Tools from the old world

nanofrog · Mar 12, 2015

CrustyD3mon said:
do you have link?

Panavise (manufacturer's site).

Farnell seems to sell it pretty much anywhere, but their pricing is horrible outside of the US (i.e. 324 Electronic Workstation for ~213EUR on Farnell's Portugal site, yet it has an MSRP of $99.99 here in the US :wtf:

). There are other sellers in the EU that do better on pricing, but the selection tends to be limited (i.e. 324 is hard to find). Printtec for example, and I've also seen some items on Amazon UK as well.

If you can't get it for a more realistic price, go for the Bernstein.

Edited links for location.

Champo · Mar 12, 2015

[email protected] said:
My first post here. I've been passively following this thread for years.

Anybody gotten their hands on one of these yet? Or any NWS screwdrivers for that matter?
I think non-VDE screwdrivers must be relatively new to the NWS lineup? I can't recall seeing them in their catalog before. The only vendor I can find selling them is Chadstoolbox and it looks like he's only got singles. No sets, and I can't find the kit pictured above.

Welcome!

The OEM is wuro/Athlet, monte posted a link to their website above ^
You might find the same screwdrivers available in another brand (vbw, Wbg or matador). felo/wiha/wera/pb swiss make similar sets as well if your interested.

Luis Arturo · Mar 12, 2015

Bahco Blade 350

nanofrog · Mar 12, 2015

Champo said:
Welcome!

The OEM is wuro/Athlet, monte posted a link to their website above ^
You might find the same screwdrivers available in another brand (vbw, Wbg or matador). felo/wiha/wera/pb swiss make similar sets as well if your interested.

FWIW, I've a couple of Drive-Loc sets from Wiha (4mm & 6mm shaft sets). Handles are very nice, as is the ability to adjust the depth of the blades (also longer than standard, so more useful for recessed screws).

FWIW, Wiha makes blades for more screw profiles than any other brand I'm aware of (use a lot of PB Swiss for my dedicated drivers, but their electronics offerings are on the meager side IMHO).

powertool · Mar 12, 2015

powertool said:
Oh man...won witte maxxpro screwdrivers set along with couple of knipex pliers at an auction. The only thing is I have to wait till next week before I can pick them up.

This *****...it's like you know you're gonna get laid but not now...

Here we go...

and some more Knipex pliers but I don't have use for them so I'm gonna sell them. When they're sold this means those above are for free...

:bounce:

powertool · Mar 12, 2015

Monte said:
.....made in switzerland

Ah just remember something...Switzerland is good yes?

rodsnratfinks · Mar 12, 2015

This was surprising. I saw this Wiha insulated set at Sears the other day. I didn't know they carry Wiha. They also carry Knipex. I'll have to keep an eye out for sales. Anyone know if this set in particular is a good one? German made. I have some older Wiha insulated stuff that's very nice, as well as a precision set.

Peeb · Mar 12, 2015

England. , Germany.

Thanks a lot!

:bounce:

Champo · Mar 12, 2015

nanofrog said:
FWIW, I've a couple of Drive-Loc sets from Wiha (4mm & 6mm shaft sets). Handles are very nice, as is the ability to adjust the depth of the blades (also longer than standard, so more useful for recessed screws).

FWIW, Wiha makes blades for more screw profiles than any other brand I'm aware of (use a lot of PB Swiss for my dedicated drivers, but their electronics offerings are on the meager side IMHO).

I own a pb swiss precision set so I can vouch for the quality, but your definitely right about the selection from Wiha. They have everything covered!

powertool said:
Ah just remember something...Switzerland is good yes?

A Porsche and a Rolex, living the dream! I definitely chose the wrong career path, I've got a Seiko and a Ford

powertool · Mar 12, 2015

Champo said:
A Porsche and a Rolex, living the dream! I definitely chose the wrong career path, I've got a Seiko and a Ford

Nono, no Porsche :sad:

That car is from the polishing company across the street. I offered them my kids for the car as I can make some more but no go unfortunately :sad:

bad luck · Mar 12, 2015

I bought this set of Heytec wrenches a while back, but they did not include the 12 and the 15 mm sizes. So I ordered the Heyco 12 and 15. My question is are the Heyco and Heytec tools made by the same company? They both seem to be good quality tools though. But they don't match very closely. Thanks for any info you can give me. I did search and couldn't find any info on the forum.

target · Mar 12, 2015

bad luck said:
I bought this set of Heytec wrenches a while back, but they did not include the 12 and the 15 mm sizes. So I ordered the Heyco 12 and 15. My question is are the Heyco and Heytec tools made by the same company? They both seem to be good quality tools though. But they don't match very closely. Thanks for any info you can give me. I did search and couldn't find any info on the forum.

Far as i know is: Heyco>Heynen>Heytec first and second, are made in germany. Third one is made in taiwan or czech republic maybe, i'm not sure..

firecracker · Mar 12, 2015

bad luck I bought a couple of sets in the past, they didn't have 12 or 15 , I wonder why ?!!

nanofrog · Mar 12, 2015

powertool said:
Ah just remember something...Switzerland is good yes?

Actually, No.

I like trying to improve **** though, so I'll be more than happy to accept donations. :3gears:

rodsnratfinks said:
This was surprising. I saw this Wiha insulated set at Sears the other day. I didn't know they carry Wiha.

Anyone know if this set in particular is a good one? German made.

They carry a couple of scattered pieces at best.

As per that particular set, the handles are excellent, but the tips aren't what they were back in the late '80's/early '90's (in general, their tips are of softer metal; specifically for that set, the black is paint, not true black oxide).

Not saying they're garbage, but just trying to temper your expectations regarding the tips vs. what your older drivers are IME. They are definitely worth the asking price.

If you're after their previous level of tip quality, you'll need to switch over to PB Swiss. Unfortunately, your wallet may yelp as a result. :spit:

If you're after true top of the line for tip quality, you'll have to spring for PB Swiss. Won't be that cheap though ($71.20 shipped via USPS).

Champo said:
I definitely chose the wrong career path, I've got a Seiko and a Ford

Mind scooting over? ... Seems I've booked passage on the same boat. :bounce:

powertool said:
Nono, no Porsche

That car is from the polishing company across the street. I offered them my kids for the car as I can make some more but no go unfortunately

Perhaps they were "too used", and you just need to offer one, possibly two, right off the assy. line? :evil:

Monte · Mar 12, 2015

Champo said:
Thanks again monte. how do you think vbw compares to knipex and nws?

i think the quality is the same.

[email protected] said:
Anybody gotten their hands on one of these yet? Or any NWS screwdrivers for that matter?
I think non-VDE screwdrivers must be relatively new to the NWS lineup? I can't recall seeing them in their catalog before. The only vendor I can find selling them is Chadstoolbox and it looks like he's only got singles. No sets, and I can't find the kit pictured above.

Maybe you can contact Ash @ www.german-hand-tools.com he might be able to get you the desired items.

powertool said:
Ah just remember something...Switzerland is good yes?

usually yes

i have the same watch...mine is gold colored thought...it was only 30€

from Turkey

Bradleys leather knee pads
www.bradleysthetannery.co.uk

TjoFrasse · Mar 12, 2015

Luis Arturo said:
Bahco Blade 350

Hello!

Where did you get that, and are there any more?

Ratchet. · Mar 12, 2015

Couple of interesting purchases came today,

firstly a Spanish made Zubi Ondo adjustable, this is my second of this make, have a chrome plated 12" one in poor shape which is my "go to" adjustable, this one however is in great condition, and has one of the smoothest movements I've seen on a adjustable on par with Swedish made Bahco. The steel feels great too, real nice quality :pimpflash

The other is a bit of an oddity, as far as i can work out its a model T ford T-1917 wrench, which I'm sure many have seen, as they are pretty common in the USA

However this one was made by a company called Vaughan Brothers in Willenhall UK (who also made tools for Ferguson tractors), not sure how that came about, possibly the same tool was also used on a UK market vehicle?

Last a pair of Austrian made Gedore 'telephone pliers' anyone know who the manufacturer is or do/did Gedore have a factory in Austria?

ttpete · Mar 12, 2015

Ratchet. said:
Couple of interesting purchases came today,

firstly a Spanish made Zubi Ondo adjustable, this is my second of this make, have a chrome plated 12" one in poor shape which is my "go to" adjustable, this one however is in great condition, and has one of the smoothest movements I've seen on a adjustable on par with Swedish made Bahco. The steel feels great too, real nice quality

The other is a bit of an oddity, as far as i can work out its a model T ford T-1917 wrench, which I'm sure many have seen, as they are pretty common in the USA

However this one was made by a company called Vaughan Brothers in Willenhall UK (who also made tools for Ferguson tractors), not sure how that came about, possibly the same tool was also used on a UK market vehicle?

Last a pair of Austrian made Gedore 'telephone pliers' anyone know who the manufacturer is or do/did Gedore have a factory in Austria?

The T-1917 wrench was intended to be used to change bands in the planetary model T transmission. It's often used for other things and the end with the thin legs is spread open as a result. It was included in the tool kit that shipped with every car.

Ratchet. · Mar 12, 2015

ttpete said:
The T-1917 wrench was intended to be used to change bands in the planetary model T transmission. It's often used for other things and the end with the thin legs is spread open as a result. It was included in the tool kit that shipped with every car.

Thanks, yeah i forgot that the T was sold in the Uk as well, not nearly as common as in the USA, and most were commercials apparently (the engine size made them expensive to tax in the uk at that point) I guess they made many of the parts locally instead of importing them from America.

Luis Arturo · Mar 12, 2015

TjoFrasse said:
Hello!

Where did you get that, and are there any more?

Hello TjoFrasse

I think we are some way off

, I live in Lima Peru, and found this knife in one of my many travels I do for old hardware stores, the center of the city, looking for vintage tools. :eyecrazy:

I saw four exhibition, I was one of them ... :bounce:

Champo · Mar 12, 2015

I took your advice monte, vbw is too hard to find in australia, so I got these for $69 (50€) at my local hardware store:

bad luck · Mar 13, 2015

target said:
Far as i know is: Heyco>Heynen>Heytec first and second, are made in germany. Third one is made in taiwan or czech republic maybe, i'm not sure..

Okay, I thought they were made in Germany, the Heyco says germany on the wrench but the Heytec doesn't have any markings for the coo. Thanks for the info.

jetdawg · Mar 13, 2015

chrissalas1 said:
My new jack arrived last week
ac dk13hlq

I don't understand why the manual says to lubricate the axle (9106200) monthly and if i not i risk long holes in the pump.
I have to lubricate the axle external or something else?

stahlwille 2015 catalog with prices

My favorite jack of all time, need to pick one up one of these days.

Dr.JohnnyFever · Mar 13, 2015

Some 600N arrived this week. I got the Stahwilles a while back.

Feli · Mar 13, 2015

Dr.JohnnyFever said:
Some 600N arrived this week. I got the Stahwilles a while back.

wow, love them! congrats!

ALFA · Mar 13, 2015

Beta utensili

TjoFrasse · Mar 13, 2015

Luis Arturo said:
Hello TjoFrasse

I think we are some way off, I live in Lima Peru, and found this knife in one of my many travels I do for old hardware stores, the center of the city, looking for vintage tools.

I saw four exhibition, I was one of them ...

Too bad... But I'm not surprised, that must be some rare old stock. Thanks for answering though! :beer:

Monte · Mar 13, 2015

Ratchet. said:
Last a pair of Austrian made Gedore 'telephone pliers' anyone know who the manufacturer is or do/did Gedore have a factory in Austria?

Gedore manufactures their own pliers in Austria since 1972.
Please take a look at this video where you can see how they are made (starts @8:10)

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edit: found another video:
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cjZw25unRjI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Champo said:
I took your advice monte, vbw is too hard to find in australia, so I got these for $69 (50€) at my local hardware store:

Looking good ! :bowdown:

rodsnratfinks · Mar 13, 2015

nanofrog said:
As per that particular set, the handles are excellent, but the tips aren't what they were back in the late '80's/early '90's (in general, their tips are of softer metal; specifically for that set, the black is paint, not true black oxide).

Not saying they're garbage, but just trying to temper your expectations regarding the tips vs. what your older drivers are IME. They are definitely worth the asking price.

If you're after their previous level of tip quality, you'll need to switch over to PB Swiss. Unfortunately, your wallet may yelp as a result.

If you're after true top of the line for tip quality, you'll have to spring for PB Swiss. Won't be that cheap though ($71.20 shipped via USPS).

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I've been wanting to give PB Swiss drivers a try for a while. I actually have enough insulated drivers, so if I'm going to spend the bucks, it would be for new general purpose drivers. Are they good for that? How do they compare to Snap On hard handles?

nanofrog · Mar 13, 2015

rodsnratfinks said:
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I've been wanting to give PB Swiss drivers a try for a while. I actually have enough insulated drivers, so if I'm going to spend the bucks, it would be for new general purpose drivers. Are they good for that? How do they compare to Snap On hard handles?

They could be used as general purpose, but keep in mind, the plastic on the shafts *can* prevent them from fitting down recessed holes (if you encounter those a lot).

They make a Slim fit version that solves this problem, but costs a fair bit more. Haven't encountered them in-person, but I suspect the tips may be tougher due to how thin the actual shafts would have to be so there's enough plastic insulation to meet VDE specs.

Compared to Snap-On, it's something of a toss-up depending on what you value more. I'd give Snap-On the edge on tip hardness, while I'd give Wiha higher points on the handles.

Overall though, I'd opt for the Snap-On's. Better tips, and the handles are quite decent (some may prefer them to Wiha anyway, as that comes down to personal preference).

Cybermike · Mar 14, 2015

Bought the set at a fleamarket in Germany, new in the box for € 65,-. It was a good day

Cybermike · Mar 14, 2015

Gedore promotional.

Cybermike · Mar 14, 2015

Kukko nut splitter for big nuts.

Veribor Blue Line suction lifter

HG hydraulic gage holder

Gražvydas · Mar 14, 2015

dede2897234 said:
Gražvydas said:

Side cutters

Gražvydas,

Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting pictures of your tools! I am especially drooling over the above picture of your side cutters.

Have you used much the Wiha BiCut Professional (Z 18 0 05) pliers? If yes, have you ran anything that it cannot cut?

Thanks,

Dave

Click to expand...

cut some bolts,srews,chain all its ok no blades damage,its made in vietnam but quality good
new tools
Knipex nedle nose 26 16 200 and nws scizors 0401-190

wiha pz2 and pz1 srewdriver

SantaAna12 · Mar 14, 2015

Dr.JohnnyFever said:
Some 600N arrived this week. I got the Stahwilles a while back.

Looking damn good!

powertool · Mar 14, 2015

From another auction that I won, bunch of NOS tools in a box:

This is my favourite from the last auction, I call it 'black screwdriver'....

I not tell how much I've paid for the last 2 auctions deal.... or ya'all gonna cry hihi

:bounce:

sonvolt · Mar 14, 2015

I love this thread

powertool · Mar 14, 2015

Monte said:
Picked up some Witte slotted bits and a 1/4" sq.dr. to 1/4" hex adaptor....

Monte, how do you like Witte bits? And do you happen to know if the 'stainless' version is significant better then the basic version?

Monte · Mar 14, 2015

Cybermike said:
Gedore promotional.

Do you have a part number ?

powertool said:
From another auction that I won, bunch of NOS tools in a box:

**** black Felo :drool:

some more Gedore 3/8" dr. impact sockets:

Cybermike · Mar 14, 2015

Monte said:
Do you have a part number ?

Sorry can't help you, there is no part number :sad:

. I got it when i bought the Gedore set 7R-012 back in 2007 or 2008.

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