Tools from the old world

[american lockpicker]

pics ??

Of course.

As you can see it was a while ago as it was back when you could get US made Bosch products.

 

[AutomatiquE]

@Monte : EUR 14,99 only ? Aldi is definetely the best "tool store" in the world

 

[american lockpicker]

@Monte : EUR 14,99 only ? Aldi is definetely the best "tool store" in the world

The tools they sell here at Aldi are definately not Old World.

 

[Olafur]

Thanks for the pics, perhaps you should buy more Magna bit drivers, I cannot find any on ebay. Collectors item soon?

@Dykmore : my brother have an American "Magna" set (1/4 bit holder driver + bits) in a plastic blue case. The driver is the same as your exepting a longer shaft. I always considered this brand, very solid handle, good quality.

All I could find on ebay was one seller in the UK offering plenty of Magna bits "made in usa". And few in the US offering few items mostly sets, probably old stock. One of them states: "MAGNA INDUSTRIAL is made by BOSCH MADE IN THE USA" (Item number:300560299959)

So BOSCH seems to have something to do with Magna. Found one set with this type of bit driver, presumably with Bosch bits.

Item number:110716671989

Dunno, this might be interesting deal to someone:

 

[american lockpicker]

Vermont American perhaps?

 

[Trucky]

Vermont American perhaps?

I do believe that's correct.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YXBT/ref=nosim/?tag=dansdeals08-20&linkCode=as1

Looks rather close.

 

[american lockpicker]

I used to have the old style one and VA is now owned by Bosch(wonder if thats why its not US made now...)

 

[Olafur]

Vermont American perhaps?

This is from Vermont American website, Company fact sheet:

1970—Acquires Magna Division for its position in the screwdriver bits market
[...]
1989—Vermont American is first manufacturer to apply ribbed-tip technology to power screwdriver bits; first manufacturer to offer Iso-Temp™ toughening process for screwdriving accessories that increases life up to six times by increasing fracture resistance of tips; merges with Emerson Electric Co. and Robert Bosch GmbH (Sears is a preferred stock holder until 1991)
[...]
2000—Robert Bosch GmbH completes acquisition of Vermont American
[...]
2003—Robert Bosch Tool Corporation created
[...]

US Headquarters:
Robert Bosch Tool Corporation
Accessories Business Unit

 

[Olafur]

never heard of Rocol, but thanks for the link, they even have dealers here

Nice Schröder you have there. Today I paid the same amount for wiha stubby bitdriver at local hardware store and I think I got off easy. Not the one with the bitholder in the handle, just regular one.

BTW: The Rocol stuff I use is not oil but grease and comes in a 500Gr can. I cannot find link on Rocol website for the can. I am not sure but I think the grease works better for drilling. And a can like that lasts for years for me.

I doubt I could find a single machinist over here that does not use this Rocol. I have often wondered about what is in this stuff, I have tried motor oil, ATF, regular grease, molly grease and these do not do much if you are drilling mild steel.

What brand do you use, I am pretty sure you got something similar.

 

[mrtools]

I bought these screwdrivers in Tesco sale (Monte, hi again ) for 3Eur... Although the package should contain 6 pieces, there were only four of them but it was the very last set there, so I didn't mind - for that price... Like all Stanley stuff, it looks like from the Old world, I thought it's from China, but at home I found some blah-blah about Made in USA with "global materials" on the back side...
And I bought this stubby bit driver too. It was little (the truth is: VERY) overpriced, but the thing I like from the first time is that any bit inside has absolute no play and the main reason for the buy is: IT'S TRANSPARENT!!!
I know that all the things I posted now are from the New world. I'm sorry but I like them so!

Good Stanley tools for a nice prices
Congratulations!

Wiha

Nice West Germany Wiha driver how old a driver?

Some recent flea-market finds (excl. Kamasa ratchets and sidecutters)
Handles for various project
Flex-head ratchets from Kamasa Tools. Theres not too much Kamasa on this thread.
E. A. Berg sidecutters are still in good condition. 1964 marking on these, dunno are those made back then.

Old tools collector?
Nice

my new knipex

Thanks!
Not sure I understood correctly but:
My planned use is for stuck fasteners. I make a groove with a small rotary tool (my Proxxon ) hammer this in and get torque with a wrench to the hex bolster.

Thanks

don´t know....Belzer is too old i think ... There was no internet when Belzer existed
if the package say spain maybe its spain , if not then its Argentinia i think. but maybe spain if the package say so You also could buy the Facom wrenches but where are they made ? Taiwan maybe ? France ? Italy ? dunno... So maybe i would buy Belzer....if you like them
over here i´ve seen them for 61€ but this includes 19% sales tax
http://www.werkzeugfachmarkt.de/oxi...uessel.-100M//anid/839442d44d2c8f426.12704350
in the Bahco online catalog i can´t find them , maybe they´re discontinued ? (or i am blind )
here the online catalog:
http://www.bahco.com/asp/form/index.asp?lngStructureID=1659&lngMenuID=1688
2 photos from an older Bahco catalog:
no, still belongs to my father
"Top Craft" ratcheting screwdriver made by Schröder in Germany.
bit holder can be attached to a power tool cord and holds 12 bits

Oo..I see
Thanks for your detail explanation, catalog link and advise about BELZER + A pics for your Bacho old catalog it very helpful
The catalog pics exactly a same model I see at a shop
BELZER (Germany/Argentina/Spain) vs FACOM (France/Italy/Taiwan) = I am agree with you, I go for BELZER
You are the best friend to asked about Old World Tools
Btw: Nice "Top Craft" ratcheting screwdriver and bits + a good pics
thank! again buddy

I took more pictures of my father's tools today evening, and here are some interesting ones:
1) Old punch, made by OPP ROKYCANY (Czechoslovakia).
2) Stanley Thrifty 400 flat screwdriver, made in England.
3) Side-cutting pliers, age unknown, made by unknown manufacturer, but they seem to be a very high quality product. There is some unreadable logo on one side (visible on the second photo).
4) And the old cable stripper, made by Gosmet Bydgoszcz (Poland,

Nice tools bro

As you can see it was a while ago as it was back when you could get US made Bosch products.

Awesome saw driver and bits
I spy your Leatherman what is the model? kick, Fuse or?

 

[mrtools]

My new tools..SunFlag torx screwdrivers, old stock and model for RM90 about 20 Euro
still expensive for me but I need this stuff

 

[Olafur]

Sweet sunflag drivers mrtools.
And thanks for your comments, always interesting to read your posts.

 

[PrecisionTools]

Here's a tool that I don't use very often but when I do its real handy...thread file. I'm assuming this company is long gone?

 

[Trucky]

Long gone? Very much so. At least it looks like they did quality work!

Interesting design as well. What are the ends for? At first glance, it appeared to be a tap, but it looks like it carries all the tooth sizes that the sides have. Maybe for an application where you don't have much room to work?

 

[PrecisionTools]

Long gone? Very much so. At least it looks like they did quality work!

Interesting design as well. What are the ends for? At first glance, it appeared to be a tap, but it looks like it carries all the tooth sizes that the sides have. Maybe for an application where you don't have much room to work?

The ends are the same pitch as the corresponding file face (you are correct on that one). I use them to check the pitch of the tread before I start hacking into it to make sure I dont damage the thread of the bolt, stud or whatever I'm trying to clean up.

 

[AutomatiquE]

@Precision tools : I've never heard for the brand "Fillon" Paris, but a short google search makes me think this brand still exists.

@mrtools : Congratulations, nice Sunglag purchase Interresting design, both handle and the oversized shaft diameter are quite unusual. I like the way this brand make their tools

 

[Jure]

can someone tell me how good are buco pullers? Thanks!

 

[Jure]

@Jure : Excellent Knipex circlip pliers, excellent choice...i've got the same set
For myself i'm plannig to buy two more extra pliers, those with a 90° head

yep i'm looking for them too

 

[AutomatiquE]

Jure, i don't have any Buco pulers but i'vre read many times they're good.

 

[kissmeimgerman]

Nice West Germany Wiha driver how old a driver?

Not sure to be honest, i found it in our work toolbox a few years ago. All the bits were broken(from previous employees).

 

[Jure]

Jure, i don't have any Buco pulers but i'vre read many times they're good.

my gf bought em,2 arm and 3 arm,2 arm seems to be good,but 3 arm looks pretty cheap,later i will post a pic

 

[AutomatiquE]

my gf bought em,2 arm and 3 arm,2 arm seems to be good,but 3 arm looks pretty cheap,later i will post a pic

Jure, your girlfriend is a good guy

 

[Jure]

Jure, your girlfriend is a good guy

all she know is that she have to look for stahlwille,knipex,hazet,wiha,wera and unior,and y it must be made in germany

 

[AutomatiquE]

There are many pullers/extractors brands in Germany. I don' t know for all, but Buco, Kukko, and Gedore's pullers are in the same league

 

[american lockpicker]

How interesting.

@mrtools It was a Blast. Heres some pics.

 

[TjoFrasse]

Today the rest of my cheap Weras arrived. I got these three chiseldrivers:

7mm slot, 10mm slot and PH3

And this lasertip set with case:

PH2, PZ2, PZ1 and three slotted sizes.

All for cheap with free shipping!

Not as cheap, but also got:

This German made Bahco saw:

And a long awaited 300mm Knipex Cobra:

 

[Monte]

@ Jure:
add "Nexus" to the list for your GF



btw.: Magna: www.magna-ind.de/en/index.htm

Of course.

As you can see it was a while ago as it was back when you could get US made Bosch products.

ah nice thanks for the pics !! There are not many Craftsman tools made in Germany except yours, a saw and the Cobras iirc.

@Monte : EUR 14,99 only ? Aldi is definetely the best "tool store" in the world

hehe
no
maybe once a year it is
the other 364 days its the shittiest tool store

The tools they sell here at Aldi are definately not Old World.

but why not ? The store is from the old world

Nice Schröder you have there. Today I paid the same amount for wiha stubby bitdriver at local hardware store and I think I got off easy. Not the one with the bitholder in the handle, just regular one.

BTW: The Rocol stuff I use is not oil but grease and comes in a 500Gr can. I cannot find link on Rocol website for the can. I am not sure but I think the grease works better for drilling. And a can like that lasts for years for me.

I doubt I could find a single machinist over here that does not use this Rocol. I have often wondered about what is in this stuff, I have tried motor oil, ATF, regular grease, molly grease and these do not do much if you are drilling mild steel.

What brand do you use, I am pretty sure you got something similar.

15.- for a bit holder ? hmmm luckily i live in germany

Just looked around the Rocol site, their stuff is not cheap
Actually i use motor + ****** fluid whatever is left in the can after a motor oil or ****** fluid change i´ll pour it into my "cutting fluid" can ...hey it´s for free... yeah i´m greedy when it comes to consumables
But i definitely will check into something better after i bought better drill bits, to protect them and to make them live longer.

Oo..I see
Thanks for your detail explanation, catalog link and advise about BELZER + A pics for your Bacho old catalog it very helpful
The catalog pics exactly a same model I see at a shop
BELZER (Germany/Argentina/Spain) vs FACOM (France/Italy/Taiwan) = I am agree with you, I go for BELZER
You are the best friend to asked about Old World Tools
Btw: Nice "Top Craft" ratcheting screwdriver and bits + a good pics
thank! again buddy

no problem
if you like the glossy finish then buy them
oh thanks for the flowers
Do you have pictures of that shop ? It seems they have good stuff like the Belzer wrenches, Hazet, Sunflag...

btw: nice screwdrivers !! Look very strong !!
Do you buy them for your job or for yourself at home ? Do you have to pay your tools you need for your job or your employer ?

And this lasertip set with case:
All for cheap with free shipping!

the case is cool !!! Never saw something like that here..

This German made Bahco saw:

cute saw !









one more for the collection:

"Circum" screwdriver

 

[american lockpicker]

ah nice thanks for the pics !! There are not many Craftsman tools made in Germany except yours, a saw and the Cobras iirc.

Also theres the wood drill bits(pricier than Colt though...) Sears also has an extensive amount of Swiss products when you count all the saw blades, theres a few heat guns, some step drill bits and something else I think.

 

[decaf]

And this lasertip set with case:

Where did you get that from? i´ve never seen that pretty case before...

Another maybe stupid question: how do you do too upload soo big pictures and not only tumbnails?

 

[TjoFrasse]

the case is cool !!! Never saw something like that here..

cute saw !

one more for the collection:

It's from Amazon UK. Free shipping to D also I think.

Thanks!

A update of the PH2 collection please!

Where did you get that from? i´ve never seen that pretty case before...

Another maybe stupid question: how do you do too upload soo big pictures and not only tumbnails?

I got it here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003MUJ6LY/?tag=atomicindustr-21
but when I ordered it was £15 only. Prices change quite often on amazon. Free shipping to sweden on orders over £25.

My images are not uploaded as attachments, I upload them to a separate server (I have bought a domain and virtual server from a provider). I upload the servers there and add them to the message. You probably has some storage space from your ISP to do the same if you want to.

 

[Monte]

Also theres the wood drill bits(pricier than Colt though...)

...and better...

Sears also has an extensive amount of Swiss products when you count all the saw blades, theres a few heat guns, some step drill bits and something else I think.

lol to count all saw blades that´s unfair Then you have to count all drill bits too

Another maybe stupid question: how do you do too upload soo big pictures and not only tumbnails?

upload your pics to

http://photobucket.com/

or better to:

www.imageshack.us

It's from Amazon UK. Free shipping to D also I think.

Thanks !

A update of the PH2 collection please!

it´s a mix of PH2, PH1, slotted, Torx etc...
will post pics soon, have to find some more first





Wanted to pick up a Sola measuring tape but they only had the levels so i left with catalogs ....

... and a Sola pen they gave me

ok not made in Austria or England but swiss made is ok too www.prodir.com

 

[american lockpicker]

Can you get me one of those pens? Also theres only 5-6 german made Cman drill bits and are they really better than Colt which is also German?

 

[AutomatiquE]

@Monte : Don't you already have a Sola measuring tape ?

 

[Trucky]

@Monte : Don't you already have a Sola measuring tape ?

He probably has 5 or 6 already, I bet

 

[Monte]

Can you get me one of those pens?

I´ll see if they give me another one

Also theres only 5-6 german made Cman drill bits and are they really better than Colt which is also German?

ehhh no
maybe even from the same manufaturer

@Monte : Don't you already have a Sola measuring tape ?

yes a "Big T" (see below)

I was looking for a smaller one: Sola Popular (3 meter). Only 4,34€ + tax

He probably has 5 or 6 already, I bet

but not from Sola (not yet )

(in the meantime a Stanley tape was added)

 

[AutomatiquE]

Fisco 5m. measuring tape "Made in England" :

 

[Monte]

nice pics + tape ! Looks like my Sola

 

[AutomatiquE]

nice pics + tape ! Looks like my Sola

ps : Is your Sola 8m, in Class 1 or Class II ?

 

[kissmeimgerman]

Wiha Scratch Awl

 

[Monte]

ps : Is your Sola 8m, in Class 1 or Class II ?

its class II. hmm interesting, it seems they switched from class II to class I now ? I thought only the Tri-Matic are class I ...... (which was on my wishlist)....time to buy another tape

btw: Where did you buy the Fisco tape ?