For Zurich go to Jumbo which is a Home Depot style shop. You'll find the proper department inside. Also galaxus.ch for online buying / price checking.
Tools from the old world
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Now you need some open box 14's; Got this not too long ago for 82eur shipped.
I thought this was the best value as to price and number of tools (and fabric case which I really needed), 8-22mm
Nah.... I have found the combination spanners to be of lesser use than a set of open ends and another of box ends for the type of work where they are most needed (holding the sway/stabilizer bar nut with an open end 17mm while you loosen/tighten the bolt with a box end 17mm). If i had the combination set, i would still need to have another set for such kind of jobs. This is why i have standardized my tools to dedicated open end and box end sets.
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Wow !! fantastic job on the box restoration !!Hi everyone. I've been watching this thread for a while but never posted anything.
A restoration of Facom S set could be an appropriate start, I guess?
It was in quite a bad shape.
Then restore from inside.
The added slot is for S141.
The box took me a long time...
As far as prices, Czech will be the cheapest followed by Italy (Both Euros). Switzerland be very expensive with the exchange rate and cost of living. There are several Hornbachs and OBIs in Prague and both carry some quality tool brands- Knipex, NWS, Whia, Wera, etc and some cheap non-European tools like Gedore Red -wrenches are India. Some middle brands are Proxxon but I think they are Taiwan. They don't stock Hazet, Stahwille, etc but I'm sure they are available. I can check with my friend who has family there. I lived in northern Italy for a few years and there were a few good tools available, but not sure about Rome specifically.
Quick search for Prague:
Dave455
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In Switzerland, there is an electrical tool supplier called Bugnard. They have a lot of tools, some of them custom made for them. These Victorinox knives are an example.
Dave455
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The quality of the restoration and paintwork on the box is first class - again!Facom U54
Rusted outside, not too bad inside.
Did some clean work. Luckly found some hose and connections made in France.
Get painted too.
Can I ask what process you are using?
Old Made in France Facom tools are fantastic and absolutely nowhere near current ones in quality and finish.Parts were washed while handles and sockets were polished (not too hard).
Here's the result.
Instead of sand blasting, I'm using sandpaper to remove rust, then basic polishing. Hammer and punch are used to deal with dents, while putty are applied for surface detailing. Painting work: primer-- 2 or 3 layers orangered-- 1 layer clear coat. Then heat treated for 60min at 45℃.
Sam 1/2 set from the old world. Not sure about the year this set was manufactured.
This set was abandoned, luckly the parts are not so rusted which can be easily restored.
After restoration:
No COO on sockets.
It is hard to see SAM tools here. Could anyone comment on the relationship between SAM and Facom?
This set was abandoned, luckly the parts are not so rusted which can be easily restored.
After restoration:
No COO on sockets.
It is hard to see SAM tools here. Could anyone comment on the relationship between SAM and Facom?
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Dave455
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Very nice!Sam 1/2 set from the old world. Not sure about the year this set was manufactured.
This set was abandoned, luckly the parts are not so rusted which can be easily restored.
After restoration:
No COO on sockets.
It is hard to see SAM tools here. Could anyone comment on the relationship between SAM and Facom?
The old SAM stuff was superb. No fancy finishes, but very rugged.
I would be very surprised if those sockets were anything other than French made.
SAM were a very big contractor to the French government. Many French army tools are SAM.
I’m not aware of any relationship between SAM and FACOM. Some of the tools look similar, but I think that’s because they were both making tools to similar patterns, and the same standards.
I got very few SAM for comparing, anyway they really look similar.
SAM:
Facom AMX:
The design of Facom isoryl is quite charming.
Dave455
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Yes, they do look similar. Certainly similar “Isoryl”.I got very few SAM for comparing, anyway they really look similar.
SAM:
Facom AMX:
The design of Facom isoryl is quite charming.
I have never seen a SAM screwdriver before. The only tools I’ve seen are things like wrenches and socket sets, which are definitely different.
There are some things that SAM seem to do very well, such as some forged box spanners I once saw, which were exceptionally nice.
I loved those Facom interchangeable blade screwdrivers, and regret that I only have the smallest. All the isoryl handled tools are nice, but they have recently reduced the range they offer. Wishing I’d bought one of the big sets.
Markoos
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Had same stanley 3/8 set years ago, unfortunately lost it somewhere. Great strong ratchet and compact too, (replaced countless nissan diesel turbochargers with it), wish I still had it.
tungas123456
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Hello Guy,
Can anyone tell me if this Wiha model number 42062 is manufactured by Wiha itself or by another company OEM?
I noticed some of their wire strippers are due to the Weicon tool OEM?
Thank you and sorry for the bad English.
Can anyone tell me if this Wiha model number 42062 is manufactured by Wiha itself or by another company OEM?
I noticed some of their wire strippers are due to the Weicon tool OEM?
Thank you and sorry for the bad English.
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Reed Prince
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My guess would be Weidmüller.
Pixel_Rage
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The manufacturer is Wezag
WEZAG – Cable BST
WEZAG ist einer der führenden Hersteller von Crimp-, Schneid- und Spezialwerkzeugen für den professionellen und industriellen Bedarf! Quality made in Germany.
www.wezag.de
tungas123456
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Thank for your information,The manufacturer is Wezag
WEZAG – Cable BST
WEZAG ist einer der führenden Hersteller von Crimp-, Schneid- und Spezialwerkzeugen für den professionellen und industriellen Bedarf! Quality made in Germany.
Can you tell me more about Weidmuller making their own wire strippers or OEM by another company?
Very nice job on the restoration! Finally something that's not Facom. 
Do you have any idea when PB Swiss stopped imprinting handles? I have a PB #280 reamer that I inherited from my dad that has the imprinted handle; I wonder how old it might be.
Do you have any idea when PB Swiss stopped imprinting handles? I have a PB #280 reamer that I inherited from my dad that has the imprinted handle; I wonder how old it might be.
Got no clue on time line of pb swiss things. What I have most are products after 2018... Still keep trying to search catalogues of themVery nice job on the restoration! Finally something that's not Facom.
Do you have any idea when PB Swiss stopped imprinting handles? I have a PB #280 reamer that I inherited from my dad that has the imprinted handle; I wonder how old it might be.
Dave455
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Very nice! A worthy restoration, and nicely done.PB Swiss No.5200 series.
After restoration:
I thought someone has post a set of pb swiss screwdrivers with this kind of handle in this thread, but could't find it.
I only have this handle on awls. Nice tools. Didn’t even know they had offered it on nut runners.
All my nut runners have the current “classic” handle,
Nice and classic collections!Very nice! A worthy restoration, and nicely done.
I only have this handle on awls. Nice tools. Didn’t even know they had offered it on nut runners.
All my nut runners have the current “classic” handle,
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Reed Prince
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Ordered the new Knipex pliers wrench from Mister Worker in January. Finally arrived this week.
All of them... so far.
edit: They're compact enough for transistor radio repair.
All of them... so far.
edit: They're compact enough for transistor radio repair.
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My recent acquisitions:
I needed a new bench vice since I broke the POS vice that I recently bought.
Here is the broken Irwin vice when I tried pressing an insert into a flag mount bracket I was making for my Y61 Patrol.
So I went ahead and bought a nice new Heuer 120mm with fixed jaws and fixed base. I don’t have much use for the swivel base but I will be buying magnetic soft jaws very soon since I do work with Aluminium and Wood sometimes.
I also bought a Ruko hand deburring tool so I don’t have to use knives, drill bits and other random sharp objects to debur
The Ruko comes with three deburring inserts that can be stored inside the handle which has multi component grip and feels rightly sized for my hands. The debur insert can be loaded using the spring loaded collet which is mounted on an extendable shaft which makes it easier to access deeper spots.
I also bought these Hazet plastic handles for randomly using with files or other tools that will fit them but I doubt these are made in Germany/EU at all.
I needed a new bench vice since I broke the POS vice that I recently bought.
Here is the broken Irwin vice when I tried pressing an insert into a flag mount bracket I was making for my Y61 Patrol.
So I went ahead and bought a nice new Heuer 120mm with fixed jaws and fixed base. I don’t have much use for the swivel base but I will be buying magnetic soft jaws very soon since I do work with Aluminium and Wood sometimes.
I also bought a Ruko hand deburring tool so I don’t have to use knives, drill bits and other random sharp objects to debur
The Ruko comes with three deburring inserts that can be stored inside the handle which has multi component grip and feels rightly sized for my hands. The debur insert can be loaded using the spring loaded collet which is mounted on an extendable shaft which makes it easier to access deeper spots.
I also bought these Hazet plastic handles for randomly using with files or other tools that will fit them but I doubt these are made in Germany/EU at all.
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My first dip into the Hazet and Gedore ponds. I'm very pleased with the Hazet items. With the Gedore, I have mixed feelings.
Firstly, the Hazet bit ratchet set is extremely nice...both in quality and assortment, and the case is brilliant. The ratchet has a lot of back drag, but I'm sure it will lighten up as it breaks in. The main purpose of this kit, is to be used as a quick-and-easy portable tool kit. Mainly to be thrown in the car/travel bag when I go cycling trips, so it's way overkill for that. But, it was on Amazon Germany for a very good price, and I've been wanting to try Hazet for a while, so why not? The 1/2" ratchet is well made, smooth and the shape of the handle/balance of it give it an excellent in-hand feel.
Then the Gedore punches are pretty underwhelming, unfortunately. If I didn't buy them from Germany, I would have sent them back. The ball peen hammer is Gedore Red, aka Made in China, but for the price, it is excellent.
Firstly, the Hazet bit ratchet set is extremely nice...both in quality and assortment, and the case is brilliant. The ratchet has a lot of back drag, but I'm sure it will lighten up as it breaks in. The main purpose of this kit, is to be used as a quick-and-easy portable tool kit. Mainly to be thrown in the car/travel bag when I go cycling trips, so it's way overkill for that. But, it was on Amazon Germany for a very good price, and I've been wanting to try Hazet for a while, so why not? The 1/2" ratchet is well made, smooth and the shape of the handle/balance of it give it an excellent in-hand feel.
Then the Gedore punches are pretty underwhelming, unfortunately. If I didn't buy them from Germany, I would have sent them back. The ball peen hammer is Gedore Red, aka Made in China, but for the price, it is excellent.
My first dip into the Hazet and Gedore ponds. I'm very pleased with the Hazet items. With the Gedore, I have mixed feelings.
Firstly, the Hazet bit ratchet set is extremely nice...both in quality and assortment, and the case is brilliant. The ratchet has a lot of back drag, but I'm sure it will lighten up as it breaks in. The main purpose of this kit, is to be used as a quick-and-easy portable tool kit. Mainly to be thrown in the car/travel bag when I go cycling trips, so it's way overkill for that. But, it was on Amazon Germany for a very good price, and I've been wanting to try Hazet for a while, so why not? The 1/2" ratchet is well made, smooth and the shape of the handle/balance of it give it an excellent in-hand feel.
Then the Gedore punches are pretty underwhelming, unfortunately. If I didn't buy them from Germany, I would have sent them back. The ball peen hammer is Gedore Red, aka Made in China, but for the price, it is excellent.
Did they ship you a used 1/2" ratchet ? The "T" in Hazet is missing/worn off.
It doesn't appear to be used...not a mark on it. It just looks like the "T" never made it on during manufacturing. Maybe that's why the price was so good?
As with the punches, if it didn't come from Germany, I would have asked for a replacement. But, it doesn't bother me anymore.
SAA44-40
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I really like Stahwille and I see their adjustable wrenches are made in Spain. Before purchasing, is there another Euro manufacturer I should consider? Thank you
Dave455
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The only manufacturers of adjustable wrenches in Europe are Irega and Bahco, both made in Spain.
Whatever brand of wrench you buy, if it’s European made, it will come out of one or other of those factories.
Whether the manufacturers offer different grades of tool according to the client‘s specification is open to debate, but I believe they do. I have one Stahlwille adjustable, and it’s a decent thing. Obviously made by Irega in their Zaldibar factory, but very little slop and nicely finished.
If you pick another brand, beware that some rebrand Chinese made wrenches, and are not too transparent about this. Buyer beware!
The only other real alternative is to opt for Japanese made. I’ve seen very nice adjustables by “Top”, but best of the bunch has probably got to be Nepros, shown below.
SAA44-40
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Nepros- be still my beating heart. I’ll take em! Great rec Dave, thank you
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The Japanese adjustable wrenches from Lobtex are also excellent
Someone just posted that the Nepros adjustable has more slop than usual, over on the tools of Japan thread.The only manufacturers of adjustable wrenches in Europe are Irega and Bahco, both made in Spain.
Whatever brand of wrench you buy, if it’s European made, it will come out of one or other of those factories.
Whether the manufacturers offer different grades of tool according to the client‘s specification is open to debate, but I believe they do. I have one Stahlwille adjustable, and it’s a decent thing. Obviously made by Irega in their Zaldibar factory, but very little slop and nicely finished.
If you pick another brand, beware that some rebrand Chinese made wrenches, and are not too transparent about this. Buyer beware!
The only other real alternative is to opt for Japanese made. I’ve seen very nice adjustables by “Top”, but best of the bunch has probably got to be Nepros, shown below.
I’d go with Lobtex or Top if buying Japanese.
This confirms it for me. Amazon . de (often) sells Hazet factory seconds!! Read the amazon de comments. Myself, twice I have bought stuff from them which I have had to warranty (Hazet support obliged and replaced them FOC), while everything else Hazet I have bought from a local dealer or small German eshops has been flawless, both in function and cosmetically.