Tools from the old world

[Ratchet.]

Thanks!

Gedore sent me a nice big printed catalogue a while ago, along with other catalogues from companies within the Gedore-Group. No Klann one though, which is a shame. I really want a Klann catalogue.

Cool, i just ordered one from gedore (love the look of there ratchet spanners) so ill see what they send me

as an aside anyone on here bought stuff from asahi tools? or know where to get them in Europe? (i like the look of the light tools range, be very usefull for working on/keeping in my motorcycle)

that or any of the other Japanese company's, Deen Nepros etc

 

[Monte]

@Monte: Thanks Here in Czech Republic, you can find Narex in different kind of stores - in ironmongeries, DIY stores like Bauhaus, Baumax, Hornbach, in professional stores like Fabory, but even in supermarkets. The absolutely best buys of Narex tools are in small shops in small cities - man can often find there 20-30 years old Narex NIB tools for amazing prices (ok, mostly screwdrivers )

My opinion is that Narex made really professional tools in times when there wasn't any chinese competition. For example, when I see some worker with a drill nowadays, he has old Narex machine, new DeWalt/Metabo/etc., but never new Narex. But maybe I'm wrong. The sure thing is that my father's old Narex drilling machine must be a top-profi he wouldn't change it for any other (but it seems to be well-made thing...)

Thanks for the answer ! I always wondered because we don´t have Narex over here so i can´t look at the tools and inspect them But they certainly can´t be that bad because Narex also produces professional tools like metal shears and the Protool power tool range and some tools even seem to be identical/similar:
For example:

http://eu.narex.cz/web/Catalogue/ArtDetails.asp?MID=1&ArtID=2778

http://www.protool.de/Produkte/Seit...d=623111&name=Schlagbohrmaschine-PDP-20-2-EAQ

they also make tools for other companies:

http://www.kress-elektrik.com/Elekt...ce_pi1[catUid]=27&tx_commerce_pi1[showUid]=65

http://eu.narex.cz/web/Catalogue/ArtDetails.asp?MID=1&ArtID=2767

and if you click here and then click here and look only at the motor and gear case....

I knew that company but have never used any of their products, at electronics stores they say that brand is first class, but who knows...

hmm so we should stay with Ersa + Weller ?

Don't you think that your tools must be better than theirs???

mostly yes

hahahhahaha, well if nobody else watches you doing so, that's allright

Thanks for the info, is Koch Bohrer a good brand?

"average" i think, there a definitely better SDS-plus drill bits out there for example from Heller and Hawera, i had good experiences with their HSS-R steel drill bits, i also have their "Bankirai" HSS wood still bits (from Craftomat) which is ok, the best wood drill bits i heard are from Famag though
http://www.fine-tools.com/holzspiralbohrer.html

They seem very nice, even more at that price, did they have more than the one you picked up?

They had 3 left when i bought my set but they are all gone now. They also had SDS-Plus sets too. You could look out for Bosch "Multi Construction" drill bits - they are similar.

and the Facom set is made in Taiwan. Oh well, it's just an extra to keep in he trunk of my car.

Some old world stuff from my recent Epstein order. No name on the hook and pick set but sold as Facom.

And someday I need to make a light tent...

Postman arrived with some 'presents' for me

Tell the postman he can visit me too

 

[AutomatiquE]

"average" i think, there a definitely better SDS-plus drill bits out there for example from Heller and Hawera, i had good experiences with their HSS-R steel drill bits, i also have their "Bankirai" HSS wood still bits (from Craftomat) which is ok, the best wood drill bits i heard are from Famag though

Monte, are your Hawera drill bits made in Germany or imported ?
What do you think about "Löher" drill bits ?

 

[mrtools]

@mrtools : Nice tools as usual I've got a Stabila too, very good quality and unusual strong "Rare Earth" magnets

Thanks to share your Stabila PICS and your experienced about Stabila tools
Actually a Stabila is not mine, I found at my local hardware shop..maybe I should get one

Those Hazet are new (and small) and I have only used them for some light duty. The Channellocks have been beat to hell for years. Not a pretty or elegant tool, but they work well. I think Knipex or especially NWS are probably better than either for quality and detail.

Thanks!
emm I am agree
many of the members here love Knipex and NWS pliers both companies specialist for pliers maker
Btw: NWS is my dreams pliers

Hazet is in my tool box. Gedore at home. So i basically only use Hazet. I have several non-Hazet sockets in my tool box though, like Elora, Format or Gedore, but all my 6 pt. + 12 pt. sockets are Hazet.

Stabila makes good levels. Yours for example
nice !!!

Keil Goldcraft carbide tipped drill bits:

Hazet makes an awesome socket, It must be in our toolbox
It not mine yet!

Nice Keil Goldcraft carbide tipped drill bits

Universal cutters, Old school Fiskars vs Felco CP http://www.felco.ch/
Thick and heavy, hardened blades+center bolt. "La qualité Suisse".

Very nice and usable cutters

I recently bought some of the tools

Awesome.. congratulation!
How much do you pay for your Vessel precision screwdrivers?
Here in Malaysia so many Sata tools in the market. It sold in a good price but I am never try it yet

I started big reconstruction of my new flat this weekend. The very first friends and most useful helpers were these two machines
They helped me to modify old kitchen, built-in wardrobes and some concrete column into this:
I must mention this old ZN1 voltage tester, made in ČSSR. I love it. It was very handy to me when I had to disconnect the electric circuits:
And of course I established an emergency worktable imediately after I got the keys
So this all was four days ago, but there wasn't time to take more pictures of tools that came next days maybe tomorrow...

Nice PICS and tools

Belzer 3010 N adjustable wrench

Awesome PICS and wrench

Some old world stuff from my recent Epstein order. No name on the hook and pick set but sold as Facom.
And someday I need to make a light tent...

Nice translucent handle screwdriver
Good if you got a France made Facom

Postman arrived with some 'presents' for me
Elora VDE screwdrivers, vessel wire strippers, couple of pairs of knipex and a NWS cutter (used but in almost new condition), an Elora 20mm 3/8 drive socket, made in west Germany so maybe NOS? plus the 2011 NWS and Stahlwille catalogs.
All arrived in time for me starting my new job on monday
The socket is very nice quality, not the prettiest socket ever ever but functional and nicely finished , need the rest of the set now (that one cost me 99p off ebay.... )

Congratulation!!!!!!!
awesome tools, please report the Vessel wire stripper performance, I am sure all members waiting your opinions?

 

[mrtools]

found it in my father toolbox..W.-Germany

 

[Monte]

Monte, are your Hawera drill bits made in Germany or imported ?
What do you think about "Löher" drill bits ?

Which type of bit ?? Carbide should be Germany, could be different now since Bosch has chinese carbide tipped bits too now (Hawera = Bosch). Lower price = import, higher price = Germany i think. HSS bits are from Spain or China now too. (Same COO as Bosch)

Löher drill bits are very good i heard, but expensive. They have a import line too now....

Actually a Stabila is not mine, I found at my local hardware shop..maybe I should get one

yes

Hazet makes an awesome socket, It must be in our toolbox

you´re right

nice Erdi shears !!!!!





Olfa cutter/scraper set
www.olfa.co.jp

convex blade of the scraper

Olfa A-5 cutter

 

[AutomatiquE]

Monte, nice purchase Olfa is really the tip-top brand with still innovatives designs and quality products

ps : Did you already put some use in this "Black Blade" ? Does it worth the extra price ?

 

[vpavlov]

Hello all.
Here are some of my (humble in comparison to Monte's) toolset:
NWS sidecutters and pliers. The best pliers I've seen to date. In my opinion better than Knipex.

Knipex Kobolt cutters. Excellent for light-duty works.

Some beat-up Wiha Proturn and SoftFinish screwdrivers. SoftFinish are way more comfortable.

Wiha ProStar L-Keys - Hexagon socket - useful when someone needs a longer shaft.

A (still) virgin Fein WSG 14-70 E compact angle grinder with variable rpm's.

And last: a Phoenix Contact CrimpFox 10S crimping pliers for uninsulated ferrules. Apparently made by Knipex for Phoenix Contact. The price paid is well below that for the equivalent Knipex 97 53 04.

 

[north]

That's some nice quality tools vpavlov. And welcome to the forum.
I have that Knipex cutter myself and it is brilliant. Havent tried any NWS yet but judging from the people here I'm missing out.

 

[bart1]

I have Hazet, channellock, knipex, sellers, cheapos, etc and I think NWS are my best plies as well.

 

[AutomatiquE]

NOS Facom 603 Hacksaw :







Blade can rotates through 360° (every 45°)


Now with my favorite HSS blade brand "Ultra Record" http://www.ultranova.fr/:drool:

 

[Duarte]

Today's finds..

Stahlwille wrenches..

Beta sockets..

Also a couple of MAC extensions, a 3/8" wobble and a 3" extension for 1/4" ratchets

 

[north]

Nice find Duarte.

Wonder if I'm gonna have to move Stahlwille wrenches up on the list.

Man, GJ = ------------------> poor house...

 

[William Payne]

What do you think of the wonky ring end on the open box 14's?

 

[kissmeimgerman]

Hazet 832 U

 

[franzdom]

What do you think of the wonky ring end on the open box 14's?

By wonky do you mean the steep angle? It is different from Snap-on & Craftsman but it is a LOT more useful if you are doing shocks for instance. I have been thinking of replacing my SO with a nice set of these.

 

[american lockpicker]

Awesome hacksaw!!!

 

[AutomatiquE]

^^Thanks buddy, i knew you've gonna to like it

 

[Duarte]

What do you think of the wonky ring end on the open box 14's?

I just got it today, haven't had a chance to use it yet.

 

[William Payne]

Thats fine let me know what you think of it, I have the 13 series and before I go buying longer length wrenches I would love to know how the 14 series design compares to the more standard design of the 13 series.

 

[Duarte]

Man, GJ = ------------------> poor house...

 

[William Payne]

By wonky do you mean the steep angle? It is different from Snap-on & Craftsman but it is a LOT more useful if you are doing shocks for instance. I have been thinking of replacing my SO with a nice set of these.

Yip thats what I mean, maybe I will just do what I allways do with tools im undecided on. Buy both. I can see where it would be handy in places.

 

[mrtools]

yes
you´re right
nice Erdi shears !!!!!
Olfa cutter/scraper set
Olfa A-5 cutter

Thanks!
awesome!!
where you bought this? online?
How much you pays for it?

Hello all.
Here are some of my (humble in comparison to Monte's) toolset:
NWS sidecutters and pliers. The best pliers I've seen to date. In my opinion better than Knipex.

Knipex Kobolt cutters. Excellent for light-duty works.

Some beat-up Wiha Proturn and SoftFinish screwdrivers. SoftFinish are way more comfortable.

Wiha ProStar L-Keys - Hexagon socket - useful when someone needs a longer shaft.

A (still) virgin Fein WSG 14-70 E compact angle grinder with variable rpm's.

And last: a Phoenix Contact CrimpFox 10S crimping pliers for uninsulated ferrules. Apparently made by Knipex for Phoenix Contact. The price paid is well below that for the equivalent Knipex 97 53 04.

Welcome to the forum vpavlov

Nice post! I see you have a lot of quality tools
I am agree NWS better than Knipex but both have their advantages
for me I go to NWS.. My dream pliers
dont have yet.. but, will reach to me soon

Yes Knipex makes very good compact bolt-cutter

I have both Proturn and Soft finish Wiha insulated driver they perform a very good performance indeed.
I spy your insulated at a drivers shaft torn/peel of still used it for live working?
for your safety maybe you need to replace a new Insulated screwdrivers

NOS Facom 603 Hacksaw :
Blade can rotates through 360° (every 45°)
Now with my favorite HSS blade brand "Ultra Record"

Wow! nice France made hacksaw..how much $$?

Today's finds..
Stahlwille wrenches..
Beta sockets..
Also a couple of MAC extensions, a 3/8" wobble and a 3" extension for 1/4" ratchets

Awesome Stahlwille wrenches
I have a very good experienced with their Open-Box 14 series.

Hazet 832 U

By wonky do you mean the steep angle? It is different from Snap-on & Craftsman but it is a LOT more useful if you are doing shocks for instance. I have been thinking of replacing my SO with a nice set of these.

keep SO to your old drawer and get a Stahlwille Open-Box 14, I am sure you love it, Wille wrenches more better than your SO in any aspect
I already used it for many years..Wille wrenches never let me down

 

[mrtools]

received package..a minutes ago

my dream pliers arrived with my 2 pcs Wera Vario blades!!

Awesome built quality

 

[kissmeimgerman]

received package..a minutes ago

my dream pliers arrived with my 2 pcs Wera Vario blades!!

@mrtools Let me know what you think of Vario, I am on the verge of buying a handle and a few blades!

 

[Sick Puppy]

Some old world stuff from my recent Epstein order. No name on the hook and pick set but sold as Facom.

I have an Ullman pick set exactly like that...

 

[Monte]

Monte, nice purchase Olfa is really the tip-top brand with still innovatives designs and quality products

ps : Did you already put some use in this "Black Blade" ? Does it worth the extra price ?

Yeah Olfa is nice with a really large selection but NT Cutter isn´t shabby either (actually i prefer cast metal cutters )

just bought the tools, price was 50% off so the price was worth it I dunno about the blades yet, i have 18mm black blades from KDS/Japan which are quite sharp (i cut stainless steel mesh with it and no problems and they last)

Hello all.

hi and welcome !!
very nice tools you have there !!!!!!
Do you have some more pics of the Fein angle grinder ?

NOS Facom 603 Hacksaw :

sweet dude !!!!!! thats the coolest looking hacksaw ever with the translucent parts !!!!!!!!!!
How much do you want for it ?

Today's finds..

very nice wrenches + sockets - even with "Italy" stamped on them

Hazet 832 U

nice !!!!

where you bought this? online?
How much you pays for it?

i bought it at the local "Praktiker" big box store www.praktiker.de

prices:

cutter:

scraper/cutter set:

received package..a minutes ago

congratulations !!! Very nice pliers !!!!
you really like them huh ??? 2 same combi pliers + 2 water pump pliers ?

 

[AutomatiquE]

Wow! nice France made hacksaw..how much $$?

Hi mrtools, Happy to know you like it I paid EUR23,- (~31$)
ps : Nice NWS pliers, i've got the same Quattro waterpump. Far more better than the Knipex Cobra.

sweet dude !!!!!! thats the coolest looking hacksaw ever with the translucent parts !!!!!!!!!!
How much do you want for it ?

Sorry Monte, i don't sell my tools, but we can do a "tool change" if you want...Hmmmm do you still have your NOS Flex grinder...

 

[north]

I have an Ullman pick set exactly like that...

Yeah, might very well be Ullman.

 

[Bhae]

@MrTools:

Price of NWS?, please.
Nice pliers .

 

[Bhae]

NOS Facom 603 Hacksaw :

Beutiful!!

 

[bart1]

I got a package last night...

Probably after the weekend before I get pics up, but Hazet, Stahlwille, and some good new world stuff too.

 

[vpavlov]

That's some nice quality tools vpavlov. And welcome to the forum.
I have that Knipex cutter myself and it is brilliant. Havent tried any NWS yet but judging from the people here I'm missing out.

Thanks north. Actually I only used the Knipex Kobolt cutter twice, but it served me well and the money for it were well spent.

Welcome to the forum vpavlov
I have both Proturn and Soft finish Wiha insulated driver they perform a very good performance indeed.
I spy your insulated at a drivers shaft torn/peel of still used it for live working?
for your safety maybe you need to replace a new Insulated screwdrivers

To be honest I never thought about it. I use them on live wires maybe 5-6 times a year. Maybe I have to buy two sets of screwdrivers - one VDE and one conventional - with steel cap for using it with a hammer.

hi and welcome !!
very nice tools you have there !!!!!!
Do you have some more pics of the Fein angle grinder ?

Thanks Monte. I'll post better pictures (from different angles) of the Fein angle grinder soon. I think you have a similar Fein angle grinder?!!! Is that true? If so I have some questions. Thanks.

 

[TjoFrasse]

Wow, been away for a while and there has been lots of great posts! Nice tools everyone!

One of the reasons I haven't been posting for a while is being busy with moving garages. Changing from a worn out old industrial building to this:

I haven't got everything in order yet though. And since most things in the picture is made in West Germany I think they qualify for this thread
More to the topic though is my tool collection. Still trying to get some order, but since I'm missing a real tool chest I have to manage with toolboxes and shelves. This isn't everything, but most stuff is there:

Well, some newly bought stuff then. Bought these Bahco files today. On sale for 286:- SEK. Made in Portugal.

I also extended my S-line set with a breaker bar. The SBS87 matches my S-106 perfectly. Made in Argentina, £30.

I got a little surprised when I got these. I needed 1/2" impact 30mm and 36mm, so thought I might buy a hub nut set since that might come in handy more times. Got a bit surprised though when the British brand on the box didn't match what was on the content.

 

[north]

Congrats on your new hangout. Very nice and nice tools too. You be living the dream TjoFrasse.
BluePoint sockets can't be terrible bad.

And welcome back friend.

 

[TjoFrasse]

Congrats on your new hangout. Very nice and nice tools too. You be living the dream TjoFrasse.
BluePoint sockets can't be terrible bad.

And welcome back friend.

Thanks. It's not much, but at least there is room to work on my cars. Not seen in the picture is some storage space and shared work benches. We're four guys in total there. I'm proud of my tools, but there is quite a bit of the tools that have been bought due to budget instead of quality.

It's nice to be back posting again. Sad to not see Cosmic Binturong though, I haven't heard from him if he has received the package I sent him. Hope he's ok.

 

[north]

Hopefully Cosmic is just busy.

 

[Monte]

Sorry Monte, i don't sell my tools, but we can do a "tool change" if you want...Hmmmm do you still have your NOS Flex grinder...

muhahahaha you dreamer

I got a package last night...

Probably after the weekend before I get pics up, but Hazet, Stahlwille, and some good new world stuff too.

sounds good !!

Thanks Monte. I'll post better pictures (from different angles) of the Fein angle grinder soon. I think you have a similar Fein angle grinder?!!! Is that true? If so I have some questions. Thanks.

yes i have a similar model, but the older version of yours with the "Tip start" buttons. (Fein WSG 13-70 E)

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Wow, been away for a while and there has been lots of great posts! Nice tools everyone!

Nice place and tools you got there !!! Do you have more pics of the garage + workbench etc. ?
The new Bahco file handles are really comfortable !
Interesting "Laser" sockets !

 

[cliceu]

Another week at work pulled.
Arrived Hakko and Stabila:

Level measurement in angle, very interesting.

Very powerful magnet.

No miss my old iron.

Heavy source power to lightweight tip.

My list almost over, at least for this year.

 

[Monte]

@Cliceu:
very nice Hakko soldering station and Stabila level !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!