Tools from the old world

[mr_jack]

interesting new Stanley pliers:
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I was going to say that a lawsuit's on the way, but i dont think NWS patented the "Fantastico "design ... if they actually invented it in the first place ...

 

[garthg]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

PB Swiss Tools short factory tour video:
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If you look closely at the video (time stamp 1:09) in the historical display (year 1961) you can see one of these:

My dad got it in Switzerland. Must have been late '60's or early '70's. They stopped making them in 1975. It's interesting that they used the same orange pellets to make screwdriver handles.

 

[Monte]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

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nice ! still don´t know who make them but at least they say "Germany"

I was going to say that a lawsuit's on the way, but i dont think NWS patented the "Fantastico "design ... if they actually invented it in the first place ...

i first thought: "hmm NWS makes pliers for Stanley"
....maybe the patent from whoever owned it ran out ?

If you look closely at the video (time stamp 1:09) in the historical display (year 1961) you can see one of these:

That´s a cool tool !
some more info:
http://www.bullworks.net/daily/20091213.htm

Gedore work jacket + pants



Details jacket:
front pocket


mobile phone pocket on the sleeve


Details pants:
rear pocket on the pants


side pocket + hammer strap


front view


rear view


action

 

[MARCIOCRM]

My name is Marcio, I'm a brazilian tool addict.
This is my first post.

Gedore make good pliers here in Brazil, but a few years ago it started sell some models from Austria.

These are my Austrian Gedore Pliers:





I have some Knipex and I'm waiting arrive more Knipex and some NWS (most of them from Ash).
When they arrive I'll come back with more pictures.

 

[Luis Arturo]

Rubicon screwdrivers made ​​in Japan; Model 107 refers to the measure of the width of the tip of 6mm. equivalent philips is the PH2

regards,

 

[CanUK]

Today's Car Boot Loot

Elora 110 set in A/F sizes 3/8" - 1"

Bought for £6 for the lot. Marked Made in W. Germany and all look to be very lightly used. Interestingly (nor not) they've used "Chrome" rather than "Chrom".

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Misc long hex keys. Bought for £1 for the lot. Top to bottom are Bondhus 10mm, Beta 96L Italy 10mm, Beta 96L Italy 7mm, "EIGHT" Japan 5/16" (SNCM+V), "EIGHT" Japan 1/4" (SNCM+V).

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[superautobacs]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

i first thought: "hmm NWS makes pliers for Stanley"
....maybe the patent from whoever owned it ran out ?

Stanley surely has the capital to pay royalties to NWS, if they indeed had it patented.



Does Gedore make underwear, and socks, too? Then you'll be fully outfitted in Gedore powah.

My name is Marcio, I'm a brazilian tool addict.
This is my first post.

There were a few Brazilian tool enthusiasts who participated in this thread, in the past.

You're another welcomed addition to this board/thread.

Today's Car Boot Loot

Elora 110 set in A/F sizes 3/8" - 1"

Bought for £6 for the lot. Marked Made in W. Germany and all look to be very lightly used. Interestingly (nor not) they've used "Chrome" rather than "Chrom".

Misc long hex keys. Bought for £1 for the lot. Top to bottom are Bondhus 10mm, Beta 96L Italy 10mm, Beta 96L Italy 7mm, "EIGHT" Japan 5/16" (SNCM+V), "EIGHT" Japan 1/4" (SNCM+V).

Maybe they had two dies: one for export with the "correct" spelling and one for the domestic European market?

EIGHT is a small manufacturer that specilizes in hex keys and some hex bit sockets.




PB Swiss' older display:

Interestingly they source the raw CAB material from an american company called Eastman.

The story goes....
Shortly after WWll, Mr. Bauman (the founder of PB Swiss, fromerly known as PB Bauman) came across tools that were left behind by the US military and within the collection was a translucent, colored screwdriver. That's when Mr. Bauman decided they were going to produce the first screwdrivers in Switzerland. Not only that, influenced by that beautiful US made translucent grip, in 1953, they became the first company to produce the translucent-gripped screwdriver in Europe. To this day, PB Swiss produces the Classic grip, which actually mimics the shape of the traditional US screwdriver.

 

[Roverbo]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

Yeah it does, but it just moves one of the two marker needles (the knob in the middle moving the other). The large needle of the gauge itself though tends to return to a slightly different position each time the plunger is released though. And then the small inset dial needle isn't anywhere near 0.

No problem, the end stop is not to be used as a reference "zero"point. I mostly uses my dial watch for measuring "out of roundness", end float in bearings, axles etc. I use it with a magnetic stand. Load the feeler on the outer bearing in the "middle of the range (small gauge on, say, 1,5 mm)", then set the outer ring to 0. Then turn the axle, bearing or whatever, watching the movement on the long gauge. Its not to be used as a vernier, but more for variations, uneveness in depth etc...

Update !

never too many...

Rubicon screwdrivers made ​​in Japan; Model 107 refers to the measure of the width of the tip of 6mm. equivalent philips is the PH2


regards,

I have a 1/4" driver with exact same handle, labelled "Kamasa Tools". Rubicon must be OEM for Kamasa. Like these old school handles!

(...)
Does Gedore make underwear, and socks, too? Then you'll be fully outfitted in Gedore powah.

And if they do, we dont want to see them at work....

 

[Beenman]

cool ! Do you have pics ??

Will have to scratch through old photos and see. Those were the days long before digital cameras and photos weren't often taken.

 

[lok]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

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Gedore work jacket + pants

Were is the hat? Come on!

 

[RX-KING]

Hi everyone..i'm form indonesia and i'm new in this forum.

 

[RX-KING]

This is some my tool maybe from old world. And sorry for my bad english

 

[RX-KING]

This is some my tool maybe from old world. And sorry for my bad english

 

[north]

Welcome to the forum RX-KING. Nice Elora's. Keep posting pics of your tools and don't worry about your english. We all understand each other just fine here.

Can you post a pic of the whole Elora ratchet?

 

[CanUK]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

No problem, the end stop is not to be used as a reference "zero"point. I mostly uses my dial watch for measuring "out of roundness", end float in bearings, axles etc. I use it with a magnetic stand. Load the feeler on the outer bearing in the "middle of the range (small gauge on, say, 1,5 mm)", then set the outer ring to 0. Then turn the axle, bearing or whatever, watching the movement on the long gauge. Its not to be used as a vernier, but more for variations, uneveness in depth etc...

Cheers I was concerned that it might indicate that the gauge was broken or of doubtful accuracy.

 

[RX-KING]

I don't have elora complete ratchet set, only sliding tee bar, and some socket made w-germany era and germany

 

[RX-KING]

Please, someone give your opinion about elora hand tool?is elora good quality or just average

 

[RX-KING]

I found "OHMNI" or "OHMI" i forget about the branddeep socket at flea market.is good quality soceket??thanks guy.

 

[Monte]

My name is Marcio, I'm a brazilian tool addict.
This is my first post.

Hi Marcio ! Welcome to the forum !
Please show us some more of your tools especially if you own tools "Made in Brazil"

Stanley surely has the capital to pay royalties to NWS, if they indeed had it patented.

it seems they didn´t ...couldn´t find one... They also didn´t patent the "curve" of their water pump pliers (for the extended jaw capacity) and shortly after NWS came out with theirs Knipex introduced their new Cobras and Alligators with the extended jaw capacity....

Does Gedore make underwear, and socks, too? Then you'll be fully outfitted in Gedore powah.

unfortunately not (yet ) so i get me the Snap-On socks ! Lifetime warranty !!!

PB Swiss' older display:

cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interestingly they source the raw CAB material from an american company called Eastman.

more info: http://www.eastman.com/Literature_Center/P/PPC100.pdf

And if they do, we dont want to see them at work....

Will have to scratch through old photos and see. Those were the days long before digital cameras and photos weren't often taken.

new photos would work too

Were is the hat? Come on!

i get me a hat next time i visit their store

Please, someone give your opinion about elora hand tool?is elora good quality or just average

i think most tools are ok or good (very good ?)

I found "OHMNI" or "OHMI" i forget about the branddeep socket at flea market.is good quality soceket??thanks guy.

seems to be a japanese company:
http://www.techno-triireka.co.id/driver-a-bits/ohmi
http://www.ohmiseiki.co.jp/














more Gedore: Gedore tool trays



a few things are missing

 

[upgrading]

a few things are missing

Today.

 

[RX-KING]

Here is my old files: Any info about the company?? I buy 1$ at flea market

 

[Beenman]

new photos would work too

Ha, you are right. Although I neglected to mentioned that the Peugeot ceased operation quite long ago. It had been used day in and day out for probably 15 years in heavy construction. Last I recall seeing it, it was stripped to pieces with the intention of repairing it, but alas, it has not run since.

 

[user.nr.1]

Difference between Hazet 903 SLG-19mm (made in Germany)
and Koken 14145PM.110 19mm (made in Japan)

Size comparison

Hazet outer diameter 31.2mm

Koken outer diameter 27.2mm. 4mm less than Hazet

so if you're having a tight fit with your alloy rims go get the Koken Impact wheel sockets.

 

[candikid]

Bernstein torx driver, T6 - T30. Had to buy them separately. Love them, they are absolutely gorgeous, and the grip is perfect too. Strange thing though: half of them are polished or chromed, while the other half is matte...?

 

[Luis Arturo]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

edited by repeated

 

[Luis Arturo]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

I have a 1/4" driver with exact same handle, labelled "Kamasa Tools". Rubicon must be OEM for Kamasa.

Maybe it's as you say, although I have my doubts. Here in Peru the Kamasa tools are considered lower quality and this is reflected in their retail prices.

This is the page I found from Kamasa http://www.kamasatools.com/es/ and none of the tools show that there are in hardware stores here. The ones you find are of this type:

very similar to Model Craftsman, Stanley, Rubicon, etc ...

Like these old school handles!

I really like these bags!

regards

 

[garyi]

I don't see any old school Whitworth tools from the UK for Jaguar models www.jagbits.com

 

[Luis Arturo]

Bernstein torx driver, T6 - T30. Had to buy them separately. Love them, they are absolutely gorgeous, and the grip is perfect too. Strange thing though: half of them are polished or chromed, while the other half is matte...?

very nice your screwdrivers!

 

[Luis Arturo]

My name is Marcio, I'm a brazilian tool addict.
This is my first post.

Hi and welcome MARCIOCRM

I have a few Brazilian Stanley brand tools, but a few days ago bought a camber of 1 Kg and pruning shears Tramontina Brazilian made​​, look good and are robust... expect more pictures of you!

 

[donvito]

Here is my old files: Any info about the company?? I buy 1$ at flea market

The color of the box and label on the one on the right looks a lot like Nicholson. Very hard to make out the writing in the picture.

 

[Roverbo]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

Maybe it's as you say, although I have my doubts. Here in Peru the Kamasa tools are considered lower quality and this is reflected in their retail prices.

This is the page I found from Kamasa http://www.kamasatools.com/es/ and none of the tools show that there are in hardware stores here. The ones you find are of this type:

very similar to Model Craftsman, Stanley, Rubicon, etc ...

regards

Hi Luis,
Maybe Kamasa and Kamasa(South America) are two different companys? Maybe the name (trademark) is only registered in Europe and the US? Here Kamasa is still considered to be good tools, maybe not top-notch like Hazet, Gedore etc., but tools you could find in a workshop.

My Kamasa tools are very old...
Kamasa is, like they tell on the web, a swedish company. AFAIK they started by taking over an old, japanese toolmaker, selling them in Sweden and later in the rest of Europe. I think my tools are from that period of their "history"...

My 1/4" driver:
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16/17 mm flex wrench...
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Made in Japan:
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Sockets and screwdriver, very good quality...
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Made in Japan, too...
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The sockets reminds me of Koken, very nice finish, slim, but not the same style...
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[texchappy]

I don't see any old school Whitworth tools from the UK for Jaguar models www.jagbits.com

samstag sales has a few. IIRC there is a website called british fasteners that has quite a few.

 

[Monte]

Here is my old files: Any info about the company?? I buy 1$ at flea market

www.kaiser-feilen.de

Ha, you are right. Although I neglected to mentioned that the Peugeot ceased operation quite long ago. It had been used day in and day out for probably 15 years in heavy construction. Last I recall seeing it, it was stripped to pieces with the intention of repairing it, but alas, it has not run since.

sad to hear that it don´t work anymore. But you could buy a new one

Difference between Hazet 903 SLG-19mm (made in Germany)
and Koken 14145PM.110 19mm (made in Japan)

does Koken make them in 13/16" ?

I have a few Brazilian Stanley brand tools, but a few days ago bought a camber of 1 Kg and pruning shears Tramontina Brazilian made​​, look good and are robust... expect more pictures of you!

nice hammer !











Tools in action:

 

[Luis Arturo]

Re: Tools from the old world, didn't know I had one in my picnic kit

Hi Luis,
Maybe Kamasa and Kamasa(South America) are two different companys? Maybe the name (trademark) is only registered in Europe and the US? Here Kamasa is still considered to be good tools, maybe not top-notch like Hazet, Gedore etc., but tools you could find in a workshop.

Hi Roverbo,
I tend to think like you, must be two different companies. Although that's pretty strange.

My Kamasa tools are very old...

That means two things: they are old because they have had much your hectic and even preserved because they are good quality .... now that I see the picture, you are quite right the handle is identical!

regards

 

[node105]

Stahlwille Combination Ratcheting Spanners OPEN-RATCH 17
'available from June 2014'

No indication as to where they are made.
The Hazet equivalents ( 606 Ratcheting Combination Wrench) are not made in Germany - obvious in the catalogue by omission of the 'Made in Germany' logo/label

 

[superautobacs]

seems to be a japanese company:
http://www.techno-triireka.co.id/driver-a-bits/ohmi
http://www.ohmiseiki.co.jp/

Oh, oh, oh.....their lube must be the holy lube for all ratchets.

a few things are missing

Not bad at all, considering that's probably your triplet set that you're working on?

That better be a KTC-made Craftsman wrench or otherwise

very similar to Model Craftsman, Stanley, Rubicon, etc ...

Those handles look seem identical to a Japanese brand called WISE

But I've seen similar/identical handle styles from other Japanese companies as well.....just can't recall which brand....nor do I know the OEM.

Interestingly I've seen Kamasa screwdrivers that are identical to KTC's purple-color-handled service tools.

Stahlwille Combination Ratcheting Spanners OPEN-RATCH 17
'available from June 2014'

No indication as to where they are made.
The Hazet equivalents ( 606 Ratcheting Combination Wrench) are not made in Germany - obvious in the catalogue by omission of the 'Made in Germany' logo/label

Taiwan is the COO for both, Stahlwille and Hazet; however, they are made by two different companies.






Roverbo,

That's a very cool looking Kamasa socket bunch you have. How old do you think they are? Here I am thinking that an anti-roll feature on a socket was a modern "innovation", but it seems like it wasn't.

 

[Roverbo]

Those handles look seem identical to a Japanese brand called WISE

But I've seen similar/identical handle styles from other Japanese companies as well.....just can't recall which brand....nor do I know the OEM.

Interestingly I've seen Kamasa screwdrivers that are identical to KTC's purple-color-handled service tools.

Roverbo,

That's a very cool looking Kamasa socket bunch you have. How old do you think they are? Here I am thinking that an anti-roll feature on a socket was a modern "innovation", but it seems like it wasn't.

Hi Superautobacs,
I found these at a local car accessories store - they don´t do much in tools, but occasionally they have a "used tools bargain" box. One tool 10 DKK, 10 tools 50 DKK (10$). Most is really worn out and rusty ****, but i found my Koken ½" ratchet there (needed oil), a Bacho (Sweden) screwdriver, and these Kamasa sockets. I think they dropped a complete set in the box, unfortunately only the depicted ones were left. A friend of mine owns a complete set in same style (in a green metalbox, marked "made in Japan"), and this set is from around 1990.

 

[SpaleHR]

Sorry for spamming topic, but could someone help me find odur-fit pliers that can be purchased online and that they deliver in European Union? Thanks

 

[RX-KING]

Thanks Monte for the info
I never thoug it was german made files

 

[Luis Arturo]

French Wrench Facom 113/8

A remark: In Peru and in some countries of Latin America we call them French key to this type of adjustable wrenches and not necessarily because they have been manufactured in France