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*snip*

Nice to get a PayPal experience in the mix also. Did you manage to escape import costs?

And also, shame on you for not posting a picture of the goods!

Bah! Shame accepted. *Puts on funny hat and goes to sit in the corner*

I've edited my previous post.

Value was below the limit so no extra charge.
 

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Looking at that picture, I was thinking to myself how nice that drill is situated in your hand. Very ergonomic indeed.
i tried virtually all drills available in germany and the Fein "BOP" drills were the most ergonomic i could find.....My recommendation :)

Cool. Can I request for a demo of this tool in action?
yes, i will do one ....:thumbup:

meanwhile some youtube vids:
EU: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bosch gsc&sm=12
USA: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bosch ps70&sm=3

It works best with thinner material like 1mm or below and if you cut small strips or trim the edges. Basically a replacement for tin snips. Then the sheet metal also don´t deform. If you want to cut a large sheet into half it´s better to use nibblers or slitting shears.


 

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Here is a rare action shot I guess is not seen too much in the "old world".
A Witte 3/8th nut driver in action.

Let's see how good Google translate is.
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I have some Italian guys over here installing a machine in my plant. They had a pretty cool case of hand tools. It is a Wurth case similar to a Pelican, full of USAG with some Hazet, Facom, Beta, etc. I didn't get any pics because I'm sure they would think I was a lunatic. ;)
 

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I don't usually go out of my shop to do any work but I'm baby sitting a friend's truck while he's out of the country for a year. I had to put a new battery in it so I gathered up a few tools and headed over there. Sure as shite I needed something I didn't bring along. That prompted me to throw a road kit together using a bunch of my extras I've been accumulating and this fine old 803TA I've had laying around empty. It's got 1/2 and 3/8 SAE and MM as well as both types of wrench sets and any thing else I thought would be needed.



I picked up this Lobster adjustable just because I didn't own any Lobster tools yet and had to have one.



Here is a Hazet (now in my road box) and Bahco adjustables:

 

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Bosch GSC 10,8 V-LI (Bosch PS70) metal shear

I can see that yours is made in 2009 - in Switzerland (Scintilla SA i guess). :drool: Have they moved production to Malaysia by now?

(...) In the mean time here's some fairly vintage Matador stuff. I'm not sure of the vintage but the sockets are marked in both AF and UN sizes presumably from one of the now defunct unified thread forms.

Ahhh...Ein echter Matador ..love that old logotype.

Here is a rare action shot I guess is not seen too much in the "old world".
A Witte 3/8th nut driver in action.

Let's see how good Google translate is.
Meine Schneefräse ist kaputt!

:lol: Hi upgrading, snowplows are quite common here in scandinavia. Maybe not so much here in Denmark, since we live so close that snowplowing is a municipal task, but in Sweden and Norway. In swedish: Min slöslunga är bruten.
 
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Very good !
:):thumbup:

very nice box + tools ! I like those old Hazet round head ratchets :drool:

I can see that yours is made in 2009 - in Switzerland (Scintilla SA i guess). :drool: Have they moved production to Malaysia by now?
The current model is still labeled "Made in Switzerland". The "head" of the tools is made by Trumpf in Switzerland. I guess the motor is from Malaysia, but the head is worth more than 50% of the end-product so i guess the labeling would be correct...

btw. my Bosch collection :)
 

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Jealous of the $99 grinder, but 110v only. Closer to $250 here in oz.

Fein Multimaster & Hammer Drill Combo Kit

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Renovation Kit includes:
1 cordless hammer drill/driver ASB14
1 cordless MultiMaster AFMM 14
2 Li-ion batteries 14.4 Volts / 4 Ah
1 rapid charger ALG 50
1 plastic tool case
1 E-Cut long-life saw blade

This looks like a good deal $399.
Does anyone know if charger is universal or not?
 

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i tried virtually all drills available in germany and the Fein "BOP" drills were the most ergonomic i could find.....My recommendation :)


yes, i will do one ....:thumbup:

meanwhile some youtube vids:
EU: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bosch gsc&sm=12
USA: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bosch ps70&sm=3

It works best with thinner material like 1mm or below and if you cut small strips or trim the edges. Basically a replacement for tin snips. Then the sheet metal also don´t deform. If you want to cut a large sheet into half it´s better to use nibblers or slitting shears.



Thanks. :thumbup:



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I like those old Hazet round head ratchets :drool:


:+1: I agree with you. A co-worker has one of those ratchets (beautiful design, btw), and it's super smooth. Really broken-in ratchet, I suppose.



Fein Multimaster & Hammer Drill Combo Kit
This looks like a good deal $399.
Does anyone know if charger is universal or not?

Sorry, don't know the answer, but that does sound like a pretty good price.
 

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Hi all, can you help me identify these wrenches, which I bought from a local flea market?
I guess the first one is German made, because of the CHROM-VANADIUM mark on the back side

The second one also is German probably, because it again has CHROM-VANADIUM marking, on the other side I can read ...RWERK



The third one is the biggest mystery, because the only mark is this logo

 
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Hi.Been a lurker for some time,so time to make a post.Starting with some Geilo tools from norway.Geilo stopped production of tools in june 2012,and the company closed its doors in december the same year.The director said to a newspaper it was sad,but mowing production to china was not an option,they wanted to sell a norwegian product.
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First time i post ,so unsure if the pictures will show. Cheers from northern norway.
 

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Well greetings !

Too bad they had to close. Good that they wanted to keep it Norwegian.

Those punches and chisels look really nice.
 

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My small Saltus collection.The flexi joint wrench belonged to my grandfather,unsure how old it is.The angled ring spanners are nos,missing the 8x9.Do anybody know ( Monte maybe) if Saltus forge their own tools,or are they produced by some other brand? I see some of their tools are made by other companies but unsure about wrenches,ratches and sockets.
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Well greetings !

Too bad they had to close. Good that they wanted to keep it Norwegian.

Those punches and chisels look really nice.


Yeah,im actually surpriced they survived until 2012.in general their tools had good quality.In my town wich was built on industry,it is hard to find tools that are not from Asia.Geilo also made tools that are handy when you are living in a cold climate.Bryter isen-breaks the ice
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Last for today,Beta 1/2 socket set from the early nineties.All marked Italy except for the 17mm socket wich i had to buy since the old one dissapeared.I emailed Beta to hear where the new ones are made.......but no answer.
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Welcome to GJ Vidar.

Too bad about Geilo (and Kongsberg for that matter) but I guess it is what it is.
 

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Bah! Shame accepted. *Puts on funny hat and goes to sit in the corner*

I've edited my previous post.

Value was below the limit so no extra charge.

That's more like it! ;)

:lol: Hi upgrading, snowplows are quite common here in scandinavia. Maybe not so much here in Denmark, since we live so close that snowplowing is a municipal task, but in Sweden and Norway. In swedish: Min slöslunga är bruten.

Well, I have to disagree there. No one would say "bruten", since that is more like snapped (as in bent until broken). "Trasig" would be the word to use. :) You sure speak better swedish than I speak danish though...

My latest acquisitions:

I bought the KS-tools magnetic inserts. Still aim to get the Koken Nut-Grips, but these were cheap enough to get in the meantime.
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The inserts split and before insertion. I chose to put them in my Bahco S-line 3/8" set.
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Inserted. You can see that the depth of the sockets vary a bit.
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With bolts in. The 10mm there is some length unused. The 13mm is fully filled by the bolt. The 17mm and 19mm have about 2mm free.
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They are not super strong, but do manage to hold a bolt in. All but the 10mm worked fine with the socket tray also. The 10mm no longer slides down the pin though. I will keep them in.

Thor size A copper/rawhide hammer.
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I have to say quality inspection is not flawless though. The copper insert is a bit crooked, and the head is not totally straight on the handle.
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Here you can see how small it is.
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And finally, some English made chemicals.
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(...)a: Well, I have to disagree there. No one would say "bruten", since that is more like snapped (as in bent until broken). "Trasig" would be the word to use. :) You sure speak better swedish than I speak danish though...

(...)b: Thor size A copper/rawhide hammer.
I have to say quality inspection is not flawless though. The copper insert is a bit crooked, and the head is not totally straight on the handle.

As to (a) :eek: Yeah, I had that word on my tongue "Trasig", but just couldn´t find it...
My swedish is as good/bad as film director Bille August´s, i think...maybe a little better - when i´m in sweden, i speak basic swedish, although many swedes switches to english to answer me...always makes me feel embaressed...i have even started taking swedish snus to fit in ...:wtf:
(b): Hey, what did you expect? It´s a genuine english tool, mate! :D
Always "semi-trasig" but with lots of attitude.
 

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Bought a Hazet double box-end wrench (aka starter- and block wrench) 11x13 for the hard to reach nuts:



And to replace my crappy impact drill a new one from Bosch (Boschhammer PBH 2100 RE):

 
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Does anyone know if charger is universal or not?

the German one is 220/230 Volt. The US version might be 110 Volt only ??



just a quick preview :)

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The third one is the biggest mystery, because the only mark is this logo
Maybe chinese or Japanese ?

My small Saltus collection.The flexi joint wrench belonged to my grandfather,unsure how old it is.The angled ring spanners are nos,missing the 8x9.Do anybody know ( Monte maybe) if Saltus forge their own tools,or are they produced by some other brand? I see some of their tools are made by other companies but unsure about wrenches,ratches and sockets.
unfortunately i can´t help you...Maybe they only make torque wrenches ??

I have to say quality inspection is not flawless though. The copper insert is a bit crooked, and the head is not totally straight on the handle.
How are the heads attached ? Can they be pressed in with a vice maybe ?











Stahlwille upgraded their ratchet handle design for all of their ratchets:
(except flex head)

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As to (a) :eek: Yeah, I had that word on my tongue "Trasig", but just couldn´t find it...
My swedish is as good/bad as film director Bille August´s, i think...maybe a little better - when i´m in sweden, i speak basic swedish, although many swedes switches to english to answer me...always makes me feel embaressed...i have even started taking swedish snus to fit in ...:wtf:
(b): Hey, what did you expect? It´s a genuine english tool, mate! :D
Always "semi-trasig" but with lots of attitude.

I think the old trope of "Danes and norwegians can understand swedish, but swedes can't understand danish or norwegian" is very accurate. And I don't think any country is as overly smug about being good at english than us also, so that might be a thing with switching to english also :)
Snus is horrible though, the smell! Better than smoking still I guess...

Things that you love even though they're crappy? I though that was a italian thing? At least that's what I gathered from Alfa Romeo owners... :)

Grinding paste to lap valves?

Yep

How are the heads attached ? Can they be pressed in with a vice maybe ?

I think the rawhide face would be damaged if I tried. Don't know how they're attached though. Found this http://www.thorhammer.com/thor_hammer_refacing_hammers.pdf and it seems it is a press fit.
 

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Most of my handtools I use regularly are from Kraftwerk. I'm pretty happy with them, but in time I'd like to upgrade to Hazet.
One of the things I'm not so happy about are the handles of the following 2 items that have a problem.
The screwdriver-handle is already replaced under warrenty, but also the new one is not OK anymore: the handle can rotate (almost 360 degrees) around the metal rod.
The ratchet slided off this weekend and isn't stuck anymore on the metal rod.

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A closeup of the rod and the way the handle is SUPPOSED to stay stuck: :confused:

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So.. now I'm wondering how this is designed/attached with the topbrands, like Hazet. Anyone with a example? Can I rely on the handle, that they don't slide off in time? :dunno:
 
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As to (a) :eek: Yeah, I had that word on my tongue "Trasig", but just couldn´t find it...
My swedish is as good/bad as film director Bille August´s, i think...maybe a little better - when i´m in sweden, i speak basic swedish, although many swedes switches to english to answer me...always makes me feel embaressed...i have even started taking swedish snus to fit in ...:wtf:
(b): Hey, what did you expect? It´s a genuine english tool, mate! :D
Always "semi-trasig" but with lots of attitude.

Basically it's quite rude if they turn to english when you have made the effort to speak 'scandinavian'. Norwegian isn't a problem to most swedes, at least bokmål isn't. Pure Danish can be tricky though, but the 'swedified' 'scandinavian' shouldn't be. I have a few danish friends among the scandinavian ex pats in Estonia, and if they only spit out a small chunk of the porridge and maybe swedify numbers, it's no problem to follow them, to my mind.
 

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Geilo stopped production of tools in june 2012,and the company closed its doors in december the same year.The director said to a newspaper it was sad,but mowing production to china was not an option,they wanted to sell a norwegian product.

Sorry to hear about Geilo. Until asian imports flooded Sweden, Geilo funny enough was kind of a cheaper alternative, sold by many Iron mongers. Today thinking of anything norwegian as cheap, is, well, counter intuitive or how to put it. Not cheapo, but cheaper than then market leading Bahco. Quality quite ok, though not like Bahco of that time. Perhaps in the same upper medium segment as todays Bahco. I still have one or two Geilo screw drivers.
 

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My small Saltus collection.The flexi joint wrench belonged to my grandfather,unsure how old it is.The angled ring spanners are nos,missing the 8x9.Do anybody know ( Monte maybe) if Saltus forge their own tools,or are they produced by some other brand? I see some of their tools are made by other companies but unsure about wrenches,ratches and sockets.
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I have some Saltus tools as well, and very good they are too!

I also have a Saltus catalogue, supplied to me by their U.K. Distributor, and as far as I can see, Saltus forge, machine and finish their own tools!

To be fair, the only 'Saltus made' tools seem to be their wrenches, sockets and accessories. The other items in the catalogue appear to be rebranded, but they are obviously manufactured by reputable companies in Germany so that's not a big problem!

They make some really nice Stuff, some of it unique to Saltus (confirming their manufacturer status) some of it similar to, but nicer than, the competition!

Most of their tools are finished in a shiny chrome, which is unusual for a European company, but coupled with German quality and reasonable prices there's not much to dislike here!
 

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I have some Saltus tools as well, and very good they are too!

I also have a Saltus catalogue, supplied to me by their U.K. Distributor, and as far as I can see, Saltus forge, machine and finish their own tools!

To be fair, the only 'Saltus made' tools seem to be their wrenches, sockets and accessories. The other items in the catalogue appear to be rebranded, but they are obviously manufactured by reputable companies in Germany so that's not a big problem!

They make some really nice Stuff, some of it unique to Saltus (confirming their manufacturer status) some of it similar to, but nicer than, the competition!

Most of their tools are finished in a shiny chrome, which is unusual for a European company, but coupled with German quality and reasonable prices there's not much to dislike here!

I visited the Saltus website some time ago and discovered they are now a part of the Atlas copco group.I have noticed their screwdrivers are made by Witte.
 

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Some more norwegian tools Brødrene Øyo= Øyo brothers are still operative today,mostly producing knives,also based in Geilo, Norway. The square angle was made by Rosenwinge,cant find anything about that company,so probably long gone.
 

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Mustad screwdrivers i havent seen here before,Mustad is a norwegian brand but there is no coo.The pozidrive nr 3 is marked vanadin germany import on the backside,old Wera?
 

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Sorry to hear about Geilo. Until asian imports flooded Sweden, Geilo funny enough was kind of a cheaper alternative, sold by many Iron mongers. Today thinking of anything norwegian as cheap, is, well, counter intuitive or how to put it. Not cheapo, but cheaper than then market leading Bahco. Quality quite ok, though not like Bahco of that time. Perhaps in the same upper medium segment as todays Bahco. I still have one or two Geilo screw drivers.


Tjenare.Geilo was a quite small manufacturer of tools,so i guess they had less money for developmement then their swedish cousin Bahco.10 years ago you could buy Geilo tools in most hardware stores in norway.Today mostly asian.Actually fish from norway is sent from norway to china,and shipped back to norway as various products.Something in my head tells me shipping is to cheap.....
 
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