Tools from the old world

[Monte]

"Soldering Grease," is that the correct UK English term for what I know in American English as "soldering flux"?

i guess yes





Helios Preisser square DIN 875/1

 

[DAustin]

Recently acquired a few common sizes of Beta 42 combo & 90 double deep offset wrenches. Website says the 42 is still made in Italy and the 90 looks like an older style forging so...?

I think the 90 box-end wrench is from China.

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I bought a half-moon wrench same style, and it was listed as Italy, so who knows.

 

[Dave455]

"Soldering Grease," is that the correct UK English term for what I know in American English as "soldering flux"?

The correct English term would usually be simply “Flux” or sometimes “Soldering Paste”. The term “Soldering Flux” isn’t wrong. Never heard “Soldering Grease”.

Be careful with traditional British flux - it can turn you orange…

 

[dukefx]

I thought they were the same, but after seeing Dave's paste... turns out all 3 are quite different. By definition:

Flux (acid) is for cleaning
Grease (usually some petroleum jelly) is for lubrication (better flow), heavy duty applications and large areas in general
Paste contains solder particles and flux (for smaller stuff)

The stuff my father uses for gutters contains both flux and grease hence the confusion.

 

[dutchgray]

Thanks you very much for your time to give me all these information. One more question... I found the below where if I am correct measures from 0-1000(red scale) & 0-10000(black scale). From the picture do you think that is in a decent condition and it is worthy to buy it or I have to wait to find something even better looking?

That one looks OK, you are correct on its ranges, depends on the price really, I assume your buying one to use not as a collector.

 

[Monte]

Westmark kitchen tools

 

[four.cycle]

^ thanks for the link on that, Monte.
I finally got all of the "tool" files transferred into a folder I can work in now. (Been almost 3 months now dealing with computer issues.)
I still have about a dozen folders full of unidentified/unsorted can opener, jar opener, lid lifter, and corkscrew files that I need to sort through and archive. Yes, the peelers inevitably find their way into that mix as well, thanks to Vaughn Novelty Company and the Edward Katzinger Corporation (aka "EKCO").

I have to draw the line at knives, though - it gets way too nutty.

Do you know if they were ever issued a patent on that Famos sparschaler? (definitely looks interesting.)

 

[Monte]

Do you know if they were ever issued a patent on that Famos sparschaler? (definitely looks interesting.)

Here is the patent:

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Here is an article on wiki: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparschäler






used noname locking pliers from ebay:

 

[four.cycle]

^ I need to figure out a way to get one to Tacoma cheap. Looks like a well-engineered unit. Of all those I've used, I still think that my old "knee-action" EKCO (patent 2232940) beats all of them.

 

[KnurledNut]

Bedford-Vanadium British Standard wrench set. 0-10BA. Made in England.

 

[Dave455]

Bedford-Vanadium British Standard wrench set. 0-10BA. Made in England.

Very nice!

Bedford did those small wrenches exceptionally well, especially the smaller sizes.

My Dad had an identical set, which I still have, but the wallet has long since worn out.

 

[KnurledNut]

Very nice!

Bedford did those small wrenches exceptionally well, especially the smaller sizes.

My Dad had an identical set, which I still have, but the wallet has long since worn out.

The pictures certainly dont do justice. I was quite surprised at the level of finishing, like you said especially the small ones. The dimensions are favorable of a robust wrench. Nice little compact set.
The snap on the wallet says England too.

 

[Monte]

^ I need to figure out a way to get one to Tacoma cheap. Looks like a well-engineered unit. Of all those I've used, I still think that my old "knee-action" EKCO (patent 2232940) beats all of them.

Available from Amazon.com

Amazon.com : westmark peeler

Möbius + Ruppert "Granate" brass pencil sharpener

 

[bpwoodworking]

Any thoughts on Leinen vises? Thinking about buying one, but considering a older starrett.

 

[F-22]

Any thoughts on Leinen vises? Thinking about buying one, but considering a older starrett.

They are good quality but a very different design to classic US vises. Typically very fixed and more compact. Depends on what you will use it for.

If you're in the US and planning to import a German vise, maybe also consider the Heuer? Those are very well thought out and very resistant for the most general use (drop forged steel instead of a casting is far superior as a general purpose vise in my opinion).

 

[bpwoodworking]

Mainly need something for filing on parts, though I’m sure I’ll be using it to press in small bearings on occasion.

Need something better for working on gun parts than my woodworking vises.

Compact is a huge positive in my shop, I have pretty limited space.

Planing to mount this on my woodworking bench in a way that it can be easily removed.

So with that said, I’m leaning toward something in the size and weight range of the 125

 

[F-22]

Leinen may be a good choice then, these style of vises are called the "locksmith" vise in many languages including German (though the same word also means metalworker in German).

Still would continue to recommend the heuer. It's slide can be tightened to take out all slop, which is not a common feature with otheer vises. So they can be quite precise. Also quite "thin" all around so they leave more space around what you're gripping, which is nice for filing.

 

[bpwoodworking]

Much appreciated! I’ll kick it around for a bit, been looking at these two and Gressel. The big plus to Gressel is that they can be had in the US without the huge shipping cost.

 

[rizla01]

Ah thanks, i did search c series spanners etc, but google just returned lots of images of C-spanners.. (the aformentioned uselessness of search engines in 2023 i guess...)

I did have an idea that they may have been aimed at mechanics, maybe to compete with the likes of snap on, what with the with the nicely finished polished chrome but wasnt sure if i was wildly off the mark.. guess not.

Shame they werent more common as it is really nicely finished, was somewhat neglected when i got it (with a bunch of more normal britool wrenches) but as can be seen polished up nicely, but yeah its the only one i have ever seen, and looks like assembling a set would be a futile task...

NOT futile now tho.

I have just listed a set on Ebay and there are now pics of that set on this forum.
They are prob the best spanners I have ever seen.

 

[bpwoodworking]

Ended up buying a Gressel. Appreciate the comments from F-22 on the pros and cons of this type of vise.

I bought an old ground steel angle which ill
Mount this to for easy clamping in a woodworking vise. Waiting on that to arrive.

 

[maico]

Closest I'm going to get to a Stahlwille socket set

Stahlwille empty socket case.

Prime tools are clearing these on ebay.

Metal case and hinges. Plastic latch.





3/8 ratchet at the front for scale. Maybe sacrilege keeping Taiwan made tools in it.

I bought one of these clearance cases, I wish I'd bought more...

 

[neophyte]

Closest I'm going to get to a Stahlwille socket set

Stahlwille empty socket case.

Prime tools are clearing these on ebay.

Metal case and hinges. Plastic latch.





3/8 ratchet at the front for scale. Maybe sacrilege keeping Taiwan made tools in it.

Wasn’t there some german steel case manufacturer that made this style of cksmshell case?
Rothenberger, and I think Rems might have used the manufacturer, as did various regular tool manufacturers.
The cases came in at least a few sizes.
Unfortunately, Rothenberger has stopped using the cases, and switched to plastic cases.
I’m sort of wondering if production on the steel cases stopped.

 

[Snakevz]

Have to put down some overgrown trees, and just in time this semi automatic splitting machine was on sale

 

[upgrading]

Nice to see Fiskars still makes something in Finland

 

[Dave455]

Nice to see Fiskars still makes something in Finland

Wish they would still make something in the U.S.A.

I never really recovered from them buying Gerber.

 

[Monte]

Hornbach brush

 

[Beerhippie]

This arrived in the mail today, direct from W. Germany:



Candy....



Eye candy....

The box of drivers fits perfectly in my Snap-On-like topper beside the Ernst organizer (embarrassingly empty so far):



Coincidence?

I think not.

Not only are they purty, they actually fit my hands very well, won't roll away from where I put them and grip screw heads nicely!

These will remain hidden in the shop when I'm not using them. I have dozens of easy to find **** screw drivers others can use for what ever non-screw driver us they put them to.

 

[Spongebob89]

This arrived in the mail today, direct from W. Germany:



Candy....



Eye candy....

The box of drivers fits perfectly in my Snap-On-like topper beside the Ernst organizer (embarrassingly empty so far):



Coincidence?

I think not.

Not only are they purty, they actually fit my hands very well, won't roll away from where I put them and grip screw heads nicely!

These will remain hidden in the shop when I'm not using them. I have dozens of easy to find **** screw drivers others can use for what ever non-screw driver us they put them to.

Hello, do you know where can we find them for buying?

 

[Beerhippie]

Hello, do you know where can we find them for buying?

https://www.kctool.com/Heyco/

 

[oldpliers1]

Another day, another Autojumble. Newark (also in the Midlands UK). Posted pics from this one in the past. It's much larger than the Lincoln one yesterday.



Today's purchases were Frank Turton scissors and Gilbo snips both stamped 'Sheffield England.' Knipex 95 61 190 wire rope cutters. Channellock 3148-G pliers.





Edit. Opened up the Channellocks and wow they are heavy. Much thicker than what I am used to. Not a criticism, just an observation. First impressions are that they look and feel great. So happy to have a pair after reading about them so much here.

Comparison to Gedore 8" pliers.

 

[oldpliers1]

Hi Mr Lemons , you have a pair of channellock 3148-G pliers is their any chance I could see some more photos please , I have the first edition of the 3248 but this is the first time I have seen these . Thank you .

 

[oldpliers1]

something I picked up 45 years ago cheap but nice

 

[Beerhippie]

This Bernstein driver:



is what led me to purchase the set of Heycos above. Lately I notice it's my grab-it screwdriver for most #2 slotted work. Fits the hand well, well-made and hardened blade and it won't roll away. Doesn't hurt that it's in barely used condition.

How it got into my tool collection is anyone's guess.

 

[oldpliers1]

Here’s a mixed bag of stanley screwdrivers made in Australia ( stanley bought turner forge in 1970) stanley changed the handle profile in 83 and stopped production in 94 .

 

[oldpliers1]

Here is my electrical pouch ( daily driver ) from 1980 pre PH head screws with a 2BA nut driver and junior hacksaw as daily essentials, crescent 3800 -8T lineman’s pliers a few Stanley , Bahco and Sidchrome items cost of pouch and contents around $225 in 1980 with take home pay of $112 for a second year apprentice on a high rise city construction site . I have the rest of the contents which seem very outdated in todays world I can put them up .regards from Australia

 

[oldpliers1]

I found this today it’s a world war 2 Sunshine Massey Harris department of defence 7 inch wrench made for WW2 it was dumped on the sidewalk with some other tools . These were made in Melbourne Australia.

 

[oldpliers1]

The black handle pair are from the 50s and the yellow handle pair early 60s ( they changed to yellow in circa 1960 ) The black handles were issued late 1940s previously they were rubber and the American war grade handles common to many companies during the war effort

 

[oldpliers1]

American war grade handles shared between manufacturers , they are quite common to find. Klein , Utica ,Crescent and other firms shared them , early plastics technology a by product of the war effort.

 

[SC Fly Guy]

American war grade handles shared between manufacturers , they are quite common to find. Klein , Utica ,Crescent and other firms shared them , early plastics technology a by product of the war effort.

Love those pliers. I live very near Jamestown in the summer and I find lots of Crescent tools. But … I have NEVER seen a pouch in the wild. Very nice.

 

[oldpliers1]

Love those pliers. I live very near Jamestown in the summer and I find lots of Crescent tools. But … I have NEVER seen a pouch in the wild. Very nice.

I have a few spares and some Crescent stickers and other bits and bobs contact me cheers