Tools from the old world

[marlinspike]

i guess it depends on the country....in germany you mostly find imported no-name pliers in the big box stores, the professional dealers usually have Knipex, Hazet etc. or no-name german made locking pliers or Vise-Grip. Grip-On is not really available here, there was only one online store who offered them...Mostly you can find Grip-on pliers sold through other brands like Elora and Würth etc.

I guess what I meant wasn't what is the preferred source in Europe, but what made in Europe brand of locking pliers is the best.

 

[Monte]

I guess what I meant wasn't what is the preferred source in Europe, but what made in Europe brand of locking pliers is the best.

the best ? i dunno....maybe you´ll find the answer here: http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48722&highlight=locking+pliers+wezag

 

[Jure]

any info about this brand?

 

[Jure]

Re: 610n/8 rs

Hopefully not a stupid question, but what's a "life" profile?

"Life Profile" is a term used by UNIOR which is something more or less like "Flank Drive" (first patented by Snap-On) or the OGV profile by Facom.

It extends the "life" of the fasteners.

http://uniortools.com/media/Attachments/Rocno_orodje/Eng/mini_katalog_2011/01_wrenches.pdf

I don't think this type of profile is new for Hazet but they never mention it in their catalog.

thanks

 

[Miskin]

Holex bit set 50-piece
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The box is Taiwan for sure. Carolus has the same. I'm not sure about the bits, seems also Taiwanese

 

[marlinspike]

I saw an old post in this thread that Gedore was the only German brand making its own ratcheting wrenches. Is this still the case? The Hazets look uniquely Hazet is why I ask.

 

[admirer of a good tool]

Do not belive me. Make your choice. But I want to save your money.
Don't buy this.

Two mistakes together.

If you really need a wrench with automatic adjustment you should buy something like this (ridgid, reed, virax, proto, rothenberger...).

 

[admirer of a good tool]

I like this PR-joke from VBW: "Also you can cut needlenose pliers if they are too long"

 

[Monte]

any info about this brand?

www.romulus-pluemacher.de
a garden tool manufacturer.

I saw an old post in this thread that Gedore was the only German brand making its own ratcheting wrenches. Is this still the case? The Hazets look uniquely Hazet is why I ask.

afaik yes. The Hazet wrenches are not listed as "made in Germany", the wrench also don´t say "Germany". So the theory is the complete wrench or at least the mechanism is from Taiwan...





Klauke screwdriver: www.Klauke.com

 

[marcone]

Klauke screwdriver: www.Klauke.com

Looks allot like the Felo promo screwdriver...Same factory?

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Same factory?

Definitely !

 

[Monte]

Looks allot like the Felo promo screwdriver...Same factory?

yes should be made by Felo. The Xcelite driver too.







just figured out my camera has a black/white mode:

 

[superautobacs]

I saw an old post in this thread that Gedore was the only German brand making its own ratcheting wrenches. Is this still the case? The Hazets look uniquely Hazet is why I ask.

That's true, unless you're including the older laminated types. ...but I assume you're not.

Given the high price they are sold for, I'm going to assume that the wrenches are forged and finished by Hazet and then sent to Taiwan (probably Lea Way (Gearwrench)) for assembly, and then sent back to Remscheid.

Here's a shot of Hazet 600N next to 606 model:

 

[Monte]

pics don´t work...

 

[Jure]

www.romulus-pluemacher.de
a garden tool manufacturer

lol now that's funny they are still making them?

 

[marlinspike]

Anybody have a 916-1 Hazet ratchet and can measure the head for me (thickness and width)? Same goes for the Hazet 863-1.

 

[admirer of a good tool]

Does anyone know how I can get one of these Russian sockets sets sold to me in the USA?

http://niz.ru/vmchk/9-nabory-shofer...a.-tu-3926-026-05797687-2006.html?format=html

I really don't understand your choice.
But I can help you if you will help me.
For beginning.

It is absolutely not quick release. Sometimes I need a screwdriver to release socket.

It was made in 1999.

 

[tweedlestan]

I really don't understand your choice.
But I can help you if you will help me.
For beginning.

It is absolutely not quick release. Sometimes I need a screwdriver to release socket.

It was made in 1999.

I like Russian products in general, I'm wearing an old Soviet made watch as I type this. I've likes Russian stuff since I was a kid, I don't really know why.

That's a nice looking set you have there, and I like the photos of the ratchet mechanism. Pretty neat!

I'd be happy to help you out, what do you need?

 

[admirer of a good tool]

It is from USSR.

It is 14mm square drive.

It is made form "ХФ" steel. I think it is like 100CrV steel.

 

[admirer of a good tool]

I'd be happy to help you out, what do you need?

I will answer later.

 

[tweedlestan]

I will answer later.

OK, just let me know!

 

[Monte]

lol now that's funny they are still making them?

can´t find anything on their site, i believe that they bought these tools somewhere because that are not really garden tools....maybe they bought them here: www.paffrath-remscheid.de/

Anybody have a 916-1 Hazet ratchet and can measure the head for me (thickness and width)? Same goes for the Hazet 863-1.

i can measure the 916-1 tomorrow

It was made in 1999.

1999 ??? or 1899 ??? sorry







some new Hazet items for 2013:

flash light:

new pliers:

ratcheting inserts for torque wrenches:

new Torx set:

new screwdriver set:

pics borrowed from: http://heisse-nuesse.de


new bit sets:

Hazet Assistent 179 TXXL:

Torx and hex bit sockets with TIN coating:

more new goodies:
http://www.hazet.de/fileadmin/media/aktionen/sww_2013.pdf

 

[Monte]

Stahlwille news for 2013:

Stahlwille 512QR N - QuickRelease-Feinzahnknarre
1/2" dr. quick release fine tooth ratchet (60 teeth)

Elora news:

72 tooth 1/2" Elora ratchet 770-L1K

 

[Sami1000]

1000V safety toolset

 

[Hafen_Kafer]

that assistent, 179 TXXL, is so XXcking hard!!!!

 

[Monte]

that assistent, 179 TXXL, is so XXcking hard!!!!

yeah

 

[Roverbo]

1999 ??? or 1899 ??? sorry

Watch your tongue, Monte, I made a comment nearly like yours, but it has been deleted
If I have offended anyone with the post, please tell me...I did mention the Russian Lunar project in 1959, maybe thats a no-go on this site??? Just found it funny, the obvious difference between high-tech, and then these lo-tech tools.

 

[BK13]

new Torx set:

Must........ Have........

 

[Monte]

Watch your tongue, Monte, I made a comment nearly like yours, but it has been deleted
If I have offended anyone with the post, please tell me...I did mention the Russian Lunar project in 1959, maybe thats a no-go on this site??? Just found it funny, the obvious difference between high-tech, and then these lo-tech tools.

there were some problems with the forum today. They moved to a different server and some posts were deleted...:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191699
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191711

so no problems with your post i think

Must........ Have........

me....too.... and the other tools too

 

[BJ42LX]

new screwdriver set:

Wait, what?

Oh, Jens....

 

[marlinspike]

I really like that Stahlwille 1/2" drive ratchet. Debating if I like that more or the Hazet 916-1.

 

[tweedlestan]

1999 ??? or 1899 ??? sorry

That's the appeal of those tools!

Stahlwille news for 2013:

Stahlwille 512QR N - QuickRelease-Feinzahnknarre
1/2" dr. quick release fine tooth ratchet (60 teeth)

Ah, very nice!

 

[admirer of a good tool]

They destroyed my post. Moreover they deleted my pic from imageshack.
repost
Don't see it here.

 

[admirer of a good tool]

New VBW style vs old VBW style.
Competitor is ordinary plier.

Span

1/2'' pipe

3/4" pipe

1'' pipe

1 1/4" pipe

So for 1/2 and 3/4 old style is more comfortable (1" and 1,25" no difference).

BUT...
Old style plier can't grab 1" locknut. It is normal size nut (46mm).

New style can

result is
old ++
new +

If you are so strong that you can plumb 1" iron pipe with 10" pliers you can choose new VBW style.

Never the less you always can stand on them.

ps.
smooth coating is not so good as knipex non-slip plastic coating
so:
old (good handle span on 1/2" and 3/4" pipes, knipex non-slip plastic coating) +++
new (can grip 1" full size locknut) +

 

[Jure]

can´t find anything on their site, i believe that they bought these tools somewhere because that are not really garden tools....maybe they bought them here: www.paffrath-remscheid.de/

y it can be,all i know that my grandfather took them from the factory he used to work. it was back in 1951. lol

 

[jalfaro]

some new Hazet items for 2013:

new pliers:

new screwdriver set:

Nice pliers!!!

I have actual 810SPC/6 set, and I must admit that the are great, mainly the price. For other hand, about the color change, I think that's is better because the actual version generally looks dirty. In fact, in the beginning I always cleaned the handle but now not

Stahlwille news for 2013:

Stahlwille 512QR N - QuickRelease-Feinzahnknarre
1/2" dr. quick release fine tooth ratchet (60 teeth)

Elora news:

72 tooth 1/2" Elora ratchet 770-L1K

I always prefer European (and Japanese) ratchets version, over US version. But, always call my attention the fact that US versions come always with more teeths. After all rarely I need a ratchet with fine teeths.

I don't know, I think that this is more a marketing play

Ha, Now, the HAZET 8816F ratchet, is available again for here, just I need money for buying it.

 

[admirer of a good tool]

Does anyone know how I can get one of these Russian sockets sets sold to me in the USA?

http://niz.ru/vmchk/9-nabory-shofer...a.-tu-3926-026-05797687-2006.html?format=html

I found this yesterday.

It is made from "40X" steel (near 5140H).
Torque is 380 Nm (guarantee).
Price is 37,66$.

That is all i know.

 

[Rusik]

bought today
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[Jure]

found two heynen wrench i have borrowed long time ago from my ex gf's father lol,they were in my father's tool box,they are so smooth,i like em!

 

[Monte]

Anybody have a 916-1 Hazet ratchet and can measure the head for me (thickness and width)? Same goes for the Hazet 863-1.

916-1:
width: 41.9mm
height: 43.1mm

y it can be,all i know that my grandfather took them from the factory he used to work. it was back in 1951. lol

time to bring them back

I have actual 810SPC/6 set, and I must admit that the are great, mainly the price. For other hand, about the color change, I think that's is better because the actual version generally looks dirty. In fact, in the beginning I always cleaned the handle but now not

but you can see if they are dirty, the black ones might look clean but they might be dirty

I always prefer European (and Japanese) ratchets version, over US version. But, always call my attention the fact that US versions come always with more teeths. After all rarely I need a ratchet with fine teeths.

I don't know, I think that this is more a marketing play

depends on how many teeth do you really need...maybe 60 or 72 are enough.....or 80..... oh wait there is a 88 tooth ratchet......and look now a 100 tooth ....and tomorrow a 360 tooth ratchet

bought today

nice !






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