Tools from the old world

[Monte]

Hi Monte, how do you feel that this interchangeble saw is to use compared to normal "fixed handle" saws? (sloppy handle?) The price is quite high here in Denmark, so you could probably buy a complete set of fixed saws for the same money as the complete interchange system costs.

The handle has no slop/play at all. It´s tight (Swedish quality ).
The selling point for me was the superior ergonomics which is better than any competitor. Yes the handle/blade was expensive but i got it on sale for like 25.- or 30.- (?) the 2 extra blades were 8.- and 11.- that was ok (close out sale). If you use a hand saw often maybe it´s worth because of the ergonomics, since you also can buy a extra handle for each blade but otherwise you are probably better off with buying 2 or 3 different regular saws.

 

[mr_jack]

This came in today, but unfortunately I still don't have my PH2 sample ...

Dear Mr Stoilov,

First of all thank you very much for your inquiry.

We are very glad to inform you that in Bulgaria we are represented by the company Euromarket BRD Ltd.

Euromarket BRD Ltd.
51 ANDREI LIAPTCHEV BLVD.
BG-1784 Sofia-Bulgaria
Tel.: 00359(2)8102440

Euromarket BRD Ltd. is our official factories representative for the Bulgarian market and this company will take care for all your demands and also provide you with the technical services.

Thank you very much for your kind attention.
Please do not hesitate to contact us in case of any questions or requests.
Best regards,

Jörg Oestreich

I'm glad that they have a dealer here in Bulgaria!

 

[Blöckw@rt]

What do you use a bassin wrench for? A bassin of course...but whats the deal with such a crow foot? Sorry if it´s a stupid question, plumbing is not my strongest side...

The basin wrench is only for assembly and disassembly of basin taps and kitchen faucets.

 

[Roverbo]

The basin wrench is only for assembly and disassembly of basin taps and kitchen faucets.

Aha...that´s why my kitchen faucet is loose.. i think they have a Rothenberger wrench at my local Bauhaus. A good reason for a drive

The handle has no slop/play at all. It´s tight (Swedish quality ).

Sounds like a thing for my wish list... Only problem: To explain why i need it (too many saws in the garage).

 

[superautobacs]

So Fara, which of the Kabo tools in the Kara catalogue do you mean is the same as Snap-on?

I looked through the entire catalogue and I can say that none of them are sold under Snap-on's name....at least for the north American market. Perhaps in other parts of the world it's sold under the SO name. It is/has, however, been sold under the Blue Point brand in North America.
Kabo seems to have a market in Russia, but in North America, all you'd see is their ratcheting wrenches sold under various truck and non-truck brands. The rat. wrenches are also sold under different names in Europe as well.

What do you use a bassin wrench for? A bassin of course...but whats the deal with such a crow foot? Sorry if it´s a stupid question, plumbing is not my strongest side...

I you had to, you could use them for AN fittings too.

The handle has no slop/play at all. It´s tight (Swedish quality ).
The selling point for me was the superior ergonomics which is better than any competitor. Yes the handle/blade was expensive but i got it on sale for like 25.- or 30.- (?) the 2 extra blades were 8.- and 11.- that was ok (close out sale). If you use a hand saw often maybe it´s worth because of the ergonomics, since you also can buy a extra handle for each blade but otherwise you are probably better off with buying 2 or 3 different regular saws.

I had the chance to feel the handle when I was tool shopping in Germany and I loved that handle. "Ergo" is it.

Monte, have you tried a pull saw yet? You would be amazed at much ease and speed you can cut through wood, and there's no fancy handle needed.

 

[tweedlestan]

This came in today, but unfortunately I still don't have my PH2 sample ...



I'm glad that they have a dealer here in Bulgaria!

I got mine, and I'm from the USA. I wonder why you didn't get one?

 

[Alfajuj]

I've finally gotten around to taking some proper photos of my latest acquisitions:

Here's my Hazet 882 set. This was my first ever Hazet tool kit about 6 years ago and has proven to be the single most useful tool set I have ever owned (I work mostly on motorcycles). I just changed some of the bits to ones I use more often. I swapped out the pozidriv bits for more sizes of slothead bits. The Hazet PUR socket set insert is my favorite system. It holds the sockets and keeps them from moving around and building up circular scratches if they're being carried in your car.

The original 866U 1/4" spinner was a bit corroded and I never liked it (actually I've always hated it) . I was always on the lookout for an earlier 866 trinamic type spinner to swap in. Finally success! The kit just seems more cohesive now. I've always been a fan of the old Hazet trinamic screwdrivers. They're my favorite all time design. I always buy them whenever I find them. So I was thrilled when I found this phillip's set 835-PH/6k with a tray!
Why Hazet phased the 835 screwdrivers out is beyond me. They're the perfect screwdriver!

 

[Alfajuj]

Here's my old Hazet 600 series wrench collection so far. I've got the fractional series all the way from 1/4" through 1-3/8. I'm just missing the 1-1/16, 1-1/4 (it's a 600N) 1-1/2 and 1-5/8. I keep it in a huge snapon kit bag. I put in the pen for scale.

I'm still working on the 600 metric set. There are still a lot of gaps.

I've got almost the full set of metric 625 box wrenches up to 32mm, just missing the 10x11. I have no idea why Hazet is phasing these out.

It's a sublime alignment of interests when my Hazet dealer doesn't want the obsolete stuff and I am seeking it out!

 

[Alfajuj]

Here are more NOS Hazet finds: fractional Hazet 625 box wrenches.
Fractional Hazet 450 series DOE wrenches
and fractional Hazet hex key set 2100A/7R
(the other hex key set is a metric set in a pouch. see below)

 

[Alfajuj]

Here's the metric hex key set.

And this is a handy little bit magazine. It can be used as a handle itself, but the primary purpose is just as storage for the bits and adapter. The bits are meant to be used in a proper bit handle or a power tool.
I prefer to use bits whenever using slothead screws because the hollow ground design of bits works a lot better than a standard screwdriver bit profile. The standard tips tend to work on the edge of the slot while the hollow ground profile works in the bottom of the slot.

 

[Alfajuj]

Here's my NOS made in France Facom bit set.

Facom made in France 1/4" spinners

Facom made in France DOE low profile tappet wrench

 

[Alfajuj]

This is an old 8816-F fine tooth 3/8 drive ratchet. The mechanism inside is just like a Facom. But I prefer the Hazet handle design.

The Facom J.161 3/8 drive palm control ratchet is much smoother than the Hazet even thought they share the same design of the mechanism.

The Facom S.161 1/2 drive palm control ratchet is my new favorite ratchet.
I have heard that these ratchets are actually made in Italy by USAG.

On the strip are some Hazet 3/8 drive sockets. There's some inhex sockets of varying lengths, a single 11/16 deep socket and the full set of fractional 6 point short sockets. For some reason Hazet only goes up to 3/4" in the fractional 6 points.

The long reach 1/2" drive 26mm 900TZ is the coolest socket I think I've ever seen. I've got to get a full set of these eventually. The 26mm has been discontinued, so I'm glad I got it.

The same goes for the 3/8 drive speeder. I don't know why Hazet has discontinued this speeder. Speeders are really useful sometimes. Like when you're assembling a series of fasteners on an engine before you use the torque wrench on them.

 

[Alfajuj]

Inch size Hazet feeler guage set.

Hazet Pliers:
The channel lock style pliers 760-1 and 760-3 are actually nothing special, but they've been a staple in Hazet catalogs forever.

The 1855-22 pliers are the nicest pliers I have ever owned. I've had a larger pair 1855-33 for years.

Some Hazet screwdrivers. The shorty slotheads are very nice with hollow ground tips.
The 800 series screwdrivers are a bit too small in the handle.

Wood handled 814-PH3 and PH4. I wish they were blue!

Hazet halfmoon wrench 14 x 16

 

[Alfajuj]

Hazet 612 flarenut wrenches.

Gedore DOE wrench set with a few Hazet 450 and 450Ns.

Here's my random combination wrench collection. It includes Facom 40 and 440, Gedore 1B and 7, WGB, Elora, even a Rotar (Toptul)
I really like the Gedore 1B a lot and plan to finish the set at some point. Gedore really gives excellent value for the money.

Here's my Elora JB set. It includes metric, frational, whitworth and BA sizes.
I don't presently own anything that has whitworth fasteners at the moment but I though it would be nice to have. Whitworth stuff is disappearing and I may restore an old Triumph one of these days.
This has been a very difficult set to put together. I won most of the set on ebay UK. The seller was a real PITA as he separated the set into sections. The SOB knew he would get more money that way. I had to get up at 3AM and simultaneously win 6 separate auctions! I lost the bid for for the whitworth sockets and for the case. So the case is a new one I ordered from Classic Car World Tools www.ccw-tools
I've been having a devil of a time ferreting out the whitworth sockets. Elora has discontinued them. I've got two more on the way. So now I just need the 3/8W. This has turned out to be a very expensive exercise!

Back in the 60's Hazet used to make Whitworth stuff. Now that would be cool to have.

 

[Alfajuj]

Here's a really nice set of Lobster brand combination wrenches I got recently.
Lobster is a very old Japanese brand probably most famous for their pliers but these wrenches are really cool. (Most Japanese hand wrenches are very plain looking with raised panels like Craftsman.)
These are different. They have a unique style and pebbly pattern finish. The shape of the shank is very ergonomic and the heads are slim enough to fit in tight spaces. Top notch quality and didn't cost an arm and a leg.
These wrenches are really growing on me.

 

[Nocturnal-G]

nowadays not from Germany anymore

Monte, you were right... I looked around and none of water kettle's are made in Germany anymore. Do you know where they are made now?

 

[mercucho]

Here's a really nice set of Lobster brand combination wrenches I got recently.
Lobster is a very old Japanese brand probably most famous for their pliers but these wrenches are really cool. (Most Japanese hand wrenches are very plain looking with raised panels like Craftsman.)
These are different. They have a unique style and pebbly pattern finish. The shape of the shank is very ergonomic and the heads are slim enough to fit in tight spaces. Top notch quality and didn't cost an arm and a leg.
These wrenches are really growing on me.

Excellent wrenches.

The brand Lobster is one of my favorite Japanese tool brands.

 

[marlinspike]

Here's the metric hex key set.

And this is a handy little bit magazine. It can be used as a handle itself, but the primary purpose is just as storage for the bits and adapter. The bits are meant to be used in a proper bit handle or a power tool.
I prefer to use bits whenever using slothead screws because the hollow ground design of bits works a lot better than a standard screwdriver bit profile. The standard tips tend to work on the edge of the slot while the hollow ground profile works in the bottom of the slot.

PB Swiss slotted fixed blade screwdrivers are parallel tip, so even better than hollow ground.

 

[Alfajuj]

PB Swiss is one brand which I have never actually handled or even seen with my own eyes. I think I'll try to get some...

 

[Mr. Tool]

These, made in France, Facom 1/4" spinners are cool!

Wouldn't mind having these in my collection.

 

[Alx]

610n/8 rs

 

[chrenan]

Sort of a tool, a bottle cap opener from 1968 that celebrates the 100th anniversary of the Hazet tool factory...

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Forget Hazet, GEDORE, Stahlwille, Facom or Snap On !

The combined wrench bottle cap opener by Hansa !!!!!

 

[chrenan]

That's awesome!

 

[mercucho]

Re: 610n/8 rs

 

[Bhae]

 

[svranjic]

Re: 610n/8 rs

Alx - I hear you are a Hazet dealer and how much would these be??

 

[CanUK]

Re: 610n/8 rs

Alx - I hear you are a Hazet dealer and how much would these be??

I saw them in person today. So much detail - like little pieces of art...

Hopefully he doesn't mind me saying, but he's got some really cool stuff in, and my ability to resist spending is withering

 

[Nocturnal-G]

Yay or nay guys? Thoughts?

 

[N.I.]

Yay or nay guys? Thoughts?

The Hazet toolboxs are seemedly made by McPlus-

http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85Z%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=McPlus+&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AMcPlus+

 

[y20dth]

About 10 years ago, you could blindly buy anything from Hazet and be assured it being money well spend.
Today, Hazet is one of those companies that have sourced SOME of there products elsewhere (cheap), but there badge on it, and upped the price by 100% or more.
For some reason, I noticed this to be the case for a lot of there "innovative" or generally new products like air-and battery tools.

watch the promo- and action flyers, google and ebay-search your purchases, read GJ , and chose the best buy for your needs.
Just be aware, everybody is trying to rip you off, even our holy of holiest tool manufacturer HAZET

 

[y20dth]

Re: 610n/8 rs

By the way, THESE, these are the best flat double ring wrenches I have EVER used!

 

[Monte]

Sounds like a thing for my wish list... Only problem: To explain why i need it (too many saws in the garage).

throw them away

I had the chance to feel the handle when I was tool shopping in Germany and I loved that handle. "Ergo" is it.

Monte, have you tried a pull saw yet? You would be amazed at much ease and speed you can cut through wood, and there's no fancy handle needed.

Ergo at it´s best

no, i have not yet tried one, but i just saw my father has a small one from Aldi so i will try it this week but i´m more a power tool guy so i usually use the jig saw
ps: A fancy handle is a big plus

Monte, you were right... I looked around and none of water kettle's are made in Germany anymore. Do you know where they are made now?

Guess There, where everything is from nowadays Hint: the country starts with "C" and has 5 letters

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very nice Hazet collection

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nice pics ! You should photograph all Hazet tools like that

Forget Hazet, GEDORE, Stahlwille, Facom or Snap On !
The combined wrench bottle cap opener by Hansa !!!!!

sweet !!

Yay or nay guys? Thoughts?

if the box is closed it feels sturdy, if open its kind of wobbly
Made in Germany by www.Allit.de







made some videos because i was bored

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[bart1]

Re: 610n/8 rs

I saw them in person today. So much detail - like little pieces of art...

Hopefully he doesn't mind me saying, but he's got some really cool stuff in, and my ability to resist spending is withering

And his photography is like art!

I have one of those wrenches and it is very nice.

 

[Nocturnal-G]

Guess There, where everything is from nowadays Hint: the country starts with "C" and has 5 letters

Czech... Republic?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Braun-Hot-W...300-Multiquick-3-220-VOLTS-ONLY-/170962744242

 

[Alx]

Re: 610n/8 rs

Alx - I hear you are a Hazet dealer and how much would these be??

Answered in private

I saw them in person today. So much detail - like little pieces of art...

Hopefully he doesn't mind me saying, but he's got some really cool stuff in, and my ability to resist spending is withering

Hahaha! Thanks

nice pics ! You should photograph all Hazet tools like that

Thank you, Monte. I'm still building up an inventory so everything that's coming is getting photographed in the same fashion. I'll be slowly "spamming" here if you all don't mind

And his photography is like art!

I have one of those wrenches and it is very nice.

Hahaha! Thanks, Bart I really like these too so will probably keep a set.

 

[neophyte]

Yay or nay guys? Thoughts?

Personal vote is if your going to buy a plastic tool case your probably better of with a Systainer case, or maybe a sortimo and buy an insert for it. I'm not sure what kind of plastic the Sortimo cases are made from but the Systainers are ABS, and seem to be fairly tough. The case You pictured is made from polypropylene. Unless it's somehow reinforced, or a better mixture than what is common in plastic USA made cases, I'd be worried about impact breakage.

 

[neophyte]

throw them away


Ergo at it´s best

no, i have not yet tried one, but i just saw my father has a small one from Aldi so i will try it this week but i´m more a power tool guy so i usually use the jig saw
ps: A fancy handle is a big plus


Guess There, where everything is from nowadays Hint: the country starts with "C" and has 5 letters


very nice Hazet collection


nice pics ! You should photograph all Hazet tools like that

sweet !!


if the box is closed it feels sturdy, if open its kind of wobbly
Made in Germany by www.Allit.de







made some videos because i was bored

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Monte, nice Bahco Ergo saw. It looks nice and your video gives a better sense of the saw than the official Bahco comercial does. I was actually considering getting one of those unfortunatelly for some reason they seam to be twice the cost in the USA as they are in Germany. Then the UK prices just make the German prices look bad. I get the distinct impression Snap-On has little interest in selling some Bahco items in the US.

 

[Nocturnal-G]

Personal vote is if your going to buy a plastic tool case your probably better of with a Systainer case, or maybe a sortimo and buy an insert for it. I'm not sure what kind of plastic the Sortimo cases are made from but the Systainers are ABS, and seem to be fairly tough. The case You pictured is made from polypropylene. Unless it's somehow reinforced, or a better mixture than what is common in plastic USA made cases, I'd be worried about impact breakage.

This is the same box... don't know if impact would crack it but it seems to hold him pretty well!

 

[Alfajuj]

Re: 610n/8 rs

By the way, THESE, these are the best flat double ring wrenches I have EVER used!

I've only got one of these 610N wrenches so far and it's really a gem. Works great and is definitely one of the coolest looking wrenches ever designed! Very photogenic.

I've got to get more.

The old 610 looks pretty plain by comparison

These are for tight spaces and are perfect to use in combination with the DIN 894 open end wrenches.

Midget combination wrenches just don't look right to me!

These DIN 894s don't seem to get much respect, but in truth they're really useful when you need to get in a tight space and the shank design is excellent.