Tools from the old world

[american lockpicker]

I like that drill. Also speaking of gloves anyone know the OEM of the Husqvarna ones I put on here earlier?

 

[Olafur]

Nice Ko-ken stuff. Those universals are the newly designed ball-joint type too.

Do you have Ko-ken dealers in Iceland, or were they purchased from the UK?

And I can spot a pair of Japanese made pliers. Care to show us?

Koken has been sold here, on and off for over 25 years. But I am not sure we have Koken dealer so to speak. Icelandic wurth dealer is selling koken. Judging by prices everything they sell is made of gold - so I never shop there. I got this Japanese haul from levelchrome.com

First a little size comparison:
1/2" no-name joint
1/2" Koken
3/8" Facom
3/8" Koken

3/8 Facom-Koken

Vessel screwdrivers + bits.

"Super" and Engineer pliers:

 

[Monte]

Yeah, I have the Hazet version from the Smart Case also, but neither those are 14" long.

yours is the longest

Thanks Automatique.
Clients demand Gedore tools.

good clients

Thanks Monte.
How about bits Bianditz? and Toptul wrenche?

I tried the Bianditz bit several times and it works great ! The Toptul wrench is still unused in my collectors box i hope i have a chance to use it soon ! (sorry no 13mm screws to remove/install ) Thanks again Bhae !

The rest of my equipment

nice drill !

@Olafur:
Thanks for these nice pics !!


@Automatique:
Do you know something about "Roch" ?

 

[american lockpicker]

Nice Vessel bits. How much for a set?

 

[dykmore]

@american lockpicker, monte: thanks - my daddy's one-of-many, like the voltage tester that drill is 21 years old machine and still works as new. In my opinion, it is really profi tool, because my father lead it through the way of hell - for 20 years he was using it heavily in his work, almost every day...

 

[Olafur]

Nice Vessel bits. How much for a set?

About $2 each:

Have not tested them yet. Only their screwdrivers so far... very promising.

 

[AutomatiquE]

@Olafur : Compliments Excellent drivers and pliers. High grade steel and nice exotic design, the Japanese know how to make tools. Indeed

@Automatique:
Do you know something about "Roch" ?

Sure !
"Roch" is an old French measuring tools brand. Quite popular over here.

 

[bart1]

yours is the longest

...

I should put that in my sig...



Not as long as that 24" P2 I got on my last order, though.

 

[american lockpicker]

"Roch" is an old French measuring tools brand. Quite popular over here.

Sounds interesting, available here?

 

[Olafur]

@Olafur : Compliments Excellent drivers and pliers. High grade steel and nice exotic design, the Japanese know how to make tools. Indeed

Thanks.
I already tried the Engineer pliers, removing old rusted screws and material seems fine. I would like another pair few sizes larger for automotive work. The "super" pliers are quite well made but I have doubts about jaw hardness. Probably intended for electrical use, not to pull on hard brake springs e.t.c.

@Bhae
You must have the coooooooooolest tools shop in Spain!

 

[AutomatiquE]

@american lockpicker : Most of "Roch" tools i've seen are sold from time to time on French Ebay.

 

[Monte]

"Super" and Engineer pliers:

is there a hole in the cutting edge ?

Sure !
"Roch" is an old French measuring tools brand. Quite popular over here.

thanks ! Do you have any of their tools ?

I should put that in my sig...

Sounds interesting, available here?

contact the manufacturer: www.tesabs.ch

 

[north]

Bought some Milwaukee tools in a package deal at my local hardware store. Are these by any chance made in Germany/Europe? The label in the picture is plastered on the tools, batteries and charger but it doesn't say 'Made In'.
I have learned that Milwaukee tools sold in the US says 'Made In China'.

 

[american lockpicker]

Some Milwaukee was German made and said "Made in Germany" on it.

 

[Monte]

Bought some Milwaukee tools in a package deal at my local hardware store. Are these by any chance made in Germany/Europe? The label in the picture is plastered on the tools, batteries and charger but it doesn't say 'Made In'.
I have learned that Milwaukee tools sold in the US says 'Made In China'.

for the price i guess China.
The chuck of the drill might be from Japan though

 

[zuspiel]

I got this Japanese haul from levelchrome.com

First a little size comparison:
1/2" no-name joint
1/2" Koken
3/8" Facom
3/8" Koken

Those Koken u-joints look awesome. How well do they work? Seems to me that they might be easier to turn smoothly than regular u-joints.

I was about to order them from levelchrome but they appear to only have the 3/8" and 1/2". I want the 3/8 and the 1/4... Anybody know of a source for both?

 

[Olafur]

is there a hole in the cutting edge ?

Yes, wire stripper.

@zuspiel;
They work well. Smooth even at full angle. I am almost sure my regular one's will stay in the drawer from now on. Not sure if Koken makes 1/4"

 

[Olafur]

More pics:
My favourite wire stripper (and cutter), I just smile if someone offers me "automatic" one:

I would really like to know who makes this. I would also like Knipex or NWS to take a shot at this design.

 

[Monte]

I want the 3/8 and the 1/4... Anybody know of a source for both?

Bahco has one in 1/4"

Yes, wire stripper.

I just smile if someone offers me "automatic" one:

smile or cry ?

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I would really like to know who makes this.

someone in Japan maybe ?


@Automatique:
these are my other "Black blades" in 18mm. Very sharp too:

 

[AutomatiquE]

thanks ! Do you have any of their tools ?

Nope, sorry. I've just got this old Mitutoyo :







ps : I didn't know KDS make Black-Blades too, that's good to know. Thanks for the pic.

 

[Olafur]

smile or cry ?

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I didn't find the crying guy so I just use this one instead.


This one looks pretty good, I have one similar, It is 10 years old and I never use it. I probably would if I had to wire a house or some major wiring project, not sure though.

What I like about this design is how versatile it is. Here is an example:

 

[SMKS]

I rarely have tools to post in this thread, so I'm going to post this knife.


More knife made in Sweden. Purchased for the bargain price of $8.50 + tax from Harry Epstein.

 

[PrecisionTools]

I know not every one here is into woodwork tools but I'm sure you can appreciate this form of tool art...

http://two-lawyers-toolworks.blogspot.com/

I have a friend with one of these saws and its the closest thing to perfection I have ever seen.

 

[TjoFrasse]

and the Zyklop I got from the classifieds..

Nice with a full set!

More pics, Koken:
1/2" joint
3/8" joint
1/4" socket set
1/2" xzn set
1/2" torx set

Those universal joints are nice! Usually see that style in impact rated.

Finally started to repaint my cheapo jack stands. Can´t stand the red anymore Will try to match the blue of my trolley jack.

Good idea, post pics when done!

So, Hazet experts, anybody seen this one before?

Actually, it's a custom. Used a Wright 14" long 1/4" extension and fellow GJ member gj67stang putt hat in the handle of a broken Hazet screwdriver I had. Seems to have worked out great. I can use either the hex bolster or the 1/4" female end.

Good work, Dr Frankenstein!

Some new purchases for me. These ones are bart1's fault!

Stahlwille flex 3/8" sockets:

The "S" marking, not to intrusive, but would be nicer without...

A bit odd sizes, no 17mm.

Stahlwille 12-point 3/8" sockets:

 

[Olafur]

Snips

Awesome snips mrtools!


@TjoFrasse
Nice sthalwille haul. I wonder why these are discontinued.. lack of "flank" drive profile perhaps?

@PrecisionTools

This is art! Viking helmet inspired handle...

 

[vpavlov]

Do you have some more pics of the Fein angle grinder ?

There you go:
The box. Disappointed with the lack of plastic case as I have to carry the thing with me on sites.

Long (4 m.) rubber power cord, using Ozoflex cable (Siemens trade mark)

Made in Germany

The switch and the rpm controls. Not sure how long they'll last as they look and feel rather cheap.

The cooling.

I like the button for locking the wheel. It feels solid and locks perfectly.

The handle looks and feels rather cheap. Anti vibration handle would have been better.

The unit. The handle is quite close to the protector cover.

 

[Duarte]

Two types of Hapewe pliers, one from my old Mercedes 190 tool kit on top, one with beefier handles, a flea market find for $2..

and my Knipex long nose insulated pliers arrived today.

 

[Monte]

What I like about this design is how versatile it is. Here is an example:

ok you win

More knife made in Sweden. Purchased for the bargain price of $8.50 + tax from Harry Epstein.

nice looking knife + good price !!!

I know not every one here is into woodwork tools but I'm sure you can appreciate this form of tool art...

WOW amazing works of art !!!

Good idea, post pics when done!

ok

Some new purchases for me. These ones are bart1's fault!

from the UK ?

There you go:
The box. Disappointed with the lack of plastic case as I have to carry the thing with me on sites.

Thanks for the x-tra pics !
They sell a nice plastic carrying case:

The handle looks and feels rather cheap. Anti vibration handle would have been better.

The latest models come with anti vibration handle. But the vibrations with the normal handle are very low imho.

 

[Duarte]

Does anyone know if Beta sockets are still made in Italy? I have several, all marked "Beta Italy", but I have a 12mm that does not say ITALY on it. It also lacks the frosted finish all the others have... Safe to say Taiwan?

 

[Olafur]

@Duarte
I have seen BETA socket/ratchet sets on ebay who looks to be from Taiwan or China.
I.E: link

At least some of these are called Beta Easy.

 

[kissmeimgerman]

I see one of these in my future...

 

[Duarte]

@Olafur
Thanks. Here are two 12mm. One is 6 point, 910A, marked Italy. the other is 12 point, 910B, marked Beta only.

I have other 12 point sockets that are marked Italy. Only this one is not...

 

[Olafur]

@kissmeiamgerman: It would look good with your sweet wera set. Oh, and you got lucky the seller did not offer w.w. shipping. Great deal!
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Locking pliers, I need suggestions!
Local stores carry Irwin, even few USA made Irwin's left for "bargain" price, about $33 for 6-7" pliers. While it is not important to beat this price I think I could get good (even better) quality on ebay. Any old world ideas?

 

[Olafur]

@Olafur
Thanks. Here are two 12mm. One is 6 point, 910A, marked Italy. the other is 12 point, 910B, marked Beta only.

I have other 12 point sockets that are marked Italy. Only this one is not...

Strange. If I remember correctly all Beta sockets I have seen over the years do have mirror chrome finish. Similar to the -non Italy- one you have. How old are they? Again, if I remember correctly Beta has not been easy to figure out regarding COO (no reply to emails e.t.c) I have also noticed similarities between Facom and Beta (i.e similar combination wrenches in similar clips, ratchet wrenches e.t.c) .

According to UK farnell website some Facom sockets are made in Taiwan and they have mirror finish. Don't know if some conclusions can be drawn from this though.

 

[bart1]

My betas don't say Italy.

 

[Duarte]

@Olafur
A few suggestions for locking pliers:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48722

I have an old US made Vise-Grip my father gave me several years ago that has held up well. I also have a newer Husky locking pliers, no COO markings, but I suspect Taiwan. I've had them for a couple of years, and they are not as battle tested as the Vise-Grips, but have held up well enough. But I am sure you will get more interesting suggestions in the above thread.

 

[Duarte]

@bart1

Interesting. I assume you have a set, all purchased together? Mine came from several ebay sellers, so it is not too surprising. Maybe the unmarked socket is from a Beta Easy set as Olafur suggests?

 

[bart1]

Mine are a really nice chrome 920 set. 23-32 mm. Pictured earlier in this thread I think.

 

[north]

@Olafur. Grip-on from Spain

 

[kissmeimgerman]

@kissmeiamgerman: It would look good with your sweet wera set. Oh, and you got lucky the seller did not offer w.w. shipping. Great deal!
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Locking pliers, I need suggestions!
Local stores carry Irwin, even few USA made Irwin's left for "bargain" price, about $33 for 6-7" pliers. While it is not important to beat this price I think I could get good (even better) quality on ebay. Any old world ideas?

Oh I know, one of my best buys so far, now I have to get the 3/8 set...
get grip-on lockings or NWS if you can find them, I would assume ash can get them.