decaf
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From Bauhaus:
Tools from the old world
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HCNDM
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From Bauhaus:
Thats an interesting head design. Reminds me a little of the Wera jokers.
Is matador still made in de?
It would appear the German big brand hardware store (bauhaus- hornbach) have some decent stuff.
Dutch big brand stores (gamma - praxis - karwei) seam to top out with skandia and bahco. Some Stanley and a lot of chicom. Bahco isn't what it was since Stanley took over.
Praxis used to have a lot of LUX. That wasn't a bad thing as LUX often had good stuff rebranded.
Indeed. Funnily enough him and his wife still seem to get confused over Imperial measurements. There have been a couple of small wrong things supplied to me in the past, for example, a 5/16th Gerdore bit adapter which they couldn't quite seem to comprehend
They need training from Monte.....HCNDM
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For years Norbar didn't put the CO on their torque wrenches supplied to and rebranded to other companies.
I could never understand why as they are made in Banbury near Oxford. Even wrenches supplied to a big UK chain-store like Halfords didn't advertise they were UK made and that spares are available. Instead they sat on the same shelf as Chinese **** which was almost the same price.
Bizarre given they are the largest torque tool manufacturer in Europe and their fixed torque products can be found in many factories.
3/8th 20-100 Nm 72 teeth switchable and 1/2" 60-300 Nm 60 teeth push through which I use on wheel nuts.
The date code is engraved on the handle end. 2005 on the 3/8th with what looks like a model sequential serial number approaching 1 million.
The 1/2" is 2006 134,000
I think most consumers didn't care for coo throughout the 80's 90's and 00's. As long as it was cheap.
So why bother if most of you customers don't care?
I'm glad this is slowly changing and parts of western society are focusing on high quality locally made goods. And sustainable production for that matter.
China's industrialization is killing our planet fast.
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Yes. Where snap-on retains quality... Bahco is growing ever closer to the consumer line.
Production has been moved almost completely to Spain if I am not mistaken. It's still pretty good but not what it was.
Still trying to find more of these out of the old line:
It's a great driver. Ten times the current lineup and still my go to. It's ten years old seen heavy use.
Snapon is clearly positioning bahco as a premium consumer brand.
Stanley Is positioning facom as their high end pro brand in Europe.
Sadly they are not sticking to a made in Europe policy as snapon is still largely doing with snap-on made in USA. I recently bought a facom 440 ratchet set. The ratchet is Italy I'm told the sockets Taiwan. Quality so far has proven excellent. Regardless of coo.
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HCNDM
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You're right
So in correction to my above... Snapon the doesn't really have a readily available premium brand in Europe.
Stanley as competitor has facom see above
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maybe they hadn´t everything in stock so they waited until everything arrived before charging the card ?
nice little set ! How do you like the case ?Stahlwille 1/4" socket set 40/44/17/5 KN in plastic case 2016.
Hazet 916LG extendable ratchet up to 59cm long.
did you order by part number... ?Indeed. Funnily enough him and his wife still seem to get confused over Imperial measurements. There have been a couple of small wrong things supplied to me in the past, for example, a 5/16th Gerdore bit adapter which they couldn't quite seem to comprehend
Workshop office equipment:
Ottoni Fabbrica electric kettle
I don't understand what you mean ? You can buy directly from their UK based website (expensive) or from an EU dealer.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog.asp?store=uk
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Most likely, but I kept asking for them to charge me back when it was 1.11 USD to 1 EUR. They waited until it was 1.14 USD to 1 EUR. This doesn't help them at all, only hurts me. And then on top of it they charged me more than they said they would for one of the items. Still waiting for a reply to my question on that issue.
HCNDM
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Your right maico,
I should have added affordable competitive to the sentence.
Dealers in holland as mentioned in a previous post won't sell to me as a consumer.
Ordering from the uk adds so much shipping cost it becomes very expensive.
I am not ranting against snapon [emoji6] I have a love affair with them since my aviation days.
They simply aren't readily, easily available at a price point similar to in the US or even UK.
I do have the luxury that my sister lives in the US. So I can order on their US site deliver to her and she brings it with on her yearly holiday.
That doesn't change the fact that it's still not a brand I can get without going through extra lengths.
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I think you don't evaluate right the brand (Bahco)Yes. Where snap-on retains quality... Bahco is growing ever closer to the consumer line.
Production has been moved almost completely to Spain if I am not mistaken. It's still pretty good but not what it was.
Still trying to find more of these out of the old line:
It's a great driver. Ten times the current lineup and still my go to. It's ten years old seen heavy use.
Snapon is clearly positioning bahco as a premium consumer brand.
Stanley Is positioning facom as their high end pro brand in Europe.
Sadly they are not sticking to a made in Europe policy as snapon is still largely doing with snap-on made in USA. I recently bought a facom 440 ratchet set. The ratchet is Italy I'm told the sockets Taiwan. Quality so far has proven excellent. Regardless of coo.
Bahco produce in many countrys (Spain, France, Sweeden, Portugal, Argentina, and the for the standard quality Taiwan and China) and depend the line of the tools the quality. I think It's wrong evaluate all with same scale
The "ergo" line it's excellent. Pliers and side cutters mostly from Spain. I used and abused and never let me down.
The adjustable wrench still the best (Spain and Argentina ). And the same factory makes Snap On
The Pipe wrench. Excellent. And rebranded Snap On the same tool (coo Argentina )
Files are great (Portugal), Chiesel are very good (France).
Wrenchs and Sockets coo Argentina are excellent quality.
I love the good tools, I have only top quality brands
Wrenches: Snap On, Proto, Facom, Stahlwille, Belzer (Germany), Bahco (Argentina)
Sockets: Snap On, Proto, Facom, Bahco (Argentina), Wurth Zebra
Ratchets/Torquemeter: Snap On, Facom, Bahco (Spain, USA, Argentina), Proto, Belzer (Germany )
Screwdrivers: Wiha, Snap On, Bahco (Spain), Proto, Wera, PB Swiss (precision)
Allen/Torx: Bondhus, Eklind, Snap On
Files, Saws, Chiesel: Bahco (Portugal, Swiss, Sweeden, France)
Pliers: Knipex, Bahco (Spain, France), Proto, Snap On, klein
Adjustable Wrenches: Bahco (Argentina, Sweeden, Spain), Snap on
Pipe Wrench: Bahco (Argentina), Ridgid
All my Bahco stuff ergo line. I used different brands and I compare simultaneously on different jobs. Depend the work, the tool. But all excellent quality.
Best Regards
G. //
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superautobacs
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HWB open-barrel crimper. An oldie but a goodie
And another specialty tool, with a Garant socket:
That was old and tired so the new one was ordered, and this time it's a genuine Stahlwille socket:
And another specialty tool, with a Garant socket:
That was old and tired so the new one was ordered, and this time it's a genuine Stahlwille socket:
HCNDM
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Sorry if I have the impression that I think bahco is bad brand. It's not.
You're right some of their stuff is still excellent.
Example
I still also get bahco tools like the saw above.
For some reason this model works better for me as a left handed person.
I'm saying some of their stuff is not what it was. I feel that in the past if I grabbed orange and black off the rack I was guaranteed good stuff. In the last couple of years that hasn't always been the case.
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will keep a lookout for the ergo line. Most in stores around me seems to be the consumer base line. The one I have been disappointed in lately.
Interesting fact: an adjustable spanner in holland is often simply referred to as a bahco. An homage to these being the best adjustables around I would guess.
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Interesting fact: an adjustable spanner in holland is often simply referred to as a bahco. An homage to these being the best adjustables around I would guess.
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decaf
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Tools in action, works like a dream:
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And another specialty tool, with a Garant socket:
That was old and tired so the new one was ordered, and this time it's a genuine Stahlwille socket:
For turning BMW engines over?
HCNDM
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Made in spain. Perform wel!
Dare i say perhaps a little better than the Irwin hss that they are replacing.
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https://www.prof-tools.nl/detail.asp?Lang=1&Prod=115539
behold , probably the most expensive hammer I will ever buy, ordered with a garnish of other pb swiss tools , I was a pbswiss virgin.
waiting for the postman....
behold , probably the most expensive hammer I will ever buy, ordered with a garnish of other pb swiss tools , I was a pbswiss virgin.
waiting for the postman....
Monte, where did you get the kettle from? I am also looking a kettle made in Europe but all I can see in UK are made in China, and I mean all differnt brands, tefal, Philips, etc.
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Totally agree.... I don't know why the companies do that. The standard quality could be managed with the Irimo brand and not use Bahco with different lines of tools.Sorry if I have the impression that I think bahco is bad brand. It's not.
You're right some of their stuff is still excellent.
Example
I still also get bahco tools like the saw above.
For some reason this model works better for me as a left handed person.
I'm saying some of their stuff is not what it was. I feel that in the past if I grabbed orange and black off the rack I was guaranteed good stuff. In the last couple of years that hasn't always been the case.
For example the same with Bosch. Bosch with COO Germany or Swiss... no doubt to buy it. Brazilian stuff.... usually disappoint me. The same with Gedore
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ok if you did order for several 1000$ it would hurt...
that they did charge more than they said....not good...i only did order there once - no problems....most people seem to be happy though...in Germany it´s only available @ Amazon:
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0031NWT3O/
There is a "made in Germany" option too:
https://www.ritterwerk.de/kettle-fontana-5/
Böttner countersink set for deburring
in Germany it´s only available @ Amazon:
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0031NWT3O/
There is a "made in Germany" option too:
https://www.ritterwerk.de/kettle-fontana-5/
Böttner countersink set for deburring
Nice stuff Monte
Thanks for info
I was also looking for the PBSwiss hammer, but then I also like the Lixie one. The difference is that PBSwiss uses disks and Lixie the pellets.
Lixie has two different PU plastic faces, not nylon. Any feedback??
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is that metal 3d printing?
Hi Superbec,
Yes that is all metal but I do not remember the exact alloy.
3D printing is actually used in production of dental prosthetic in many practices around the world.
However, when I asked about the warranty on such dental implants ot was certainly not lifetime as other conventional implants.
I think there is still a long way for application to high strength/ advanced structures due to heat treatment requirements, rolling/ forging and grain refinement.
It seems that is here to stay though.
Yes that is all metal but I do not remember the exact alloy.
3D printing is actually used in production of dental prosthetic in many practices around the world.
However, when I asked about the warranty on such dental implants ot was certainly not lifetime as other conventional implants.
I think there is still a long way for application to high strength/ advanced structures due to heat treatment requirements, rolling/ forging and grain refinement.
It seems that is here to stay though.
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Midwest made in USA. Tested on 0.8 stainless and cut it like paper!!
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Midwest made in USA. Tested on 0.8 stainless and cut it like paper!!
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