Tools from the old world

[Geurt]

Bought a new set of screwdrivers for the home box and a torx set for the garage. Love the packaging!

Also bought some misc items for the angle grinder. Used to buy the cheap no branded stuff, but the ones made here in the old World tend to last longer and do a better job!

 

[Roverbo]

Geurt, lovely Hazet tools - and packages...i like the colors, typography and logotypes...thats what you meant, right?
Glad to see that some Bosch products still comes from Switzerland - probably from Scintilla S.A. who used to make many of their power tools. When i glance at the Bosch depatrment at Bauhaus, most of the Bosch stuff comes from Hungary or China.

 

[bart1]

Geurt, lovely Hazet tools - and packages...i like the colors, typography and logotypes...thats what you meant, right?

...

I'm sure that is what he meant. I also like the fonts used on that back of the package.

 

[Roverbo]

I'm sure that is what he meant. I also like the fonts used on that back of the package.

That would be Linotype MILFont, I guess...
Now, stop ....this is a clean, familyfriendly site...

 

[savas]

It is a very good thread. I have read about 300 posts; it was definitely worth my time because I have learned about many brands which I have never knew before.

I have found two lists made by Monte that list all French and Sweden tools makers. Monte, do you have any more lists (with German, Italian etc. manufacturers)?

But there is one problem. When it come to choosing a brand for pliers, cutters, hammers, drill bits, screwdriver bits etc. I have no idea which brands are the best (in terms of the quality of production).
Let's take drill bits. At the beginning I was convinced to buy a set of Bosch HSS-Co and a set of Irwin Turbomax. But then I have learned about Mueller Kueps, Alpen, Ruko, Keil, KOCH-Bohrer, Hawera, Heller, Diager, Garant, Gühring, Format. I am sure there are much more. Question is - what should I choose if I want the best quality?
Screwdriver bits: PB Swiss Tools, Wera and Wekado seems to make good quality ones. But is it really the case? And if so, which brand out of these three to choose from?
Hammers: Picard or Geodore? Maybe something else?

So, I guess you can understand my frustration here. It would be so easier if there would be a list of let's say 3 best brands for each group of instruments and its accessories. I understand that it can be subjective, but still...

P. S. And here is another example. I was impressed by Facom brand and decided to pick K.149. But then I have found out (thanks to this forum) that is made in Taiwan. So, who makes the best quality heavy duty ratchets?

 

[Geurt]

From my own experience I can recommend these brands:
Hammer: Gedore (Rotband, it is my most used hammer)
Pliers: Knipex (started with one, now I have more and its the only brand I will buy for pliers)
Wrenches: Stahlwille, Hazet, Bahco
Ratchets: Hazet, Snap-on
Screwdrivers: Wiha, Hazet

Hopefully others will chime in cause this is just what I like. There is more and to each his own!

 

[CanUK]

P. S. And here is another example. I was impressed by Facom brand and decided to pick K.149. But then I have found out (thanks to this forum) that is made in Taiwan. So, who makes the best quality heavy duty ratchets?

Is it made in Taiwan? I haven't seen that model in person so can't comment on it's quality specifically, but I have Facom ratchets (over 25 now I think) made in Italy, France, and Taiwan, and can see no flaws in the Taiwanese-made items.

On the other hand I've seen in person another GJ member's made-in-France Facom bit sockets that are showing damage at the socket end from only light use. I have Elora made-in-Germany ring spanners that are poorly made, I've seen and heard of Hazet chrome flaking, and tests results posted here have shown that Snap-On spanners are weaker than cheap Indian-made ones.

Bottom line though is if it was an impressive ratchet before you discovered it's COO, then it's still an impressive ratchet. Enjoy it!

EDIT: Almost forgot - Welcome!

 

[mrtools]

Send me a Gedore and I will give you a report

OK if you can wait until I'm boring with them

Those are interesting. I assume they're meant to grab the corners rather than just two sides?
I wish Toptul was more readily available here in the UK.

Actually I have no idea about this wrenches open ended..maybe it just a gimmick

This morning's car-boot finds:

nice find especially old France Facom and Elora wrenches

yes sir

The black one is old and is from Japan.

nice.. black ceramic?
btw: cheap Hozan Stainless Steel twizzer

New arrivals, and a tale of epic customer service

awesome deal Facom guy!!!
Congratulation

Hi forum members,
this is my first posting on GJ; I´ve been reading your excellent tools-thread for a while now (could be the longest thread i have ever seen on a board?), and i thought I would show some of my tools too.

Welcome to the board
nice tools you have there...I think we need some close-up pics for your tools wall

I finally decided to scan some pages from the 2007 Factory Gear Magazine

More to add:
Tour of Knipex factory

PB Swiss Tools factory tour:

Interesting content for tools lover like me, do they have the English version and do you know where can I get this informative magazine
btw: thanks to upload

Here's some photos of my combination wrench collection as requested:

Thanks to shared your awesome combination wrenches collection photo

New arrivals:
Just £1 for the pair of these. I don't need them, but at that price I had to buy them, just to see what they were like. The crappy mobile phone camera/flash has made them look like they have a poor finish, but in fact it's quite nice.

errrkkk!!! that why the Japanese did not stamp JIS logo on the wrenches
btw : Tone open ended with JIS mark

Here are some of my recent acquisitions:
Some old Wiha hard handle screwdrivers
and Knipex snap ring pliers.

awesome deal you are so lucky
congratulation!!!

Finally found a reasonable priced Koken dealer in Germany...The complete haul

nice
do they ship worldwide?

some older "how it´s made" videos from a german kids TV show:

interesting video thanks to shared

btw. combination wrenches...:
and a extra overview of the long wrenches:

Awesome Master monte I'm sure no one can beat your combination wrenches collection!!!!
which one have the most thick and thin open ended jaws between Gedore No.7, No.7-XL, No.1B, and 7UR?
btw: another good photo for my desktop screen sever.. Unfortunately no Japanese and Uncle Sam wrenches

You guys just continue to amaze me - great photos, and many brands i´ve never heard of before. I´ll continue with hammers:

nice hammer collection

Tools in action, new boot and repack a CV joint on my car. Messy job!

nice shot Bart1 !!!Thanks to shared

Today's haul - The Leinen Twins.

Awesome babies
Powder coat is the best but like monte do to their Leinen, hammered paint looks great too

At last!

Woww!!!! that great, still left another one for me?

More today.
Sizes 3.2mm through 14mm, but no 13mm so I might pick one up if I can find one cheap:

nice
NOS?

Here's some comparison pics of the old version (top) of the Facom 74 series 10mm, vs new version (bottom) of the 74, also in 10mm. Both are made in France:

Thanks great comparison pics!!! Clearly the pics show us Facom R&D perform the good jobs, the newer version comes with more smooth surface and better shaft shape

Gear hanger chasing operation yesterday:
Tools used: DC Swiss M10 x 1 tap.

nice in action tools shot! Thanks buddy

I have now shared with you almost all the tools in our shop (except a few bicycle specific ones). I fear that I will loose contact with you all because we don't have anything left to post. But The Lion (my wife) decided we should move back to France for a while, ostensibly IN SEARCH OF SAM (outillage, that is). Who knows what may find it's way into our paws, since we know a few tool suppliers here and there. And even if we end up tool-less (not likely) and in-the-red (inevitably), we will post photos of whatever we find along the way, always remembering our GJ buddies the world over.
Talk to you all soon from the old world!

we all pray for your vacation...hope you will find a great tools and post here
Good luck Angoo!!
btw:nice costume

@ Savas
Welcome to the board..I know what you mean...this is the open thread, we try to avoid to talk which one is the best or which one is the worse directly..maybe our statement will disappointing some peoples, so the best ways is "go neutral" the true is an answer is subjective depend to your interest, budget, use for what and many more factors, I think the COO is the most factor what we looks here, but it's not means all tools from Germany, France, Italy and Japan is good, like Geurt and CanUK said, they all have their own opinion..I'm sure if you read carefully you will find the answer, I mean the best tools for you...

btw: for me newer Taiwan made Facom ratchet is good but the old France made is very,very goooooodddd...you also can "check-up" the most famous ratchet here like Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore and a couple of Japanese made ratchet

 

[murt]

Still haven't found anything on this brand.



I would like to know too.



Isn't Bison-Bial the new name for FPIU?

I suppose this particular model Kanca you're after has been discontinued by Kanca? Can't find it in their latest catalogue. Their entry offering seems to be the Kadett, a Durlach/Matador/Ridgid/... style vice with the adjusting gibs on the upper side of the slide.
As for quality, a cousin of mine has their K2 - Heuer Front style - and looks to me to be of very high quality.

Hi Guys,

I am Murat Aras from Kanca Hand Tools and I work at the export sales. And I should tell that I am a big fan of this forum, I really learn a lot. But lately I haven"t been able to log in and I see that I missed a few think without reply.

First of all about the Kanex: It is a drop-forged bench vice manufactured by Kanca. We started to produce it 3-4 years ago and we still produce it. We are very satisfied with the growing sales number and we believe that it started to find its own market.
Kanex is a budget version of a good quality forged bench vice. As you all know there cheap suppliers from Asia was trying to capture the European Market but the quality was not ok. And we got some demands for an economical good quality bench vice, as a resistance to the cheap suppliers. So we came up with this product. The jaws are the same with the other models. Still induction hardened, still unbreakable. But we reduced some cost from the other parts (the anvil is not hardened, a different u-profile, no adjustable screws, the anvil and the jaws are painted) and made a budged good quality vice alternative. And we have 2 sizes, 125 and 150 mm versions.
And yes it is not in our website and it is a schame for us. Thank you for making us to see that mistake. We put them into the website ASAP. But you can download latest Kanca catalogue from our website, from downloads part and you can find the details about Kanex in that catalogue and about all of the products as well.

Dear Lukas; you can find these vices in from the following company http://www.profitechnik.pl/producent/kanca/ get in touch with them. They keep stocks for our items.

Also, anyone can get in touch with me about Kanca products through this forum (maybe i should be starting a new thread about Kanca) or directly from my e-mail address; [email protected]

Thank you all for your comments and interest. We are very pleased to be mentioned in this forum.

Regards,
Murat ARAS

 

[CanUK]

errrkkk!!! that why the Japanese did not stamp JIS logo on the wrenches
btw : Tone open ended with JIS mark

"errrkkk" meaning you think it's not very good? In person they seem to be of fairly good quality, but I'm not terribly concerned either way considering I paid £1 and only bought them as a curiosity

And I thought I'd read (on GJ maybe) that the JIS stamp was missing from many newer Japanese tools because it had been largely superseded as a standard. Are those spanners older?

 

[Roverbo]

@ Savas
Welcome to the board..I know what you mean...this is the open thread, we try to avoid to talk which one is the best or which one is the worse directly..maybe our statement will disappointing some peoples, so the best ways is "go neutral" the true is an answer is subjective depend to your interest, budget, use for what and many more factors, I think the COO is the most factor what we looks here, but it's not means all tools from Germany, France, Italy and Japan is good, like Geurt and CanUK said, they all have their own opinion..I'm sure if you read carefully you will find the answer, I mean the best tools for you...

+1 to this Mr Tools,
I would just add a little to Savas: Like you, I´ve joined this board because of the vast amount of information you can find here. But even though many members have Hazet, Gedore, Habero etc. as their favorite brands, you will surely find loads of other fine tools at flee markets, garage sales, and errr.. even in shops. So take the tools in your hand, find some info. about the here, and make your descision. I love tools from the old world, but it´s also a matter of nostalgy, because my father was (well, still is) a collector, and proud to own brands like DSI, Öbergs, Sandvik and Bacho (I´m from Scandinavia). But times are-a-changing, as uncle Bob sings, and globalization has merged most tool companies in strange ways. You can make a parallel to the bicycle business, where Raleigh from Nottingham, UK, was the worlds premium brand in the 70´s. Then new materials were introduced, like carbon- and aluminium-frames, and the new production facilities wasn´t built here, but out in Asia. I see the same happening in the tools business, where nearly every ratcheting spanner comes from Taiwan, whether its stamped Matador, Hazet, Stanley or Bacho. Yes, the old brands keep some capacity at home, but most of the new stuff comes from far away. Even though I personally feel a bit sad about this, its the price of international free trade, and as long as skilled craftsmen demand good tools, I truly believe there will be a market for this. At the moment, China is "The workshop" for the World, but looking forward some 20-30-40 years, this may have changed. With growing welth comes growing demands for better wages, environment, and maybe even democracy. The Swedes have a saying "Det jämnar ut sig" - Everything levels out, eventually.
Could happen in the tool world as well...
Sorry, that became a long story, and too longhaired...Welcome to GJ!

 

[Roverbo]

Hi Guys,

I am Murat Aras from Kanca Hand Tools and I work at the export sales. And I should tell that I am a big fan of this forum, I really learn a lot. But lately I haven"t been able to log in and I see that I missed a few think without reply.

Thank you for providing us this information, Murat. I wish other toolmakers would add some of their knowledge into this board. Nice to hear that you will take the battle, producing reasonably priced tools in Europe.

 

[Van Steele]

Hi Guys,

I am Murat Aras from Kanca Hand Tools and I work at the export sales.

Also, anyone can get in touch with me about Kanca products through this forum (maybe i should be starting a new thread about Kanca) or directly from my e-mail address; [email protected]

Thanks Murat, it's nice to be able to hear these things straight from the horse's mouth.

Thank you for providing us this information, Murat. I wish other toolmakers would add some of their knowledge into this board. Nice to hear that you will take the battle, producing reasonably priced tools in Europe.

+1

 

[lok]

maybe you can find one here
www.olfa.co.jp
www.muratec-kds.jp/en/
www.tajimatool.com
www.martor.de

Thanks man. I knew only the olfa and the tajima. Thanks.

some "in action tool" for all my buddy's!

Once again great pics. Keep shooting mr.

Is this a Tone breaker bar?

..Close-up shot from my lovely box

Great tools

I finally got around to taking pics of the tools I bought from Ash......

Niiiice!!!

At last a NWS FantasticoPlus found inside my mailbox. My first one.

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Fantastico

btw. combination wrenches...:

Awesome collection monte, congratulation. What about your 17mm sockets collection?

You guys just continue to amaze me - great photos, and many brands i´ve never heard of before. I´ll continue with hammers:


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Nice tools, good used. Very, very nice tools. Your pics were awesome. Thanks.

Tools in action, new boot and repack a CV joint on my car. Messy job!

Messy job but your pics are great. Nice Hazet in action. Thanks.

At last!

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Maaaaaann!!!



Awesome find canUK, congratulation.

It is a very good thread. I have read about 300 posts; it was definitely worth my time because I have learned about many brands which I have never knew before.

I have found two lists made by Monte that list all French and Sweden tools makers. Monte, do you have any more lists (with German, Italian etc. manufacturers)?

But there is one problem. When it come to choosing...

Ok, thats easy! Buy Gedore!

Welcome.

Hi Guys...

Welcome Murt.







A very good friend ask what internal extractors to buy.

Well...



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[Miskin]

Ok my turn Gedore Guy...

View media item 25562View media item 25563...also the box from Europe...
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[Monte]

More to add:

thanks again for the scans !!!!

The Lion just told me our only 13mm combination wrench is missing!

Which brand ? can´t remember from whom i borrowed all these wrenches

That would be Linotype MILFont

I have found two lists made by Monte that list all French and Sweden tools makers. Monte, do you have any more lists (with German, Italian etc. manufacturers)??

European hand tool manufacturers:

http://ceo-tools.com/?page_id=147

Let's take drill bits. At the beginning I was convinced to buy a set of Bosch HSS-Co and a set of Irwin Turbomax. But then I have learned about Mueller Kueps, Alpen, Ruko, Keil, KOCH-Bohrer, Hawera, Heller, Diager, Garant, Gühring, Format. I am sure there are much more. Question is - what should I choose if I want the best quality??

quality (carbide tipped) drill bit manufacturers:
http://pgm-online.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/PGM-Company-List.pdf

I understand that it can be subjective, but still...

...there are as many opinions as there are people, so......

Awesome Master monte I'm sure no one can beat your combination wrenches collection!!!!
which one have the most thick and thin open ended jaws between Gedore No.7, No.7-XL, No.1B, and 7UR?
btw: another good photo for my desktop screen sever.. Unfortunately no Japanese and Uncle Sam wrenches

uncle sam and samurai wrenches will follow ...just difficult or impossible to find locally....

Thickness of open end:
1. 7 XL (thickest)
2. 1 B
3. 7
4. 7 UR (thinnest)

(There is only a little difference between the "7" and "7 UR" of about 0,1 to 0,3mm in thickness)

Hi Guys,

Welcome to this forum Murat !

Awesome collection monte, congratulation. What about your 17mm sockets collection?

oh forgot that i have that collection
i will continue it in mid november

A very good friend ask what internal extractors to buy.

Well...

very nice bearing extractor set !
reminds me to buy some Gedore because they have some problems right now and had to release some people....

 

[d.stole]

Monte, one question for you. Any expirience with KWB tools?

Some more stuff I received recently. The Beta wrenches are the next sizes up from my Facom 440 set.

Where are these wrenches made? No country of origin on them. I know that Beta is from Italy, right?

Thanks!

 

[Roverbo]

First, thanks to all of you who writes on this board. I would really like to comment many of the posts, great scans from factory gear, great pics and great storytelling. In fact, maybe it´s the fascination of the tools that you show there´s the real star here, not the tools. But then, there are so many posts... and I wouldn´t have time left to walk my dog, or even talk to my wife and kids...

OK, more old world, used tools...
View media item 25565Pliers, long nose combination. Top: German, unknown brand. Bottom: Linström, Sweden. Both from local fleemarket.
I like the die-cast (?) decoration. The other inner-handle reads "Western Germany"
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Locking ring pliers:
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My father never uses the term "Locking ring", but says "Seeger ring". Maybe this company was among the first to do these pliers? Hence the "original" inscription...
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Calipers...old school, but very precise.
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One Mauser, Germany (yes, it is in fact the gun factory...) and one Tesa, Swiss made. This is from a machine factory, where a friend of mine works, who "cleaned" among old tools - i got a load of drills and taps for free, many never used. .
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This is not old world, but it´s old tools - found this on a swedish flee market. Paid SEK 20,- (4$).
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Lincoln grease gun, made in St. Louis, USA.
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So I took it home, cleaned it up a bit. It did work, but the grease was black as the night...what was inside?
View media item 25574From the design of this cartridge, i would say it´s a 50´s thing. This is maybe the grease it was delivered with? So it wasn´t used for many years. New grease in, and ready for use now. So just you wait, all you UJ´s...

 

[Miskin]

One Mauser, Germany (yes, it is in fact the gun factory...) and one Tesa, Swiss made. This is from a machine factory, where a friend of mine works, who "cleaned" among old tools - i got a load of drills and taps for free, many never used. .
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Hi Roverbo, what happened to the tesa's "inner jaws" (sorry for the wierd english). Somebody grind them or what?

 

[Roverbo]

European hand tool manufacturers:

http://ceo-tools.com/?page_id=147

quality (carbide tipped) drill bit manufacturers:
http://pgm-online.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/PGM-Company-List.pdf

..

This is interesting, but not very complete. This is probably not new to you, but there are many small brands, not listed in this organization.

A few not listed (from Denmark):
http://www.vikingsaw.dk/1
Saw blades - very good quality, I buy them as a substitute, when i cant find Sandvik blades. And the factory is only 5 miles from my house...

http://www.irwin.dk/allproducts.php
JORAN drills - part of Irwin now, but the drills are made in Denmark, and still marked "Joran".

http://www.irwin.dk/allproducts.php
JACK SAWS - most of Irwins handsaws are made in Denmark by former JACK company.

http://www.sprehn.as/default.html
SPREHN handtools - hammers and masonry tools. Website only in danish version, sorry...I can translate if you have questions.

http://www.eskimo.dk/?lang=en
ESKIMO - masonry tools. We have many brick houses here in Denmark..

Cheers
Roverbo

 

[Roverbo]

Hi Roverbo, what happened to the tesa's "inner jaws" (sorry for the wierd english). Somebody grind them or what?

I think they have used this caliper for measuring a larger hole with a tighter flange (edge), if you get the idea. Probably the reason why they decided to put the caliper in the bin. Claws measures quite precise, though.

 

[d.stole]

This is interesting, but not very complete. This is probably not new to you, but there are many small brands, not listed in this organization.

A few not listed (from Denmark):
http://www.vikingsaw.dk/1
Saw blades - very good quality, I buy them as a substitute, when i cant find Sandvik blades. And the factory is only 5 miles from my house...

http://www.irwin.dk/allproducts.php
JORAN drills - part of Irwin now, but the drills are made in Denmark, and still marked "Joran".

http://www.irwin.dk/allproducts.php
JACK SAWS - most of Irwins handsaws are made in Denmark by former JACK company.

http://www.sprehn.as/default.html
SPREHN handtools - hammers and masonry tools. Website only in danish version, sorry...I can translate if you have questions.

http://www.eskimo.dk/?lang=en
ESKIMO - masonry tools. We have many brick houses here in Denmark..

Cheers
Roverbo

I don't know many tool makers, but also can conclude that PB Swiss missing.

 

[Monte]

Monte, one question for you. Any expirience with KWB tools?

i only own a angle drive adaptor for a drill, but its junk....
the tools are for the DIY user so i wouldnt expect too high quality....

My father never uses the term "Locking ring", but says "Seeger ring". Maybe this company was among the first to do these pliers? Hence the "original" inscription.

the german company Seeger invented the Seeger-ring in 1927
www.seeger-orbis.de

This is interesting, but not very complete. This is probably not new to you, but there are many small brands, not listed in this organization.

Didn´t know about the danish manufacturers but there are many many companies missing.....Izeltas and Altas from Turkey for example, Geilo from Norway, Footprint from England, Hafu from Germany, Beargrip from Holland and at least a dozen manufacturers from Italy... it seems some companies don´t want to pay membership fees ´
But the list is a good start for surfing

 

[d.stole]

i only own a angle drive adaptor for a drill, but its junk....
the tools are for the DIY user so i wouldnt expect too high quality....

Ok, thanks! Any comment for those Beta "non labeled" wrenches?

 

[Monte]

theoretically they should be italian but who knows

 

[Roverbo]

the german company Seeger invented the Seeger-ring in 1927
www.seeger-orbis.de

Ahrrr...this is simply the original tool. The finish or lack of same could date them back many years. I think these Seegers came from the factory where my father was an apprentice many, many years ago, the start of the fiftees.

But the list is a good start for surfing

Sure is.... many hours of pure tool-**** .

 

[Roverbo]

Monte,
do you know about Matador? I have some of their combination wrenches (bought i Bauhaus), but lately i have noticed a change in the finish. It has changed from the quite coarse "fruitskin" to a more shiny surface. Also the text on the handles, in some sizes, now lacks the GERMANY text.
Have they moved to asia?
Cheers
Roverbo

 

[Geurt]

Bought a 3/8 Hazet ratchet online for just 5 euro's (selector lever was broken). For another 10 euro's I bought the repair kit. After some fiddling with that spring and ball I now have I nice new ratchet!

Dismantled

Done

 

[Hazet]

Monte, one question for you. Any expirience with KWB tools?

Some more stuff I received recently. The Beta wrenches are the next sizes up from my Facom 440 set.

Where are these wrenches made? No country of origin on them. I know that Beta is from Italy, right?

Thanks!

I used to have these. They are Italian Made. Beta has some wrenches made in Taiwan, but these tend to be bright chrome. The matt chrome wrenches like yours are Italian.

 

[north]

*snip* Geilo from Norway *snip*

They stopped production this summer and the company will go the way of the Dodo bird by the end of this year.

Geilo screwdrivers were found in every house when I was a kid many moons ago. Weird to see them go.

 

[Miskin]

Some wrenches from around the (old) world...
CCCP
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View media item 25602China??
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View media item 25598Russia(not CCCP? I don't know, any ideas?)
View media item 25594View media item 25595Japan & Germany again
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[stef40]

The wrench 16,from picture 10 is "IUS" made in Romania.

 

[Miskin]

The wrench 16,from picture 10 is "IUS" made in Romania.

That is very intresting. I always thought that the COO is China. But their quality is very good, to good to be China or even Taiwan. I 'm working with these (we have full line) wrenches every day. Romanians i guess they know how to make a good wrench!

 

[CanUK]

Some wrenches from around the (old) world...

Wow nice collection! I like the Netsuren. The Facom 40L is a long version I think? I haven't come across one of those before.

 

[2oolhound]

Nice collection or wrenches there Miskin. I like the CCCP on the top.

 

[Monte]

IUS = MOB Outillage

Ahrrr...this is simply the original tool. The finish or lack of same could date them back many years. I think these Seegers came from the factory where my father was an apprentice many, many years ago, the start of the fiftees.

definately looks very old because of the bare "designer" handles

Sure is.... many hours of pure tool-**** .

Monte,
do you know about Matador? I have some of their combination wrenches (bought i Bauhaus), but lately i have noticed a change in the finish. It has changed from the quite coarse "fruitskin" to a more shiny surface. Also the text on the handles, in some sizes, now lacks the GERMANY text.
Have they moved to asia?
Cheers
Roverbo

i guess the wrenches and sockets (the new glossy ones without "Germany"....) are from Taiwan nowadays ... (?)
Maybe only at the Bauhaus...? Maybe they have a second german line ....?? Bauhaus don´t want to pay anything for the Matador tools i heard......their prices are like 40% below list prices....

Bought a 3/8 Hazet ratchet online for just 5 euro's (selector lever was broken). For another 10 euro's I bought the repair kit. After some fiddling with that spring and ball I now have I nice new ratchet!

good job

They stopped production this summer and the company will go the way of the Dodo bird by the end of this year.

Geilo screwdrivers were found in every house when I was a kid many moons ago. Weird to see them go.

sad to hear that another european manufacturer goes out of business....

 

[Roverbo]

They stopped production this summer and the company will go the way of the Dodo bird by the end of this year.

Geilo screwdrivers were found in every house when I was a kid many moons ago. Weird to see them go.

Yes, North, sad. Didn´t Geilo make knives too?

I have some Geilo screwdrivers too. Very nice, but since they´re Philips type, i don´t use them so often. Pozidrive more common here.

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Next: Utility and Pocket knives...old world, old and used:

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Three german pocket knives, although two of them demand big pockets...

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The top one has engraved Solingen (very week, and I couldn´t get it on the picture). Bottom two from Lütters & Cie (Loewen Messer). The small one is still available. Carbon steel, super knife

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Two swedish pocket/utility knived from EKA, top one special edition for The masonry association in Copenhagen, other a standard EKA 38. Very practical knives, can be totally disassambled with a small coin (for cleaning or...hmmm...just because you can). These knives are still in production.

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An off topic sidekick as usual... an american made Volvo Trucks knife; made by Zippo Corp.

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Cheers

 

[Roverbo]

i guess the wrenches and sockets (the new glossy ones without "Germany"....) are from Taiwan nowadays ... (?)
Maybe only at the Bauhaus...? Maybe they have a second german line ....?? Bauhaus don´t want to pay anything for the Matador tools i heard......their prices are like 40% below list prices....

Yes, they are really cheap, and (untill now), felt like good quality. Most of the socket are 6 point, and i like that. Not so common. I must hurry to Bauhaus, to buy the rest of the Germany-marked stuff before it´s too late!

 

[Monte]

Next: Utility and Pocket knives...old world, old and used:

nice antique tools !

I must hurry to Bauhaus, to buy the rest of the Germany-marked stuff before it´s too late!

....... or to the Stahlwille, Gedore or Hazet dealer

 

[stef40]

That is very intresting. I always thought that the COO is China. But their quality is very good, to good to be China or even Taiwan. I 'm working with these (we have full line) wrenches every day. Romanians i guess they know how to make a good wrench!

Here, you can visit their web page. http://www.mob-ius.ro They forge under French "supervising". I also use their wrenches, and they look and work pretty good.

Regards!