Tools from the old world

[Rusik]

Hatchet Bahco
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[american lockpicker]

Rusik can you get names and pictures(like at a shop) of new Russian made tools?

 

[Rusik]

Rusik can you get names and pictures(like at a shop) of new Russian made tools?

The difficult situation. Plants is almost gone. Until then look http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1811193&postcount=8956

Here is today's wrenches http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1811000&postcount=8948


old of today is no different

 

[t.ruckus.rex]

Any ever hear of a brand called Tecos?

All I can find is that its a Solvenian tool and die development center.

Looks nicely made, has a a silvery Stahlwillie like finish.

 

[Flash21]

....

ps: in case you didn`t know it already - here is a video where you see how these Hazet 600N wrenches are made: click (the "Kabel Eins" video)

Monte - I noticed this link is dead, do you happen to have the current link? I was hoping to review the Hazet manufacturing method again - love that video but i can't find it now.

 

[Monte]

wow thats a cool idea !!!!!! nice cake !!!

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H.B...

V!

Yeah, design (no hole in the base) and finish (shinier) is changed.

i thought the hole is long gone except on the 1/4" ??

I'm really fond of the Wera handle design. And the chiseldrivers are neat. It's also my OCD that makes me love having complete matching sets Hence all the Bahco S-line stuff also I'm terrified of testing PB-swiss and liking them more, then having to change everything out

lol when i look through the Wera catalog there are still a bunch of screwdrivers left to buy for you Tri-Wing, Robertson, Torq-set
Thats gonna be expensive

This is getting silly!

Since you have so many different, which brands "quick exchange" system do you prefer?

yes i have a couple of different ones:
From left to right:
Bosch "SDS-Clic", Metabo "Quick" ("Bosch" system), Metabo "Quick" ("Jacobs" system), regular nut, AEG "Fixtec", Metabo "Quick" (Metabo system):

Bosch + Metabo "Quick" ("Bosch" system) are identical, Metabo "Quick" ("Jacobs" system) works similar. You tighten it like a normal nut and release it the same way too. Even if it´s really tight it works because the outer ring releases the nut (see video). Bosch sells these with their small angle grinders too, Metabo only with the larger ones and also recommend it only for 180mm + 230mm. The AEG (same like from Milwaukee + Atlas Copco) nut is basically a normal nut but with "handle" (see video). If it´s too tight it has 2 holes for the wrench. Metabo "Quick" (Metabo system) works different. After you switch the tool off and the disc is getting slower you simply push the spindle lock. You then can remove the nut easily. Makita and Hitachi have quick release versions too, but not as a nut but the flange underneath the disc (Makita offers both: quick flange + quick nut). But i don´t have their versions. Fein has a different system, not a "quick nut" or "quick flange" but a "quick spindle", but you need a special spindle + backing pad for fibre discs, you can´t use M14 accesssoires etc. so it´s basically only for cutting/grinding discs + flap wheels if you dont want to buy something extra. The spindle is also longer than regular so it takes a bit longer to remove it .

Since most nuts (except AEG + Metabo (Metabo system)) are quite high i usually don´t use them with grinding wheels and since i mostly have no problems with too tight discs i barely use them at all. They might be helpful if you often jam cutting discs and then i would recommend the "SDS-Clic" version. Metabos always come with their nut (except the entry level models) so you automatically have it, it´s a bit more difficult to remove than a regular nut because the nut is attached to the spindle with 2 "noses" which engage into 2 slots in the spindle. But you could use a regular nut too.




Here is a video which demonstrates the different types:

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And a link to a german site with an overview:
http://www.werkzeug-news.de/werkzeu...heiben-spannsysteme-fuer-winkelschleifer.html

Metabo "Quick" (Metabo system):

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LB7SzIk27EU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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very nice japanese tool collection !!!

ppps. Monte, i've been processed through a bunch of nice Old World "tools" too bad i wasn't allowed to take pixes, even crappy ones!

come on no pics within a half year ??

Click here to see videos of the product in action

the Nejisaurus manga videos are hilarious

Other than Gedore what brands are made in Brazil

www.bellota.com
www.coopertools.com.br
www.corneta.com.br
www.moretzsohn.com.br
www.tramontina.com.br
www.vonder.com.br

Any ever hear of a brand called Tecos?

looks Taiwanese ?

Monte - I noticed this link is dead, do you happen to have the current link? I was hoping to review the Hazet manufacturing method again - love that video but i can't find it now.

http://www.hazet.de/download-service/film-archiv/

 

[littletoes]

Any ever hear of a brand called Tecos?

All I can find is that its a Solvenian tool and die development center.

Looks nicely made, has a a silvery Stahlwillie like finish.

Notice "TECOS" is "Socet" spelled backwards?

 

[north]

Any ever hear of a brand called Tecos?

*snip*

Found this 1/2" drive 30 mm socket on the side of the road back in the 90's. A bit scuffed on the outside but appears unused on the inside. Never used it myself.

 

[mrtools]

it´s nice ! I have the same
Fein WSS 14-125

Sweet!!!!!!!!

Yes, I work for a ABC/FOX/MyTV affiliate in IT/Broadcast Engineering

Good jobs

Yes, 72

These were probably posted many times in this thread but heck, we all like pics right?
My very first Hazets! Thanks Jens!
Got these wihas too, anybody used these already?
my sister just came home from her trip abroad, here is her token gift

Nice Hazet stuff!!!
I owned Wiha (mm) hex keys but the old model (no magic ring) it never give me any problems
Btw: nice France Facom stubby

Nice Grabo
Btw, i can remenber one of your good review about your brand new NWS pliers. You noticed handles having a spring action when handling them hard.
Today i talked to a Knipex sales rep. He confirmed me that knipex pliers are completly hardened, handles + heads !
He also told me that NWS pliers only have heads hardened not handles. That's why they give this spring feeling and not as i thought because of a different kind of steel.

Thanks buddy!!!
to know a tools actual performances we have to tried a tools at their maximum limit that my ways
I believe what a Knipex sales rep. mention to you.
maybe NWS only focus their harden treatment process at a pliers head not a overall body
a handles feel too soft when compare to Knipex and another Japanese pliers but a head is awesome
Everyone have their own taste, it only my personal opinions.

promised
New magnet for my hand lamp.
...on my little Peugeot

Nice

Did some work on my car today and grabbed these tools below instead of the usual shinny chrome ones.
West German Made Padre
It is the tightest, most positive ratcheting feel ( brute finesse ) 32 teeth ratchet I have ever tried.

Wow! nice old W Germany made tools do you know how old these ratchet sets?

- Off line, never stop, I have to buy "Made in Brazil" and others in local stores for my work.

another one for the 17mm 1/2" dr. socket collection:
Hazet

Awesome pixel
why your socket stamp Made in Germany, mine not just stamp GERMANY?

Wiha SoftFinish® electric slimFix screwdrivers
Wiha "slimFix" compared to regular Wiha (and other) electric screwdrivers:
Finally someone solved one of the most urgent problems of the human mankind....... ....:

Nice reviews PICS
thanks!!!!!!!

Haven't really tried them out yet, but I have enough faith in Wera to feel that I made the right choice for the price (£15).

@Plasmatic
Nice JIS Vessel drivers!!!Congratulation
I'm sure you are very happy with them
Btw: good reviews adjustable wrenches thanks!!

@dede
Welcome back !!!!!!!!
thanks for the Engineer pliers PICS

@cosmic
where you been? welcome back buddy.. we all miss your crappy PICS

@rusik
You have a very nice old tools..congratulations! where you got it?..

Bosch "SDS-Clic", Metabo "Quick" ("Bosch" system), Metabo "Quick" ("Jacobs" system), regular nut, AEG "Fixtec", Metabo "Quick" (Metabo system)
Here is a video which demonstrates the different types:

Nice PICS and video

 

[mrtools]

Back to blue..
received another Hazet goodies from our member Jens a few days ago
Thanks to Jens who really understand my desire
very fast shipment awesome jobs
Got this 918-10 and 920 to completed my sets and to ensure my weekend holiday filled with a good activities

comes with empty Smart case 165L and I need to custom my own insert foam to match my fine tooth ratchet, sliding T, extension, universal joint and socket. Hopes Hazet designer can at more thickness to their future Smart Case

temporary I'm used a cheap foam to make sure my goodies comfortable before I get a very good blue foam to match my case

Forgot one item 600N-13 not mine, I get it for my boss he looks very interested to Hazet tools

Now I'm waiting a second shipment from Jens

 

[Monte]

Everyone have their own taste, it only my personal opinions.

NWS pliers work, right !?

Awesome pixel
why your socket stamp Made in Germany, mine not just stamp GERMANY?

That are the new sockets/extensions. With "Made in Germany" stamped.

Thanks to Jens who really understand my desire

comes with empty Smart case 165L and I need to custom my own insert

wow the smart case looks really good !!!!!!!!
nice job with the foam !!

Now I'm waiting a second shipment from Jens

btw:

New Hazet tools for 2011/2012:
PDF:
http://www.hazet.de/fileadmin/media/aktionen/sww_2011_2012.pdf

Online:
http://www.hazet.de/fileadmin/media/easyflip/sww_2011_2012/Start.html

some prices:
http://heisse-nuesse.de/index.php?page=categorie&cat=415


new "smart case" lineup:

 

[north]

Very nice mrtools. I guess you're the Hazet guru of Malaysia now.

 

[bart1]

Love those new cases. Especially cool that the large one matches up to the inserts for the Assistents.

Here's a couple of my Hazet boxes:

Actually can't find a pic of the case this insert goes in...

And my original 1/4" SmartCase set:

 

[north]

Old screwdriver from DDR, or GDR - German Democratic Republic. *snip* Tip is broken.

Edit: TGL" = "DIN" in east germany according to The Toolminator.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technis...ferbedingungen

 

[Rusik]

@rusik
You have a very nice old tools..congratulations! where you got it?..

Thank you. Bought at different places. Some tools are long, some recently. I love the instrument. I can not pass and do not buy

 

[Monte]

Old screwdriver from DDR, or GDR - German Democratic Republic. Brand is IGL or TGL. Bit in a hurry now. Will check later. Tip is broken.

"TGL" = "DIN" in east germany

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technische_Normen,_Gütevorschriften_und_Lieferbedingungen

 

[AutomatiquE]

"PH-55"

Wow impressive !

Any ever hear of a brand calledTecos

Never heard before, but i don't believe it's Slovenian.

Everyone have their own taste, it only my personal opinions.

Right

@cosmic
where you been? welcome back buddy.. we all miss your crappy PICS

+1

Back to blue..

Very smart case, i like it I'm not surprised Hazet is in the top 100 most inovatives German companies

NWS pliers work, right !?

Sure they work ! And to prove you i'm not a Taliban "Anti-NWS", a pic of my humble collection



@Rusik : Nice stuffs

@Plasmatic : Very cool collection. Interresting Engineer adjustable wrenche In your opinion, are jaws strong enough ?

 

[unknow82]

Reply with Beta Italy pliers from late 1980's

Sure they work ! And to prove you i'm not a Taliban "Anti-NWS", a pic of my humble collection

Neather am I part of Anti-NWS, I would guess that NWS are from middle of 1990's?

 

[AutomatiquE]

Reply with Beta Italy pliers fromlate1980's

Very nice Beta pliers Any Coo ?

 

[Monte]

Sure they work ! And to prove you i'm not a Taliban "Anti-NWS", a pic of my humble collection

a Taliban "pro NWS"
good start for a complete NWS collection !!!

Reply with Beta Italy pliers from late 1980's

wow they look nice !! nice chrome !

 

[superautobacs]

The new Hazet Smart Case lineup is a pretty nifty idea.



@t.ruckus.rex,
TECOS reeks of Taiwan for a COO. ..not that that's bad.

 

[lok]

So what do you think guys? What is the most resistant to rust, chrome plated pliers or those with the titanfinish?

I try to find the chrome plated of nws and is almost impossible. so I'll buy those with titan finish, which I like more, or the chrome plated of knipex, gedore.

 

[Monte]

Victorinox scissors:

www.victorinox.com

 

[lok]

Sure they work ! And to prove you i'm not a Taliban "Anti-NWS", a pic of my humble collection

Automatique nice nws pliers, my favorite ones.
Especially those with the old grip.

 

[AutomatiquE]

a Taliban "pro NWS"
good start for a complete NWS collection !!!

Victorinox scissors

Cool scissors 55 Hrc?!

Automatique nice nws pliers, my favorite ones.
Especially those with the old grip.

My favorite is the waterpump pliers. I also like the universal pliers, they're well made and the design is very effective. Also the good feature is they always open/close flawlessly : easy to manipulate with only one hand.
I wouldn't recommande the front side pliers, they're not made from vanadium then i find them too fragile to cut very hard steel or piano. Knipex have a better high leverage front side cutter.

 

[jape]

My new best friend

Knipex 97 51 10 crimping pliers for RJ11/RJ12 and RJ45 connectors

 

[north]

"TGL" = "DIN" in east germany

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technische_Normen,_Gütevorschriften_und_Lieferbedingungen

I see... thank you sir.

 

[american lockpicker]

Old screwdriver from DDR, or GDR - German Democratic Republic. *snip* Tip is broken.

Edit: TGL" = "DIN" in east germany according to The Toolminator.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technis...ferbedingungen

Nice East German tool!

Victorinox scissors:

www.victorinox.com

Hmm if only it was Swiss... Nice scissors I may get a pair someday for varietys sake.

Now some pics from todays incident with the Jaguar(thread with more pics in Free Parking...)

Too bad this was all the tools it came with...

Ratchet my BIL brought.

Heres my nephew opening the Playmobile toy set.

Meanwhile in America he plays with it for a minute says he doesn't want it and would like legos instead... So I have a new drill bit holder.

 

[unknow82]

Very nice Beta pliers Any Coo ?

Actually no.
Those are old, that Beta factory's where in that time;

Italy (1938 Sovico, 1973 Castiglione, 1980 Sulmona)

And from 1980; France, UK, Holland, Spain, Poland.

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/index.php?main_page=betatoolshistory

 

[Plasmatic]

@Plasmatic : Very cool collection. Interresting Engineer adjustable wrenche In your opinion, are jaws strong enough ?

Well, I just got it so I haven't put it through its paces yet, but it seems like it will be sufficient for applications involving electronic connectors, which was my intended use. Definitely not going to be putting a cheater on it, that's for sure...

 

[cosmik binturong]

Thanks buddy!!!
to know a tools actual performances we have to tried a tools at their maximum limit that my ways

isn't that what they're for? "work"

no time for polishing'em on this thread! (cleaning's ok though...)

@cosmic
where you been? welcome back buddy.. we all miss your crappy PICS

thnaks for the welcome mrtools! had the chance to sample some modern medical facilities and the assorted medieval practices, then got more than a month and a half of forced countryside vacation: no bike, almost no internet and no fooling around with tools...
cosmik's crappy pics we'll be back next month or so i hope!

(i've almost finished the backlog of posts on *this* thread... only half a page to go! )

(my girlfriend got me a nice second hand Stahlwille Rollbox though, but please keep quiet about it, eh! it's her Christmas surprise for me! )

(got some NOS Hawera stuff for the Bosch cordless drill while getting out of the hospital, so it might have been worth it methinks )

 

[jensputzier]

My very first Hazets! Thanks Jens!

You're welcome! Have fun with them!

 

[mrtools]

NWS pliers work, right !?
That are the new sockets/extensions. With "Made in Germany" stamped.
wow the smart case looks really good !!!!!!!!
nice job with the foam !!
new "smart case" lineup:

Of cause it work!! and It one of my favorite pliers

Thanks for your compliment about Smart case + foam

It looks very tough in the catalog pics, a ideal thickness of socket set case. I'm guess something about 2- 2.5mm but when I got it a thickness not satisfied my desired..
Btw:thanks for the catalog pics

Very nice mrtools. I guess you're the Hazet guru of Malaysia now.

Thanks buddy!!!
maybe the title is too big for me

Love those new cases. Especially cool that the large one matches up to the inserts for the Assistents.
Here's a couple of my Hazet boxes:
Actually can't find a pic of the case this insert goes in...
And my original 1/4" SmartCase set:

It nice Bart1

Old screwdriver from DDR, or GDR - German Democratic Republic. *snip* Tip is broken.
Edit: TGL" = "DIN" in east germany according to The Toolminator.

Very exotic one where you get it, museum ?

Thank you. Bought at different places. Some tools are long, some recently. I love the instrument. I can not pass and do not buy

Thanks for the answers

Very smart case, i like it I'm not surprised Hazet is in the top 100 most inovatives German companies
Sure they work ! And to prove you i'm not a Taliban "Anti-NWS", a pic of my humble collection

Yeahhhh!!! hazet is a very good company for tool innovation
Great NWS pliers collection..Taliban Anti SO and Pro Germany company NWS

Reply with Beta Italy pliers from late 1980's
Neather am I part of Anti-NWS, I would guess that NWS are from middle of 1990's?

Awesome Beta pliers.. Italian made?

a Taliban "pro NWS"

The new Hazet Smart Case lineup is a pretty nifty idea.

Right! I'm agree

So what do you think guys? What is the most resistant to rust, chrome plated pliers or those with the titanfinish?
I try to find the chrome plated of nws and is almost impossible. so I'll buy those with titan finish, which I like more, or the chrome plated of knipex, gedore.

I go to NWS Titan finish, awesome looks and it always my choice when working outdoor.

Victorinox scissors:

Awesome!!
Made in Germany, at Soligen?

My new best friend
Knipex 97 51 10 crimping pliers for RJ11/RJ12 and RJ45 connectors

Cools!!
are you working with network?

isn't that what they're for? "work"

no time for polishing'em on this thread! (cleaning's ok though...)

thnaks for the welcome mrtools! had the chance to sample some modern medical facilities and the assorted medieval practices, then got more than a month and a half of forced countryside vacation: no bike, almost no internet and no fooling around with tools...
cosmik's crappy pics we'll be back next month or so i hope!

(my girlfriend got me a nice second hand Stahlwille Rollbox though, but please keep quiet about it, eh! it's her Christmas surprise for me! )
(got some NOS Hawera stuff for the Bosch cordless drill while getting out of the hospital, so it might have been worth it methinks )

Yeah! all tools design for work not just for display
pity you
cammon cosmic we all waiting you pics
Lucky you your girlfriend have a sisters?
It worth
Hopes you OK's

I'm sorry if my previously statement about NWS can hurt somebody feeling
No perfect tools in our world, Each tools has a goods and bad character.. the only near to perfect tools is ours Hands..so take care of your hands.. Safety First!

 

[lok]

My favorite is the waterpump pliers. I also like the universal pliers, they're well made and the design is very effective. Also the good feature is they always open/close flawlessly : easy to manipulate with only one hand.
I wouldn't recommande the front side pliers, they're not made from vanadium then i find them too fragile to cut very hard steel or piano. Knipex have a better high leverage front side cutter.

Thanks for the info Automatique.
Do you think those with titan finish have the same resistant to rust as the chrome plated?





Hey guys. Look what I have for you.

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[mrtools]

When the European meets Asian all task done smoothly

Hopefully you all love those PICS it one of my task done at our Industrial Effluent Treatment Plan

 

[Monte]

Hmm if only it was Swiss...

the swiss know where they can get good scissors

Too bad this was all the tools it came with...

How many Jag owner wrench on their cars....?

Meanwhile in America he plays with it for a minute says he doesn't want it and would like legos instead... So I have a new drill bit holder.

yeah Lego is cooler !!

Of cause it work!! and It one of my favorite pliers

Thanks for your compliment about Smart case + foam

how did you cut it ? Blue or black foam would look nice

It looks very tough in the catalog pics, a ideal thickness of socket set case. I'm guess something about 2- 2.5mm but when I got it a thickness not satisfied my desired..
Btw:thanks for the catalog pics

come´on you want a 1 cm thick case to be satisfied
but thats to expensive and heavy

Awesome!!
Made in Germany, at Soligen?

i guess yes

Hey guys. Look what I have for you.

cool looking "Odür-Fit" "shear-pliers"
www.duerholt-zangen.de

where did you find it ?

When the European meets Asian all task done smoothly

Hopefully you all love those PICS it one of my task done at our Industrial Effluent Treatment Plan

thanks for the "action" pics !!!!
awesome !!!



btw. take care of your hands.... found this winter work gloves at the local Aldi store
the "Thinsulate" stuff is really good

 

[lok]

cool looking "Odür-Fit" "shear-pliers"
www.duerholt-zangen.de

where did you find it ?
[/URL]

I found it at the local gedore dealer. Soon I'll go again to get some new stuff that I had ordered.

 

[north]

*snip*

Hey guys. Look what I have for you.

*snip*

Wow! Beautiful. Did you steal it from the art museum!

 

[bart1]

When the European meets Asian all task done smoothly
...
Hopefully you all love those PICS it one of my task done at our Industrial Effluent Treatment Plan

Great pics, mrtools! I used to work at NTN and have been to several of thier plants and the headquarters in Japan.

 

[Monte]

I found it at the local gedore dealer. Soon I'll go again to get some new stuff that I had ordered.

btw Gedore stuff + pliers:







Gedore pliers set