Tools from the old world

[american lockpicker]

Here's an old European turntable I bought back in the 70's....design was way ahead of its time. Almost sold it a few years ago on Craigslist until some clown asked if he could play his CD's on it. I hope he was kidding.

Wow you always have the coolest euro stuff. So where was it made and is there any chance of a video of it playing music? I used to have a US made record player that contained valves(vacuum tubes) that were made in England. I picked it up from my high school in 2006 as they were throwing it out.

Germans make one of the best watches as well, check out my Glashutte

Nice. I've been looking at getting a stainless Rolex next year.

 

[Monte]

My wife has a ton of make up made in Germany, Italy, and France - i guess we probably dont need pictures of that.

i´m not interested - Don´t know about the others though

Here's an old European turntable I bought back in the 70's....design was way ahead of its time. Almost sold it a few years ago on Craigslist until some clown asked if he could play his CD's on it. I hope he was kidding.

cool design !! Which brand/model ?

Here is my favorite tool, one that I use every day.

wow thats a cool looking sander !!!!
When i helped my cousin to renovate his house they used a "Bona" sander (Bona edge i think). Pretty cool loking tool too in chrome/red. I thought it was from the USA from the 1960´s





btw. household tools:





And now for something completely different




thin tape, only 6,35mm (1/4")

 

[Scuderia-F1]

cool design !! Which brand/model ?

By the looks of it I say Bang & Olufsen!

 

[unknow82]

wow thats a cool looking sander !!!!
When i helped my cousin to renovate his house they used a "Bona" sander (Bona edge i think). Pretty cool loking tool too in chrome/red. I thought it was from the USA from the 1960´s

Bona bought out Örebro and modern Örebro sanders are under Bona name. Both are made in Sweden. (Örebro is name of town where machines are made, Golvindustri or "floor industry" is huge name for comppany as it is not so huge in real life. I think most American have bigger garage then "floor industry" in Sweden.)

 

[heelsroll]

Posted this in its own thread but thought this might get to more people who would be interested. Found this at a local estate sale.

 

[Monte]

By the looks of it I say Bang & Olufsen!

thanks !! Will do some google research

Posted this in its own thread but thought this might get to more people who would be interested. Found this at a local estate sale.

cool test tool !

Bona bought out Örebro and modern Örebro sanders are under Bona name. Both are made in Sweden. (Örebro is name of town where machines are made, Golvindustri or "floor industry" is huge name for comppany as it is not so huge in real life.

just googled around a little bit. In 2000 they bought them
It seems Bona is now #1 in this type of tools ?

I think most American have bigger garage then "floor industry" in Sweden.)

btw. found some pics of the tools we used for the parquet

 

[ultgar]

By the looks of it I say Bang & Olufsen!

Its an old B&O 4002. Was actually on display at the Museum of Modern art years ago. Fortunately, it was not damaged in my warehouse flood back in March like a lot of my other audio equipment.

There electronics (Bang & Olefson, Denmark) has always been ahead of its time with regard to design. I've used it and have seen it installed in several garage projects over the years. Here's an old radio/CD changer from approx 10 years ago....

 

[unknow82]

Chassi is same on both machines, Modern motors have that electronic startup that is constantly broken, I prefer original ignition switch, with manual accelation.

Btw. dust free is not first word that comes in mind, maybe next time; Take the chord out from bag and tie it upp around bag, seperately.
Vacuum tube is little bit thiner in highest point and when you pull ******* bag down, it comes airtight.

btw. found some pics of the tools we used for the parquet


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they actually are same machines.

When you work every day with these machines, you tend to take all non-important part out, sander comes more nimble.
I can't send pictures from my smaler sander or (edge sander?) it is 30 years old and most people would consider it dangerous, so many parts are now missing.

Here are pictures from my normal day job, both typical, made with machine shown in this post and only with it, no other machines had been used.

 

[Ratchet.]

Posted this in its own thread but thought this might get to more people who would be interested. Found this at a local estate sale.

weird, im guessing its some sort of display/promo item? looks cool tho, never seen craftform handles in that colour

 

[Bhae]

Monte clear your private messages .

 

[heelsroll]

weird, im guessing its some sort of display/promo item? looks cool tho, never seen craftform handles in that colour

That was my thought, and clear handle to show the tang.

I could see using it for a grip test, one guy on each side trying to spin it out of other guy's grip.

 

[american lockpicker]

i´m not interested - Don´t know about the others though

I wanna see(not really.)

And now for something completely different




thin tape, only 6,35mm (1/4")

Very nice!!! Can you get any more(and what other NOS Stanley can you get???)

Its an old B&O 4002. Was actually on display at the Museum of Modern art years ago. Fortunately, it was not damaged in my warehouse flood back in March like a lot of my other audio equipment.

There electronics (Bang & Olefson, Denmark) has always been ahead of its time with regard to design. I've used it and have seen it installed in several garage projects over the years. Here's an old radio/CD changer from approx 10 years ago....

Very nice.

Heres my stuff.

Its interesting it says this as its very over priced and is my worst performing(no AM/MW reception without an antenna, CD player leaves a lot to be desired in features, not made in Denmark, etc.) radio. It does look great though.

Only thing that goes to the radio thats from the old world(music is from America back when we put out stuff worth listening to. )

Heres my "British" radio.

My Japanese made one(only one I use now.)

And lastly my recorder(for stealing music off youtube...)

If anyone knows of any current production radios of any type or electronics thats made in Europe or Japan I would love to hear about them(PM me.)

 

[north]

*snip*

Only thing that goes to the radio thats from the old world(music is from America back when we put out stuff worth listening to. )
*snip*

That's right buddy!

Ok, back on track now. *Whistle*

Edit: Forgot some pics of a small Geilo (of Norway) screwdriver. Probably from the 60's or early 70's.

 

[Monte]

Chassi is same on both machines, Modern motors have that electronic startup that is constantly broken, I prefer original ignition switch, with manual accelation.

Hence my motto: The good old stufff is always better

When you work every day with these machines, you tend to take all non-important part out, sander comes more nimble.
I can't send pictures from my smaler sander or (edge sander?) it is 30 years old and most people would consider it dangerous, so many parts are now missing.

post some pics in this thread it´s allowed even if it´s dangerous
Do you know where they get the motors from for the "Edge" sanders ? I looked under the housing and it seems they use a large angle grinder motor to power the machine !?

Here are pictures from my normal day job, both typical, made with machine shown in this post and only with it, no other machines had been used.

wow that looks good !!!

Monte clear your private messages .

ok

Very nice!!! Can you get any more(and what other NOS Stanley can you get???)

yes there is one left in the old package with coo, the other come in new plastic package without coo. They have several Bailey/Stanley wood chisels in old and new package with dark and light wooden handles, some with "Sheffield England" on the blade others with "Made in England with global material" (iirc) on the package.

Edit: Forgot some pics of a small Geilo (of Norway) screwdriver. Probably from the 60's or early 70's.

exotic brand !







"Suhner UWF 10" 125mm/5" angle grinder
www.suhner.ch
www.suhner-abrasive-expert.com

 

[american lockpicker]

Ok Monte get me pics and I'll tell you what I want(looks like I'll be doing my personal Christmas shopping early this year...)

I really like old Stanley, I held the brand in high regards when I was a kid(in the 90s.)

 

[american lockpicker]

I dug out the Stanley tools we used to use till I retired them. My dad used to use them but they may have belonged to either of my grandfathers. I know its not his as he only buys Craftsman(used to work for Sears.)

And heres my first real tool.

When I was very young I seen a similar Stanley tape measure at some store and it had a chain and key ring. For some unknown reason I just had to have it and bugged my mother and grandmother about it all the time. They found this used at a yard sale and I didn't like it(no key ring) so eventually my grandmother got me the one I wanted for Christmas it didn't last a day. lol This one on the other hand worked and I kept over the years and still have it.

 

[unknow82]

Do you know where they get the motors from for the "Edge" sanders ? I looked under the housing and it seems they use a large angle grinder motor to power the machine !?

I have old ones that have way more torque then modern one's, I mean; when you use P16 paper and sand some 100 years old paint off... With old machine you can just barely hold on it, if not familiar these machines it can flip you over it.
Motors in old Örebro side sanders are Bevi (Sweden)
1.1Kw
2820rpm
7A

 

[Duarte]

Another Beta wrench ... 7mm ratcheting combo

 

[mrtools]

I ordered some Beta wrenches in sizes I did not have, to complete my sets. 8mm (marked Italy) and 18mm combo/ratcheting), 21mm and 22mm. Each wrench has a diff. finish
I also picked up some Beta snap ring pliers, and some Stahlville 1/4 extensions.

Nice ! Beta fans?

The Wurth has a smaller diameter at the end of the driver where the cap is. The Wurth also has bigger "bulges" in the handle:

yeah i guess garden scissors ! I only cut some paper to test it and it works
If you need something for garden work ...

it comes with rubber heads. But you can exchange them with different types of heads: hard rubber, soft rubber, nylon, copper, aluminium, hard plastic etc...

http://www.halder.de/produkte/artgroup.asp?menu=296&submenu=products&k=5&s=us&g=17

i only cut some paper and 0,75mm² and 1,5mm² cable with it, it cuts very good and very easy without much pressure. Blades seem to be very sharp.
They´re a bit cheaper, in germany the list price for 160mm side cutters in finish #19 is 15.30€ for finish #69 €17.40 and for finish #49 €20.00. (VDE = €22.80) all prices + tax.

another pic for you

or Felo
But i think it´s made by Wiha.
The older Promat is made by Wiha too i think, the basic handle shape looks like that and the blades looks like Wiha too.

Oh I see..Thanks for nice PIC Felo and Wurth comparison

Owned a many tools such a garden scissors for specific jobs make my happy

Thank for a explanation about Halder hammer and useful link

Not bad..NWS always focus a quality even for a low prices series
Nice comparison PIC
good prices at germany but here we have to add a shipping cost

I am agree Promat = Wiha

Btw: very nice painting jobs

Picked up TOP ratchets in 3/8 and 1/2 from Levelchrome's recent sale. They feel robust to say the least, very positive ratcheting action. Not as easy spinning as Facom/SK palm control ratchets, but feel a lot more solid when really putting the power down. I-beam neck feels really stiff.

I really like the 1/2" ratchet, it's head is considerably smaller than a 1/2" SK, it's the same diameter as the TOP 3/8". Basically a 1/2" in a 3/8" head, but what really does it for me is the built in quick spinner!!!

The handles remind me of a lower profile Craftsman raise panel. I almost wonder if TOP produced the Japanese Craftsman of yester year. These will be going in the truck tool kit, they give a feel of confidence.

Congratulation!
awesome made JIS ratchet

Here's my first order from Harry Epstein..
Some French goodness.. Facom|France 19mm combo, 22mm x 24mm box, a couple of screwdrivers. Some SK (made in France) Pozi drivers.
Bahco (France) pliers
A Taiwanese multimeter to replace my crappy Radio Shack model.
And last but not least, some NOS US made pliers, SK, Crescent and Wilde.
I also picked up a tool roll which is a bargain at $7 and very nice!
A great first experience with HE. Fast shipping and great selection of tools.

Nice shopping

Gedore soft face hammer

Nice!
Gedore made it own hammer or Habero made for them like Rotband-Plus series?

Just started a 17mm 1/2" drive socket collection

Nice!
Go on buddy

The content of the Hazet 180 and the more interesting Lista drawers.
Sorry for any **** not from the Old world. The Sunex sockets is from Taiwan, don't know if that is old world..

Speechless

And now for something completely different
thin tape, only 6,35mm (1/4")

Wow! awesome Stanley

Edit: Forgot some pics of a small Geilo (of Norway) screwdriver. Probably from the 60's or early 70's.

Nice where you get it?

"Suhner UWF 10" 125mm/5" angle grinder
www.suhner.ch
www.suhner-abrasive-expert.com

It one of your angle grinder collection?
looks very clean

I dug out the Stanley tools we used to use till I retired them. My dad used to use them but they may have belonged to either of my grandfathers. I know its not his as he only buys Craftsman(used to work for Sears.)
When I was very young I seen a similar Stanley tape measure at some store and it had a chain and key ring. For some unknown reason I just had to have it and bugged my mother and grandmother about it all the time. They found this used at a yard sale and I didn't like it(no key ring) so eventually my grandmother got me the one I wanted for Christmas it didn't last a day. lol This one on the other hand worked and I kept over the years and still have it.

Wow it look very old and exotic

 

[mrtools]

Torpedo level

 

[north]

*snip*

Nice where you get it?
*snip*

Been in the family for 40 years or so.

 

[superautobacs]

Monte,

Never thought I'd consider an angle grinder could look good to the eye
(really, they don't have to be ) ... but that Suhner angle grinder I gotta say looks pretty darn good. ....love the colour combination.


Mr. Tools,

That's quite the level, and it's the first time for me to hear that company.
Thanks for showing us.

They are geared towards the machinist trades, and built in Niigata prefecture : RSK

 

[Monte]

Ok Monte get me pics and I'll tell you what I want(looks like I'll be doing my personal Christmas shopping early this year...)

I really like old Stanley, I held the brand in high regards when I was a kid(in the 90s.)

i will see if they will allow me to take pics but i doubt it.

I have old ones that have way more torque then modern one's, I mean; when you use P16 paper and sand some 100 years old paint off... With old machine you can just barely hold on it, if not familiar these machines it can flip you over it.
Motors in old Örebro side sanders are Bevi (Sweden)
1.1Kw
2820rpm
7A

That sounds dangerous

Another Beta wrench ... 7mm ratcheting combo

nice clean design !

Oh I see..Thanks for nice PIC Felo and Wurth comparison

you´re welcome

Owned a many tools such a garden scissors for specific jobs make my happy

Thank for a explanation about Halder hammer and useful link

Not bad..NWS always focus a quality even for a low prices series
Nice comparison PIC
good prices at germany but here we have to add a shipping cost

yeah they´re nice but i think you already have some good NWS pliers
(ok it´s not bad to have some more NWS pliers )

Btw: very nice painting jobs

thanks

Nice!
Gedore made it own hammer or Habero made for them like Rotband-Plus series?

Habero belongs to Gedore, i don´t know if they make them on their own or maybe made by Ha-So
http://www.ha-so.de/index.php?cat=272&content=H%E4mmer
www.ha-so.de

HKR has similar looking hammers but with the size cast into the head so i don´t know...
http://www.hkr-werkzeuge.de/H%E4mmer.htm
www.hkr-werkzeuge.de

Nice!
Go on buddy

ok
see below

It one of your angle grinder collection?
looks very clean

yes, it´s still new and i used it only once to make some test cuts
I like the old design

Monte,

Never thought I'd consider an angle grinder could look good to the eye
(really, they don't have to be ) ... but that Suhner angle grinder I gotta say looks pretty darn good. ....love the colour combination.

That´s basically the reason i bought it because i really like the design
Nice old german industrial design without any fancy things






Another one for the 17mm 1/2" dr. socket collection:

 

[zuspiel]

It's made in Argentina? So, it will either steal your other sockets or have *** with them and make little 1/8" drive baby sockets... The latter might be somewhat preferable...

 

[kissmeimgerman]

It's made in Argentina? So, it will either steal your other sockets or have *** with them and make little 1/8" drive baby sockets... The latter might be somewhat preferable...

Dunno, that bahco is kinda ugly

 

[Monte]

It's made in Argentina? So, it will either steal your other sockets or have *** with them and make little 1/8" drive baby sockets... The latter might be somewhat preferable...

it´s stored separately

Dunno, that bahco is kinda ugly

yes...my least favourite socket so far...




Another one for the 17mm 1/2" socket collection:
Stanley:

 

[Bhae]

Today:

 

[north]

Bhae, you could charge for guided tours in your shop after regular hours. More treasures and art there than the rest of Spain I think.

 

[kissmeimgerman]

@Bhae if I ever get to Spain, I will be looking your shop up!

 

[mofo62]

Today:

Nice 100%


congratulations awesome toolBox...


$$$ ?



V!

 

[jensputzier]

Here are some comparison shots of the new Hazet 863-1 fine tooth 1/4" ratchet and the 863F:

 

[Fedwrench]

Here's a Bahco 80 tooth ratchet made in Spain. Its internals are the same as a Snap on F80. Nice handle.

 

[zuspiel]

Nice ratchets!

 

[9144]

Hi, Monte, I want to know: FELO, WIHA, WERA screwdriver three brands in Germany and Europe, which brand's reputation or the quality is better, what your opinion of these three brands. Only on the screwdriver, thank you.

 

[north]

Here's a Bahco 80 tooth ratchet made in Spain. Its internals are the same as a Snap on F80. Nice handle.

How do we know it is made in Spain?

 

[FARA]

How do we know it is made in Spain?

To that that it is made by Irimo

 

[north]

Ah, thanks.

 

[zuspiel]

Hi, Monte, I want to know: FELO, WIHA, WERA screwdriver three brands in Germany and Europe, which brand's reputation or the quality is better, what your opinion of these three brands. Only on the screwdriver, thank you.

Don't forget the (non-German) PB Swiss drivers, which are my personal favorite. Followed by Felo...

 

[archirelic]

@Monte:

I sent you a PM the other day, just wondering if you've received it? [figured I might get your attention through this thread!!]

Thanks!

 

[superautobacs]

North,

The internals of that Bahco would definitely be from Taiwan though (confirmed by Snap-On Japan).

Here are some comparison shots of the new Hazet 863-1 fine tooth 1/4" ratchet and the 863F:

The 863-1 1/4" is still a big head.