Tools from the old world

[north]

Man, those Netsuren and Aigo wrenches looks like they are made by the dark side of the force. Very beautiful in a rugged kind of way.

 

[superautobacs]

How are those Gedore wrench?
I have a full pouch.

You posted your Gray tools in another thread, so I'm assuming your in Canada. With that in mind, your Gedore set is proabably the made-in-India variants?

Man, those Netsuren and Aigo wrenches looks like they are made by the dark side of the force. Very beautiful in a rugged kind of way.

Wecome back to this thread BOV.
and I agree.

 

[blaze_125]

You posted your Gray tools in another thread, so I'm assuming your in Canada. With that in mind, your Gedore set is proabably the made-in-India variants?

Don't quote me, but I beleive they were German built.

I also found some Korean made tools in my box
I guess I should start taking pictures

 

[Moose-LandTran]

I want some Soviet tools.

Soviet history is fascinating, i love reading about their techonolgy and such, a unique way of doing things for sure.

 

[sstetsen]

Do you have any tools from Russia, Kazakhstan or Ukraine or other former countries of the soviet union ?

Yes, of course, many ones...

Do you know, for example, that USSR manufactured special, small-sized tools especially for children? Not those plastic toys imitating hammers or pliers but REAL small hammers, pliers etc of high quality? No, children didn't have to work with these tools , they just could recognize what were tools for and could be attracted to some useful professions in future.

My father gave me a small tool set as a gift for my 10th birthday (now I'm 50), and some tools from it I have been using up to now. Such tool sets were in wooden boxes like those on pictures below. On the green box you can see a happy Pinocchio ("Buratino" in Russian) with a saw, three letters "ЧИЗ" of Cheliabinsk Tool Factory and the lettering "Young metalworker" (in Russian).

It could be interesting that the box had the same price for many, many years - 19 soviet roubles (you can see that price directly on the box). All prices for tools were fixed by USSR governmant. Just to have a basis to compare: my father that time got 200 roubles per month. The blue anvil also has the "very solid" mark with the price.

Anvils, pliers, hammers are from those tool boxes. For 40 years already...

P.S.: A car key on the pictures is just to show sizes.

 

[TjoFrasse]

yeah they look nice with the reinforced jaw design etc.... I only know the DIN3110 wrenches in plated and the DIN895 wrenches in black oxide finish. However sometimes you´ll find plated DIN895 wrenches in car kits.

Some more DIN 895 wrenches for you

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7566/llll006.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3650/llll009.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1058/llll010.jpg

Precisely! They are really ornate and i think the black oxide finish ages gracefully. Those you posted look great except from the red marking (which i assume are owner marks, not original).

I have some old Japanese wrenches from Asahi and Netsuren that mimic the DIN895 design.

They look like these (pics from the net):

These single open-end wrenches have the JIS B 4630 designation.

http://www.kougu-damashii.jp/data/nikkotool/product/netsuren/netsuren-kspa.jpg
http://www.kougu-damashii.jp/data/nikkotool/product/netsuren/CIMG9945.JPG

The ones from Asahi are labeled "ASH". They claim this design is 1.5 times stronger than standard open-ends.:

http://www.haikanbuhin.com/file/itemindex_i_img/itemindex_i_2042.jpg

Here's an example made by AIGO :

http://www.aigokogyo.co.jp/products/open_end_wrenches/img_b/b_spanner_oe.jpg

EDIT: Here's most of my small collection of DIN895 type wrenches that I've posted here, along with some other ones, and minus the Japanese ones. Thread

Wow, thanks for those pictures! They look great. Your collection is nice also!

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Sstetsen, you sir are awesome. :thumbup

Soviet history is awesome.

 

[blaze_125]

With that in mind, your Gedore set is proabably the made-in-India variants?

Looks like you were right.

 

[Monte]

hmmm nice japanese wrenches

I guess I should start taking pictures

yes
it´s high time... .... Especially of the korean tools... only saw 1 korean tool here....

I want some Soviet tools.

me too. At least some pictures




Thanks for the pics and the explanation !!! Please post some more if you have !
hey the tool factory still exist
Cheliabinsk Tool-making Plant
Sverdlovsky trakt, 38
Chelyabinsk, Chelyabinsk Region 454008
Russian Federation

Precisely! They are really ornate and i think the black oxide finish ages gracefully. Those you posted look great except from the red marking (which i assume are owner marks, not original).

exactly !
Painted tools are often seen here to denote which tool belongs in which tool box, the owner is the employer anyway. I like the painted wrenches somehow, somewhere here and also in a japanese tool magazine i saw snap-on wrenches where the inscription was filled with red paint and i think Elroy used yellow paint (?). I liked it.





some taiwanese tools from my collection:

"Westfalia" puller set

Astro Pneumatic #7866 Upper Control Arm Bushing Service Set

Astro Pneumatic #7865 Ball Joint Service Tool

 

[Monte]

Some nice pics of the new Ko-Ken "Z-eal" tools:
http://www.abit-tools.com/mon_sale2010_page/Ko_zealXX_sale_a.html

T-handle spinner/extension thing:
http://www.abit-tools.com/Koken_Spage/Ko_sale_total.html

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Some more DIN 895 wrenches for you

I love those DIN pattern wrenches. They just look so functional and the jaw design is beautifully crafted. I need to get me a full set of them. Any reccomendations?

I have some old Japanese wrenches from
Asahi

Damn those look good!

 

[Monte]

Maybe you can find some of the japanese wrenches in the UK , Gedore offers them , Elora too.

need[/I] to get me a full set of them.

sizes up to 80 mm

 

[Moose-LandTran]

I think Elora. I do love me some Elora tools.

I think separate sets for single open end and single ring end.

 

[Monte]

I think Elora. I do love me some Elora tools.

I think separate sets for single open end and single ring end.

Only individual sizes or all ? That´s gonna be expensive....
For which kind of work do you think a single open end/box wrench is better ?




"Bergin" brand electric drill made (?) by "Bergin Vliesena Werke".
Looks new, 1.- € from Ebay

 

[superautobacs]

A nice little KTC combination plier. Model # PJ-150A (without rubber grips).
It's only 150mm, so it fits well in the palm for ease of operation. No-pinch design.

Here's the "3 Peaks" locking screw pliers. Model # DS-130

When you open and flip the product card, this is what you see:

Asahi Tools 3mm, long ball-point hex key with "catcher ball":

Taken under flash, I think the steel resembles the PB Swiss hex keys. In fact, these are soft just like the PB's too. The softness acts like a feeling gauge for final hand tightening.

WISE "pierce-ball" hex wrenches. The unique thing about these is the 15* offset positioning of the hex. This equates to a 30* operating range as opposed to a 60* range found in conventional hex keys. The bottom of the ball-point is ground flat, more so than the Asahi shown above.

 

[north]

A nice little KTC combination plier. Model # PJ-150A (without rubber grips).
It's only 150mm, so it fits well in the palm for ease of operation. No-pinch design. *snip*

Another nice tool from the Darth Vader collection. Wouldn't mind a couple of those.

 

[dede2897234]

A nice little KTC combination plier. Model # PJ-150A (without rubber grips).
It's only 150mm, so it fits well in the palm for ease of operation. No-pinch design.

Here's the "3 Peaks" locking screw pliers. Model # DS-130

When you open and flip the product card, this is what you see:

Asahi Tools 3mm, long ball-point hex key with "catcher ball":

Taken under flash, I think the steel resembles the PB Swiss hex keys. In fact, these are soft just like the PB's too. The softness acts like a feeling gauge for final hand tightening.

WISE "pierce-ball" hex wrenches. The unique thing about these is the 15* offset positioning of the hex. This equates to a 30* operating range as opposed to a 60* range found in conventional hex keys. The bottom of the ball-point is ground flat, more so than the Asahi shown above.

Superautobacs,

Very nice tools! I like the 3 Peaks locking screw pliers and the WISE hex wrenches.

Disregarding the locking feature of the 3 Peaks pliers, do the teeth provide a better bite on a damaged fastener than any of the Engineer screw pliers?

Do the WISE hex wrenches have a lower profile than the "L" end of a conventional hex key wrench?

Which online Japan-based vendor did you use to purchase the above tools? Can you please provide the link to their website?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[Moose-LandTran]

WISE "pierce-ball" hex wrenches. The unique thing about these is the 15* offset positioning of the hex. This equates to a 30* operating range as opposed to a 60* range found in conventional hex keys. The bottom of the ball-point is ground flat, more so than the Asahi shown above.

Where did you get these? I could really use a set of those.

 

[dede2897234]

Where did you get these? I could really use a set of those.

Moose-LandTran,

Which automotive repair situations would you find the WISE hex wrenches to be of great use and speed up the job?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[Monte]

wow nice stuff superautobacs !!!!
I like the design of the pliers handles ! The Wise hex keys are pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are the Wise wrenches forged ? Can the hex part be exchanged ?


But please don´t do this !!!!

the Wise keys with removable part look interesting too. "slugging hey keys" ?

http://www.niigata-honmono.jp/wise/new3.html

interesting holder

@dave: i guess he bought them here http://www.webike.net/sd/2091303/

 

[Cantause]

Asahi Tools 3mm, long ball-point hex key with "catcher ball":

Taken under flash, I think the steel resembles the PB Swiss hex keys. In fact, these are soft just like the PB's too. The softness acts like a feeling gauge for final hand tightening.

Nice hex key set!

I've always been curious about these "catcher ball" keys, do they really work? I mean, is the allen screw sticked on the key or is it just an "help" in difficult situations? If it works well I might be tempted in buying a set

Thanks!

 

[Monte]

Does somebody have one or more of the following Snap-On pliers ? (and a real pic or 2...)

 

[AlexRS]

@superautobacs: That plier look really good

Nice hex key set!

I've always been curious about these "catcher ball" keys, do they really work? I mean, is the allen screw sticked on the key or is it just an "help" in difficult situations? If it works well I might be tempted in buying a set

Thanks!

I'd like more info about this too ^^

 

[Bhae]

Monte, you know German companies that sell tools for mechanics? similar to bgstechnic, sw stahl...

 

[Bolster]

I want some Soviet tools.

Soviet history is fascinating, i love reading about their techonolgy and such, a unique way of doing things for sure.

In Decadent West, You Turn Wrench.

In Mother Russia, Wrench Turn YOU!

 

[superautobacs]

Superautobacs,

Very nice tools! I like the 3 Peaks locking screw pliers and the WISE hex wrenches.

Disregarding the locking feature of the 3 Peaks pliers, do the teeth provide a better bite on a damaged fastener than any of the Engineer screw pliers?

IMO, I think the stepped jaw profile is better. Did you see their re-designed screw pliers? Check this post for pictures

Do the WISE hex wrenches have a lower profile than the "L" end of a conventional hex key wrench?

Quite obviously it's not as low profile as the slim Anex ones (you know the ones I'm talking about), but it's slightly shorter than a conventional L-type hex key (sorry, I don't have the tools in front of me to take comparison photos). Most stubby L-type hex keys are probably similar to the "Pierceball".

Which online Japan-based vendor did you use to purchase the above tools? Can you please provide the link to their website?

Monte has already provided a link. It's been previously discussed here, a few pages before. Although there's an English component to their web shopping, it doesn't include the hand tool's section, unfortunately.

Thanks,

Dave

wow nice stuff superautobacs !!!!
I like the design of the pliers handles ! The Wise hex keys are pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are the Wise wrenches forged ? Can the hex part be exchanged ?

AFAIK, the hex parts have no part #'s on their own. The beams are not finished that well (rough cut; not much machining), but I don't really mind it as they are painted/coated in black. They have heft to them and make some nice sounds when they clang to eachother.


But please don´t do this !!!!

Why not? I don't like my PB gold-plated screwdrivers. A nice way to scrape off some that stuff.


the Wise keys with removable part look interesting too. "slugging hey keys" ?

Yeah, I got one of those holders too just out of curiosity.

Nice hex key set!

I've always been curious about these "catcher ball" keys, do they really work? I mean, is the allen screw sticked on the key or is it just an "help" in difficult situations? If it works well I might be tempted in buying a set

Thanks!

It's a first time for me and I just wanted to purchase one to see how well it may work....or not. I'll report back when I find out. I got the 3mm for two reasons: cheapest ... and I figured the feature would be most beneficial with the smallest sizes where the screws are small to handle.

Does somebody have one or more of the following Snap-On pliers ? (and a real pic or 2...)

Looks like Knipex.

 

[american lockpicker]

Its been a while since I've posted in here(been distracted with non tool old world purchases...) Anyways I picked up this interesting tape measure at a flea market today for $2.

 

[Monte]

Monte, you know German companies that sell tools for mechanics? similar to bgstechnic, sw stahl...

The only other ones i know are KS-Tools, Condor, HM-Müllner (only a few), Müller. Famex has a couple of mechanics tools too. "Nironex" is another of the newcomer brands, don´t have a homepage (?), but mostly regular hand tools.

Looks like Knipex.

they are.... Looking for real pictures for my photo collection of old world tools in new world package

ps: show me a pic of your PB screwdriver with gold blade and locking pliers attached ...
psps: thx for the explanation of the Wise hex keys. I think i have to order from Webike one day.... How do you pay there ? CC ? paypal ? bank transfer ?


@american lockpicker:
nice old BMI X4 tape measure !
Didn´t change much in 20 years

btw:
Asahi has hex keys with metal ball holder too.

I have a "Garant" brand version, it works perfectly, however if you fully tilt the wrench to the opposite direction where the ball is, it is possible that the screw pops out.
Wiha "MagicRing" or Bondhus would be another option. (has anybody experience with them ?? How long does the plastic holder from Bondhus last ?)

ps:
the new corded "Bosch GOP 250 CE" Multimaster clone. Available in october (In germany ).

The new Rennsteig "Exklusiv" pin punches:

-high-alloyed chrome vanadium steel
-hardness ≥ 59 HRC
-tempered striking head
-chrome-plated body, plastic powder coated

and new website: www.rennsteig.com

 

[impulse922]

gold pb

 

[Jeff]

 

[Vinko]

^ I didn't know Hoffritz was still around. How old is that?

 

[Bhae]

Thanks Monte.

 

[alberto]

[/QUOTE]
what the heck is that? Looks like it could be very painful if used incorrectly (!)

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Looks like a letter opener.

 

[dede2897234]

the Wise keys with removable part look interesting too. "slugging hey keys" ?

http://www.niigata-honmono.jp/wise/new3.html

interesting holder

Superautobacs,

Would you mind taking pictures of the WISE hex key holder and demonstrating its advantages during use?

I am not sure on the hex key holder's benefits.


Thanks,

Dave

 

[dede2897234]

I received a couple days ago a Hit Tools, 14" long, 1/4" capacity, high tensile, bolt cutter. I purchased it from HardwareSales.com (type in the search box "Hit bolt cutter"). The company is located in the state of Washington. The cost of the bolt cutter is $49.99(includes free FedEx ground shipping). HardwareSales.com also sells the 12" and 24" models.

I believe all products from Hit Tools are made in Japan. Here is a link to the product description of the high tensile bolt cutters on the Hit Tools' website:

http://www.hittools.com/catalog/itemlist.asp?catid=33&parentid=3.

I own a Knipex 8" mini bolt cutter. I wanted the 14" Hit Tools bolt cutter to provide more leverage with the longer handles during use.

Thanks to Monte for providing information about Hit Tools in a previous thread.


Dave

 

[Monte]

@impulse922:
hmmmm nice !!! I think they have these in the tool boxes in Fort Knox


@Bhae:
You´re welcome !


@Dave:
nice bolt cutter(s) !
ps: HIT bolt cutters are also available branded as "Gedore"

My favourite small size bolt cutter (39 cm) from VBW (don´t own it yet ,i like the design... )

 

[Gmonkee]

My Wurth (Facom) ratchets. They both have about 3 years of hard labor in a diesel shop and the last 2 years in automotive. Neither one has needed much but a good clean and grease about every 6 months to keep them smooth.

Diesel fuel ate the rubber off the handles in the first year. Other than that they are bulletproof.

 

[Bhae]

New line of kstools pliers:

¿Made by NWS?

 

[The Muffin Man]

New line of kstools pliers:

¿Made by NWS?

Looks similar to NWS's "Electro Power" side cutters