Tools from the old world

[TjoFrasse]

Anyone have experience deal with TBS Acchen Werkzeughandel maybe I need to purchase something from them. That no English version for the website,they ship worldwide? tried to browse...but I don't understand Dutch

I have ordered from them many times. And have only good things to say about them. Their shipping rates to Sweden are VERY good (€10), they're fast and have good prices.

I use the page with my limited German vocabulary and Google Translate. I have found that they can answer e-mails in English also. It seems that they only ship within the EU though, at least it is only those countries listen on the shipping costs page:
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Information/7/versandkosten.htm

 

[willhollin]

Viewing the page through Google Chrome with the translator works pretty well!

 

[d.stole]

This screwdriver set is the worst set of tools I have ever used for a work:

http://www.flonartech.cz/flonartech/eshop/0/0/5/43-sada-sroubovaku-Stanley

the small flat one looks like hard abused and bent a little after 10 screws, PH2 was unusable after cca 5 screws. I can't imagine bigger sh*t in my hands

So cheap... What did you expected?

They sell that set in the US as well it is super cheap, not worth the 10 dollars price.

As I said, on link above it's about 4,6 eur (cca 6$).

 

[lok]

common it's just a pics

I haven't forget. The next time that I'll see it, I'll take a photo for you.

wow. After the joker from wera, we have the ******* from knipex and nws

 

[lok]

ok here

Only these? Monte I think you need more.

Ok two thinks. The Hazet and the Facom are absolutely perfect. I wish i could have both but now it's impossible. Between those two I choose the Hazet for No1 cause of the offset between the handle and the head (well, I hope you know what i mean).
The koken is nice but huge. I think it's 3/8 right? I also believe that this kind of ratchet must have a round handle. But I like it.
For the tone i can't say something. I haven't seen them before, i haven't read anything about them. The only that i can say is that from the photo they looks uglier even from gedore.
The gedore.. Monte, why are you put the gedore next to snap on?
If Ι could have as many ratchets i like, I definitely would choose the u10 1/4 and the U10 aluminum with 1/2 and 3/8 drive . Very nice ratchets for general use and super smooth. Well maybe some day...
This is the first time that I see snap on in the middle of so many European ratchet. Ok i like them. Maybe I like them more, if the finish was better. I mean if the finish was not so perfect. Is these the dual 80?
And of cοurse the carolus. How do you like this one Monte? The handle has this very nice feature. I hope to see it also to the gedore ratchet some day.

Beautiful ratchets monte. Congratulation.
I think this photo is very nice for desktop background.

Schroder Midibox bit set made out of 73Mov52 steel with "Hicrom" coating (70 HRC hardness) www.robert-schroeder.de

Nice set. Looks very high quality.

 

[jalfaro]

Schroder Midibox bit set made out of 73Mov52 steel with "Hicrom" coating (70 HRC hardness) www.robert-schroeder.de

Nice set Monte

It is difficult to see this kind of set made ​​somewhere other than Taiwan.

And I clarify, I do not complain of those who are made ​​in Taiwan, I have a set of brand METABO and is of very good quality

 

[Phobo]

Originally Posted by mrtools View Post
Anyone have experience deal with TBS Acchen Werkzeughandel maybe I need to purchase something from them.

ordered 3-4times it always worked well. They have a huge range of tools from all the big names. Prices are ok but mostly you get also the same price somewhere else. I ordered there because they have so many different items so that I can shop everything in one order.

 

[CoSnipe]

Explain please?

 

[franzdom]

Explain please?

It's NWS grips on a Knipex tool that happens to be better than the NWS equivalent.

 

[TjoFrasse]

i hope you dont discover the "The Green Snap-on Tools...." thread if you like green

Yeah, I have no Snap On items but that thread is nice. A bit too much shiny though

So, back from the store. No super deals had come in, but still I spent 570:- SEK. So what did I get?
6" chrome Bahco adjustable. Made in Sweden.

8" chrome wide gap Bahco adjustable. Made in Sweden.

Bahco plier. I don't know the english name... Here we call them "Nut pliers".
Strangely they're marked "SWEDEN", but the package says "Made in France". All the other ones did not have the "SWEDEN" marking, this was the only one with it. Wondering if it is a misprint on the tool or packaging.

Bahco (Öberg) square coarse file and a extra handle. Made in Portugal.

Bahco 1/2" sliding T-handle. Only Argentina made item I have ever seen marked "Made in Argentina".

Bahco carpet knife. For being a upper level model, I was a bit disappointed in it. Plastic "trigger", and the buttons are sloppy. Nice big handle though, most ones are too small.

 

[CoSnipe]

It's NWS grips on a Knipex tool that happens to be better than the NWS equivalent.

Yes I got that, was wondering if they sell the grips seperate so others can do the same. Didn't know if the pic was faked or legit. Or even why this was done.

 

[Monte]

one of them is just for spare tools and collection, example? monte!

hey i need all of my tools ! ....Later......one day .....somehow....

Anyone have experience deal with TBS Acchen Werkzeughandel maybe I need to purchase something from them. That no English version for the website,they ship worldwide? tried to browse...but I don't understand Dutch

they only list european destinations

Hey the new NWS pliers wrench looks almost like the Knipex version

(Looks almost as good as the original )
I like blue/red

Only these? Monte I think you need more.

i know i know i think so too
stay tuned.....
i think at least one important brand is missing

Ok two thinks. The Hazet and the Facom are absolutely perfect. I wish i could have both but now it's impossible. Between those two I choose the Hazet for No1 cause of the offset between the handle and the head (well, I hope you know what i mean).

yes i know finger clearance
the last 2 ones in the world :
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hazet-916F-1...2075?pt=Kfz_Handwerkzeuge&hash=item5892a978bb

The koken is nice but huge. I think it's 3/8 right? I also believe that this kind of ratchet must have a round handle. But I like it.

yeah right 3/8" yes quite big, bigger than the Zyklop. The handle is ok japan style the new ones have a rounder handle.

For the tone i can't say something. I haven't seen them before, i haven't read anything about them. The only that i can say is that from the photo they looks uglier even from gedore.

what !!! Gedore ugly ???
The handles are quite comfortable for metal handles and the flat beam is practical because you can put your thumb on. The ratcheting is not as smooth as the Gedores, but close. cheap from the flea market.....

The gedore.. Monte, why are you put the gedore next to snap on?

german Snap-On

If Ι could have as many ratchets i like, I definitely would choose the u10 1/4 and the U10 aluminum with 1/2 and 3/8 drive . Very nice ratchets for general use and super smooth. Well maybe some day...

yeah the Gedores are a must you´re still young.....

This is the first time that I see snap on in the middle of so many European ratchet. Ok i like them. Maybe I like them more, if the finish was better. I mean if the finish was not so perfect. Is these the dual 80?

Gedore finish ?
Mat snap-on ratchets....that would be a idea....maybe then they could sell some over here
these are the older 36 tooth "936" series ratchets. Don´t use these often since the ratcheting is coarse and rough...... prefer 72 tooth all day.... Hazet......

And of cοurse the carolus. How do you like this one Monte? The handle has this very nice feature. I hope to see it also to the gedore ratchet some day.

the ratcheting is a bit rough and the head a bit sloppy (head can be removed). The handle was (still is ?) made in germany, head from Taiwan. But i think the overall idea is nice especially if you have this set:

Beautiful ratchets monte. Congratulation.
I think this photo is very nice for desktop background.

good idea !

Nice set. Looks very high quality.

even higher quality with a different brand name

Nice set Monte
It is difficult to see this kind of set made ​​somewhere other than Taiwan.
And I clarify, I do not complain of those who are made ​​in Taiwan, I have a set of brand METABO and is of very good quality

yeah mostly Taiwan or PRC made usually from 9.95 to 19.95 priced. But i thought i should get this one for 12.95 + tax
My father has something like the Metabo set but from Bosch (China) - seems to work too. Sometimes the bit holders seems to be not that good though (compared to Wera...)

Bahco plier. I don't know the english name... Here we call them "Nut pliers".
Strangely they're marked "SWEDEN", but the package says "Made in France". All the other ones did not have the "SWEDEN" marking, this was the only one with it. Wondering if it is a misprint on the tool or packaging.

never saw something like this over here ! Nice !
Maybe old pliers + new package ?






Voltage tester/mains tester made by HKR www.hkr-werkzeuge.de




electricity !

 

[ash95608]

Yes I got that, was wondering if they sell the grips seperate so others can do the same. Didn't know if the pic was faked or legit. Or even why this was done.

The picture is legit, I gave him a set of extra handles that I had.

 

[archirelic]

Here's my explanation guys:

Haha! One of my rather ornery cats had gotten ahold of my Knipex pliers wrench and proceeded to chew the vinyl grips up a bit. I had those extra red/gray/black 3k handles from Ash and so I simply put them in place of the vinyl grips after removing the remaining portion.

 

[Jure]

electricity !

i need something like that (in some color),few weeks ago i took transparent SCREWDRIVER and stabbed it in electric outlet,my father was like "are you ******* sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk????????????????" i was like what?? he said "its screwdriver not voltage tester" lol i took cheap chinese screwdriver with metal cap,it used to look same as my LUX vtester,i had some luck so i stabbed it in "null"

it was like this but had metal top...

 

[d.stole]

i need something like that (in some color),few weeks ago i took transparent SCREWDRIVER and stabbed it in electric outlet,my father was like "are you ******* sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk????????????????" i was like what?? he said "its screwdriver not voltage tester" lol i took cheap chinese screwdriver with metal cap,it used to look same as my LUX vtester,i had some luck so i stabbed it in "null"

it was like this but had metal top...

That was hilarious.

Try to find one of these. About 2,5eur.

 

[Jure]

That was hilarious.

Try to find one of these. About 2,5eur.

y i will take some,pretty sure that i have seen them before in one local store

 

[Monte]

i need something like that (in some color),few weeks ago i took transparent SCREWDRIVER and stabbed it in electric outlet,my father was like "are you ******* sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk????????????????" i was like what?? he said "its screwdriver not voltage tester" lol i took cheap chinese screwdriver with metal cap,it used to look same as my LUX vtester,i had some luck so i stabbed it in "null"

oh boy what are you doing !!?? Don´t kill yourself
At least send me your tools first

That was hilarious.

Try to find one of these. About 2,5eur.

Thanks ! now i know where Gedore buys their screwdrivers

 

[Jure]

oh boy what are you doing !!?? Don´t kill yourself
At least send me your tools first

lol i was so tired...so i tought that i took my LUX tester lol. hahahahhah can you cover the postage??

 

[Jure]

who makes them?? gerode,unior testers

 

[arnwoodwheels]

Yeah, I have no Snap On items but that thread is nice. A bit too much shiny though

So, back from the store. No super deals had come in, but still I spent 570:- SEK. So what did I get?


Bahco plier. I don't know the english name... Here we call them "Nut pliers".
Strangely they're marked "SWEDEN", but the package says "Made in France". All the other ones did not have the "SWEDEN" marking, this was the only one with it. Wondering if it is a misprint on the tool or packaging.

I never seen a plier like that before?
I dont get it. Whats it used for. Looks cool though.
Ron

 

[mrtools]

I have ordered from them many times. And have only good things to say about them. Their shipping rates to Sweden are VERY good (€10), they're fast and have good prices.
I use the page with my limited German vocabulary and Google Translate. I have found that they can answer e-mails in English also. It seems that they only ship within the EU though, at least it is only those countries listen on the shipping costs page:
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Information/7/versandkosten.htm

Thanks for the link and to share your good experience with TBS...I see they only ship within EU..
they don't reply my email maybe my English too bad
I'm interested with their Gedore prices
any suggestion, alternative online stores?

Viewing the page through Google Chrome with the translator works pretty well!

Tried it and it works!
Thanks!!!

ordered 3-4times it always worked well. They have a huge range of tools from all the big names. Prices are ok but mostly you get also the same price somewhere else. I ordered there because they have so many different items so that I can shop everything in one order.

You are so lucky live in Europe...
Do you know where I can purchase Gedore tools with the same prices and they can ship worldwide?

they only list european destinations

any alternative online shop + ways to purchase Gedore tools + worldwide shipping
tried to get a prices from my local tools shop but the prices too high it's about 2 times of TBS prices

Voltage tester/mains tester made by HKR www.hkr-werkzeuge.de
electricity !

nice "tools in action" pics

I haven't forget. The next time that I'll see it, I'll take a photo for you.

Thanks buddy

On
Beautiful ratchets monte. Congratulation.
I think this photo is very nice for desktop background.

many of Monte tools pics already in my desktop for a year,
without monte permission Sshh..Ssshhhhhh......

It's NWS grips on a Knipex tool that happens to be better than the NWS equivalent.

Awesome transformation!!!!!!!:

So, back from the store. No super deals had come in, but still I spent 570:- SEK.

nice Bahco stuff

 

[lok]

i know i know i think so too
stay tuned.....
i think at least one important brand is missing

Stahlwille right?

yes i know finger clearance
the last 2 ones in the world :
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hazet-916F-1...2075?pt=Kfz_Handwerkzeuge&hash=item5892a978bb

Ah I can't. Sadly i haven't the money. Maybe i buy the 3/8 dr later. The new one is also very nice but the head is too bulky. Especially to the 1/4 dr. At least that's how they looks like from the photos. Also the upper part of the old has better design (palm control) and the selector have better place and it's easier to use it. I have worked with a ratchet which had the same selector with new hazet. All these along with the finger clearance of the older makes them unique. The new has better design in the handle though.

yeah right 3/8" yes quite big, bigger than the Zyklop. The handle is ok japan style the new ones have a rounder handle.

I haven't see the new one. Thanks. Maybe the only ratchet that i would like to have from koken.

what !!! Gedore ugly ???
The handles are quite comfortable for metal handles and the flat beam is practical because you can put your thumb on. The ratcheting is not as smooth as the Gedores, but close. cheap from the flea market.....

Someone had said that they are ugly until you work with them. Do you know him?
Thanks for the info for the tone ratchets.

german Snap-On

lol.. yea.

yeah the Gedores are a must you´re still young.....

Too many tools are "mast have". Including those who haven't released yet.

Gedore finish ?
Mat snap-on ratchets....that would be a idea....maybe then they could sell some over here
these are the older 36 tooth "936" series ratchets. Don´t use these often since the ratcheting is coarse and rough...... prefer 72 tooth all day.... Hazet......

Yes 72 tooth is the best deal i think. 60 is the minimum that i like.
Mat snap-on yes. The day of their release i will be baned from this forum.

the ratcheting is a bit rough and the head a bit sloppy (head can be removed). The handle was (still is ?) made in germany, head from Taiwan. But i think the overall idea is nice especially if you have this set:

Also it is nice for a bike collection. Thanks for the info.

even higher quality with a different brand name

Yeah stahwille. My gedore distributor used to had also stahlwille tools. But not anymore.

Voltage tester/mains tester made by HKR www.hkr-werkzeuge.de

With the grounding on the side. Very nice.

Thanks ! now i know where Gedore buys their screwdrivers

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who makes them?? gerode,unior testers

If one of these two manufactures made them then it's the unior. The tools hasn't' the made in germany.

many of Monte tools pics already in my desktop for a year,
without monte permission Sshh..Ssshhhhhh......
:

Mine has also a new background now.

Here what replaced.

 

[north]

Dang, that's a cool looking bike!

 

[Bhae]

 

[shoturtle]

I really like those torx ball wiha keys. They work great.

 

[Monte]

lol i was so tired...so i tought that i took my LUX tester lol. hahahahhah can you cover the postage??

yeah no problem i pick everything up personally

who makes them?? gerode,unior testers

i think Unior. The regular Gedore screwdriver coo is slovenia.

any alternative online shop + ways to purchase Gedore tools + worldwide shipping
tried to get a prices from my local tools shop but the prices too high it's about 2 times of TBS prices

2 times

there are several online stores but i don´t know if they ship worldwide

http://gedore-werkzeugshop.de/
http://www.svh24.de/Hersteller/GEDORE-253.htm
http://www.tooltrolley.co.uk/manufacturers/gedore-293/
http://www.handwerker-versand.de/
http://www.werkzeughandel-roeder.de/
http://www.shop-seltmann.de/Hersteller/Gedore-9.htm
http://www.siebershop.de/catalog/index.php
www.tecgedore.eu
http://www.handwerkzeuge-online.de/index.php?k=1034
http://www.weltweitwerkzeug.net/gedore/
http://www.profi-werkzeug.com/

nice "tools in action" pics

many of Monte tools pics already in my desktop for a year,
without monte permission Sshh..Ssshhhhhh......

some Stahlwille screwdrivers:

 

[Dillithium]

Yeah, I have no Snap On items but that thread is nice. A bit too much shiny though

So, back from the store. No super deals had come in, but still I spent 570:- SEK. So what did I get?


Bahco plier. I don't know the english name... Here we call them "Nut pliers".
Strangely they're marked "SWEDEN", but the package says "Made in France". All the other ones did not have the "SWEDEN" marking, this was the only one with it. Wondering if it is a misprint on the tool or packaging.

I never seen a plier like that before?
I dont get it. Whats it used for. Looks cool though.
Ron

It's hard to explain, but it has a very firm grip on small nuts/items.
Once you've used it, you'll want one.
I just didn't know Bahco made them, I've been looking for one for a while now but I didn't know they were still made, it's kind of an old tool.
I'll have to run out tomorrow morning and see if my local store has one, though I hate the orange.

thanks for posting that purchase!

 

[Monte]

Stahlwille right?

lok my brother
they have some nice fine tooth ratchets

Ah I can't. Sadly i haven't the money. Maybe i buy the 3/8 dr later. The new one is also very nice but the head is too bulky. Especially to the 1/4 dr. At least that's how they looks like from the photos. Also the upper part of the old has better design (palm control) and the selector have better place and it's easier to use it. I have worked with a ratchet which had the same selector with new hazet. All these along with the finger clearance of the older makes them unique. The new has better design in the handle though.

yeah the old Hazet fine tooth ratchets are nice, but you have to hurry up if you want one But in reality i think one ratchet per drive size is enough... so don´t worry or just wait maybe the next Hazet fine tooth ratchet will be even better or Gedore makes one with palm control..... just wait

I haven't see the new one. Thanks. Maybe the only ratchet that i would like to have from koken.

it´s ok, but Snap-On makes a nice one with 100 teeth

Someone had said that they are ugly until you work with them. Do you know him?
Thanks for the info for the tone ratchets.

Lol it wasn´t me ??
if you like fat chicks then you also like Gedore
no just kidding, Gedore is nice

Too many tools are "mast have". Including those who haven't released yet.

yeah that´s the problem that they always have to make new tools...

Yes 72 tooth is the best deal i think. 60 is the minimum that i like.
Mat snap-on yes. The day of their release i will be baned from this forum.

the Gedore 60 tooth are nice....
just buy a sand blaster so you can make your own mat snap-on tools

Also it is nice for a bike collection. Thanks for the info.

bicycle tool set ! Very good idea ! i think i need a set

Yeah stahwille. My gedore distributor used to had also stahlwille tools. But not anymore.

Gedore is good too

With the grounding on the side. Very nice.

ahh there it is

Mine has also a new background now.

what ?

.

nice tool haul !!
ahhhh vietnamese pliers

 

[shoturtle]

You missed the 3rd end cap from wera. That you can put in an extension or ratchet on the chisel driver.

But how do the felo compare to a wiha?

The hand torque is kinda not a great test. If you need that much torque on a screwdriver. I would honestly put a wrench with a screwdriver with the wrench fitting. The press down on the end as I crank the wrench.

 

[shoturtle]

Here is the 3rd wera chisel end cap that accepts 1/4 dr extension and ratchets.

 

[ash95608]

You missed the 3rd end cap from wera. That you can put in an extension or ratchet on the chisel driver.

But how do the felo compare to a wiha?

The hand torque is kinda not a great test. If you need that much torque on a screwdriver. I would honestly put a wrench with a screwdriver with the wrench fitting. The press down on the end as I crank the wrench.

I have compared felo to wiha as well, and the handles on the Felo are the most comfortable out of all the screwdrivers I have compared. The torque test is more meant to show how much more traction you can get not necessarily how much more torque is being applied.

 

[ash95608]

Here is the 3rd wera chisel end cap that accepts 1/4 dr extension and ratchets.

Actually if you look at the video those are in the back to the left in the box, the video was getting to long so I didn't pull them out. I literally have purchased all the german brand screwdrivers to see which has the best features and comfort.

 

[shoturtle]

Did you try the torque test with holding the screw drivers with the facing the other way. That most do when they really want to apply allot of force? And see how the handle felt?

 

[ash95608]

Did you try the torque test with holding the screw drivers with the facing the other way. That most do when they really want to apply allot of force? And see how the handle felt?

Yes I did, and the result where the same. The way I was doing it was so you can see it better in the video. I'm sure everyone has there own opinion on what they like and what works better for them but these were real test results not a gimmick or anything like that. Before I sell anything I do lots of testing and try them out myself so I can offer what works the best. I am not saying Wera is bad they are great and they offer options that Felo doesn't in fact I might be selling Wera as well but the Felo Ergonic handle are the best out there that I have seen.

 

[shoturtle]

I just like to see the test, that is all. As I find that when inverted the high points of the wera fall right into the right area of the hand to really torque a screw loose with my hand. They are a better fit for medium sized hands. Larger hand guys I would say go with the PB Swiss and the falo.

Wiha and wera are form the mid size hand.

 

[ash95608]

I just like to see the test, that is all. As I find that when inverted the high points of the wera fall right into the right area of the hand to really torque a screw loose with my hand. They are a better fit for medium sized hands. Larger hand guys I would say go with the PB Swiss and the falo.

Wiha and wera are form the mid size hand.

Well if you really want a test I will send you a Felo screwdriver and you can try it out yourself and see what you think. pm me your address.

 

[shoturtle]

My future brother in law actually uses falo in his carpenter business in germany. I have used them. That is why I said if you have large hands, falo and pb swiss are the better tool. He has big hands. But for my mid size hands, when I invert them the wera fits better when cranking down on a screw.

The falo are really nice tools, they make an excellency product.

Glad to see that you are selling the in the US. They are really way nicer then what allot consider excellent screw drivers like the snap on and craftsman pros.

 

[ash95608]

My future brother in law actually uses falo in his carpenter business in germany. I have used them. That is why I said if you have large hands, falo and pb swiss are the better tool. He has big hands. But for my mid size hands, when I invert them the wera fits better when cranking down on a screw.

The falo are really nice tools, they make an excellency product.

Glad to see that you are selling the in the US. They are really way nicer then what allot consider excellent screw drivers like the snap on and craftsman pros.

Thanks for your opinions and feed back, I always like to here peoples different opinions and if you did want I can still send you a 3 pcs Ergonic torx set to try out and keep. If not then who ever in the US is the first one to pm me I can send it to them to try and give there opinions.

 

[shoturtle]

Torx you said the magic word to me, I use so many torx. That I can always use some more. I use them daily, most important fastener type for me. PM sent.