Maexle
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yeah you should do that
I've spent months with these "friends", filing - "U-Stahl" and building a vice out of it in my apprenticeship.
Tools from the old world
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I've spent months with these "friends", filing - "U-Stahl" and building a vice out of it in my apprenticeship.
Thank you so much, mac_intosh! Please keep them coming.
By the way, would you know the type of finish on the old ratchets and sockets? The ratchet looks painted or is it zinc or cadmium?
mac_intosh
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You´re right. The tools in the later 240a (from 1933) were "cadmiumated", rustproof (sorry, but the google-translator throws the towel at this, I hope my translations make sense). I think it´s not recommend for good health to lick them...
The finish of other tools were "fine engl. grey marbled", "steel blue", "black painted and dried in the oven in a special process", "fine black", "gloss polished", "atramented", "burnished" and certainly "nickel-chrome plated".
Some say that HAZET was the first company that introduced the nikel-chrome-plating in Europe...
The finish of other tools were "fine engl. grey marbled", "steel blue", "black painted and dried in the oven in a special process", "fine black", "gloss polished", "atramented", "burnished" and certainly "nickel-chrome plated".
Some say that HAZET was the first company that introduced the nikel-chrome-plating in Europe...
mac_intosh
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ah okay.
No, there isn´t a "factory-outlet-store" from HAZET, I´m sorry. That´s not their politics.
But two times a year the "HAZET-World-Wide"-brochure is published with reduced prices and new tools (to download - without prices - at hazet.de/.com).
I think the best offers you can get on the internet anyway but mostly without service as from a dealer with a real store.
GEDORE has an outlet-store at their factory (I don´t want to promote the competitor, but I like to be fair), but I have no idea about the prices there.
No, there isn´t a "factory-outlet-store" from HAZET, I´m sorry. That´s not their politics.
But two times a year the "HAZET-World-Wide"-brochure is published with reduced prices and new tools (to download - without prices - at hazet.de/.com).
I think the best offers you can get on the internet anyway but mostly without service as from a dealer with a real store.
GEDORE has an outlet-store at their factory (I don´t want to promote the competitor, but I like to be fair), but I have no idea about the prices there.
The weekend haul.
Tool cart, as previously mentioned. I'm very pleased with it. The paint is a bit rough, it's very dirty and there's some surface rust but it's in sound condition with very few dings. Right now I'm thinking I'll just give it a really good clean, maybe brush away some of the rust, and perhaps give it a light clear coat to protect it, but keep it looking old-school.
It opens from both sides (the doors drop into the base) and the trays can slide out either side. I'll update if I can find any marks/stamps while cleaning to identify where it was made or by whom.
I didn't get much history off the PO - just that he'd bought it about 10yrs ago off some old boy he used to work with. No other detail offered and I didn't want to get nosey
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It has this lable attached to one end so I assume these may be the guys who sold it:
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On the way home from collecting the cart I stopped briefly at the car boot and grabbed these drivers for £3. The Stanley stubby I bought mostly as a curiousity (never seen one with the little bar through the handle before). The Mac I grabbed for the name -it seems a bit cheap, but the handle is beefy and fits my hand well so it may get some use. The Steadfast is built like a tank and will definitely get put to work, and the Facom (74 series 10mm hollow shaft) -well there was no way I could leave that behind! I did ask if he had any more and he thought he did but we couldn't find them - I'll go again next weekend when I have more time to dig through his boxes.
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Tool cart, as previously mentioned. I'm very pleased with it. The paint is a bit rough, it's very dirty and there's some surface rust but it's in sound condition with very few dings. Right now I'm thinking I'll just give it a really good clean, maybe brush away some of the rust, and perhaps give it a light clear coat to protect it, but keep it looking old-school.
It opens from both sides (the doors drop into the base) and the trays can slide out either side. I'll update if I can find any marks/stamps while cleaning to identify where it was made or by whom.
I didn't get much history off the PO - just that he'd bought it about 10yrs ago off some old boy he used to work with. No other detail offered and I didn't want to get nosey
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It has this lable attached to one end so I assume these may be the guys who sold it:
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On the way home from collecting the cart I stopped briefly at the car boot and grabbed these drivers for £3. The Stanley stubby I bought mostly as a curiousity (never seen one with the little bar through the handle before). The Mac I grabbed for the name -it seems a bit cheap, but the handle is beefy and fits my hand well so it may get some use. The Steadfast is built like a tank and will definitely get put to work, and the Facom (74 series 10mm hollow shaft) -well there was no way I could leave that behind! I did ask if he had any more and he thought he did but we couldn't find them - I'll go again next weekend when I have more time to dig through his boxes.
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Those vises look good, I have also being looking for good vise, but haven't found "the one" yet. As long as I remember, there have been one vise outdoors, I think my grand father had plased it there, maybe I should rescue it...
Wow! Nice haul!
I haven't tried Wera yet. I saw some in a shop, but I couldn't find "Made in Germany" anywhere on the tool, so I didn't dare to buy it. I was afraid that they were German in brand only. Let us know how they are.
I've got a pair of Erdi tin snips and they are EXCELLLENT!!! Identical to the lower pair in your photo.
I'm sure that you're going to enjoy them. They are of the very highest quality.
I haven't tried Wera yet. I saw some in a shop, but I couldn't find "Made in Germany" anywhere on the tool, so I didn't dare to buy it. I was afraid that they were German in brand only. Let us know how they are.
I've got a pair of Erdi tin snips and they are EXCELLLENT!!! Identical to the lower pair in your photo.
I'm sure that you're going to enjoy them. They are of the very highest quality.
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You know, I'm not really happy with my modern Hazet 1/2" drive ratchet. It's got the modern blue and black soft rubber grip and every time I even TOUCH it it becomes smeared with grease. My 3/8 and 1/4 Hazet ratchets are 1980's with a harder black handle marked W. Germany and I like those a lot better. Does anybody have an older black 1/2" ratchet that they would be willing to trade for my brand new one?
No there's definitely no COO marked on them - at least not anywhere obvious. They look and feel good though and I have no doubt they'll perform well -so for £33 for the set (amazon uk) I'm not too worried about where they were actually made
Is it CZ I seem to remember being mentioned?I did want the Wiha hollow shafts to match some of my other drivers but it seems they're not available at all in the UK, and shipping from America makes them ridiculously expensive (IMO).
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Nice choices. Should fit nicely into the drawers of the Ebeka cabinet once it is cleaned up like new.
You bet
When I have time I'll give it a good clean, lube the slides and line the drawers. I'm going to add a wooden worktop and I've just won a small York bullet vice on German ebay for a whopping 2 Euro (+ shipping of course) to mount to it.cool do you still have that vice ?
Monte: This Leinen vise preservation work you have accomplished is not only very impressive; but is also the work for future generations to appreciate. We are in awe!
The Lion (my wife) and I once visited the FZA factory in North-Eastern Italia near Padoua. We were on a quest to find an Italian-made vise called an Ursus. But when we visited the factory, we saw the Leinen type for the first time.I think Leinen Vises were originally made in Germany at Esslingen, and were later moved to Arsego. Do you know if these you have were made in Germany?
Here is the catalogue we still have from that visit...
I have always regretted not trying to bring back that big Leinen vise.I have since learned to always listen to The Lion...
wow nice thanks for the catalog pics !!!!
So you travelled from the US to Italy only to buy a vise ?
Do you have any pics of the factory or the area ?
I don´t know the age of the vise there are no markings etc. no coo. It was attached to a wooden workbench which seemed to be very old so i guess the vice is german made but could be italian too.
ps: the lion queen is always right
Looks almost like a Gedore:
http://www.google.de/imgres?num=10&...2&start=27&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:27,i:206
sometimes the solution of a problem is so close
spot weld drill bit from Müller tools
www.mueller-werkzeug.com
Yeah you mentioned before, and I've looked a few up. The similarity is remarkabe so I wonder if mine is a clone, or if they were both outsourced to the same company. I think it's really cool, so I'm not fussed either way, but it will be interesting to know if there's any info or identification on it apart from the stickers.
BTW - I only paid £50 for mine so a bit less than any of the Gedore ones I've seen (even in very poor condition). Now if I could only find such a good deal on one of those vices...
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Motor-Mechanic
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These have been out of production for a good while, so when i found a brand new set, i had to buy them. I bought the matching engineers pliers and side cutters years ago, unfortunately the pliers grew legs and walked earlier this year
1950s to early 1960s vintage French military tools I picked up many years ago that were still coated with cosmoline and in the original military packaging (dated variously from 1954 to 1963) when I got them:
The 1/4" drive handle, t-bar, and open-end wrenches just say "Chrome Vanadium" and "France."
The sockets say "FACOM France."
Sockets and wrenches are all fractional Imperial or US Standard sizes, not metric.
The pliers have "C-O-P" on one handle and what is probably a mil-spec number on the other handle.
The decal on the ball pein hammer says "Acier Fondu MOB Qualite Garantie Made in France." Not sure what kind of wood the handle is made from. It's certainly not hickory like most US-made handles. It might be birch, and it has 7 small tight knots in it (something I'm not used to seeing on a hammer handle).
The straight-blade screwdriver says "EGA" in a diamond outline and "France." Phillips is unmarked, but with somewhat similar handle style.
Stamping on the diagonal pliers is on a curved surface and incomplete, but part of it appears to be "INNGONOIT."
6" adjustable wrench is a really rough forging, almost like a cheap Asian import, but the jaw is very well fitted and adjustment very smooth. Says "Original Vanarecord" on one side of the handle, and "REF40 Kingvanadium 6" " on the other side.
The 1/4" drive handle, t-bar, and open-end wrenches just say "Chrome Vanadium" and "France."
The sockets say "FACOM France."
Sockets and wrenches are all fractional Imperial or US Standard sizes, not metric.
The pliers have "C-O-P" on one handle and what is probably a mil-spec number on the other handle.
The decal on the ball pein hammer says "Acier Fondu MOB Qualite Garantie Made in France." Not sure what kind of wood the handle is made from. It's certainly not hickory like most US-made handles. It might be birch, and it has 7 small tight knots in it (something I'm not used to seeing on a hammer handle).
The straight-blade screwdriver says "EGA" in a diamond outline and "France." Phillips is unmarked, but with somewhat similar handle style.
Stamping on the diagonal pliers is on a curved surface and incomplete, but part of it appears to be "INNGONOIT."
6" adjustable wrench is a really rough forging, almost like a cheap Asian import, but the jaw is very well fitted and adjustment very smooth. Says "Original Vanarecord" on one side of the handle, and "REF40 Kingvanadium 6" " on the other side.
nice set !!!
some new Bosch tools for 2012:
18 Volt Impact wrench which takes 1/4" bits as well as 1/2" sockets:
18 Volt screwdriver:
L-Boxx with built in LED light:
shoturtle
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latest new tools:
added the 532 long handle stahlwille ratchet to the collection and a Knipex Bolt Cutter.
any prices already known? cant find any more infos at the moment.
added the 532 long handle stahlwille ratchet to the collection and a Knipex Bolt Cutter.
any prices already known? cant find any more infos at the moment.
Stuey
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"The GLI PortaLED Professional will be available at specialist retail outlets from September 2012 onwards in the sizes 136 and 238 for a price of 149 and 154 euros plus VAT. From September to December 2012, professionals can also benefit from a special introductory offer: two different sets are available, consisting of the GLI PortaLED Professional 136 and a choice of a cordless drill/driver with 14.4 or 18 volts. The prices per set are between 349 and 399 euros plus VAT."
maddawg308
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Some of these tools are pretty neat, quality and design you just don't see in HF tools and stuff you get from the big box stores.
maddawg308
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mr_jack
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...some new Bosch tools for 2012:
18 Volt Impact wrench which takes 1/4" bits as well as 1/2" sockets:
...
That thing looks good.
I think it's a great idea to be able to use both bits & sockets with the same tool.
zuspiel
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^^^^^^^ Love those!
All my PB stuff has multicraft handles which are both grippy and easy to clean...
All my PB stuff has multicraft handles which are both grippy and easy to clean...
Everest. made in India.
wrenches on fote made during exSSSR. Then India has supplied a tool in the USSR
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wrenches on fote made during exSSSR. Then India has supplied a tool in the USSR
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Viking Tools
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Those are really nice. Stupid question maybe, but are the sleeves plastic then? They look like hammered steel.
For a plastic box with a few LED bulbs?I can buy an LED tv for that sort of money...
Festool charges €165 for their LED light....without box....
...and the LED TV for that sort of money is not made in germany
finally got me the missing 3/8" 1/2"dr. socket:
Festool charges €165 for their LED light....without box....
Wow.
...and the LED TV for that sort of money is not made in germany
Hahahaha true, but are you certain the LED box is?
Wow.
http://www.festool.co.uk/Products/P...spx?pid=498231&name=Work-light-SYSLITE-KAL-GB
Hahahaha true, but are you certain the LED box is?
the box should be, made by Sortimo , the LED light probably not, this Bosch LED light for example is made in romania (?) IIRC
No luminance, even in technical data? No way to compare with anything
, it may be a very good tool but no way to know it before buying...
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No luminance, even in technical data? No way to compare with anything
6x3W LEDs. I just swapped 8 of the 50W halogens in my kitchen ceiling for 9W (3x3w each) CREE LEDs . Let's just say it's not going to be amazingly bright for the money.
There are many, many different leds, even among crees.
6xled could be 1200lm or even more...