Tools from the old world

[bart1]

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And, like I said yesterday, some new Swedish made homeowner tools (bought during the last month):

Gränsfors Bruks Small Forest Axe.

http://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/products/forest-axes/gransfors-small-forest-axe/
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Hi Tomasino, Granfors makes great axes, but you might also consider S.A.Wetterlings, SAW axes: http://www.wetterlings.se/the/index.php
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GB are great axes, I bought one for my Dad a few years ago. More recently, I bought a SAW for myself. Both are fantastic tools, with the GB a little finer finished, I believe.

SAW does have a more attractive CEO, though

 

[ranw]

The newest member of the family

1993 Z-94

 

[north]

Nice ratchet. Do you have a particular use in mind for it, given the 'cumbersome' method of changing direction?

 

[Sami1000]

My latest find. 3/8" Bahco rachets. Both in very good shape.

 

[CanUK]

My latest find. 3/8" Bahco rachets. Both in very good shape.

Wow very nice!

 

[north]

Nice haul on the Bahco's. I especially like the Sweden model but wouldn't mind either of them. Bought locally or?

 

[Sami1000]

Well i kinda bought them from hands of people who just can't appreciate top quality hand tools. You know it's really pretty sad to hear that there are guys who throw away that kind of tools only to be able to get new nicely packed but Chinese/Taiwanese sets.

Well one mans trash, is a next mans treasure.

I also got a bunch of green handle screwdrivers and some other old Bahco stuff also. I'll try to post pictures later this week.

 

[ranw]

Nice ratchet. Do you have a particular use in mind for it, given the 'cumbersome' method of changing direction?

Call it compulsive shopping or marketing working both ways (I`m supposed to
help hand tools sales, no particular brand, and I`m so good at what I do that I even convinced myself to buy some)
I knew this forum was bad for my wallet from the moment I registered: "I don`t need those, but I want `em", "You can never have enough tools", etc.

 

[north]

That is the correct answer. You have advanced to the next round of tool buying...

 

[Roverbo]

GB are great axes, I bought one for my Dad a few years ago. More recently, I bought a SAW for myself. Both are fantastic tools, with the GB a little finer finished, I believe.

SAW does have a more attractive CEO, though

Wow, Bart1, and I thought I knew "everything" about them...

 

[Roverbo]

My latest find. 3/8" Bahco rachets. Both in very good shape.

Hi Sami - I´ve definately started collecting Bahco too late...these look terrific! The "Germany" one must be from the period where Bahco and Belzer was one company? I have Bahco stuff from my childhood (adjustable wrenches, screwdrivers, junior hacksaws) and some tools from my dad, but he is more like a fine mechanics guy, so socketry was something he used on the job, not at home. Recently i´ve bought fleemarket tools from here in Denmark and Sweden, and some new tools if i could find the real "made in sweden-Bahco" but oddly enough ratchets like yours have never showed up. Love that green colour...

 

[Monte]

For what is shown in the pictures the total was 1330:- SEK with VAT. A bit more than I had planned to spend, but I'm happy with what I bought.

those large Bahco side cutters alone usually cost a small fortune....
i think you did good
btw. the unknown Belzer screwdriver is a automatic screwholding screwdriver. Turn the ring clockwise, insert in a slotted screw and the screw will be locked automatically. At least thats what the catalog says

And, like I said yesterday, some new Swedish made homeowner tools (bought during the last month):

Looks like you have a lot to do

OK, more old tools - from our small, Swedish cottage:

nice treasures ! I wonder what nice old tools we would find in all those small swedish cottages if we knock at the doors

Wolf grinder resto now complete. I started with this:

Well done sir !

My latest find. 3/8" Bahco rachets. Both in very good shape.

translucent handles







Titania tweezers
www.titania-fabrik.de

 

[Tomassino]

GB are great axes, I bought one for my Dad a few years ago. More recently, I bought a SAW for myself. Both are fantastic tools, with the GB a little finer finished, I believe.

SAW does have a more attractive CEO, though

I agree. Made in Sweden too!

 

[Miskin]

Found these at work. Kukko double open end wrenches
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Unfortunately no COO. I guess Asia...

 

[Miskin]

Some ebay purchases
Gedore side cutter 160 mm, for my v-strom's toolbag.
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View media item 29279Alarm combination pliers. My first Alarm tool
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View media item 29663Belzer VDE PH 1 screwdriver
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View media item 29735A Drager special screwdriver!!??? Never heard of this brand. I bought it from curiosity. 8mm socket and a double blade, a flat and the other one is spanner bit, i think...
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[mr_jack]

...A Drager special screwdriver!!??? Never heard of this brand. I bought it from curiosity. 8mm socket and a double blade, a flat and the other one is spanner bit, i think...

Is it the same company that makes alcohol-testers?

 

[Miskin]

Is it the same company that makes alcohol-testers?

I think that's correct. I don't have more infos, Monte maybe knows some more.

 

[Hawk321]

I think that's correct. I don't have more infos, Monte maybe knows some more.

Dräger are known for medical and security equipment here...I guess...that they built "our" firefighter helmets (not sure about that).

Could be a special srewdriver for one of their helmets or gas masks.

 

[marcone]

Some ebay purchases
Gedore side cutter 160 mm, for my v-strom's toolbag.

That's an interesting choice for the V-Strom toolbag. Any use in particular?

 

[Miskin]

That's an interesting choice for the V-Strom toolbag. Any use in particular?

It's small, without plastic handle and very beautiful. And of course is a Gedore.

 

[mr_jack]

I think that's correct. I don't have more infos, Monte maybe knows some more.

Here in Bulgaria "Draeger" has become a byword for an alcohol-tester. Like in the US Channellocks are a byword for water pump pliers.

 

[Sami1000]

My whole "green" Bahco collection. Pair of pliers and few Belzer goodies too. Enjoy!

 

[Sami1000]

As a bonus my finally complete Saltus socket set from somewhere 80's. Btw, does anyone have experience Saltus tool quality these days? Company still exists, but i've never seen them being sold anywhere.

http://www.saltus-tools.com

 

[Sami1000]

Sorry about the photo quality. I'll try to get better shots next time.

 

[Bhae]

658kg of BGS tools:

SNAP ON:

UNIOR:

 

[north]

Gotta love the design trick on the Unior pipe wrench.

Thanks for the pics Bhae. Always enjoyable.

 

[Alfajuj]

I just got a NOS Hazet carburetor maintenance kit.
I think it's from the 80's

The number is 4500/7-11

Does anyone have an old catalog with this kit in it?

I'm not sure what kind of carburetors it was intended for but I bought it anyway

The purpose of most of the tools is self explanatory but for some, I am a bit mystified

If anyone can shed some light on the subject I would appreciate it.

Mystery tool no. 4513 even has a small "a" logo So the tooling is from before 1965
This 13mm one and the 14mm one are the most puzzling to me. I cannot fathom their purpose especially the the little sleeve over a slothead screwdriver tip which operates by a cam when you swivel it

 

[Roverbo]

A Drager special screwdriver!!??? Never heard of this brand. I bought it from curiosity. 8mm socket and a double blade, a flat and the other one is spanner bit, i think...

Dräger: German company, based in Lübeck, specialized in the Medico-, mining-, firefighting-, firepreventing- and rescuebusiness. 12.000 employees worldwide.
http://www.drager.de

 

[Roverbo]

I just got a NOS Hazet carburetor maintenance kit.
(...) I cannot fathom their purpose especially the the little sleeve over a slothead screwdriver tip which operates by a cam when you swivel it

Hi Alfajuj, nice set! Always nice with some new tools, that sets your brain spinning about their purpose...
Could it be a luxury version of this tool:
View media item 29751It´s a adjustment tool for the bottom screw (CO-adj.) on a Stromberg carburettor (also known as Zenith-stromberg). Available in slotted head version and allen key version. Found on many Volvos, Saabs, and even some Rover V8´s from the 80´s. You remove the oil-dampening piston and insert the tool.

 

[Alfajuj]

Hi Alfajuj, nice set! Always nice with some new tools, that sets your brain spinning about their purpose...
Could it be a luxury version of this tool:
View media item 29751It´s a adjustment tool for the bottom screw (CO-adj.) on a Stromberg carburettor (also known as Zenith-stromberg). Available in slotted head version and allen key version. Found on many Volvos, Saabs, and even some Rover V8´s from the 80´s. You remove the oil-dampening piston and insert the tool.

Thanks for the suggestion, I actually have that tool in allen key version back home. I used it for the Zenith-Stromberg carburetors on a Triumph TR-6 I had.(US market TR-6s didn't have fuel injection).
The tool that looks like a long screwdriver, 4519, has a tip that looks similar to the tool in your picture, but without the guide like your tool has, I think the rubber diaphragm would be damaged.

 

[Monte]

Here in Bulgaria "Draeger" has become a byword for an alcohol-tester. Like in the US Channellocks are a byword for water pump pliers.

http://www.draeger.bg/BG/bg/products/alcohol_drug_screening/

over here they are mostly known for the gas masks






Stokolan hand/skin care cream for after work
www.stoko.com

 

[Roverbo]

The tool that looks like a long screwdriver, 4519, has a tip that looks similar to the tool in your picture, but without the guide like your tool has, I think the rubber diaphragm would be damaged.

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Hmm...the Stromberg diaphragm has a big hole in the middle, and this is where the adjustment tool comes down. So no damage... Of course, you´ll have to be more carefull without the guide. Just a guess though - there´s probably more types of carburretors than we ever know.

 

[Alfajuj]

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Hmm...the Stromberg diaphragm has a big hole in the middle, and this is where the adjustment tool comes down. So no damage... Of course, you´ll have to be more carefull without the guide. Just a guess though - there´s probably more types of carburretors than we ever know.

I know that the diaphragm has a hole in the middle
The inside is connected to the piston and the outside is connected to the carburetor body.
I mean the diaphragm will be damaged from twisting. The guide on that special tool you showed has a notch that keeps the piston from turning while you adjust the needle. If the piston is allowed to turn, it will rip the diaphragm.
Without the guide, the only way to adjust would be to remove the piston.

 

[Roverbo]

I know that the diaphragm has a hole in the middle

Ooops...too long since i´ve touched a non-injection car... Funny how I can forget - really spend some time with a double-zenith 1976 RangeRover once - to get the two in balance - just by the hissing sound - aquarium tubing into both my ears - phew...

 

[Alfajuj]

Ooops...too long since i´ve touched a non-injection car... Funny how I can forget - really spend some time with a double-zenith 1976 RangeRover once - to get the two in balance - just by the hissing sound - aquarium tubing into both my ears - phew...

There's a classic British balancing tool I used to use from the UK called a Unisyn to guage the vacuum to balance the carburetors.
As an experiment, I balanced first by listening to the hiss. I though I had them balanced pretty well, then I checked it with the Unisyn. It was way off!

The unisyn doesn't work well for 2 cylinder motorcycles, though. The vacuum varies too much and the red balancer bob bounces all over the place. You need the mercury kind of balancer for that.

 

[JoeMk1]

Draper 4 1/2" pliers made in West Germany

Older than me
Are there any quick tips for removing the light rust before I oil them?

Also, does anyone know who the manufacturer might be? Draper in an importer/rebrander. Maybe Knipex, as the current Draper 'Expert' pliers are Knipex, as seen on the packaging of my Cobras:

 

[jose1977]

658kg of BGS tools:

en esos pallets hay herramientas para mi
in this pallet are any tools for my

 

[s_pellegrino]

PB Swiss combination Pozidriv/Slotted 50mm bit in a 1/4" drive Zyklop. Waited on a site for three hours to replace this little plastic contactor.

 

[Alfajuj]

Draper 4 1/2" pliers made in West Germany

Older than me
Are there any quick tips for removing the light rust before I oil them?

Cool old pliers. They could very well be Knipex, or one of many brands

Anyway...

Actually, there's a really excellent method that I just tried today and it works astonishingly well on things which are just lightly rusted, like your pliers:

You won't believe it, but just use some aluminum foil and sprinkle on some water and rub. You don't need to scrub hard. just keep it wet and the aluminum reacts with the rust. You'll start to see the water turn gray.
The best part is the aluminum won't scratch the chrome plating and will leave it exactly the appearance as original (as long as it's not pitted). That's especially important on tools that have a matte finish, like Hazet wrenches. Other harsher methods can easily change that finish texture and leave it looking scrubbed. Just make sure that it is clean before you start. If there's grit, then that will scratch it. You can wad the aluminum up to press into depressions. Try it, it works fast.
Then just oil it when you're done with something like WD40.

 

[Applesauce]

658kg of BGS tools:

A lot of those look like tools from the New World...

What's the story on Unior? I did a few cursory searches, and they appear to make A LOT of bicycle tools - an odd niche for most industrial tool makers. I'm thinking I'm going to have to give some a try!