Tools from the old world
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Here's a few of my acquisitions. I took a trip to the Hazet dealer up in Taoyuan yesterday.
Got a case and PUR insert to make a home for my loose fractional sockets and fine tooth ratchet. The insert is actually for the 12 point set (884 AZN-1 rather than 884 AN-1) so it has 3 extra spaces. The 6 points only go up to 3/4 but the 12 points go up to 15/16. Who knows why.
I even looked at a 1963 Hazet catalog and it's the same!!!
I'll finish off this set eventually. In place of the universal joint (which I already have in the 882 set), I'm going to use a 1/4 to 3/8 and a 3/8 to 1/4 adaptor linked together. they should take up about the same amount of space as a U-joint. almost there. Just need a 5 inch extension and a spark plug socket. I guess I'll fill in the empty spaces with 12 point sockets. I don't know what else to do.
Like most tool freaks, we hate empty spaces in our sets!
I just love the old blue sheet metal cases so I picked this one up. I think I'll use it for 1/2" drive deep sockets. I've only got the 26mm so far.
It's originally for the 930 set which is an obsolete 1/2" drive socket set. I don't think I'll be able to get an insert for it.
Also got a 1/2 speeder to go with the 3/8 one.
These DOE wrenches are to finish out my set. The 4 x 5 on the bottom is a 450N, but it's labeled as a 450.
Got a case and PUR insert to make a home for my loose fractional sockets and fine tooth ratchet. The insert is actually for the 12 point set (884 AZN-1 rather than 884 AN-1) so it has 3 extra spaces. The 6 points only go up to 3/4 but the 12 points go up to 15/16. Who knows why.
I even looked at a 1963 Hazet catalog and it's the same!!!
I'll finish off this set eventually. In place of the universal joint (which I already have in the 882 set), I'm going to use a 1/4 to 3/8 and a 3/8 to 1/4 adaptor linked together. they should take up about the same amount of space as a U-joint. almost there. Just need a 5 inch extension and a spark plug socket. I guess I'll fill in the empty spaces with 12 point sockets. I don't know what else to do.
Like most tool freaks, we hate empty spaces in our sets!
I just love the old blue sheet metal cases so I picked this one up. I think I'll use it for 1/2" drive deep sockets. I've only got the 26mm so far.
It's originally for the 930 set which is an obsolete 1/2" drive socket set. I don't think I'll be able to get an insert for it.
Also got a 1/2 speeder to go with the 3/8 one.
These DOE wrenches are to finish out my set. The 4 x 5 on the bottom is a 450N, but it's labeled as a 450.
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About 10 years ago, you could blindly buy anything from Hazet and be assured it being money well spend.
Today, Hazet is one of those companies that have sourced SOME of there products elsewhere (cheap), but there badge on it, and upped the price by 100% or more.
For some reason, I noticed this to be the case for a lot of there "innovative" or generally new products like air-and battery tools.
watch the promo- and action flyers, google and ebay-search your purchases, read GJ, and chose the best buy for your needs.
Just be aware, everybody is trying to rip you off, even our holy of holiest tool manufacturer HAZET
I'm not living in my own little sky-blue Hazet universe. But then...when I see the Hazet logo I forget everything
But seriously I'm fully aware that you should buy tools on their own merit and not blindly following the brand. For Hazet products it's best to stick with their core products which they forge and manufacture themselves like the wrenches and sockets. Anything else and they add a huge markup.
For an impact driver, just buy Koken. Just compare the price of the Koken and the Hazet for the same tool.
For an adjustable wrench - Irega
At least Hazet hasn't totally sold their soul to the devil like Facom has
neophyte
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This is the same box... don't know if impact would crack it but it seems to hold him pretty well!
It's not the "soft" pressure of sitting on the box I'm referring to. It's impact damage caused by dropping a box full of tools onto a hard surface. Usually tool boxes aren't weight balanced due to the tools inside and when they fall they hit on a corner. I've had Polypropylene boxes from Sterilite and Rubbermaid fail this way as well as some tool boxes who's manufacturer I don't remember. I've dropped an fiberglass reinforced, ABS Systainer under similar circumstances without a problem.
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Alfajuj, your tools are just topnotch...
I would love to have som Lobster tools...
Alex, it would be nice if you could show the selection on your website. When I see the photos, i really would like to know about sets, prices, terms of sale (freight prices), but there is nothing on your site but aircraft stuff (surely very interesting too, but I dont´t own a C-130 (yet...)
Bhae, does these allen key sets contain a 7 mm as well? I´ve got the "original" Unbraco sets, but they are ...4 ,5 ,6 and 8, 10 mm. Helped a friend changing his brakes on a BMW 330, and we missed the 7 mm. Maybe a BMW speciality - haven´t missed 7 mm before
throw them away
Guess
Yes, i could throw them away...they are a kind of rusty...
Regarding Braun, this is what they say on their web:
Founded:
1921 in Frankfurt am Main by Max Braun
Business area:
Design, development and manufacturing of small electrical appliances
Parent company:
Owned by Procter & Gamble, Cincinnati, Ohio, USA since 2005.
Braun is one of 23 P&G “billion dollar brands.”
Technical Center in Kronberg is P&G‘s Global Center of Excellence for Devices.
Product range:
Among others, the range comprises the product categories foil shavers, beard trimmers, body groomers, epilators & lady shavers, hand blenders, hair care appliances.
Production sites:
4 plants in 2 countries: Germany and China
Employees:
> 4000 worldwide in 2010
I´ve got some Braun kitchen stuff, old big food processor, still works a treat maybe 20 years old (made in Germany), Hand Mixer (5 years old, made in Spain), Hand blender stick (not yet 1 year old, made in Spain). So beside the "Antique" foodprocessor, something is missing on that web...
neophyte
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Alfajuj, your tools are just topnotch...
I would love to have som Lobster tools...
Alex, it would be nice if you could show the selection on your website. When I see the photos, i really would like to know about sets, prices, terms of sale (freight prices), but there is nothing on your site but aircraft stuff (surely very interesting too, but I dont´t own a C-130 (yet...)
Bhae, does these allen key sets contain a 7 mm as well? I´ve got the "original" Unbraco sets, but they are ...4 ,5 ,6 and 8, 10 mm. Helped a friend changing his brakes on a BMW 330, and we missed the 7 mm. Maybe a BMW speciality - haven´t missed 7 mm before
Yes, i could throw them away...they are a kind of rusty...
Regarding Braun, this is what they say on their web:
Founded:
1921 in Frankfurt am Main by Max Braun
Business area:
Design, development and manufacturing of small electrical appliances
Parent company:
Owned by Procter & Gamble, Cincinnati, Ohio, USA since 2005.
Braun is one of 23 P&G “billion dollar brands.”
Technical Center in Kronberg is P&G‘s Global Center of Excellence for Devices.
Product range:
Among others, the range comprises the product categories foil shavers, beard trimmers, body groomers, epilators & lady shavers, hand blenders, hair care appliances.
Production sites:
4 plants in 2 countries: Germany and China
Employees:
> 4000 worldwide in 2010
I´ve got some Braun kitchen stuff, old big food processor, still works a treat maybe 20 years old (made in Germany), Hand Mixer (5 years old, made in Spain), Hand blender stick (not yet 1 year old, made in Spain). So beside the "Antique" foodprocessor, something is missing on that web...
Maybe the kitchen items that are manufactured in Spain are outsourced to a private label manufacturer. Fagor, http://www.fagoramerica.com/appliances is a Spanish manufacturer of kitchen items including appliances. Also, at least two power hand tool manufacturers are located in spain, the Casals/Freud/Felisatti/Interskol Group, and Virutex. While not kitchen appliances manufacturers, similar technology would be involved, and Casals does a large amount of private label manufacturing.
Roverbo, thanks for your input. The website will be done shortly, I just need to increase product portfolio first - I have tiny inventory of Hazet products but I'm working on it.
For now please check my ebay shop - http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/milcraft - you can take 10% off everything if you were to buy from me direct or via GJ, or just drop me a line for accurate quote or multiple items.
Many thanks again for your interest
neophyte
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A few more USAG items. USAG 195/320 Flush Cut Bolt Cutters. Forged blades, Forged Handles, 320mm.( 12.5" ) long, Reversible cutters which give one an extra set of edges, Capacity 7.5mm diameter at 80Kg/mm and 4mm at 180Kg/mm. Seem to have been discontinued and replaced by the 196 series which uses tubular steel handles with plastic grips, and which are slightly longer. Sort of a shame, the forged ones were discontinued. I've had tubular steel handles flex in use. The forged handles give feedback so you can tell if your over cutting the capacity. I had to break something down that had a lot of hard drawn wire rod. Did a large number of cuts and the edges hardly look worn.
And larger versions http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8535770023/in/photostream
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neophyte
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USAG 328 Slotted and Crosshead Screwdrivers. Red acetate handles, blades from 4mm to 2mm in width, Matt black finished tips, that have a rough grind finish that works as micro-serations to hold in the screw slot. Also now discontinued. Also USAG 324 PH/ Se 4 Micro Cross-Head/Phillips screwdriver set. "Made in Italy", sizes 1, 0, 00, 000, nicely made, replaceable blades, convenient vinyl pouch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8535797689/in/photostream
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Have you got a USAG dealer over there, or importing them? I haven't seen any USAG in the UK that I can recall. Loads of Facom though so maybe it's a marketing strategy.
Hi neophyte, searched a little on "Braun Espana s.a." and found interesting stuff. This is from a spanish web-directory of companies (sorry for the very bad translation, the site was in spanish, so it´s google-translated, but you get the idea...).
"Today Braun (espana s.a.) has a factory equipped with the latest technology for the production of three product lines: blenders, irons and juicers. The location remains the same where pimer started business in Esplugues de Llobregat, Barcelona. The production volume exceeds seven million devices, which are more than fifty issued worldwide markets.
The main product was Multiquick pimer, the famous blender that has given its name to this product category. In Spain, a Multiquick blender. The first Minipimer left the assembly line in 1958. After more than 40 years, remains the undisputed leader, it was in Spain until the seventies and now it is worldwide.
.... Multiquick was a product almost exclusively for the Spanish market until the late seventies. The expansion to the whole Western Europe took place in the first half of the eighties. Then followed America. To support the introduction American, Braun built a new factory in Mexico, which began operations in 1985. The rest of Europe, and the Middle East and Asia Pacific, followed since 1990
Developing Multiquick is totally Spanish, although the exterior design follows the guidelines of the school unequivocal Braun in Frankfurt, Germany. Mexico remains the American arm, so that between the two factories covering the requirements of each geographic area in a fast and flexible. "
So, this explains my spanish Brauns, american readers of this site will probably notice "made in Mexico / Hecho en Mexico" on their devices..
neophyte
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Lastly a Benning MM3 Digital Multimeter(DMM) from "Benning Electrotechnik & Elektronik & Co. KG" of Bocholt Germany. http://de.benning.de/ http://de.benning.de/en/corporate/p...nts/digital-multimeter/benning-mm-1-mm-4.html It's an older meter design that lacks True RMS, but its really nicely made. I got it to replace a Harbor Freight CEN-TECH multimeter after opening up the Cen-Tech and deciding I didn't feel confident in it's safety. When I got the Benning I thought it was made in Germany. I later learned it might actually be made in Taiwan by APPA
, http://www.appatech.com/appa_index.php It still appears to be very high quality though. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crutheni/8535835881/in/photostream
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neophyte
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Hi neophyte, searched a little on "Braun Espana s.a." and found interesting stuff. This is from a spanish web-directory of companies (sorry for the very bad translation, the site was in spanish, so it´s google-translated, but you get the idea...).
So, this explains my spanish Brauns, american readers of this site will probably notice "made in Mexico / Hecho en Mexico" on their devices..
Thanks, that explains it. So the Europeans get Spanish production and the North Americans get Mexican
neophyte
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There is a USAG dealer in the USA but I haven't dealt with them. http://www.frenotec.com/catalog/ All of the USAG items I have I got of of Ebay a while ago from a seller who no longer seems to list stuff. There are still bits and pieces I need to get to fill some sets but it's not items frenotec has listed on their website so I've been a bit reluctant to contact them.
Les Brock
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exactly !
surprise surprise not china The Braun items i mostly see are all from China (Series 3,5 and 7 electric shavers from Germany). Some Bosch kitchen tools are from Slovenia but i thought that are the last EU products...There is a "Rowenta" coffee machine from France though and some Kitchen Aid products are still from the US iirc but the vast majority is from the the other country with the C (from asia) tool picture spamming is okThank you, Monte. I'm still building up an inventory so everything that's coming is getting photographed in the same fashion. I'll be slowly "spamming" here if you all don't mind
maybe they want to establish Bahco as (another) premium brand ?Monte, nice Bahco Ergo saw. It looks nice and your video gives a better sense of the saw than the official Bahco comercial does. I was actually considering getting one of those unfortunatelly for some reason they seam to be twice the cost in the USA as they are in Germany. Then the UK prices just make the German prices look bad. I get the distinct impression Snap-On has little interest in selling some Bahco items in the US.
hey leave some Hazet tools in the store for the other customers
nice growing collectionmade in Taiwan - you should be happy
a little bit flexibility of the tool box is good i think, if the "plastic" is too hard it cracks easier like my mini-systainer which fell down (empty) from about 1 meter on the concrete and a small piece from the lid broke off.
i´ve not yet seen "Spain" as coo but i´m also not really looking for kitchen tools
www.gossenmetrawatt.com might be from Germany (?)Lastly a Benning MM3 Digital Multimeter(DMM) from "Benning Electrotechnik & Elektronik & Co. KG" of Bocholt Germany. http://de.benning.de/ http://de.benning.de/en/corporate/p...nts/digital-multimeter/benning-mm-1-mm-4.html It's an older meter design that lacks True RMS, but its really nicely made. I got it to replace a Harbor Freight CEN-TECH multimeter after opening up the Cen-Tech and deciding I didn't feel confident in it's safety. When I got the Benning I thought it was made in Germany. I later learned it might actually be made in Taiwan by APPA
Bahco 2816 retractable knive
USAG screwdriver set, model 330/Se10 Combidrive handle. Can be used as either a regular straight shank screwdriver, or as a T handle driver. The T handle feature is incredibly useful for breaking loose really tight screws. The extra weight of the acetate handle also makes it easy to spin out looser screws once they're initially loosened. It uses 6mm blades like the Wiha system 6/ Drive-loc screwdrivers.
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Hello!
I'm so behind on reading this thread. Has not have time in almost a month. Will read up some now, but just though I should post a link to my new thread:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188010
And to contribute to this thread, I found this in a drawer in the garage. An old straight handle Bahco adjustable:
I'm so behind on reading this thread. Has not have time in almost a month. Will read up some now, but just though I should post a link to my new thread:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188010
And to contribute to this thread, I found this in a drawer in the garage. An old straight handle Bahco adjustable:
Re: 610n/8 rs
Hopefully not a stupid question, but what's a "life" profile?
now hazet is making them with a "life" profile??
Hopefully not a stupid question, but what's a "life" profile?
Laro13
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Re: 610n/8 rs
I don't get that too?
This week I bought this second-hand 18 piece Gedore 1B wrench set. It was only 48 euro's($63.-). Its 6mm to 22mm and 24mm.
Its almost new, only a few are used. A new 17 piece set go's for 150 euro's, so I had to buy it.
I think this is a relatively new set, because the finish is different. If you compare it with two older wrenches (new one in the centre), the chrome is different and the forging is a bit rougher.
I think Monte had told us already about this.
I think I like the old style more, but these wrenches will be used all the same.
I don't get that too?
This week I bought this second-hand 18 piece Gedore 1B wrench set. It was only 48 euro's($63.-). Its 6mm to 22mm and 24mm.
Its almost new, only a few are used. A new 17 piece set go's for 150 euro's, so I had to buy it.
I think this is a relatively new set, because the finish is different. If you compare it with two older wrenches (new one in the centre), the chrome is different and the forging is a bit rougher.
I think Monte had told us already about this.
I think I like the old style more, but these wrenches will be used all the same.
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neophyte
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Re: 610n/8 rs
Nice Gedore wrenches, and great price. Not to nitpick about grammar, but when you use the word "casting", I think you mean "forging". Sorry didn't know if this is wording got confused in translation.
I think this is a relatively new set, because the finish is different. If you compare it with two older wrenches (new one in the centre), the chrome is different and the casting is a bit rougher.
I think Monte had told us already about this.
Nice Gedore wrenches, and great price. Not to nitpick about grammar, but when you use the word "casting", I think you mean "forging". Sorry didn't know if this is wording got confused in translation.
neophyte
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maybe they want to establish Bahco as (another) premium brand ?
a little bit flexibility of the tool box is good i think, if the "plastic" is too hard it cracks easier like my mini-systainer which fell down (empty) from about 1 meter on the concrete and a small piece from the lid broke off.
www.gossenmetrawatt.com might be from Germany (?)
Bahco 2816 retractable knive
Bahco to a certain extent is, or at least was, a premium brand for woodworking tools. They used to be the go to company for the cabinet scrapers used by woodworkers. I haven't actually seen a dedicated woodworking store in the USA that even carries the Bahco EX saws. Most places that list them seem to be industrial supply places that just list most Bahco stuff.
Sorry about your mini systainer. I dropped one of the regular size systainers cases holding a Metabo sander about eight feet and it landed on it's corner. The corner looked slightly compressed but was otherwise fine. It's the reason I assumed the Systainer cases are more durable.
Gossen metrawatt are made in Germany from what I understand. There also supposedly one of the best meters available. Unfortunately cost is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. For the same cost I could probably buy three Flukes, two Hazet Assistents, or a new Mac laptop.Maybe someday.
Bahco knife looks nice. Looks like it may have good ergonomics. Most of the box cutters I've been seeing in local stores don't really thrill me.
The Metabo ads you posted. Are those actual "benchtop" sized tools, or are those "attachments" for Metabo drills. Also I know Metabo makes some small stationary tools for the European market. Is this a relatively new thing , or have they always done this.
Laro13
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My old world setup:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2964604&postcount=8906
- Pillar drill (Fobco), workbench and floor tiles (Ecotiles) were made in England
- Bench grinder was made in Denmark (KEF)
- Vice was made in Germany (Leinen)
- Cabinets were made in Switzerland (Lista)
- Soldering station in the bottom right corner was made in Germany (Weller)
Almost everything in the picture is second hand / restored stuff. The bench was welded and the tiles were new but discounted batch end.
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2964604&postcount=8906
- Pillar drill (Fobco), workbench and floor tiles (Ecotiles) were made in England
- Bench grinder was made in Denmark (KEF)
- Vice was made in Germany (Leinen)
- Cabinets were made in Switzerland (Lista)
- Soldering station in the bottom right corner was made in Germany (Weller)
Almost everything in the picture is second hand / restored stuff. The bench was welded and the tiles were new but discounted batch end.
Re: 610n/8 rs
"Life Profile" is a term used by UNIOR which is something more or less like "Flank Drive" (first patented by Snap-On) or the OGV profile by Facom.
It extends the "life" of the fasteners.
http://uniortools.com/media/Attachments/Rocno_orodje/Eng/mini_katalog_2011/01_wrenches.pdf
I don't think this type of profile is new for Hazet but they never mention it in their catalog.
"Life Profile" is a term used by UNIOR which is something more or less like "Flank Drive" (first patented by Snap-On) or the OGV profile by Facom.
It extends the "life" of the fasteners.
http://uniortools.com/media/Attachments/Rocno_orodje/Eng/mini_katalog_2011/01_wrenches.pdf
I don't think this type of profile is new for Hazet but they never mention it in their catalog.
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Nice set!!!
I know what you mean about the rough forging. It was a disappointment to me when I got my 1Bs and 7s. On the Gedore 7 wrench I have, the finish is so rough that you can barely read the words. The older finish is definitely better.
I don't get that too?
This week I bought this second-hand 18 piece Gedore 1B wrench set. It was only 48 euro's($63.-). Its 6mm to 22mm and 24mm.
Its almost new, only a few are used. A new 17 piece set go's for 150 euro's, so I had to buy it.
I think this is a relatively new set, because the finish is different. If you compare it with two older wrenches (new one in the centre), the chrome is different and the forging is a bit rougher.
I think Monte had told us already about this.
I think I like the old style more, but these wrenches will be used all the same.
Nice set!!!I know what you mean about the rough forging. It was a disappointment to me when I got my 1Bs and 7s. On the Gedore 7 wrench I have, the finish is so rough that you can barely read the words. The older finish is definitely better.
Miskin
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Axl the colors you chosen for your restored tools are awesome! Are these the original colours or it's yours choice?
Gedore side cutter. Small size (140 mm) for bike toolbag
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Nocturnal-G
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These just came in today! Decided to go with the 600N's over the Gedore.
Decided to go with the 600N's over the Gedore.
nice set ! I really like the 1B wrenches ....old or new.... use them and they will become more beautiful every time
i think for woodworking tools they still are, for mechanics tools no longer it seems (at least the tools in orange boxes, the professional tools in red boxes are seen nowhere). Most retailers also have dropped pretty much everything from Bahco except the saws...
maybe the larger ones are built thicker...didn´t measure the thickness....
but what do you need 3 Flukes two Hazet Assistents and a Mac laptop for ?
some Stanly knives are ok ...
These are advertisements for their hobby multi tool systems: a drill motor for which different attachments were available like a sander, circular saw, jig saw, scroll saw, wood lathe, hedge trimmer etc. Back in the days available also from other manufacturers like Bosch, AEG, Kress... My father has a AEG system which he still sometimes use (i think i posted some pics somewhere here).
The larger of the Metabo drill motors had a cover on the other end of the drill where a collet was underneath so you could attach a flexible shaft and had a die grinder with 20.000 rpm !
Metabo not only produce(d) electric hand held tools but also hand tools ("Metabo Rheidco"), stationary wood working machines ("Lurem"), drill presses ("Genko"), stationary belt sanders/polishers ("Metabo Polisys" now www.ibs-system.de), welders etc. (www.elektra-beckum.de (for a while also sold as Metabo in blue)) . The newer Metabo drill presses where made in cooperation with "Flott" (www.Flott.de). In the meantime these companies Metabo acquired over the years were sold or closed.
iirc Metabos own stationary machine tool production started in 1980 (?) ("Metabo Magnum")
These just came in today!
so what´s the first impression ?dustpan
www.Buerstenmann.de
Nocturnal-G
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Love them Monte! Danke für die Empfehlung, die Qualität ist top! Ich lerne die Sprache ... Ich liebe Deutschland und die Kultur, die Menschen, und vor allem die Qualität aller Produkte!
They are replacing my Craftsman RP wrenches...
Maexle
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Re: 610n/8 rs
all i can say, for that price: YOU deserve a: "YOU ****..... " congratulations...
I know what you mean about the rough forging. It was a disappointment to me when I got my 1Bs and 7s. On the Gedore 7 wrench I have, the finish is so rough that you can barely read the words. The older finish is definitely better.
all i can say, for that price: YOU deserve a: "YOU ****..... " congratulations...
Maexle
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Now, if Picasso had done that... Shamelessly using one of the pics as my desktop.
Second only to Pebble Plvmb visually. Full of envy over here.These just came in today!
*snip*
vssjim
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The E bay seller you bought stuff from was the left over tools from Eurotool that was an importer for many years in the LA area. The Frenotec company hardly stocks anything at all and are kind of slow with special orders unless they have fixed those problems. I was a Eurotool dealer back in the eighties and nineties, they placed the original order with USAG was when Ferrari was sponsored by them before that Beta was the sponsor and Eurotool sold that brand. I think it was in 1983 that the tool suppliers on Ferrari changed and when Eurotool placed the order they ordered multiple of every tool USAG listed in the catalog. The guy I used to deal with was Kurt and the owners name was Morris if I remember correctly. Morris was the owner of the SAE stereo components fame then assembled electronic components for other companies, just as a side note. Morris was also a freind to some of the Ferrari family and that is why the tool importer deal happened bacause he owned Ferrari's and sold the tools as a side deal because of the tie in to the cars and stars. The best selling item they had for years was the very affordable Ferrari Formula one sets.
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