Tools from the old world

Peeb · Oct 15, 2015

target · Oct 15, 2015

Toptul- bit ratchet handle smooth and very good quality
Narex-Made in Czech Republic most powerful and heavy T handle I've ever used... + USH Made in Germany bits is one screw destroyer team :rocker:

and..
Olfa knive + Black Ultra Sharp Blade +25% sharper than the regular one.. Is makes me cutting every day all day long

jetdawg · Oct 15, 2015

Man I miss how nice stanley used to be.

dutchgray · Oct 15, 2015

Those English made ones are better than any of the USA made Stanley knifes that I have had.

hautpot · Oct 15, 2015

Why do you always find the most esquisite and rare stuff?!??!

Dave455 · Oct 15, 2015

jetdawg said:
Man I miss how nice stanley used to be.

The British Made stuff from the post war era was never quite as sweet as the beautiful pre war Stanley tools that we originally got here, but at least it was fit for the purpose, which little of the current stuff is!

With respect to knives, the British made 'Slimknife" blades were actually made by Swann Morton, the scalpel manufacturers, which may explain their quality.

They were, however, one of the many casualties of the cost/quality cutting that has been going on. You can still buy top quality craft knives and blades from Swann Morton, which are every bit as good as the old Stanley ones, you just have to work a bit harder to find them.

Stanley kept making the full size blades much longer, but the quality dropped towards the end. You can still get British made alternatives to these too (sometimes marked 'Footprint", sometimes just 'Sheffield"}. Trades such as wallpaper hangers rely on them, as the current ones won't stay sharp enough to make one full height cut without tearing the paper!

Dave455 · Oct 15, 2015

Needed another set of Torx bits, to include the larger sizes, for my road box!

I can only afford the Snap On ones when they are on "Special" and they weren't, so it looked like a choice between Stahlwille and KoKen, till I noticed TBS Aachen had an offer on these!

Despite being something of a Stahlwille fan, I always enjoy receiving Hazet tools. They're not shiny at all, but seriously rugged, yet stylish with a certain sort of 'Industrial Chic"!

There are some items where I believe they really excel. Their 600N long combination wrenches are one, and these Torx bits with the gold (presumably TiN coated) finish are another!

I even like the box!

upgrading · Oct 15, 2015

Peeb said:
<a href="http://upic.me/show/56989543" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="http://upic.me/i/ky/7x001.jpg"></a>

target said:

Good stuff.

Vinko · Oct 16, 2015

Dave455 said:
Needed another set of Torx bits, to include the larger sizes, for my road box!

I can only afford the Snap On ones when they are on "Special" and they weren't, so it looked like a choice between Stahlwille and KoKen, till I noticed TBS Aachen had an offer on these!

Despite being something of a Stahlwille fan, I always enjoy receiving Hazet tools. They're not shiny at all, but seriously rugged, yet stylish with a certain sort of 'Industrial Chic"!

There are some items where I believe they really excel. Their 600N long combination wrenches are one, and these Torx bits with the gold (presumably TiN coated) finish are another!

I even like the box!

man that's a nice set up. I guess I'd prefer Stahlwille or Hazet over SO sockets any day! But the SO's are much more common over year

My old Swiss mechanic always said: "Get Stahlwille sockets and SO ratchets"

Vinko · Oct 16, 2015

Nice seeing those Stanley box cutters/shop knives made in England. We have a few of the 99 model with that COO stamped on the housing. Was Stanley importing English made stuff in the US? I assume so for some of the older tools, but I wonder when they stopped doing so? I seem to recall that you could still find stuff (At least on the hardware store shelves in the 80's and 90's).

Blöckw@rt · Oct 16, 2015

losvre · Oct 16, 2015

Hultafors utility knife. It seems very sturdy and good quality but not coo -probably China

View media item 50843
View media item 50851
View media item 53771
Cheers

losvre · Oct 16, 2015

Hitachi impact sockets set - have to check for the coo. Not reaally needed but for 30 Euros could not resist and bought 2 one for me and one for my dad

View media item 53776

fech · Oct 16, 2015

A few things to add to the collection. First, a great flag I got from a friend on this site. That's only half of it! I had to fold it over to fit in my garage! (Awesome :rocker:

)

Next is my newest Hazet set. Can't wait to use it. Luckily my radiator went out so I will get the chance this weekend.

fech · Oct 16, 2015

Dave455 said:
Needed another set of Torx bits, to include the larger sizes, for my road box!

I can only afford the Snap On ones when they are on "Special" and they weren't, so it looked like a choice between Stahlwille and KoKen, till I noticed TBS Aachen had an offer on these!

Despite being something of a Stahlwille fan, I always enjoy receiving Hazet tools. They're not shiny at all, but seriously rugged, yet stylish with a certain sort of 'Industrial Chic"!

There are some items where I believe they really excel. Their 600N long combination wrenches are one, and these Torx bits with the gold (presumably TiN coated) finish are another!

I even like the box!

great set! That's on my list for future purchases.

losvre · Oct 16, 2015

Combines with the following cheap impact driver could be a lethal weapon

View media item 53774
And some gedore 5/16 bits - most often used sizes

View media item 53617
View media item 53616

target · Oct 16, 2015

losvre said:
Hultafors utility knife. It seems very sturdy and good quality but not coo -probably China

View media item 50843
View media item 50851
View media item 53771
Cheers

No... it's assembled in Sweden but i am not sure from who, but i am 100% sure the steel is from Japan. That's why dont stamp them COO ..law marketing stuff i guess.

losvre · Oct 16, 2015

target said:
No... it's assembled in Sweden but i am not sure from who, but i am 100% sure the steel is from Japan. That's why dont stamp them COO ..law marketing stuff i guess.

Thanks for the info, I will buy one more then, just in case!

Kensgarage · Oct 16, 2015

willhollin said:
Looking for a 1/2" square drive to 1/4" hex impact bit holder, what's out there guys?

The more compact the better!

This thing. I like it.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002KKBBR4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Cybermike · Oct 17, 2015

some new tools to join my collection

Beargrip ratchet screwdriver:

Pressol oilers:

'ETC Industrial' Flex Socket Wrenches
Coo = Japan
I have no further information about ETC industrial

Cybermike · Oct 17, 2015

Some more tools:

Beargrip Torx key set:

Facom Blade Knive 844c (2 types)

Löwe en Knipex cutters
The Knipex cutter has an original Löwe blade

Monte · Oct 17, 2015

Peeb said:
.

nice vintage Stanley tools !

Dave455 said:
Needed another set of Torx bits

sweeeeet ! :drool:

willhollin said:
Looking for a 1/2" square drive to 1/4" hex impact bit holder, what's out there guys?
The more compact the better!

http://www.kokenusa.com/products/product/94

Cybermike said:
some new tools to join my collection

cool space age tools ! :thumbup:

LED Lenser P4 BM

NonSenCe · Oct 17, 2015

beta 910 ratchet set arrived.. and was returned within hours.

the sockets and extensions were classy and neat looking and feeling.
the metal case was nice and compact. its carrying handle was plastic and little on flimsy side and bit too small in size for my mitts.

but have to say the handle of the ratchet was one of the nicest i have held, it was very nicely shaped, not just bulbous round blob like many are.

biggest issue with the set was ratcheting action.
for a ratchet having that many teeth (72) the backdrag was way way too much.

the simple crude way of testing i do: attach extension, grab it, hang the ratchet from it down and turn the extension until it ratchets.

with my old mannesmann cheapo, it barely nudges as i try it. with beta i could turn from 6 oclock (handle straight down) to over 7 oclock until almost 8 oclock. way too stiff to my liking.

the hazet (30 or so tooth) starts to ratchet from 7 oclock too. this i kind of expected with its coarse teeth count. nice thing is that both did rotate back to "zero six" after they started moving down.

...........
so search continues of good ratchet -(set).

next up.. likely the "swedish" Bahco. the one that i learned googling/here in garagejournal that is very similar to the snap-on dual80 ratchet.. just made in spain. that i think i can find locally somewhere to try out without actually ordering it and paying in advance. (i know i can get my hands on the cheaper 72 tooth quickrelease models atleast)

i found someone here selling stahlwille locally, but they didnt have the finetooth ratchet version in stock to try out. (the price they asked was huge compared to german sites tho) will go there later next week to see what else cool stuff they do have there.. they were closing shop for the day when i went there. (my timetables do not mesh well with regular officehours)

...................

the beta screwdrivers i keep.

the handle feels nice. its part hard slippery kind of plastic (orange). and the black panels are slightly raised of the orange and have more grippy texture. they are nicely spaced for me. i rest the end in my palm and then i can rotate the screwdriver with my thumb by placing it on the slippery orange bit and turn against the raised black panel. and next panel gap is there for next thumb roll. but i will likely get some fine sanding paper and scuff the tail ends of the drivers for a bit more traction.

dutchgray · Oct 17, 2015

I don't think that is a fair way to test the back drag on a new ratchet, they tend to loosen up with use and fine tooth ones are often stiff when new.
My Facom 3/8" round head is probably the lowest back drag when new and is still super smooth. I have a Bahco with dual 80 guts and that was quite draggy when new.

ice7 · Oct 17, 2015

These clutches are very rare in our area of Ukraine

https://yadi.sk/i/thnNWIi2joetF
https://yadi.sk/i/FGkBKbd_joepq
https://yadi.sk/i/FGkBKbd_joepq
https://yadi.sk/i/nXm4Rs0ojoerM

upgrading · Oct 17, 2015

That Beargrip stuff looks interesting.
Is that in production now or NOS ?

rice rocket · Oct 17, 2015

NonSenCe said:
beta 910 ratchet set arrived.. and was returned within hours.

the sockets and extensions were classy and neat looking and feeling.
the metal case was nice and compact. its carrying handle was plastic and little on flimsy side and bit too small in size for my mitts.

but have to say the handle of the ratchet was one of the nicest i have held, it was very nicely shaped, not just bulbous round blob like many are.

biggest issue with the set was ratcheting action.
for a ratchet having that many teeth (72) the backdrag was way way too much.

the simple crude way of testing i do: attach extension, grab it, hang the ratchet from it down and turn the extension until it ratchets.

with my old mannesmann cheapo, it barely nudges as i try it. with beta i could turn from 6 oclock (handle straight down) to over 7 oclock until almost 8 oclock. way too stiff to my liking.

the hazet (30 or so tooth) starts to ratchet from 7 oclock too. this i kind of expected with its coarse teeth count. nice thing is that both did rotate back to "zero six" after they started moving down.

I had these exact same thoughts when I bought my Beta 910. The grip is easily the best I've used, but there was a lot of back drag. Everyone said it was strong because it had 17 teeth engaged always, but I was convinced that it couldn't have low back drag because of the same reason. I wasn't too fond of it, and it sat in my drawer.

A few months roll by and I'm searching around, and learn that Beta and USAG ratchets are built on very similar mechanisms, USAG seems to substitute coil springs for leaf springs. That USAG mechanism is shared in the Facom palm control ratchet that everyone seems to like, and which I have used in the past and remember being very smooth!

Started using it about once a week and 3 months later, the back drag is a lot less than I remember it, not as low as my Dual 80, but definitely less than my Armstrong 60-tooth, and on par with my 72-tooth Hazet 1/2" drive.

If that is your only complaint, just use it a bit, it loosens up and gets really nice.

Beta design:

Facom:

FMC1959 · Oct 18, 2015

Monte said:
also new:
Fein ALED "daylight" LED light works with 12/14/18 volt battery packs
(49.-€ + tax)

Monte, I was doing a Google search for this Fein LED and this post of yours came up. Do you know of any place currently selling it (online and ships to US or Canada would be great)?

Cybermike · Oct 18, 2015

upgrading said:
That Beargrip stuff looks interesting.
Is that in production now or NOS ?

These are NOS. Beargrip Holland is no more.
Nowdays a smaller selection of tools is made in Slovakia.
http://www.beargrip.eu/en/index.html

Monte · Oct 18, 2015

FMC1959 said:
Monte, I was doing a Google search for this Fein LED and this post of yours came up. Do you know of any place currently selling it (online and ships to US or Canada would be great)?

I only found this store but they charge too much:
http://www.outillage2000.com/accessoires-et-consommables/lampe-led-sans-fil-fein-aled-12-18-v.html
I also don´t know if they ship overseas since i don´t understand their website

I will order the light through my dealer on monday....
btw. fyi: it´s "Designed in Germany/Made in Taiwan"

Monte · Oct 18, 2015

Footprint Gimlet

losvre · Oct 19, 2015

I see all is quite around here,

View media item 53794
View media item 53793

View media item 53796

ticci · Oct 19, 2015

Some "German quality" as it says on the package. Stahlwille, hazet, witte and cimco drivers.

View media item 54196
Also 1,5 and 2 mm drills made by Alpen, Austria.

dutchgray · Oct 19, 2015

Monte said:
Footprint Gimlet

Where did you find that, Sheffield stopped using the 0742 area code in 1995 so that's been around a while.

Monte · Oct 19, 2015

ticci said:
Some "German quality" as it says on the package. Stahlwille, hazet, witte and cimco drivers.

Looks like a Witte sample package ?

dutchgray said:
Where did you find that, Sheffield stopped using the 0742 area code in 1995 so that's been around a while.

Found it at this store. They sell insurance losses. It was the only one. They had a mix of mostly DIY stuff old and new, common and exotic stuff but nothing really special except this tool

Coram multi tool blade

KnurledNut · Oct 19, 2015

Anyone know who made these sockets for Black & Decker?

superautobacs · Oct 19, 2015

KnurledNut said:
Anyone know who made these sockets for Black & Decker?

Maybe Matador or Elora? :dunno:

Monte · Oct 20, 2015

Ballistol brake cleaner

Carves · Oct 20, 2015

Cybermike said:
'ETC Industrial' Flex Socket Wrenches
Coo = Japan
I have no further information about ETC industrial

ETC's japanese made spanners, sockets etc., had a reasonable reputation down here - back when they were available new.

I still find a few good ones at garage sales.

Not top of the line tools ... but solid and dependable ... fairly typical of the 70's/80's japanese, export stuff ... which was branded according to a resellers whims.

ETC appears to be Swedish based - if the internet is correct.

losvre · Oct 21, 2015

Monte said:
Ballistol brake cleaner

Hey Monte guten Morgen, do you only use posh tools and consumables

Nice stuff though and the colour of the cam would match the following

View media item 53793
Have a good day

Tools from the old world

Well-known member

Active member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

Active member

Well-known member

Banned

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

New member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Attachments

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member