Tools from the old world

[Monte]

@AlexRS:
nice pliers !!!!!!!!!!!!


@superautobacs:
When do you plan your next honeymoon trip through europe ??
Somebody has to check all these Facom locations.....


@Moose:
The Matador store called today... I think i can pick up the tool on monday or tuesday

 

[AlexRS]

Somebody has to check all these Facom locations.....

Garage Journal European Road Trip? Now who between us has the most fuel efficient car...

 

[Moose-LandTran]

@Moose:
The Matador store called today... I think i can pick up the tool on monday or tuesday

Thanks, Monte!

I think i may have to find you a nice 13mm combination wrench for your collection to say thank you.

 

[Monte]

Garage Journal European Road Trip? Now who between us has the most fuel efficient car...

i have a bicycle !

Thanks, Monte!

I think i may have to find you a nice 13mm combination wrench for your collection to say thank you.

Don´t be too hasty ! Maybe i keep the tools for me !

 

[AlexRS]

i have a bicycle !

That would take some time

BTW how's your Monte Carlo coming along? (I think Its you who's bulding one, I may be wrong)

Back to tool talk, do you know of any European online store apart from amazon with Hazet, Gedore, Stahlwille and others with the option of English, French or Spanish (I don't speak German)

 

[american lockpicker]

Speaking of bicycles is Moof any good? Also is it still made in Amsterdam?

 

[dlfiene]

Here is a vintage pair of Hazet 1841-2 needle nose pliers.
I will have some more pictures of some new old stock Hazet pliers once they arrive.

 

[Monte]

That would take some time

BTW how's your Monte Carlo coming along? (I think Its you who's bulding one, I may be wrong)

Back to tool talk, do you know of any European online store apart from amazon with Hazet, Gedore, Stahlwille and others with the option of English, French or Spanish (I don't speak German)

yes it´s a Monte Carlo Currently it looks like this. I work on this car right now so there is no time for mine.

Stahlwille + Gedore are available here www.primetools.co.uk and here www.tooltrolley.co.uk and Gedore here www.bolas.pt - stahlwille here www.auto-tools.co.uk and www.pvrdirect.co.uk and here http://lusaveiro.pt - Hazet here http://www.apprenticezone.co.uk/the-tool-store.html and here
http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/w..._to_display=brandsearch&brand=hazet&amount=73 or here www.sdr.pt

Speaking of bicycles is Moof any good? Also is it still made in Amsterdam?

never heard of them ?

Here is a vintage pair of Hazet 1841-2 needle nose pliers.
I will have some more pictures of some new old stock Hazet pliers once they arrive.

very good looking pliers !!!






Hazet "B-25" wrench i found at the flea market. Does somebody know what is it for ?

 

[american lockpicker]

http://www.vanmoof.com/

 

[AlexRS]

@Monte: The Monte Carlo is looking good and so is the Cadillac you're working on, now hurry up and finish the Monte Carlo


Many thanks for the links, what's funny is that you found some on my country when I kill myself looking everywhere, and you even found one 10 minutes from my house (SDR) and another half an hour away you're the man


Don't know what the Hazet B-25 wrench is used for but looks good, looks like something specific to work on some kind of machine.



@american lockpicker: never heard of Moof before but been on the website and they look good

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Don´t be too hasty ! Maybe i keep the tools for me !

Today i have a nice Stahliwlle 13mm Series 13 wrench. The finish is sooooo nice. And an Elora 1/4"-drive 5.5mm deep socket, with a really nice completely satin finish.

 

[Rudeboy 1]

Hands down, best thread on the entire internet.


I use these daily. (electrician, yes)

 

[Monte]

http://www.vanmoof.com/

no clue, never saw them here.... try www.kettler-bike.de
original bikes from Holland: www.gazelle.nl www.batavus.com www.sparta.nl

@Monte: The Monte Carlo is looking good and so is the Cadillac you're working on, now hurry up and finish the Monte Carlo

ok boss !

Many thanks for the links, what's funny is that you found some on my country when I kill myself looking everywhere, and you even found one 10 minutes from my house (SDR) and another half an hour away you're the man

no problem Take some pics if you should visit them

Don't know what the Hazet B-25 wrench is used for but looks good, looks like something specific to work on some kind of machine.

Now i´ve to find and buy the matching machine/car for the wrench

Today i have a nice Stahliwlle 13mm Series 13 wrench. The finish is sooooo nice. And an Elora 1/4"-drive 5.5mm deep socket, with a really nice completely satin finish.

just kidding !!!!!!!!!!! Don´t worry
nice wille wrench !!

Hands down, best thread on the entire internet.


I use these daily. (electrician, yes)

nice belt !!!
What brand is the red/black Wera screwdriver ??? Apex ? Format?







old Wera screwdriver

looks like the complete blade is ground so i think the blade might be forged too (?) instead of just the tip ?

 

[superautobacs]

@superautobacs:
When do you plan your next honeymoon trip through europe ??
Somebody has to check all these Facom locations.....

Next trip will be to Japan! I want to go see the KTC museum and all the cool shops!


That black/red Wera screwdriver is something that you probably don't have yet in your collection, I assume? .....I do believe it's a Apex rebranded one....saw it on Ebay some time ago.


Is that the first gen. plastic Wera handle? I once saw that at my local pawn shop and I regretted not getting it. That's one beefy screwdriver....looks more like a mini pry bar.

 

[AlexRS]

no problem Take some pics if you should visit them

I'll take some

Now i´ve to find and buy the matching machine/car for the wrench

And what machine would that be? For the machine/car comment I assume it's part of a tool kit for a German car manufacturer on the same subject my daily driver uses a Heyco wheel nut wrench http://www.heyco.de and Bilstein jack will post pics when I take some.

old Wera screwdriver

That looks like it went through hell and back love the old Wera hard handles

 

[Monte]

Next trip will be to Japan! I want to go see the KTC museum and all the cool shops!

cool ! even bettter !! Where do you go ?? Hopefully there is a "Factory gear" store

That black/red Wera screwdriver is something that you probably don't have yet in your collection, I assume? .....I do believe it's a Apex rebranded one....saw it on Ebay some time ago.

i only have the "Format version, Apex not (yet )

Is that the first gen. plastic Wera handle? I once saw that at my local pawn shop and I regretted not getting it. That's one beefy screwdriver....looks more like a mini pry bar.

yes i think ?!? glossy handle , not texturized, looks like older production.
Probably also was used as a pry bar because of the parallel broken tip. Luckily slotted tips can be reground

I'll take some

cool

And what machine would that be? For the machine/car comment I assume it's part of a tool kit for a German car manufacturer on the same subject my daily driver uses a Heyco wheel nut wrench http://www.heyco.de and Bilstein jack will post pics when I take some.

i dunno...something for cars i guess.....engine ???
i have a Bilstein jack too. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1079964&highlight=bilstein#post1079964
yours probably look different !

That looks like it went through hell and back love the old Wera hard handles

yes ...unfortunately the tip is broken .... hopefully i can find some NOS ones some day

 

[MogeraCND]

>SuperAutobacs:
Since you're planning to go Japan so... I don't know if you want to check this site out: EHIME MACHINE They mostly handle KTC and limit selection of other Japanese tools... They offer best price within Japan.
If you go to DIY・HC stores, might disappoint or fascinate you...

Anyway...
it really ***** that AIGO went under i just hope that they won't be bought out by China and send the factory to mainland china...
It was different story for "TOUGH" brand by Dia-Seiko・ダイヤ精工。 They just seized production of their own brand tools few years ago... They are still in business manufacturing...
I wasn't impressed by their quality of tools. They conform JIS standard but durability was issue... after using double box end wreches, for 2 years i can notice the wear/rounding.

 

[Jeff]

My latest acquisitions:

 

[pep]

Say, is there any way to get a full set of Wiha 'Power Handle' (or similar) screwdrivers like those blue ones? I've got a single orange hard handle Wiha with a bolster, so they obviously used to build those.

 

[Jeff]

Say, is there any way to get a full set of Wiha 'Power Handle' (or similar) screwdrivers like those blue ones? I've got a single orange hard handle Wiha with a bolster, so they obviously used to build those.

40 pcs....in all its glory!

 

[pep]

40 pcs....in all its glory!

That's not really what I meant. Those are soft handled.

If I can track down my camera, I'll take a pic of the one I've got.

Hang on, here's the handles I mean:

http://www.wihatools.com/300seri/362serie.htm

 

[Jeff]

That's not really what I meant. Those are soft handled.

If I can track down my camera, I'll take a pic of the one I've got.

Hang on, here's the handles I mean:

http://www.wihatools.com/300seri/362serie.htm

Those stubbies you mentioned are in that kit.

 

[Jeff]

This page shows the different Wiha handles available on their drivers.

 

[tonydanzah]

what is that beta tool used for?

 

[pep]

I've got one that isn't there.

I expect that these are relabeled Wihas...

http://www.crawfordtools.com/craw_screwdrivers.html

 

[pep]

what is that beta tool used for?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001ODN6O4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Cheap cheap.

Ear cleaners? Vibraphone mallets?

 

[spv]

Stahlwille deep offset ring spanner in action. Next, Nepros in action...

 

[Jeff]

what is that beta tool used for?

Scraping and Reaming.

 

[61pv544]

Hazet "B-25" wrench i found at the flea market. Does somebody know what is it for ?

That wrench looks just like the no-name wrenches we use when changing the co2 cylinders on beer and post-mix soda systems. Ours are real cheap, and we just leave them hanging on the co2 line, so they're always there where we need them.

 

[Monte]

@sharkin:
nice tools !!!! Never saw a "Paladin"-Wera ! cool !
Again nice stuff from Beta ! I like the chisel !! and only $3.05

@ pep:
either the Crawford version in red , or there is also a blue version rebranded as "Promat" in germany:

available in slotted, ph + pz in regluar and stubby version

@spv: some more Nepros pics please

@61pv544:
hmm a beer dispenser for home... that would be cool

 

[superautobacs]

cool ! even bettter !! Where do you go ?? Hopefully there is a "Factory gear" store



i only have the "Format version, Apex not (yet )

yes i think ?!? glossy handle , not texturized, looks like older production.
Probably also was used as a pry bar because of the parallel broken tip. Luckily slotted tips can be reground

Yeah, I'd definitely hit up one of the many Factory Gear stores.

Ahhh, the Format version.

Yeah, I'd say you grind/file that down to make a nice narrrow-point prybar.

>SuperAutobacs:
Since you're planning to go Japan so... I don't know if you want to check this site out: EHIME MACHINE They mostly handle KTC and limit selection of other Japanese tools... They offer best price within Japan.
If you go to DIY・HC stores, might disappoint or fascinate you...

Anyway...
it really ***** that AIGO went under i just hope that they won't be bought out by China and send the factory to mainland china...
It was different story for "TOUGH" brand by Dia-Seiko・ダイヤ精工。 They just seized production of their own brand
tools few years ago... They are still in business manufacturing...
I wasn't impressed by their quality of tools. They conform JIS standard but durability was issue... after using double box end wreches, for 2 years i can notice the wear/rounding.

There's a lot of tool stores to visit in Japan, some easily accessible with public transportation; some not. I've found that there's no definitive online shop that always has the lowest price. The sales and prices vary quite a bit. When there's a lot of outlets to choose from, it takes time finding the best deal.....unless you're just shopping for a couple things.

There's also these online stores (there's a handful more out there too):
i-tools
webike
Kobe no kouguya
Factory Gear
OTC
Hara Tool
WIT


Yeah, I do hope the factory gets bought up by a Japanese firm. It'be a shame if it went off shore.

Thanks for sharing info about your Tough brand tools. Pics? I've only seen them in Japanese blogs, and quality of the pictures isn't great. Is your wear issue a cosmetic issue (chrome peeling?)

[edit] i realize now that you said your Tough wrenches are seeing rounding. still interested in pics though.

 

[TjoFrasse]

My latest acquisitions:

Nice!

Stahlwille deep offset ring spanner in action. Next, Nepros in action...

Nice Stahlwille! And cool six point box end!

My package from Wuppertools.de arrived

Bought some drivers at the Bahco outlet stuff this summer, but some sizes was missing. So got some to make the sets complete. These were Bahco branded though and not Belzer, so they won't match completely.

Wera awls.

Knipex side cutter, small and bigger.

Kniped round nose plier and flat nose. I ordered the flat nose as regular, but got the VDE… A bit odd but i'm not going to complain.

Knipex 45-degree needle nose.

 

[MogeraCND]

Here's one of TOUGH's short/stubby 45° degree offset 12x14mm... they were replace by semi-complete KTC stubby set...

 

[MogeraCND]

ok ****!!!
clicked the wrong button...
i included classic ***** "KINKI" screw driver... just can't beat that name...
I think they are out of business... haven't seen their products in eons...

 

[MogeraCND]

ohkay...
little drunk rightnow...

>SuperAutobacs:
Sorry i just answered/replied one of question.
At that time i cheaped out and bought the cheapest set of TOUGH wrenchs.
Mine are dull non polished chrome, Yes chrome is chipping/peeling... it's bit noticable with third picture.

I didn't know that 「神戸の工具屋KTC本店」 was in rakuten. I used to use their officail web site for KTC reference along side with KTC's website.
Most of the tool shops have online store in yahoo shopping, amazon, or/and rakuten...

I heard that Japanese tool market is control by 3 pillars...
Fixed/established price, Wholesale, and Dealer. to maintain steady(fixed) pricing.
For the KTC dealers, they cannot sell tools at lower than minimum quoted price set by KTC.

ok my brain's semi(barely) fuctioning right now...
good night and out

 

[rocketv]

Hi there guys,
Sorry to bring this old post back to life, but I'm trying to find some info on some old files I found in my late-father's toolbox, and two of them are marked just like these ones. There does not seem to be very much info easily found - in English anyway , so I'm hoping that someone can fill me in with some details.
I'll attmpt to attch some pics of mine to keep the tool **** action rolling

thanks in advance

rod

how bout it peoples? anybody got some info for me on these files or the st egidy fischer from ye old austria?

 

[Monte]

Yeah, I'd definitely hit up one of the many Factory Gear stores.

why not all ?

Ahhh, the Format version.

Yeah, I'd say you grind/file that down to make a nice narrrow-point prybar.

good idea !!!

My package from Wuppertools.de arrived

nice tools - again !!!!!!!!

Bought some drivers at the Bahco outlet stuff this summer, but some sizes was missing. So got some to make the sets complete. These were Bahco branded though and not Belzer, so they won't match completely.

c´mon just a few letters difference

Kniped round nose plier and flat nose. I ordered the flat nose as regular, but got the VDE… A bit odd but i'm not going to complain.

strange ?!?!??! But saved you some €€€

Here's one of TOUGH's short/stubby 45° degree offset 12x14mm... they were replace by semi-complete KTC stubby set...

What´s wrong with the wrench ? Don´t look that bad ?

how bout it peoples? anybody got some info for me on these files or the st egidy fischer from ye old austria?

Maybe "Chreese" knows something. He´s from Austria








some wrenches from the flea market:

"Guzman" (from Spain ??)

"Chrolidium-Reg" ???

Heyco #4020 21mm "VW-Ventilator" wrench

 

[Theloniousmonk]

Just wanted to post some pics of my 916SP... use it everyday and am quite happy. It is not as "smooth" as some I have (Proto Pro RH, Arm Maxx88, SK RH, Wright RH...) BUT is just as robust as anything and I feel more confident when yanking on it. The plastic/rubber handle has held up well over the last 6 months - I just wipe some PB blaster on it and it is clean (Looks horrible at the end of the day w/o cleaning).

 

[Monte]

nice !! Thanks for posting !!!!

 

[Vinko]

I know we've had a lot of hand tools posted lately. Since maybe some of you read this thread and not others (at least I don't see some of you post in other threads), would you mind posting photos or telling me what you've got if you have a German-made drill (cordless or wired).