Tools from the old world

[hautpot]

Blow gun at my workplace, quality feels good. However, I still like the JWL blow guns better.

And the "toolmaker" (that my workplace recently aquired) that the air gun is attached to: (German + Japanese designed)

As a bonus, this is a press I have been told that has been in service for 20 years:

 

[Dave455]

Where are these Vallorbe-Grobet engineers files made, they seem to cheap to be Swiss made ?

http://www.onlyqualitytools.com/catalog/Vallorbe/Engineers_Files.html

http://www.vallorbe.com/Standard.php?p=520&m=4&l=3#

They are definitely Swiss!

What's happening here is that you are buying decent tools from a tool dealer who is putting a fair mark up on his prices, rather than buying **** from a DIY store who is putting a huge markup on, and reaching the same price!

Buy some - best value out there for files at the mo!

 

[Monte]

Very nice, thanks for sharing the pics. This got me to the following question: Does someone by coincidence know where (preferably in the US) to get Wiha pliers made in Switzerland (I think this was their last European COO before moving production to Vietnam)? Sadly, these should be all NOS by now...

the VDE pliers are still advertised as swiss made
http://www.kctoolco.com/wiha-insulated-combination-pliers-7-inch-p/32816.htm
maybe they have not updated the info ...? maybe mail them and order all swiss made pliers before they´re gone

And the "toolmaker" (that my workplace recently aquired) that the air gun is attached to: (German + Japanese designed)

now that are some cool tools i wish i had














Espuna welding gloves.
supposed to be made in France

If the catalog tells the truth...

 

[decaf]

Blow gun at my workplace, quality feels good. However, I still like the JWL blow guns better.

I have a wurth blowgun, i belive that comes from Cejn also.
Cejn is the best in quality when it comes to airfittings etc here in Sweden:
http://www.cejn.se/

 

[losvre]

They are definitely Swiss!

What's happening here is that you are buying decent tools from a tool dealer who is putting a fair mark up on his prices, rather than buying **** from a DIY store who is putting a huge markup on, and reaching the same price!

Buy some - best value out there for files at the mo!

I have got a few files and a rasp and I have to say that they are very sharp. Not able to confirm the coo because I bought the with handles and cannot see all the sign on them.

Also, the service is very good and I am looking to see what other I can buy. However o am not a pro and my budget is not unlimited.

 

[hautpot]

Yes, do that please because that's the reason I bought them, I was working with the oldest version in my previous work, those looked like the counterfeit.

Finally found some time to take pictures of some genuine Mitutoyo. The most abused is property of workplace (1). The other two are employee owned [coworker (3) and I (2)]

As you can see, mm is ALWAYS at bottom on screen. Imperial is at above middle for oldest and below middle at the two newer generation. Plastic housing has also become more refined. Screen size has also increased. Button placement has not changed nor has the slide locking knob. Minor changes as noted are material changes and circuitry redesigns.

When you place new battery, screen should flash and return to METRIC when set.

At rear, oldest has a saw dredge channel. Newer ones has a milled slot

Lastly, the fit, finish, parallelism, battery life, and response also indicate the true pedigree of calipers.

 

[hautpot]

I have a wurth blowgun, i belive that comes from Cejn also.
Cejn is the best in quality when it comes to airfittings etc here in Sweden:
http://www.cejn.se/

They indeed are the OEM for Würth! I wish to add that the JWL blow gun feels better in my hands, but the trigger bends more than the Cejn. Regardless both are very good! I was going to buy Würth air fittings, but now I think I try the Cejn.

 

[maico]

I've got one of these incoming. Seems quite a rare spec: Wiha Pozidrive with metal strike cap and micro finish handle for greasy or wet hands. Not cheap though, same price as the PB Swiss PH strike cap models.

 

[Miskin]

Finally found some time to take pictures of some genuine Mitutoyo. The most abused is property of workplace (1). The other two are employee owned [coworker (3) and I (2)]

As you can see, mm is ALWAYS at bottom on screen. Imperial is at above middle for oldest and below middle at the two newer generation. Plastic housing has also become more refined. Screen size has also increased. Button placement has not changed nor has the slide locking knob. Minor changes as noted are material changes and circuitry redesigns.


Lastly, the fit, finish, parallelism, battery life, and response also indicate the true pedigree of calipers.

Thanks!
My fake Mitutoyo has no button selector inch/mm. Metric is the only option.

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[hautpot]

They have metric only and both systems. But no imperial only!

It does not mean your caliper is fake. Your best bet is to look at the finish and compare.

 

[Miskin]

They have metric only and both systems. But no imperial only!

It does not mean your caliper is fake. Your best bet is to look at the finish and compare.

My caliper is fake not because of the button. The finish and quality is low. Check the lettering "Mitutoyo" on the left caliper of your photo, which is an old one. Now check the lettering on mine. It is fading and it is almost anused. Also the battery is the wrong type.

 

[hautpot]

ah okay! I misunderstood. yes those are indicators of fakes.

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

Gedore 2005 CT4-7 XL
Set of extra long metric wrenches from 10mm to 41mm (7 XL 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 21 22 24 27 30 32 36 41)


Made in Germany.

As the set does not contain the wrench sizes 7mm, 8mm, 9mm and 46mm, I bought the little ones seperately.





Bahco Laplander saw and knive




Made in Sweden.


Opinel No. 7 Winter Edition



Made in France.


Garant grip plier (made by Bollmann)


Made in Germany.

 

[Monte]

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nice haul !













Alpen cobalt drill bit set

 

[hautpot]

wow those twist drills look so nice! Do they export them to say...USA?

 

[Monte]

wow those twist drills look so nice! Do they export them to say...USA?

available in the US here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/660-Alpen-m...671553?hash=item35f7bdb481:g:364AAOSwT6pV0p4A
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alpen-PROFE...992087?hash=item4af6ba6ad7:g:aG8AAOSwX~dWiuZe

I´m sure somebody also will export them to the US. I found shops around the world from South Africa, Malaysia, Australia etc. selling Alpen but not USA
Maybe try to get a set from the UK:
http://www.workshopping.co.uk/category/alpen-drill-sets/2169/

 

[node105]

Hazet 6-point 1/2" sockets and long 3/8" sockets a couple of days ago.

 

[maico]

available in the US here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/660-Alpen-m...671553?hash=item35f7bdb481:g:364AAOSwT6pV0p4A
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alpen-PROFE...992087?hash=item4af6ba6ad7:g:aG8AAOSwX~dWiuZe

I´m sure somebody also will export them to the US. I found shops around the world from South Africa, Malaysia, Australia etc. selling Alpen but not USA
Maybe try to get a set from the UK:
http://www.workshopping.co.uk/category/alpen-drill-sets/2169/

Quite well known in the UK. There are over 2000 ebay.co.uk listings for them which is more than on ebay.de

 

[maico]

Hazet 6-point 1/2" sockets and long 3/8" sockets a couple of days ago.

Hazet magnetic cup. I wish I knew somebody rich enough to buy me one at

 

[fech]

Some old school Hazet tools sent to me from a friend on this site.

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[mali]

Baildon also makes high quality twist drills
http://www.wiertla.pl/index.php
or Fanar
http://www.fanar.pl/en/

I think, you will be positively surprised if you try to drill something.

 

[chikongio]

Monte,
Where can I purchase Katimex fish tapes? Is it possible for me to purchase the tapes from Germany?

 

[Snakevz]

Ice scraper for pavement, forged by Kovacnica Muta, Slovenia

 

[decaf]

Hazet magnetic cup. I wish I knew somebody rich enough to buy me one at

It costs 9 Euro online. that is not much....

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Wannen_/_Schalen_/_Trichter_c2943.htm

 

[Monte]

Hazet 6-point 1/2" sockets and long 3/8" sockets a couple of days ago.

ooohhh nice i love Hazet sockets

Quite well known in the UK. There are over 2000 ebay.co.uk listings for them which is more than on ebay.de

luckily we have a Hornbach big box store here so i can get them offline too. Virtually the only source to get some EU made drill bits offline...

Some old school Hazet tools sent to me from a friend on this site.

Monte,
Where can I purchase Katimex fish tapes? Is it possible for me to purchase the tapes from Germany?

here are some offerings which ships internationally:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...0.TRC0.H0.Xkatimex.TRS0&_nkw=katimex&_sacat=0

 

[Superbec]

got a bunch of tools today...

Bahco chisel is made in Spain, incredibly sharp, I never had wood working tools before.

So Hornbach has those Alpen drills in stock? going to ride a hornbach store next week .

 

[maico]

It costs 9 Euro online. that is not much....

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Wannen_/_Schalen_/_Trichter_c2943.htm

It is if you live in Burundi ! Check out the 2015 IMF figures for GDP per head. Mind you, Germany, perhaps surprisingly, is well behind the US, Australia and the UK too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

I've got a big 200 euro tool haul currently being assembled by TBS, I'll see if I can get that cup added to it. Even tool Fuhrer-experten Monte might not own one...

 

[JonnyMac]

It costs 9 Euro online. that is not much....

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Wannen_/_Schalen_/_Trichter_c2943.htm

Aghh so cheap but they dont ship to australia!!

 

[Champo]

Aghh so cheap but they dont ship to australia!!

They definitely ship to Australia! I've ordered from them a few times. its a bit tricky though, but I think I made an account with them and just entered my address.

 

[maico]

They definitely ship to Australia! I've ordered from them a few times. its a bit tricky though, but I think I made an account with them and just entered my address.

As the items are shipping outside of the EU make sure they knock off the 19% German MwSt (vat sales tax)

 

[node105]

Aghh so cheap but they dont ship to australia!!

TBS Aachen certainly DO ship to Oz; I have had 6 orders (c. $3200 AUD) over the last 3 years from them, and I have always found their shipping rates quite reasonable too.
Their service has been unreservedly excellent.

I called in to look at the shop 2 years ago in Aachen when in Germany, fantastic place.

Register with them online, then the displayed prices are less the 19% VAT

Nothing tricky at all with the ordering process in my experience.

 

[hautpot]

Can you folks explain this Value added tax to a simpleton American like me??? I just can't comprehend what you say 19%. That sounds insane!

 

[handtools-from-germany]

It costs 9 Euro online. that is not much....

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Wannen_/_Schalen_/_Trichter_c2943.htm

Well, i deliver the cup for 14,95 EUR to your door in Australia. It is an registered economy shipping to your door incl. insurance and "light tracking".

 

[handtools-from-germany]

my new Stahlwille presentation

New Stahlwille concept wall with basic assortment for a fast delivery

 

[handtools-from-germany]

 

[dutchgray]

Can you folks explain this Value added tax to a simpleton American like me??? I just can't comprehend what you say 19%. That sounds insane!

For the end consumer it works just like a sales tax, its applied on most things but some stuff is at reduced or zero rates. We pay 20% here. Unlike the US we can't get out of paying it on internet orders either. Where it is different is the value added part, businesses in the supply chain have to change vat on the value they add to their products and services but they get to claim back the vat they paid on the inputs. The accountants do well from all the paper work. People on low incomes have low income tax rates (nothing under £10000 then 10%) and often get decent benefits back from the state to make living affordable. High earners pay much more income tax.

 

[sljeme345]

Alpen cobalt drill bit set

Very nice, Monte
A colleague had Bahco store and through him I bought Bahco drill from Alpena,
they are good quality. The last two years, buy drills from Dormer and Diager, who are also very good.

 

[sljeme345]

Re: my new Stahlwille presentation

New Stahlwille concept wall with basic assortment for a fast delivery

It is sad that in Croatia we do not have big Stahwille store with concept wall or some showcase tools...

 

[handtools-from-germany]

Re: my new Stahlwille presentation

It is sad that in Croatia we do not have big Stahwille store with concept wall or some showcase tools...

Well, as an authorized dealer I have the opportunity to show you the Stahlwille plant. Croatia is not so far away from Germany.
Stahlwille has completed the historical counting house recently. An interesting exhibition awaits you here also.

 

[maico]

Facom cantilever toolbox.. made in Italy.

side-cutters, made in France

Nice