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lok

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....dude said they got it for around 20 yrs but i think he is joking lol

Probably it's true.


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Niiiiice!!! :)

.... you can find Walter wrenches here. :thumbup:

Thanks, I hate you! :lol:






I was trying to find some info for the stahlwille chrome plating because it's the only socket that I have never seen it flaking, when i found this datasheet.

I didn't new that stahlwille applies cold forging in sockets.

Stahl about cold forging
http://stahlwilleu.com/page26/page32/page5/files/Datasheet_Sockets.pdf

Then I remember the link of monte about cold forging of hex 1/4 dr gedore sockets.
(You can also find these two pic's in general catalog. )

Gedore about hot forging
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Gedore about cold forging
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:headscrat :lol:
 
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chrissalas1

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Welcome chrissalas1!! Nice wrench set! If you are from Athens you can find Walter wrenches here. :thumbup:
No i am from the mpougatsa city:D.I bought them from this shop.Are they good quality?I was between the toptul, the unior and the beta set but i found this shop,i called him and he made me a good price so i bought them.
 

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Thanks to a tip from CanUK in the UK Hot Deals thread I'm now the proud owner of this used Koken 3/8" e-torx set. 4-8,10,12,14,16. The E10 has some minor impact marks and some chrome flaking on the top and the E8 also has some chrome flaking on top, to a lesser extent.
But still, all are in very good condition.


Very cool. They look much better than the blurry ebay pic suggested. :thumbup:
 
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Tools I use daily @ work.
nice Duss breaker ! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
just bought it NOS for 25 Euro :D
sweet deal !! :shocking::thumbup:
Hi,new member to the forum,very glad to meet you
welcome to the forum !
I was trying to find some info for the stahlwille chrome plating because it's the only socket that I have never seen it flaking, when i found this datasheet.

I didn't new that stahlwille applies cold forging in sockets.

Stahl about cold forging
http://stahlwilleu.com/page26/page32/page5/files/Datasheet_Sockets.pdf

Then I remember the link of monte about cold forging of hex 1/4 dr gedore sockets.
(You can also find these two pic's in general catalog. )

Gedore about hot forging

Gedore about cold forging

:headscrat :lol:
who is right ?!?!? hmm :headscrat:headscrat:headscrat:D

Are they good quality?
yes :)











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More info of the new Multimaster:
will be available in may in Germany, the work progress is 35% higher than the predecessor because of the new 350 watt high performance motor with constant maintaining speed electronics and 1.7 degree amplitude (competitors 1.4 to 1.6 degree). The vibration is reduced up to 70% because the motor housing is decoupled from the motor itself with damping elements and the noise level is reduced by 50%. Prices will start at 210.-€ + tax for the QuickStart set. The old Multimaster will be offered as entry level model FEIN "MultiTalent" and will start at 128.-€ + tax



Damping elements (yellow) which decouple the motor housing from the rest of the tool:


The Fein "MultiTalent"
 

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Vidar Wulff

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Hi.Had to go to the post office today.Bought a Heyco expert boy case with tools,some marked w germany and some just germany.Case stamped november 1991.And some Saltus wrenches,17 is missing but one will soon be here.Hmm i think i have generated a soft spot for Saltus
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Hi.Had to go to the post office today.Bought a Heyco expert boy case with tools,some marked w germany and some just germany.Case stamped november 1991.And some Saltus wrenches,17 is missing but one will soon be here.Hmm i think i have generated a soft spot for Saltus
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Cooool tools!!!
Did you get the tommy bar for the Saltus wrenches? That's what the hole is for, by the way. I need to get some of those too.

Those Heyco sets look perfect for carrying in the car.:thumbup:
 

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I picked this pipe wrench up at a local yard sale last fall for $5 or $10. Its a Kongsberg No 93, made in Norway. I like it a lot - it is solidly made and very long, to allow better leverage on sticky bolts.



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Hard to tell how old it is, but it is probably older than me (42).


Cool,i wonder how that ended up in the us.It seems to be in good condition.I got the same myself,i think Kongsberg stopped tool production in 1990,so i have no idea how old it is.
 
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Cooool tools!!!
Did you get the tommy bar for the Saltus wrenches? That's what the hole is for, by the way. I need to get some of those too.

Those Heyco sets look perfect for carrying in the car.:thumbup:


No the t-bar i dint get,to complete this set i had to buy from 3 dealers on ebay.de.I guess the t-bar easily gets lost.The Heyco set i stumbled upon on ebay too,and since i didnt have much Heyco tools i just had to have it,90 euros included shipping to norway.
 
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Not too much to choose from this weekend then? :D

I went today as well and there was not a single thing worth even picking up to look at.
:lol:
...a Stanley nail puller with the same handle but "Made in USA", a "Dotco" air die grinder which i picked up for €10.- (pics will follow), a Peugeot wood chisel (pics will follow), plenty of cool old power tools (no pics :)) and other stuff. If you want you can always find something here, at least if you collect old power tools or hand tools or ...or...or.... :D












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have some work to do at my house in Marseille, that is now my mother's home and took a few hours off to go poach a bunch of fleas... :)

small haul: a small Trumpf nibbler(N160E) for like twenty euros, an old crusty Fein 230mm angle grinder with a Kwik-Lock for 40€ that runs like an olympian marathonian once turned on and is almost exempt of vibrations, unlike the green Bosch we used to cut the concrete of the alley... :D
a couple 180mm Knipex pliers(87 01 180 & 86 03 180) for like 35 euros, new, of course, some NOS and some ROS(rusted old stock :lol:), some pliers, screwdrivers, sockets, 125 and 230mm cutting discs, various SDS-Plus accessories and drill bits, another Vulkan Lokring installation tool, some step drill bits, piloted hole cutters, couple used Zobo cutters(can be resharpened, eh!), old talabot "Geneva fileset", misc. small wrenches(including soem 13mm combo ones :p), a small, unbranded nice, old bronze hammer, a four pieces plasticky Bojo kit(ok, it's a bit expensive at 10€ but made in USA and of good quality... ;) ), couple of rusty NOS Bahco 424P 25 and 30mm chisels and, lastly, a made in Germany, NOS, Wiha Inomic VDE cutting plier, works and looks good with the VDE bit holder from the same maker... :)

CoOs are Germany, USA, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Austria, Japan, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, France, Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Denmark, Canada, Taiwan and probably others too... :thumbup:

no Ko-ken stuff though... :(

i was kind of on autopilot there, working my way in the alleys and on the curbs, only looking at what was for sale and what would be useful for what i'll plan to do, or, more exactly, try to do, to our house... thinking of that is still awfully painful since there's no more "our" or "us" now... :sad:




no good pixes to follow early in the week, tomorrow is earth shovelin' time! :spit:

got back my Facom CDX ratchet from a long term loan: broken ejection mechanism and only one 10mm socket left out of 8. i'm torn between :mad: and :D for this one since the guy is a good friend and will do some free work for my mom later on... so i'll just get a kit and an extension and use it for some stubborn 10mm bolts. ;)

one more thing, can't find anymore who posted some infos a few years back on a Knipex pliers wrench specially made for Air France or maybe Airbus maintenance crews... halp! :confused:
 
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who is right ?!?!? hmm :headscrat:headscrat:headscrat:D


Who cares? :D



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Thanks :)

Found some more...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Nusskasten-DDR-Sondergren-/121302605368

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Poland-Knarr...n-8-32-mm-Rechnung-inkl-19-MwSt-/231120420015 (incomplete set)

If none of these sellers should send to Greece, send me a PM and maybe I can help you. :)


It seems these Polish sockets were quite common in the former GDR. Maybe that's the cause why these sets are sold mainly on ebay.de :headscrat

Thanks again buddy.


They look somewhat small.
Are they 125mm ?

150 mm. I don't know if there are biger though.

http://www.amazon.com/86-05-150-S02-Special/dp/B006STNXWO
 

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Always wanted a CDX set, just for the novelty of it. Maybe some day.

it's a good ratchet/system if you have the need for it but alas i never found a long CDX ratchet which would have been useful for applying more torque. i'll post pixes of it after a little cleaning just to show how sturdy it is. ;)
 

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I have a request:

I'm looking for a pike pole (also know as pick pole or spike pole) that's made in Europe, for some forestry work I am doing. I can only find manufacturers in the USA, with no one stocking them in Europe. Surely there is a forestry manufacturer in Europe who makes one? Even if I can just get the head, I can make the handle easily...

For reference, this is a pike pole. Designed for pushing logs around, particularly if they get lodged in the air against another tree.
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I have a request:

I'm looking for a pike pole (also know as pick pole or spike pole) that's made in Europe, for some forestry work I am doing. I can only find manufacturers in the USA, with no one stocking them in Europe. Surely there is a forestry manufacturer in Europe who makes one? Even if I can just get the head, I can make the handle easily...

For reference, this is a pike pole. Designed for pushing logs around, particularly if they get lodged in the air against another tree.
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it seems in germany these tools look like this and are called "Sappie".....?
i don´t know if this would work too ...?
Available from Ochsenkopf, Stihl and Helko for example www.ochsenkopf.com www.world-of-axes.com www.stihl.com
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Gedore work gloves... www.Gedore.com




....made by Mechanix... www.Mechanix.com



...in:
 

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indeed, here, in France, i only have seen those two: the sapies(called hookaroons on the other side of the Atlantic) mentioned by Monte and the tournebilles("peaveys" if my memory does not fail me): *clicky!*

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there are lots of tools that are US/Canada specific, especially forestry/fire tools like the one you're looking for or like the Pulaski axe and the McLeods hoe/rake... :(
 
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Hello to everybody :) I am a DIY tool fan from Bosnia and Herzegowina (Europe), just for hobby :) I have read all "Tools from the old world" and now I want to show you some of my tools. Most of them I picked up on flea market in Bosnia :) I hope you will enjoy reading this post :)

UNIOR: http://www.unior.si

This is most frequent brand in my country and in former Yugoslavia. It is a Slovenian manufacturer of hand tools. Before, they had all great quality tools but today they produce everything: from top-notch stuff to rubbish. It is easy to find them here, so many people buy them in tools shops or on flea markets.




Unior LSI No. 110 32 - 30 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 2,5 E:
material: chrome vanadium
drop forged, entirely hardened and tempered
surface finish: chrome plated according to EN12540
polished head
made according to standard ISO 10102 (only metric dimension))




Unior LSI No. 110 28 - 26 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 2 E)




Unior LSI No. 110 11 - 10 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 0,5 E)




Unior Extra (this was pre-1990's style, they were very strong and durable) 9 - 8 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 0,5 E)




Unior LSI No. 180 32 - 27 double ring wrench (bought on flea market for 3,5 E:
material: chrome vanadium
drop forged, entirely hardened and tempered
surface finish: chrome plated according to EN12540
polished head
ring part with LIFE profile
made according to standard ISO 10104 (only metric dimension))




Unior Extra 11 - 10 double ring wrench (bought on flea market for 0,5 E)




Unior No. 531 tower pincer (bought new for 10 Euros:
material: special tool steel
drop forged, entirely hardened and tempered
cutting edges induction hardened
head surface finish: finely ground
surface finish: phosphated to standard DIN 12476
handles plastic dipped
made according to standard ISO 92)


Unior No. 642 center punch, size 5 (bought new for 2 E:
material: chrome vanadium
entirely hardened and tempered
tip induction hardened
surface finish: lacquered
made according to standard DIN 7250)

TANG (Tvornica Alata Nova Gradiška / Tool factory Nova Gradiška - town in Croatia) http://www.tang.hr/home_eng.html

This was a second producer of hand tools in former Yugoslavia. They produced high quality wrenches, excellent sockets, pliers, chisels and punches. Tools were like "eastern made" with awful finishing. Today, factory doesn't produce hand tools, since they where bought from italian company Eurozappa, so now they produce pressing parts for automotive industry.




Tang 17 - 16 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 0,50 E)

IUS: http://www.mob-ius.ro




IUS 19 - 17 open end wrench (chrome alloy; bought on flea market for 0,5 E)




IUS 17 - 16 double ring wrench (bought on flea market for 1 E)

GEDORE:

This famous german tool brand is hard to find in Bosnian's tool shop, but it is not rare, beacause a lot of people from Bosnia worked in Germany, so they bring Gedore tools here. That is a reason why in my country word "gedore" means socket set and socket itself.




Gedore No. 6 16 - 15 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 0.50 E)




Gedore 13 – 12 open end wrench (bought new for 0,50 E; Made in India)




Gedore No. 6. 6 - 7 open end wrenches (bought on flea market; two for 1 E )




Gedore No. 7 "9" combination wrench (bought on flea market for 0,50 E)




Gedore Habero 1000 g hammer (bought new on flea market for 5 E)
 
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HEYCO:

This is frequent brand on Bosnian's flea markets. Here you can find sockets and wrenches from Heyco, but no pliers, screwdrivers etc.




Heyco 17 - 14 open end wrench (for Mercedes - Benz tool kit; bought on flea market for 0,50 E)




Heyco 17 - 13 open end wrench (for Mercedes - Benz tool kit; bought on flea market for 0.50 E)




Heyco 13 - 10 open end wrench (usually in VW; bought on flea market for 0,50 E)

Heyco No. 475 13 - 12 double ring wrench (bought new on flea market for 1 E)







Heyco wheel nut wrench 17 (for Mercedes - Benz tool kit; bought on flea market for 1 E):





HAZET:




Hazet 450 17 – 16 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 1 E)



Hazet 450 11 – 10 open end wrench (bought new on flea market for 0,50 E; it is my favourite)

STAHLWILLE:





Stahlwille Stabil 19 – 17 open end wrench (bought new on flea market; two for 1,50 E )




Stahlwille 8'' ribbed cold chisel (bought new on flea market for 2,5 E)

KNIPEX:




Knipex Aligator 250 mm self-locking plier (bought new on flea market for 9 E)






Knipex 160 mm combination plier (bought new on flea market for 5 E; this is my first tool ever, I bought it when I was child, age of ten, so it means something special to me)






Knipex No. 60 160 mm combination plier (bought on flea market for 2,50 E)




Knipex tower pincer (bought on flea market for 1 E; marked Made in West Germany)
 

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STUBAI:




Stubai 15 – 13 open end wrench (bought new on flea market for 1 E)




Stubai chisels (bought new on flea market; two for 2,5 E)

WITTE:










Witte screwdriver set (bought new for 9 E, one is missing on photo)

SORA:


Sora slotted screwdriver (bought on flea market for 0,50 E)

BELZER:




Belzer 20 mm combination wrench (bought new on flea market for 1 E)




Belzer 17 – 16 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 1 E)

DOWIDAT:




Dowidat side cutting plier (bought new on flea market for 2,50 E)




Dowidat No. 111 11 mm combination wrench (bought on flea market for 0,50 E)

WGB:




WGB 17 – 16 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 1 E)

VBW:




VBW No. 39 27 – 24 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 2,50 E)

DIN Wrench:




DIN 22 – 17 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 0,50 E; maybe Monte knows who produce it?)
 

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WURTH:




Picard 2000 g hammer rebranded for Wurth (bought new on flea market for 5 E)

SCHNEIDER + KLEIN:






Osca 300 g hammer rebranded for Schneider + Klein (bought new on flea market for 2 E)

EASTMAN: http://www.eastmanhandtools.com/index.php




Eastman 13 – 10 open end wrench (Made in India; in my opinion it is good quality)




Eastman 19 – 17 open end wrench (Made in India)

WISENT




Wisent 19 – 17 open end wrench (bought on flea market for 1 E; maybe Monte knows who produced it?)

WFR:




WFR 22 – 19 open end wrench (accord to TGL (DDR standard), some „super steel“ legure?, maybe Monte knows what it is?; bought on flea market for 1 E)

MEISTER:




Meister 7 mm combination wrench (@Monte, is this just a brand or it was / is a tool maker?; bought on flea market for 0,50 E)
 

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FAUST:




Faust 12 mm combination wrench (@Monte, what about this brand?; bought on flea market for 0,50 E)

HM MULLNER: (It is the most frequent tool in tool shops here; resonable price and good quality)




HMMullner 60 cm level (bought new for 9 E; Made in EU, I think in Slovenia)


HMMullner 5 m metric tape meausure (bought new for 1 E)










HM Mullner (500 ml / 400 g, M 10 x 1 connection) grease gun (bought new for 15 E; I think it is made by MATO – Germany; excellent quality)






Gedore 180 mm combination plier rebranded for HMMullner - Austria (bought new for 10E)








Gedore external snap ring plier rebrander for HMMullner - Austria (bought new for 8 E)

WALTER:




Walter 18 – 16 double ring wrench (produced for Mercedes – Benz tool kit; bought on flea market for 2 E)

OLMA:
http://www.olma.si


Olma 800 g multipurpose lithium grease (high quality, Made in Slovenia, bought for 4,5 E)


RIMAZ: www.rimaz.si


Rimaz 800 g multipurpose grease (Made in Germany for Slovenian company Rimaz)

INA: http://www.ina.hr


Ina 800 g multipurpose lithium grease (Made in Croatia; Ina is a subsidary of MOL Group from Hungary and it is well known manufacture o grease and oil in former Yugoslavia; bought for 4 E)

WD-40:


WD-40 450 ml with smart straw (bought new on flea market for 2,50 E; Made in UK)

RAPID:




Rapid PRO R28E Staple Gun Cable (Made in Sweden)

FISH:




Fish Forstner Bohrer Set – 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 mm (bought on flea market for 5 E; Made in Austria)

DEWALT:


DeWalt wood and masonry drill bits – 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 mm (bought new for 15 E; Made in Germany)

BOSCH:


Bosch HSS – R metal drill bit set from 1 mm to 10 mm (bought new for 13 E in Slovenia; Made in China)

PRESSOL:


Pressol 400 g multipurpose grease for grease gun (bought for 4 E; Made in Germany)

ELEKTRODA: www.elektroda-zagreb.hr




Elektroda Zagreb electrodes for welding of unalloyed steels (Made in Croatia; very good quality)

RECA:


Reca 230 x 3 mm steel / inox cutting wheel (bought new on flea market for 1,5 E; Made in Germany)

SWATYCOMET: www.swatycomet.si


SwatyComet 115 x 6 mm steel grinding wheel (bought new for 1 E; Made in Slovenia)


SwatyComet 180 x 6 mm steel grinding wheel (bought new for 2 E; Made in Slovenia)

MEDOP:


Medop safety glasses (Made in Spain)
 
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