No need to be embarrassed. They need the practice.I know that, i just try to avoid it...
Tools from the old world
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mr_jack
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It's a coincidence. accident
There are just 3 or 4 types of powertools that are still made in the bulgarian factory of Sparky in Lovech, my friend.
The big anglegrinders, that you call "bolgarka", and the big 2-speed drills are made in Bulgaria. Everything else is imported from China and packed here. I'm not sure if they assemble the tools here.
The quality is low. Not like the old tools labeled "ELTOS (Elprom Lovech)" that lasted at least 15-20 years ...
There are just 3 or 4 types of powertools that are still made in the bulgarian factory of Sparky in Lovech, my friend.
The big anglegrinders, that you call "bolgarka", and the big 2-speed drills are made in Bulgaria. Everything else is imported from China and packed here. I'm not sure if they assemble the tools here.
The quality is low. Not like the old tools labeled "ELTOS (Elprom Lovech)" that lasted at least 15-20 years ...
It is unfortunate that the tool company Sparky made in China. We have great respect for Sparky. During Soviet times, it was practically the only import the appliance. Yes. The word "bolgarka" as their tures of those times.
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On the way back home from cologne I drove through the “blade city” Solingen and the tool cities Remscheid and Wuppertal.
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Dear Monte,
... my sincere
congratulations to the greatest post here ever.
Even though, you gave the game away about your true identity (you took a pic of yourself in the WERA entrance and now, we have proof that you are the greatwst tool-nutter here on GJ (for those who were not sure yet only).
Keep going on
yours
oeyniman
On the way back home from cologne I drove through the “blade city” Solingen and the tool cities Remscheid and Wuppertal.
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Carl Walter Schraubwerkzeug-Fabrik GmbH & Co. KG
Hahnerberger Str. 82
42349 Wuppertal[/QUOTE]
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Dear Monte,
... my sincere
congratulations to the greatest post here ever.Even though, you gave the game away about your true identity (you took a pic of yourself in the WERA entrance and now, we have proof that you are the greatwst tool-nutter here on GJ (for those who were not sure yet only).
Keep going on
yours
oeyniman
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Dear Monte,
... my sincere
Even though, you gave the game away about your true identity (you took a pic of yourself in the WERA entrance and now, we have proof that you are the greatwst tool-nutter here on GJ (for those who were not sure yet only).
Keep going on
yours
oeyniman
Is that Monte's signature graffiti on the Gedore building?
admirer of a good tool
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Knipex 30 to 35 HRC. Alarm 25 to 30 HRC(three measurments).
Are you still alive? You are destroyer of german brands.
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Miskin
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You are still alive? You are destroyer of german brands.
Don't give 'em ideas! You saw how many german tool companies exist? Imagine all those chasing me?
Wished I had known about Cologne fair, I could have adjusted my time in Germany. Was it trade only? I expect to be in Europe again similar time next year.
I drove to Remscheid and Wuppertal from Mainz on 26 Feb. I hadn't even parked the car in the Hazet parking lot, before the guard chap from the office came out and advised it was for staff only... I explained I only planned to take a couple of photos.
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upgrading
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Anyone able to explain more about these Felo screwdrivers shown in another thread ?
Is this a special Hi-viz version ?
I can't find any link for it.
Is this a special Hi-viz version ?
I can't find any link for it.
Gedore only sell regular production tools, some of the knive outlet stores sell factory seconds for up to 60 percent cheaper !
so next time i see a unknown tool i will think of you and your babies
if you own a "Master Card Black" that should be funI could totally see me doing what my buddy's dad did at a nudie bar in Alaska... running in there with a credit card between my teeth...
yeah
Thanks for your offer ! Only Gedore and several knive/scissor manufacturers have outlet stores. Here is a booklet where you can see who and the adresses:
http://www.solingen-like.de/wirtschaft/werksverkauf.html
Garant is good stuff... can buy through your employer ?
Dear Monte,
... my sincere
Even though, you gave the game away about your true identity (you took a pic of yourself in the WERA entrance and now, we have proof that you are the greatwst tool-nutter here on GJ (for those who were not sure yet only).
Keep going on
yours
oeyniman
i will go on stay tuned ooops forgot my ladder thereIs that Monte's signature graffiti on the Gedore building?
Zwilling/Henckels is (afaik) the largest manufacturer of knives (etc.) in Germany and very well known. Their products are sold through many department stores and kitchen/knive stores. I passed their building when i drove through Solingen: Found these pics:
https://www.google.de/maps/place/Zw...en!3m1!1s0x0:0x91c28e16718e76a9!6m1!1e1?hl=deI will take some pics on my own if i (hopefully) spend some of my holidays there possibly in the summer.
They do have a factory outlet store where they sell factory seconds and older products for up to 40% cheaper.
its alway in march every 2 years. It´s basically trade only but i was there too....if you register through internet it should be no problem....maybe you are self employed or work for a import company...who knows....
maybe an older version ?? Or special version for certain dealers/stores ? I think the handle design is still sold ,but rebadged as "Lux" tools at the OBI stores.
Got this for free at the fair from Peddinghaus:
Bought this pair of scissors at the Kretzer factory store:
(btw. they have a US adress too: www.kretzerusa.com)
Got me this pick-up tool from Bauer & Boecker. They don´t have a factory store so i just knocked on their door
The haul from the Gedore factory store:
Gedore "Blitz" pipe wrench (€5.-)
Gedore electronic pliers (€5.-)
Gedore 1 meter folding rule:
Carolus long T50 bits with 5/16"(8mm) drive:
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Miskin
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That's a bargain! 5 €!The haul from the Gedore factory store:
Gedore electronic pliers (€5.-)
I paid 16 € + 4 € shipping on ebay for these pliers and i concider my self lucky... 
BigRussian_from_NYC
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Anyone able to explain more about these Felo screwdrivers shown in another thread ?
Is this a special Hi-viz version ?
I can't find any link for it.
They look similar to Felo's Ergonic series, but not quite the same...
Made by Schmitz.Gedore electronic pliers (€5.-)
They didn't even bother to change the color of the grips. Heck of a price, as they go for ~16+EUR directly from Schmitz.
Nocturnal-G
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Wow... so many pages filled with goodies! I haven't been in here in awhile! I decided to snap some photos with the shipment that just came in from Germany... except for the AST funnel. And I haven't even got around to photographing the rest of the stuff that's been coming these past few months.
some pics of the "LUX" screwdrivers available at www.obi.de:
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How many km from Greece to Remscheid ??That's a bargain! 5 €!
Made by Schmitz.
Heck of a price, as they go for ~16+EUR directly from Schmitz.
nice pics + tools !
flea market find:
Skil cordless drill
Nocturnal-G
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Thank you Monte!
The pictures wouldn't have been possible without this beautiful piece of glass... A tool if you may call it.
The pictures wouldn't have been possible without this beautiful piece of glass... A tool if you may call it.
Miskin
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I checked again the KNIPEX pliers near the cutter and the result finally makes sense. 45 HRC! If you look the pic closer you will notice that the spot near the cutter is a little bit smaller than others near the teeth. That means the metal in this area is harder (of course time is another variation, but we consider it is standard for all measurements).But the hardness of the teeth has got to count for something as well. I'm far too lazy, but a email to Knipex (or one of the other brands) with the details of your findings and asking for an explanation of hardness of the teeth, vs cutting edge, vs "body" might provide some insight (and probably some marketing BS, but you never know).
I'm finding this interesting though and I appreciate your efforts. I'm looking forward to see if, or by how much the figures change the closer you get to the cutting edge.
Also - any chance of getting some pics of the test in progress? A "tools in action" shot for the testing equipment
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How many km from Greece to Remscheid ??
2654 Km, 25 hours driving
mr_jack
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flea market find:
Skil cordless drill
Cordless - is it battery powered or you bought it without the powercord?
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nice !! Only a Leica lens or Leica camera too ?Thank you Monte!
The pictures wouldn't have been possible without this beautiful piece of glass... A tool if you may call it.
if you start on friday after work.....2654 Km, 25 hours driving
Cordless - is it battery powered or you bought it without the powercord?
...there are 3 battery cells inside the handle tools in action:
Nocturnal-G
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Just the lens... It's the Panasonic Lumix LX7. The Leica D-Lux 6 and the LX7 are the same camera with different cosmetic looks, the Leica version comes with 3 year warranty vs Panasonics one year and the Leica version comes with Adobe Lightroom. The camera is made in Japan too.
http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B008MWQ8R2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1395269543&sr=8-1
Picked up two Fein items bought in Weisbaden a few weeks ago, and posted home to Oz.
Nice Multimaster - Made in Germany
Very (*$&^%* off with the drill - NOT made in Germany.
My fault I know, buyer beware. I had started off looking at the new 18V 4 speed, but quite heavy, ended up with the 14.4v.
Nice Multimaster - Made in Germany
Very (*$&^%* off with the drill - NOT made in Germany.
My fault I know, buyer beware. I had started off looking at the new 18V 4 speed, but quite heavy, ended up with the 14.4v.
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superautobacs
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Monte, major props to you for taking us through a virtual tour of all the "hot spots" at the fair, and letting us hop on your ride to take us through the various places. It's like I just went on a tool pilmigrage. You just filled my soul with tool nirvana. 
Oh...we haven't seen any pictures of all the leaflets, pamphlets, and catalogues you surely must've gotten.
Oh...we haven't seen any pictures of all the leaflets, pamphlets, and catalogues you surely must've gotten.
i want a german LeicaJust the lens... It's the Panasonic Lumix LX7. The Leica D-Lux 6 and the LX7 are the same camera with different cosmetic looks, the Leica version comes with 3 year warranty vs Panasonics one year and the Leica version comes with Adobe Lightroom. The camera is made in Japan too.
http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B008MWQ8R2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1395269543&sr=8-1
.....but 1500.-€ for a Leica X2 
hmmm maybe a japanese Leica get the job done too
still nice tool
The brushless 4 speed model is made in Germany
Thanks ! More pics will follow since i plan to spend a part of my holidays there maybe around augustMonte, major props to you for taking us through a virtual tour of all the "hot spots" at the fair, and letting us hop on your ride to take us through the various places. It's like I just went on a tool pilmigrage. You just filled my soul with tool nirvana.
Oh...we haven't seen any pictures of all the leaflets, pamphlets, and catalogues you surely must've gotten.
i will post some pics of the leaflets, pamphlets, and catalogues soon
more from Monte´s treasure chest:
Scintilla/Lesto drill www.scintilla.ch
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Knipex messaged me back, they are saying May-June for Pliers Wrench XL and Hose clamp pliers.... Worse than a 10yr old waiting for santa.
upgrading
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That's quite the delay from the Euro release date.
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no kidding I tried finding one on amazon.de but came up empty. Didn't try very hard though.
superautobacs
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I find it odd that the North American market has yet to get these latest plumbing related pliers. I think the Japanese market has already been selling them for a couple months now. 
Maybe squeeze in a few factory tours?
A holiday is just not a holiday if you don't spend some quality, tool related time.
Thanks ! More pics will follow since i plan to spend a part of my holidays there maybe around august
i will post some pics of the leaflets, pamphlets, and catalogues soon
more from Monte´s treasure chest:
Scintilla/Lesto drill
Maybe squeeze in a few factory tours?
A holiday is just not a holiday if you don't spend some quality, tool related time.
Luis Arturo
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Hi, I finally complete my set screwdrivers isolated HKR , here in Peru are sold in single units and had to buy up to three different hardware stores to complete measures ..
sorry the photos are not of good quality
, here in Peru are sold in single units and had to buy up to three different hardware stores to complete measures ..
sorry the photos are not of good quality
yeah that would be niceMaybe squeeze in a few factory tours?
A holiday is just not a holiday if you don't spend some quality, tool related time.
but probably not possible why else make holidays if not looking for tools
nice ! not a very common brand over hereHi, I finally complete my set screwdrivers isolated HKR
some new tools for 2014:
New Fein Multimaster
https://scontent-a-fra.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1962721_512660748843601_1683402126_n.jpg
New Fein Dustex 25 L and 35 L vacuums
new Bosch brushless impact and drivers
new routers with digital display
Festool cordless track saw
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Hazet exhibition video
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Luis Arturo
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nice ! not a very common brand over here
When I decided to buy insulated screwdrivers initially found in the market these options: HKR, Stanley, EGA and Toptul.
Stanley and Toptul dismissed by Taiwanese origin (not because they are bad, in fact they have other very good Taiwanese Stanley screwdrivers) and between Ega and HKR chose the latter.
Then in my quest to complete my set, I came across other brands Tulmex, Irazola and another I can not remember now, and even an old Stanley sotck model (older models are my weakness, I maybe buy a pair for my small collection
) . The Wiha, Elora, Wera, etc.. Brands regularly mentioned in the forum are not around here, at least not in the common market.
regards,
nowlan
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What is new about the 2014 multimaster?
I am waiting for bosch 10.8v ec drill and dremel. Anyone know release date?
I am waiting for bosch 10.8v ec drill and dremel. Anyone know release date?
Luis Arturo
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Vise grips Acesa
When I decided to buy insulated screwdrivers initially found in the market these options: HKR, Stanley, EGA and Toptul.
Stanley and Toptul dismissed by Taiwanese origin (not because they are bad, in fact they have other very good Taiwanese Stanley screwdrivers) and between Ega and HKR chose the latter.
Then in my quest to complete my set, I came across other brands Tulmex, Irazola and another I can not remember now, and even an old Stanley sotck model (older models are my weakness, I maybe buy a pair for my small collection
The Wiha, Elora, Wera, etc.. Brands regularly mentioned in the forum are not around here, at least not in the common market.
regards,
Irazola is spain company, Swedish Bacho owned them.