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CanUK

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..and our 3-year old recieved this from "Sinterklaas" (dutch Santa):

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Brilliant! I have a 2.5yo who would love that. What's the part number please? :thumbup:
 
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What happened to the "old world" part of this thread? Most of the recent posts seem to be showing off brand new stuff. Aren't there 50 other threads for posting new tools? :lol_hitti
 

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What happened to the "old world" part of this thread? Most of the recent posts seem to be showing off brand new stuff. Aren't there 50 other threads for posting new tools? :lol_hitti
Tools from the Old World, not old tools from the Old World. :beer:
 
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Day 9 should be interesting.
SROV ?
indeed :)
The pliers are nice...but no coo on the tool...



day 9:












tools in action:



cutting staples:


removing staples:


tin snips in action:


drilling out more rivets:


mess:


more mess:


impact:


ooops:


jack in action:


removing the fender....:


...and hose clamps...:
 

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Are the 600 SPC/10 Combination Wrench Set in the Hazet special offers pdf the same as 600N?
I already have 600N/8. Might easier to pickup missing 12.
Seems the spc/10 is more jap car friendly (8,10,12,14).
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600 N-	_  10  11   __  13  14  15  __  17  __  19  22
SPC/10	8  10  __   12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  __
 

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My first Facom metric wrench set purchase! I bought it from Zoro Tools for around $75 shipped. They had a $5 off $25+ purchase plus free shipping promotion last week. This is the FM-31.JE6T "Slim" (tappet), 8-19mm set. The set is made in France. Enjoy the pics below :drool:




















On a previous thread by member "toolaholic" here, the FM-31.JE6T set he purchased from Zoro Tools about 2 months ago was manufactured in Italy. Interesting!


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What happened to the "old world" part of this thread? Most of the recent posts seem to be showing off brand new stuff. Aren't there 50 other threads for posting new tools? :lol_hitti

:lol: I feel kind of the same way, kp, because i´ve seen this thread like "a walk down memory lane" - a bit nostalgic - dad and uncles tools. But the positive thing about the new tools, is their availability. If you see something you like, you can get it, and not after years of search on the fleamarkets. And positive that so many tools are still made in "the old world". It´s easy to fall into the ditch of being an old grumpy man, like "nothing is like in the old days" - but this thread has in a way pulled me up, starting buying more new, and sometimes better, tools. Hell, not like a newborn christian, but you get the point...:p
 

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Tools from the Old World, not old tools from the Old World. :beer:

:lol: I feel kind of the same way, kp, because i´ve seen this thread like "a walk down memory lane" - a bit nostalgic - dad and uncles tools. But the positive thing about the new tools, is their availability. If you see something you like, you can get it, and not after years of search on the fleamarkets. And positive that so many tools are still made in "the old world". It´s easy to fall into the ditch of being an old grumpy man, like "nothing is like in the old days" - but this thread has in a way pulled me up, starting buying more new, and sometimes better, tools. Hell, not like a newborn christian, but you get the point...:p

Ooooh, my bad fellas. I honestly thought it was an "old tools" thread. I guess that's my dyslexia acting up again. Don't mind me.
 

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Ooooh, my bad fellas. I honestly thought it was an "old tools" thread. I guess that's my dyslexia acting up again. Don't mind me.

Your punishment; Go back to page 1 and re-read all 881 pages :)
 

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Are those brake line wrenches? Personally I have never worked on brake lines, apart from changing/bleeding brake fluid.

I would call them flare nut wrenches, but yes at least in my case they'll mostly be used on brakes, occasionally oil lines and maybe the odd bit of plumbing.
 
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They look nice.

I have been told all red & black handled Wiha Pliers are SROV.
Which is kind of a downer.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3535927&postcount=8
yeah most likely since they bought a vietnamese pliers factory...

Are the 600 SPC/10 Combination Wrench Set in the Hazet special offers pdf the same as 600N?
I already have 600N/8. Might easier to pickup missing 12.
Seems the spc/10 is more jap car friendly (8,10,12,14).
the wrenches are the same. The "SPC" labeled tools are just some special sets/tools for the special offer catalog








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Witte impact bit and 1/4"->1/4" adaptor:


 

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I'm not certain, but those flare nut wrenches may be made by SAM Outillage.

I've seen noticed some similarities in other SAM/Facom tools. Of course if we take that leap, it'd then be also plausible that Facom made them for SAM.

They do have a nice solid/dense feel and a relatively thick beam, which leads me to believe they're European at least. I've no reason to doubt what's on the UG site as he typically gets that info of the mandatory(?) US labels. All his Facom packaging seems to have COO.
 
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I've seen noticed some similarities in other SAM/Facom tools. Of course if we take that leap, it'd then be also plausible that Facom made them for SAM.

They do have a nice solid/dense feel and a relatively thick beam, which leads me to believe they're European at least. I've no reason to doubt what's on the UG site as he typically gets that info of the mandatory(?) US labels. All his Facom packaging seems to have COO.

COO is a legal requirement in the USA. I'm not sure but he may have Stanley special order some of the items for him. My understanding was that the Facoms French wrench manufacturing locating was shut down, so if they were still made in a Facom facility they would be manufactured in Italy. SAM still manufactures that style wrench, model number 104-H.

http://www.sam-outillage.fr/catalogue-sam?view=cataloguesam&fm=4337&fam1=8&aFam2[]=95&nNum_PM=6

The flanged style of flare nut wrench is sort of unusual. I've seen offset one from one of the German companies, but otherwise the only wrenches of that style I've seen are from France.
 

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Facom punch set also bought from ZORO tools on ebay. At $50 I couldn't pass it up, especially when I'm in the need for some nice punches.


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I'm pretty impressed with these punches so far. I'm contemplating picking up a set of the Facom Multi-Punch set as well. I'm thinking it would be a perfect set for firearm maintenance.
 

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Oh dear, not again :sad: You've got some tid-bits of truth in there together with some exaggeration and wrong information.

Firstly Farnell is often wrong about COO, so I wouldn't rely on it as fact.

Secondly, the flare nut spanner you linked may very well be made in Taiwan, but it's also a different model/series of spanner, and not a case of new vs old.

The majority (per their website) of Facom's products are still made in Europe. The round head ratchets are made in Italy, the sealed head ratchets are made in Taiwan -both are current (and both are lovely) so it's also not a case of new vs old. Screwdrivers are made in France, 440 spanners were I believe ultimately attributed to one or two locations in Europe (Czech sticks in my mind - Farnell says Italy though - possibly both?), and so on...

http://www.facom.com/fr-en/i-59-Manufacturer.html

No offence intended, and I'm not actually bothered about the "where" as long as the tool is nice; I do think it pays to try and be factual (or at least clear where we're speculating)
or rumours and misinformation get perpetuated, and that doesn't help anyone.

EDIT: I thought I was having a deja vu moment, but we have covered this exact ground before: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3436789&postcount=17154
...so I'm left curious why you persist?

I am bothered, because you pay 'made in europe' prices for a Taiwan made product. That's why I don't want Facom tools if I can buy Gedore, Hazet or Stahlwille for the same price (or less).
 

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I am bothered, because you pay 'made in europe' prices for a Taiwan made product. That's why I don't want Facom tools if I can buy Gedore, Hazet or Stahlwille for the same price (or less).

I'm only saying that it doesn't bother me in an attempt qualify that I'm not on a brand-loyalty-rant. The greater point is that most of what Facom sells IS still made in Europe, yet it comes up all too often that people make declarations to the contrary. That doesn't help anybody (particularly people concerned about COO) make an informed choice.

The German brands you named all make or source parts of their product lines overseas as well. Then there's the question of the (apparently slack -as covered in another thread) requirements for stamping "Made in Germany" on something, so I'm not convinced that's anything to go by if you feel so strongly about it.
 
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Facom punch set also bought from ZORO tools on ebay. At $50 I couldn't pass it up, especially when I'm in the need for some nice punches.
that´s a pretty good price !!:shocking::thumbup:
promo price over here €76.- + 19% tax...:mad:






day 12 of the Wiha calendar....:







...and some more 11mm Koken bits arrived:


...and a bit holder for long 1/4" bits:

 

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I finished the restoration of my old Creusen bench grinder (Made in Holland :beer:):

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Also notice our Belgian beer here :drool: =>

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The polished chrome also is an eyecather now :cool: =>

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