maybe 22 or 30 but its strongest and the handle works with slippery hands better than wiha or wera.
Wihas plastic feels poorly made, have use it only couple of times...
Wera is built much better than wiha, plastic thumbfeel works well and has about 2,5 times more tooth than hazet.
So if there is some space, hazet is clear winner for me, otherwise wera.
Havent use ko-ken yet, but with its short handle very handy in tight places(with bitsocket perhaps 10-15mm longer compare to bitratchet with bit...)
Ps.sorry for bad english
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Here is one stahlwille 3/8 set. I got it two months ago from amazon.de. The price was then 130€, dont know how much is it now...
Ratchet has 30tooth and is strongly built, no quick release
I have older similar set with 12 point sockets and i have nothing to complain with it and that is why i got the other set(almost with the price of new sockets i got ratchet, extensions and case).
Cant say how durable the plastic case is. Metal one would be nicer but it seems that a lot of manufactures has gone to that direction...
Stahlwille is a bit cheaper than Hazet, but I think the quality is quite equal.
Personally i dont have experience with gedore ratchet and sockets...gedore might be cheapest compare to stahlwille and hazet.
Stahlwille and Hazet 100% made in germany, gedore used to be but i’m not sure how is it today...
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I am trying to find a 27mm deep socket with deep nut insertion(picture)
Would like it to be at least 50mm...
Chrome or impact both would do.
I know hazet makes 4555 but the price is also very nice. Little cheaper would be nice for a job to do once in two years
Anyone know where should i search?
Would like it to be at least 50mm...
Chrome or impact both would do.
I know hazet makes 4555 but the price is also very nice
. Little cheaper would be nice for a job to do once in two years Anyone know where should i search?
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Yannick
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I have found this vintage socketset found on marktplaats.nl.
The brand is Derby from Poland.
I don't now what this brand is today
OCC is Made in Poland
the sockets are beautiful, heavy and it is not the very shiny tools of today it is strong.
Not possible for cylindrical countersunk bolt
Small VS Big
Nice Bi-haxegon drive
It don't have a hole in the square.
12 teeth ratched. It don't have any marks of brand and OCC but it is originaly Derby.
And a very old Matador. The OCC mark says its made in W-Germany
The brand is Derby from Poland.
I don't now what this brand is today
OCC is Made in Poland
the sockets are beautiful, heavy and it is not the very shiny tools of today it is strong.
Not possible for cylindrical countersunk bolt
Small VS Big
Nice Bi-haxegon drive
It don't have a hole in the square.
12 teeth ratched. It don't have any marks of brand and OCC but it is originaly Derby.
And a very old Matador. The OCC mark says its made in W-Germany
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Plastic boxes are not good on any of of them with worst being the Stahlwille.
Sockets are kind of equal but Hazet and Gedore being stronger but thicker. Stahlwille very good and thinner for clearance in automotive work. For example both 1/4 and 3/8 Stahlwille have the same thickness for the same size.
Best knurling from Hazet. Tolerances Best Stahlwillle then Hazet and last the Gedore.
Ratchets I have both Stahlwille and Gedore. I like the ergonomics of Gedore better but Stahlwille is also very good. Stahlwille feels a bit tighter but Gedore has no Backdrag. Hazet is very strong but also coarse when new at least.
I also have Facom and the feel is best but the ergonomics of Gedore still better for me; quick release button, recessed lever for changing direction and handle shape?
Especially for the ratchets you need to buy in the shop for 2 reasons.
1. The feel on your hand and details
2. You can choose the one with the less backdrag. Most ratchets I have tested are a bit different.
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Sockets are kind of equal but Hazet and Gedore being stronger but thicker. Stahlwille very good and thinner for clearance in automotive work. For example both 1/4 and 3/8 Stahlwille have the same thickness for the same size.
Best knurling from Hazet. Tolerances Best Stahlwillle then Hazet and last the Gedore.
Ratchets I have both Stahlwille and Gedore. I like the ergonomics of Gedore better but Stahlwille is also very good. Stahlwille feels a bit tighter but Gedore has no Backdrag. Hazet is very strong but also coarse when new at least.
I also have Facom and the feel is best but the ergonomics of Gedore still better for me; quick release button, recessed lever for changing direction and handle shape?
Especially for the ratchets you need to buy in the shop for 2 reasons.
1. The feel on your hand and details
2. You can choose the one with the less backdrag. Most ratchets I have tested are a bit different.
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Dave455
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Does anyone here know the COO on this facom 3/8" ratchet? I'm trying to find a simple set of 3/8" sockets + ratchet that's made in europe around €100~€150 but I have a hard time finding out which of the european brands still make their ratchets in europe, many of them seem to be from taiwan. I'm also looking at this set from Stahlwille which does seem to be german made, but again I'm not sure. Maybe you guys have recommendations other than the well known brands though, I'm open to suggestions
As others have said, these are made in Taiwan. The older, and in my opinion better, style of 'Palm Control' ratchets still seem to be available, and are still made in Italy (by USAG I believe) where they always have been.
Here in the U.K. you seem to be able to get sets with either style of ratchet!
Yes, Stahlwille, Hazet, Gedore, Elora, I think Heyco, and a whole load of others make their ratchets in their own factories in their own countries. It's only when Stanley take over a firm that everything gets cheapened but the price! But do ensure that you get the proper tools, some firms offer a 'bottom end' range that is usually outsourced.
Stahlwille are just introducing new ratchets. They seem to look identical to the older models, but have slightly different part numbers and are all fine tooth. Have yet to see feedback on these but suspect they are going to be good.
Have a look at TBS Aachen for some good online prices on Stahlwille, Hazet and Gedore. British eBay seems to be best for Facom.
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Yes, some parts of the set are made in the Czech Republic but not all.
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm currently leaning towards the stahlwille sets with fine tooth ratchet, especially since I also have a set of their open/box wrenches and the tolerances on those are near perfect. I'll try to check them and also hazet/gedore out in a store at some point before dropping €200+ on a set though.
Reed Prince
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The first few generations of iFixit tools were poorly made Chinese products. I was pleasantly surprised by the apparent quality of these new, German screwdriver sets.
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Pro-Tech-Screwdriver-Set-5-piece-Specialty/IF145-397-1
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Pro-Tech-Screwdriver-Set-5-piece-Specialty/IF145-397-1
racingtadpole
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Any more pictures of the Tools? How do you like the saw compared to other brands by experience?
Thanks!
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lilcraigford
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I will second the KAI recommendation! I have two pair in 8" (N5210) and 5.5" (N5135) for general purpose (i.e. paper) cutting. The quality is excellent; smooth action, sharp cutting edge and comfortable handles. I was originally looking for some secondhand Sweden or USA-made Fiskars when I discovered KAI and I am glad I did!
racingtadpole
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I'm doing an ensuite reno at the moment, I can take some pictures of the Metabo stuff I have in the wild as I use them
I have previously had DeWalt, Ryobi and Triton Table saws. Without writing war and peace on it, the Metabo is by far the most accurate, easiest to set up, easiest to adjust, and smoothest running (largely because it has a soft start), and most stable of the lot. I also really like that it can turn itself into a wheeled unit for mobility. I have two small quibbles with it, firstly I broke the door to the compartment where you can store spare blades for it off in fairly quick order when I started using it, but looking at the design it was always going to happen. I don't really use it anyway so Im not too fussed, I did put it back on and put some screws in it so it looked complete because thats just my nature
My second gripe (and probably more important if you are considering purchasing one) is that the blade is somewhat of a pain to change because there is no access hole in the side of the housing under the surface to accommodate a tube spanner. The supplied pressed steel spanner, whilst stout enough is just at a convenient length to almost guarantee you will skin your knuckles on the teeth of the blade when you crack the retaining nut for the blade. I have a drawing done for a longer slightly different shape one to send to the laser cutting place I use next time I put a job in there to rectify the issue. Having now written this, I may also consider looking at whether or not I could punch a hole for a tube spanner too.So having written all that, I am in general somewhat of a Metabo fanboy, most of my power tools are Metabo and the lining boards of my garage have a Metabo green and red trim strip to cover the join up the wall (yes I took a German made Metabo tool to the paint shop for a colour match on the green
..really!)Hope that helps
I'm doing an ensuite reno at the moment, I can take some pictures of the Metabo stuff I have in the wild as I use them
I have previously had DeWalt, Ryobi and Triton Table saws. Without writing war and peace on it, the Metabo is by far the most accurate, easiest to set up, easiest to adjust, and smoothest running (largely because it has a soft start), and most stable of the lot. I also really like that it can turn itself into a wheeled unit for mobility. I have two small quibbles with it, firstly I broke the door to the compartment where you can store spare blades for it off in fairly quick order when I started using it, but looking at the design it was always going to happen. I don't really use it anyway so Im not too fussed, I did put it back on and put some screws in it so it looked complete because thats just my nature
So having written all that, I am in general somewhat of a Metabo fanboy, most of my power tools are Metabo and the lining boards of my garage have a Metabo green and red trim strip to cover the join up the wall (yes I took a German made Metabo tool to the paint shop for a colour match on the green
Hope that helps
I've had nothing but problems when it comes to Metabo. I'm currently attempting to purchase some replacement Carbon brushes for my 1100 Drill. Contacted them through their website several times, no reply. Found the part number, googled, amazon searched etc can't find it. Contacted them through their facebook page, nothing so far there either.
After this experience, and a previous experience, I'm about ready to just throw them all in the garbage and work with a company that will actually respond to an email or message and tell me where I can purchase parts.
I'm shocked at how bad their customer service is. Least Time Warner picks up my phone calls.
racingtadpole
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You'll need to find an authorised service centre to procure your parts. I have no issue obtaining parts (although sometimes there is a lead because they are not ex stock) from the authorised repair centre closest to my home. I live in Australia, you live in the US so your mileage may vary on that count.
Having said that, if its not working for you, move on to something that does.
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This may help you with a part number.
Part 42 on the exploded diagram, cost of AUD 38. (about USD 30 give or take at the moment)
http://www.toolspareparts.com.au/metabo-bde-1100-00806000-spare-parts.html
If you cant get them anywhere local, PM me.
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Appreciate it. From what I looked up on the metabo parts diagram, I need 316035080 for the carbon brushes. Didn't have any luck on amazon.com, or Amazon.de. or eBay.
Metabo needs to step up and be able to respond to a customer who own owns I think about 8 or 9 of their tools now, and just needs 1 basic part. Not like I'm asking for free or warranty service.
The last time I tried to contact them to get service on a defective casting for the gear housing of a drill that I'd purchased brand new, I went through a very similar experience, paid 30 dollars to ship it off to them, to have it returned to me, and be told that it is a defect, they've notified the factory, but heres my tool back with no resolution as they saw it as being cosmetic only, and they then stopped responding to messages. So much for a premium tool company.
racingtadpole
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If you cant get them locally, PM me, happy to help if I can
racingtadpole
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18V SDS rotary hammer earning its keep..
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I don't know where you live but if you're in europe you can order them here: https://www.kruis.nl/onderdelen/metabo/bde-1100/v1
I'm in the USA
There are plenty in UK as well for good price I think.
I can post them to you but it would probably be after Christmas due to holiday season.
Have a look and let me know which is the part exactly you need.
https://www.mtmc.co.uk/Metabo-BDE-1100-/-00806390-/-GB-110V-Spare-Parts__p-102646.aspx
https://www.sparetoolparts.co.uk/metabo-bde-1100-carbon-brush-316035080-spare-part-type-806390.html
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Woaa,
Thanks for the info about the table saw that would be useful once I need one☺.
Does the battery hammer has enough power to demolish few concrete slabs?
How long does the battery last in normal wall destruction.
Cheers![emoji106]
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I appreciate it.
I'd like to get USA Metabo to step up to the plate that if they're going to sell tools here, they need to provide parts, service, and contact for their customers to be able to purchase parts.
I've never had the slightest of trouble buying parts from Fein for instance, and they're much smaller and more difficult to purchase actual tools.
For those wondering. Heres the drill:
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jessysirazvan
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I am trying to find a 27mm deep socket with deep nut insertion(picture)
Would like it to be at least 50mm...
Chrome or impact both would do.
I know hazet makes 4555 but the price is also very nice
Anyone know where should i search?
padre tools made in germany length 77mm ,i own some padre tools and are good quality
https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B00KJ...bussola+27&dpPl=1&dpID=41+z4efGRdL&ref=plSrch
racingtadpole
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Im only stripping the screed coat out from under the tiles. Its plenty strong enough for that although the batteries arent really up for that amount of work, it eats them pretty quickly. To be honest, I was using it because it was handy (didn't have my corded one with me), I finished the job tonight with a much larger corded SDS hammer. Where it does excel is smaller holes in bricks for things like Ramset plugs. Also pretty handy for toothing out brick work because its lighter than a corded unit making it a bit more friendly for overhead stuff.
Hope that helps
Cynical huckster
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Here's what I got this summer as samples from Mundial Casartelli.
They call these pliers "industrial", but this is not entirely true. They have better quality than DIY tools, but I wouldn't call them professional or industrial.
Pliers look strongly made and cut thin steel wire good enough, but I can't say more about their working capacity. I'm not a professional user, I'm a salesman Moreover, I did not give them to test to any of my customers. There is no gap between the cutting edges, the pliers cut even a copper wire as thin as a human hair. Anyhow, finish is poor enough. Pliers have started to rust, despite the fact that they were not in a wet environment or in others extreme conditions.
Two-component handles have poor quality and feel like cheap plastic. They also stink
However, if we are talking about smelly handles, Mundial's waterpump pliers are the absolute champion Handles also don't have the anti-slip coating, so working with oil or grease will be a problem. However, metal is good enough, and pliers do their job.
Anyhow, I would agree to sell Mundial tools if they had the same price level as JTC or Force, for example. But with their prices... No, thanks.
They call these pliers "industrial", but this is not entirely true. They have better quality than DIY tools, but I wouldn't call them professional or industrial.
Pliers look strongly made and cut thin steel wire good enough, but I can't say more about their working capacity. I'm not a professional user, I'm a salesman
Moreover, I did not give them to test to any of my customers. There is no gap between the cutting edges, the pliers cut even a copper wire as thin as a human hair. Anyhow, finish is poor enough. Pliers have started to rust, despite the fact that they were not in a wet environment or in others extreme conditions.Two-component handles have poor quality and feel like cheap plastic. They also stink
However, if we are talking about smelly handles, Mundial's waterpump pliers are the absolute champion
Handles also don't have the anti-slip coating, so working with oil or grease will be a problem. However, metal is good enough, and pliers do their job.
Anyhow, I would agree to sell Mundial tools if they had the same price level as JTC or Force, for example. But with their prices... No, thanks.
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Very helpful,
I try to avoid having many different battery tools due to the power and duration as well as the battery investment, especially for DIY.
THANK YOU
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