Tools from the old world

[Ian_]

Does anyone have a cantilever style tool box? Do you like them?

I have been eyeing this http://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?cPath=35_981&products_id=4519

 

[american lockpicker]

That´s the malaysian one.

The more expensive one is the swiss one
(not yet released in USA)
http://www.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/ocs/tools/167866/27295/multi-cutters/gop-300-sce/

btw.: Bosch has a english forum now too:
http://www.bosch-pt.co.uk/professional/community/board/index.phtml

Ok, I'll pass on getting it, also I signed up on that forum as 1590EVSK fanboy.

 

[Monte]

I'm sure Monte have 10 of these and some Supercuts on top for spite but this one is mine, all mine ahhahahahaha...

haha i wish i had
not even 1...... too greedy i borrow my fathers one But a multimaster is on my wishlist, because i don´t like to borrow things, maybe i can find a old model for a cheap price because i think i don´t need it that often, maybe as a delta sander and scraper 3x a year

A super cut would be nice too to remove some windshields every now and then...

Does anyone have a cantilever style tool box? Do you like them?

I have been eyeing this http://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?cPath=35_981&products_id=4519

there was a thread about them:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124664&highlight=facom+cantilever+tool

another:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47393&highlight=facom+cantilever+tool

Ok, I'll pass on getting it, also I signed up on that forum as 1590EVSK fanboy.

yeah i would wait for the swiss one because it has more power, toolless exchangeable blade system , and constant speed feature. Or buy the Fein Super Cut

I guess you will be happy on that forum - only Bosch cheerleaders there B-O-S-C-H yippieh

 

[jalfaro]

Does anyone have a cantilever style tool box? Do you like them?

I have been eyeing this http://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?cPath=35_981&products_id=4519

Hi, currently I do not have a cantilever tool box, I had to choose between HAZET 190L and IRWIN 26" (convecional model) , and choose the IRWIN due to storage capacity.

As for the FACOM model a few months ago I investigated a little and let me tell you it's an excellent choice, in fact very similar to the HAZET 190L. These boxes are sturdy, and feature a clever design that facilitates a great storage capacity.

(I do not know if I can post information from other sites, otherwise please tell me if I can no)

More info:

http://toolguyd.com/facom-cantilever-5-tray-tool-box/
http://toolguyd.com/hazet-190l-cantilever-tool-box-for-135-shipped/

Remember that there are always economic options available and acceptable in case of limited budgets have (or do not need some expensive):

http://toolguyd.com/low-cost-excel-tool-boxes-storage/

In any case there are already other threads dedicated to this subject (as it says MONTE)

 

[unknow82]

I bougth some new tools, Magnetic pick up tool. 1712/3 (new number 1712E/3) 53.2cm long

Handle is funny mixture of old material and new desing, Beta dealer got new ones also, but I think he was glad to get rid of this old one instead of one new kind.

3kg

There is also magnetizer/demagnetizer Beta 1200MS

 

[mrtools]

Well... maybe these old Beta circlip pliers would be nice adition?

Yeahh!! oldskool tools always make me crazy

btw. nice hammer !! I need one too

Great copper hammer
but it a little heavy compare to another brand similar sizes.

"Forum" oil can

Got a Wera screwdriver today.

Can you see a differences when compare it to your Germany made Wera?

These new ones are not marked as "Italy"

Nice

My first post in this thread (and on the board) so I though I would share some of the old world tools from my very small collection.

Welcome to the forum
be careful this forum it not health for your pocket

Old Vessel flat blade (Anyone know approx. what year it's from?)

I guess it produces in early 90s, Where you got it?

Lasertip detail

Nice shot!!

PB Swiss Roll-up
Better than Swiss roll cake
German Made Weras

Awesome!!What your personal opinion about a screwdrivers tips?

Metabo rock drill bits are also very nice - they last and last... I use them in the smaller jobs where electric drill is adequate (sizes 25 & 30mm).

Very nice "tools in action pics" with awesome garden landscape
btw: thanks to share an awesome pics

I recently used the Israeli made thread restorer tool for the first time. I had to thread chase the pressure screw on my smaller 3-jaw puller. I had attached a socket on the end of the pressure screw to aid in the pulling task at hand. I was able to get the job done; however, the socket was not removeable. I had to get the angle grinder out to cut the ******* in two peices. In that cutting process I mangled the threads slightly. It didn't look that bad, but it was buggered up enough to bind. So, out came the NES thread restorer to clean the thread up. The process was simple, painless, fast, and most importantly, works.

Nice plastic surgery pics thanks to share :
Doctor = Israeli
Medic. Asst. = Germany
Injure Patient = USA
Victim = maybe Taiwanese

I bougth some new tools, Magnetic pick up tool. 1712/3 (new number 1712E/3) 53.2cm long
Handle is funny mixture of old material and new desing, Beta dealer got new ones also, but I think he was glad to get rid of this old one instead of one new kind.
3kg
There is also magnetizer/demagnetizer Beta 1200MS

Great!!
No COO?

 

[mrtools]

Old.. JIS precision spirit level

 

[unknow82]

Man I want one of those NES thread restorers.

Will one these work? (you find similar from Biltema, but not with this name)

Belzer Renova 1450 D

It has be in family as long as anyone remember, so it safe to say it is before 1960's.

Peech wood box is original, it even has very little left from original paper that was glued inside cover. My father remembered that box is original, but does not remember original color of box, I'll have to sand it down to see, what color is original.
I regulary use these thread restorers, very usefull tool.

There is actually funny story behin these;
In primary school I was working something and acidently damage threads from bolt. Theacher was very upset from this.
So I ask from him: "Where do you keep thread restorer here?"
And he reply: "say, what?" as he was never heard that kind of tool.
I had, as I got one these sets in home.

 

[jalfaro]

I bougth some new tools, Magnetic pick up tool. 1712/3 (new number 1712E/3) 53.2cm long

Handle is funny mixture of old material and new desing, Beta dealer got new ones also, but I think he was glad to get rid of this old one instead of one new kind.

3kg

There is also magnetizer/demagnetizer Beta 1200MS

Nice design and style

Unknow82, excuse the ignorance, is "3Kg" indicates the weight carried by the pick up tool?

 

[north]

Will one these work? (you find similar from Biltema, but not with this name)

*snip*.

Nice! Might go for a Biltema version for now but still want a NES.

 

[unknow82]

Unknow82, excuse the ignorance, is "3Kg" indicates the weight carried by the pick up tool?

Yes it does. I would guess it is solid material weigth of 3kg.

Nice! Might go for a Biltema version for now but still want a NES.

Bauhaus also sells Matador version, if Biltema is too cheap.

 

[american lockpicker]

Can you see a differences when compare it to your Germany made Wera?

Yea the German is slightly better made. For example the shaft is more polished and soft green material has less defects in it on earlier German made one. Of course you have to examine them closely to notice.

 

[north]

*snip*
Bauhaus also sells Matador version, if Biltema is too cheap.

Only 450 km to the nearest Bauhaus. I'm off...

 

[superautobacs]

yeah quite heavy, 1 kilo with a small head, got it for 6 euro-bucks so i didn´t think much about usage yet A soft face hammer but with more "power" might be useful one day if space is limited. Also a lead hammer usually comes with this type of wheel to remove the spinner, my hammer is gone so i can use my new one for this task for example.

Ah hah! Your Monte is going to get some dayton wire wheels aren't they.

can you make autopsy pics of your other sockets too ?

Sure, with my nepros sockets!

ps: Looks like a taiwanese socket

You guessed right. Looks like a typical, mass-produced socket doesn't it. It's a Craftsman (Canada) socket made by Stanley Taiwan.

Nice plastic surgery pics thanks to share :
Doctor = Israeli
Medic. Asst. = Germany
Injure Patient = USA
Victim = maybe Taiwanese

Indeed, the evil was Taiwanese.

Yea the German is slightly better made. For example the shaft is more polished and soft green material has less defects in it on earlier German made one. Of course you have to examine them closely to notice.

A couple years ago I compared a Kraftform handle side by side. The differences are so slight that it's negligible; they still function as screwdrivers.


Unknow82,

Your heirloom thread restorer in the box is so cool. Thanks for sharing.

North,

How much does the NES tool cost over there?

 

[jalfaro]

Two days ago I went to an auto parts store, and called my attention to a rack of tools Tramontina PRO. Before I heard about this line (PRO), however I did not know their quality, so I bought a screwdriver ($3.5) to prove it with a cheap Tramontina ($1) I bought 3 years ago for home repairs.

Some conclusions:

-Both versions are economic
- Both have a plastic handle, the handle of Tramontina PRO is slightly more ergonomic, however, both have the disadvantage that it does not provide much grip if your hands are not dry
- The Tramontina PRO has a cap (twister) to turn it on the palms of the hands, which is very useful, even when used with one hand. Maybe this is the only remarkable feature.
- With respect to the tip and the bar, both are similar in that they can rust quickly , although the tip provides acceptable resistance in terms of use

In short, I think the Tramontina PRO screwdrivers not provide much advantage over its cheaper version, this disappoints me a bit because I have high expectations. And although we must be aware that both are extremely cheap, there are other brands for the same price for the PRO version provide a better value.

In the next, I'll buy the versions that have the handle with rubber, and possibly some sockets and wrenches to perform a comparative

 

[north]

*snip*

North,

How much does the NES tool cost over there?

I've found it at NOK 738 for the A1 version at a norwegian dealer. Add maybe NOK 150 for shipping. So around $120 + $25.

 

[superautobacs]

I've found it at NOK 738 for the A1 version at a norwegian dealer. Add maybe NOK 150 for shipping. So around $120 + $25.

Those prices are
I'd be at those prices.
In comparison, I got mine for 65 NOK out the door.
Maybe we can arrange something.



Jalfaro,

Do you know if all the Tramontina tools with "Brazil" on the tools are really made in Brazil?

 

[jalfaro]

Jalfaro,

Do you know if all the Tramontina tools with "Brazil" on the tools are really made in Brazil?

That's the same question I asked myself after comparing screwdrivers, according to the store where I bought the screwdriver (is an authorized distributor of the brand, and even is registered on the website of Tramontina) hand tools are manufactured in Brazil. On the other hand, wrote a commentary to the company, but have not answered.

In general, the screwdriver is not a bad product, it may be that had higher expectations of this line of products however, it would be premature to judge its quality just because of a screwdriver (as I said, it may be that I had a wrong perception). So, I would buy other products of the line PRO to analyze further.

 

[superautobacs]

*snip
On the other hand, wrote a commentary to the company, but have not answered.

That's too bad. Maybe contact them again.
I don't like deceptive marketing.





Here's what a Hazet sales van in Japan looks like.
I could spend an entire afternoon in there.

 

[american lockpicker]

Who is that cute asian girl?

 

[littletoes]

Man, Like to see a Hazet truck running around here. Looks like some cool tools!

 

[unknow82]

That would be funny if German car producers would start to print a cat size leters side of the car "Made In Germany", but in this case I suspect that van has not seen Germany...
(yes, dry humor)

 

[TonyCH]

Cool cart on the rear door of the van!

Oh, BTW...look what I bought few days ago:

Needs cleaning but is quite ok

 

[Monte]

Edit: Got the pics up.

Thanks for sharing the pics with us !!! Looks good ! The complete set !!

Nice plastic surgery pics thanks to share :
Doctor = Israeli
Medic. Asst. = Germany
Injure Patient = USA
Victim = maybe Taiwanese

Old.. JIS precision spirit level

nice ! You always have the coolest measuring tools !!
What does the "10 sec" (10 seconds ?) mean on the level ?

The Mahr height measuring tool looks nice too ! coo ?

Belzer Renova 1450 D

wow that´s a uber cool set !!!! Even with box ! Nice !!!!

It has be in family as long as anyone remember, so it safe to say it is before 1960's.

if i can see it right the tool says "D.R.G.M." which means "Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster" (German Reich patent) so that means it is from 1945 or earlier !

There is actually funny story behin these;

i guess there are many people who never heard of such a tool

Nice! Might go for a Biltema version for now but still want a NES.

maybe an option: ?



btw. thread files: Facom with favourable coo

Ah hah! Your Monte is going to get some dayton wire wheels aren't they.

yes, or maybe some cheaper copies .....
would hurt my wallet and soul too much if i hit a curb....

Sure, with my nepros sockets!

hey that would be cool !! Thanks

You guessed right. Looks like a typical, mass-produced socket doesn't it. It's a Craftsman (Canada) socket made by Stanley Taiwan.

Two days ago I went to an auto parts store, and called my attention to a rack of tools Tramontina PRO.

interesting exotic tools !!

some links for the readers

www.tramontina.com.br

www.tramontinapro.com.br

Here's what a Hazet sales van in Japan looks like.

Honey, I shrunk the van


Looks nice, but i prefer to go to a store where i can look around as long as i want whenever i want and without the bad feel if i don´t buy anything. To call the dealer and visit the truck several times a week without buying anything wouldn´t work out for a long time i guess

Who is that cute asian girl?

The driver ?

That would be funny if German car producers would start to print a cat size leters side of the car "Made In Germany", but in this case I suspect that van has not seen Germany...
(yes, dry humor)

maybe in the future when every car looks like the same, like driving electro-eggs

Cool cart on the rear door of the van!

Oh, BTW...look what I bought few days ago:

Needs cleaning but is quite ok

very nice !!!!!! How much ???

Jalfaro,
Do you know if all the Tramontina tools with "Brazil" on the tools are really made in Brazil?

found a vid on youtube
Looks like they produce some things, the amount of automatization in the factory looks like the video is at least not from china.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kv7-r7ekICc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[north]

*snip*
maybe an option: ?

*snip*

Sure. Same principle as the NES I guess? Have any for €10?

 

[jalfaro]

...

interesting exotic tools !!

some links for the readers

www.tramontina.com.br

www.tramontinapro.com.br

...

found a vid on youtube
Looks like they produce some things, the amount of automatization in the factory looks like the video is at least not from china.

...

Thanks for sharing the info Monte. Interesting video. I'll buy some other PRO line tools to test

 

[TonyCH]

very nice !!!!!! How much ???

Not that bad, like 2 tanks of diesel ie. nothing like they are paying in USA. I am trying to buy another one locally. Lets see how it goes.

 

[ricleh]

nice ! You always have the coolest measuring tools !!
What does the "10 sec" (10 seconds ?) mean on the level ?

I believe it is an arc measurement
Wikipedia

 

[AutomatiquE]

New arrivals. NOS Facom 410 "Soft touch pipe pliers" and short Pozidriv driver.





Sorry for the crappy pic, handles say "Facom isoryl 8000 volts".


In action

 

[unknow82]

Cool cart on the rear door of the van!

Oh, BTW...look what I bought few days ago:

Needs cleaning but is quite ok

Where did you find that one? Really nice, I have be looking one those for some time.

if i can see it right the tool says "D.R.G.M." which means "Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster" (German Reich patent) so that means it is from 1945 or earlier !

Yes of course! That Belzer thread restorer has to from this comppany. Note the year from rigth top corner. Isn't that year when V8 came to pasanger cars?

It reads:
New
Ford V8
And better four cylinder automobil range
Please visit today our saleroom to find more about.
A.B.Traktor

 

[Monte]

Sure. Same principle as the NES I guess? Have any for €10?

Hazet = NES Threadmate
http://www.nes.co.il/158905/ThreadMate

for 10€ ? yes ! For 3 convenient rates of 10€ each you can have it

Thanks for sharing the info Monte. Interesting video. I'll buy some other PRO line tools to test

from a Tramontina brochure:

Not that bad, like 2 tanks of diesel ie. nothing like they are paying in USA. I am trying to buy another one locally. Lets see how it goes.

now i need to know how big your tank is ?

I believe it is an arc measurement
Wikipedia

ahhh ok So the accuracy of the level is 10 seconds of an arc ?

New arrivals. NOS Facom 410 "Soft touch pipe pliers" and short Pozidriv driver.

nice looking tools ! The pliers handles are cool

Yes of course! That Belzer thread restorer has to from this comppany.

So your (grand)father bought the set there ?

Note the year from rigth top corner.
Isn't that year when V8 came to pasanger cars?

maybe already in 1914 ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V8_engine

 

[unknow82]

So your (grand)father bought the set there ?

That comppany is long gone and generally most used tools in my area came from there when it went bankruptcy. No private person could afford tools like that, that time.

 

[american lockpicker]

btw. thread files: Facom with favourable coo

New arrivals. NOS Facom 410 "Soft touch pipe pliers" and short Pozidriv driver.

Nice French Facom.

The driver ?

Interesting Someone should invite her to this thread.

I got some old world stuff today and a tool that was designed by a Dane but made in America.

I think this was the last year they put out quality stuff.

 

[ricleh]

ahhh ok So the accuracy of the level is 10 seconds of an arc ?

Yes. 10 second accuracy is typical for a master precision level. That is equivalent to .0005 inches per foot or .004mm per meter. Pretty damn precise.

 

[Bhae]

Today:

 

[Monte]

That comppany is long gone and generally most used tools in my area came from there when it went bankruptcy. No private person could afford tools like that, that time.

do you have old catalogs from that company ?

Interesting Someone should invite her to this thread.

Don´t have her phone number ...

I got some old world stuff today and a tool that was designed by a Dane but made in America.

What are "Bobbins" ?

Yes. 10 second accuracy is typical for a master precision level. That is equivalent to .0005 inches per foot or .004mm per meter. Pretty damn precise.

ah ok thanks ! Good to know ! Now i need one


@Bhae:

nice wrench roll !!
ps: is the spring compressor TÜV approved ?

How much for the Licota magnetic holder ?





Fein MSfv 649 angle grinder from a garage buddy

 

[unknow82]

do you have old catalogs from that company ?

No, but I do know one old catalog, or cards, like all catalogs used to be. Box of these card is for sale, but I have not ask, for how much.

 

[Monte]

No, but I do know one old catalog, or cards, like all catalogs used to be. Box of these card is for sale, but I have not ask, for how much.

if old tools are featured please buy it







New tools for 2012:

KNIPEX TwinForce high leverage side cutter (part# 73 72 180)

"2Face" 2 sided flap wheel from Ucer

http://www.ucer.com.tr/en/2-face.asp

 

[Bhae]

@Monte:

Are you going to?: http://www.eisenwarenmesse.com/en/iem/home/index.php

 

[OUTRIGGER]

Britool & Steadfast screw-drivers - dating back to 1965.

Footprint made some good stuff, ISTYR went under about 2/3 years ago.

Blackadised bars , by Proto & Sykes Pickavant

Just a few of the ratchets