Tools from the old world

[thomfr]

Back to compressors...

still havent found a reason why its so hard to get a home user vertical compressor in Holland.

Just out of curiosity I looked also at the verticals and it looks like you only find either 240 volt ones (Airpress, Gude, Dewalt etc.) with only a 50 litre tank and rather small air volume. Or 200 liter on 400 Volt...

Why? I do not know. Probably because a lot of (semi) professionals work with separate air tanks beside a non-piston (do not know the right word in English) compressor Or big floor fixed piston compressors.

Thom

 

[HCNDM]

Just out of curiosity I looked also at the verticals and it looks like you only find either 240 volt ones (Airpress, Gude, Dewalt etc.) with only a 50 litre tank and rather small air volume. Or 200 liter on 400 Volt...



Why? I do not know. Probably because a lot of (semi) professionals work with separate air tanks beside a non-piston (do not know the right word in English) compressor Or big floor fixed piston compressors.



Thom

I agree most of the pro shops I know have screw compressors. But those are around four thousand euros.

I was thinking something like a 30gallon 5hp unit on 110v in the USA. This should be available as a hundred liter 2,5 hp in Europe in 220v.

Heck they are... You posted a perfectly good horizontal air press compressor that matches that description.

I feel like manufacturers are shooting themselves in the foot not doing a vertical config.

Especially considering space is the biggest problem everyone has in holland.


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[Beenman]

Nice vise! I also ordered my Ridgid Superior yesterday.

Hi Krokodil. Did you have to order this from overseas yourself, or are they available here from an importer?

 

[Superbec]

guys... it's a hard world...

for the diy 220v crowd it's very hard to find a vertical above 50L, I would say impossible to buy new and local

if you need lots of air I think this is the only option http://javac.eu/product/tx-3-bis-compressor/ not vertical though and will require some wiring in the garage

I can also tell you the 50L vertical takes almost as much space as an horizontal 50l...maybe the horizontal is easier to install under some shelves , make a sound proof box and be done with.

For home use the 50L airpress I think is enough , 100l is ofc nicer but he will also fill 2x slower, either of them can't support heavy air use .

I did tire changes with a chines 1.5hp 24l... for a while, it can be done.

 

[HCNDM]

guys... it's a hard world...

for the diy 220v crowd it's very hard to find a vertical above 50L, I would say impossible to buy new and local

if you need lots of air I think this is the only option http://javac.eu/product/tx-3-bis-compressor/ not vertical though and will require some wiring in the garage

I can also tell you the 50L vertical takes almost as much space as an horizontal 50l...maybe the horizontal is easier to install under some shelves , make a sound proof box and be done with.

For home use the 50L airpress I think is enough , 100l is ofc nicer but he will also fill 2x slower, either of them can't support heavy air use .

I did tire changes with a chines 1.5hp 24l... for a while, it can be done.

I have a Chinese kinzo 24l 1.5 hp it will do it but you have to push it there [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]




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[thomfr]

if you need lots of air I think this is the only option http://javac.eu/product/tx-3-bis-compressor/ not vertical though and will require some wiring in the garage

I like the little brother of the one you pointed out:

http://javac.eu/product/tx-3-4hp-compressor/ (sorry no English version available).
It has a soft start (low peak power) via a small low pressure tank before the big tank. Wonder about the rather low price for such a nice machine. Have to ask them where the pump comes from (China?).

Thom

 

[Monte]

Most excellent work Sir!

That is absolutely amazing. I'm in awe!

Very nice workmanship. I see that you've but your metal brake into work already .

Great workmanship Monte

Nice Work Monte!

Monte,
great job!!

Nice fabrication work there.

Thanks guys !

Anyone could guess the coo of this one?

Skil once made tools in Holland

Do you know if these lines around the centre hole are normal or the disk is defect!!!

it´s normal. It´s just the sticker.

Guys I am looking for magnifying glass/ loupe like 3in 1 if available.
Also I am after a lamp with magnifying glass even a used one. Please help me to have my money well spent

www.schweizer-optik.de
www.eschenbach-sehhilfen.com

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Thank you very much for these awesome pictures !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you should stay in Taiwan and post weekly tool reports from there ! They have more german tools in their shops than over here it seems

Who makes Freund Tools' Pliers? Stubai? NWS?

Some of their special pliers are made by Edma in France, some regular pliers are made by Orbis/Will.

Saw this today on youtube; the host is from a German based tuning shop, he does a walk through the Hazet factory and talks with workers there. Note: this is in German and not English but I still enjoyed seeing the Hazet manufacturing facilities, processes. I though others; might enjoy, this video as well.

This is "part 1"; so, there maybe more soon...

Welcome back and thanks for the video !

Hey guys,

I only found 50 ltr. compressors like this: https://www.bauhaus.info/kompressor...nce&show=Page&page=2&pageSize=12&view=Gallery
The larger ones are "a bit" larger and more €€€.

Maybe "DIY" would be an option....
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Druckluftkes...808475?hash=item35cf47139b:g:wsUAAOxyUrZS2bTO

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kompressor-A...089369?hash=item542c09c019:g:o6EAAOSwxvxW7~Y~

Khipex (China) and Knibax (India)

awesome !

 

[bike_freak]

Hey all,

Took a few months (I took breaks), but I have finally read the entire thread! It has cost me a great deal along the way and the words 'Made in Germany'/'Swiss Made' certainly feature more heavily in my tool box now.

Sorry if I missed it, but am looking for a more affordable option to the Stahlwille low-profile square socket adaptors. I've seen Facom offer them too, but can't find a good option with affordable shipping to Australia.

I already asked this question here without luck.

 

[superautobacs]

You won't be disappointed. German steel is easier to sharpen and better suited to daily use. They are often stainless too. The best Japanese knives are carbon steel and require a lot of tlc.

Whilst on the topic if you ever run into a Robert Herder paring knife in carbon steel grab it. Don't ever stick it in a dishwasher and enjoy it for many years.



They are the most awesome small kitchen knife ever!


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Not to hijack the thread but....
I remember the Herder name....and you made me dig this post up from another thread:


In another episode from the same TV series:
Taking us to Berlin, at a Michelin 3-star restaurant, the head chef there uses a Japanese knife he acquired from a German knife-maker in Solingen, Robert Herder.

The Lignum series knife incorporates a knife that's hand forged by a knife maker in Takefu, Japan, and is mated with Robert Herder's own wooden handle, which is polished to a Solingen tradition.

The company praises Japan's knife making craftsmanship and decided to import one of the forging hammers to train and educate the way the Japanese still make their knives today.

Let's all hope this great knife making tradition continues.

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[HCNDM]

Not to hijack the thread but....

I remember the Herder name....and you made me dig this post up from another thread:





In another episode from the same TV series:

Taking us to Berlin, at a Michelin 3-star restaurant, the head chef there uses a Japanese knife he acquired from a German knife-maker in Solingen, Robert Herder.



The Lignum series knife incorporates a knife that's hand forged by a knife maker in Takefu, Japan, and is mated with Robert Herder's own wooden handle, which is polished to a Solingen tradition.



The company praises Japan's knife making craftsmanship and decided to import one of the forging hammers to train and educate the way the Japanese still make their knives today.



Let's all hope this great knife making tradition continues.



<iframe frameborder="0" width="560"...a-Data" target="_blank">Houjicha-Data</a></i>

That's so cool! One of my mates is sous chef at a two Michelin star restaurant ( was he started on his own now). He got me into the Herder print knives.




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[superautobacs]

Hey all,

Took a few months (I took breaks), but I have finally read the entire thread! It has cost me a great deal along the way and the words 'Made in Germany'/'Swiss Made' certainly feature more heavily in my tool box now.

Sorry if I missed it, but am looking for a more affordable option to the Stahlwille low-profile square socket adaptors. I've seen Facom offer them too, but can't find a good option with affordable shipping to Australia.

I already asked this question here without luck.

Since you're in Australia.....can you get KTC tools?






My 1/4 -> 3/8 adaptor had a short life. I was using it on a 1/4 drive air ratchet and it didn't take too long before the square sheered off.

I don't think the Beta or the Stahlwille have solid square drives so they will be prone to sheering off if not used with care.

 

[HCNDM]

Thanks guys !



Skil once made tools in Holland

it´s normal. It´s just the sticker.



www.schweizer-optik.de

www.eschenbach-sehhilfen.com

Thank you very much for these awesome pictures !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you should stay in Taiwan and post weekly tool reports from there ! They have more german tools in their shops than over here it seems

Some of their special pliers are made by Edma in France, some regular pliers are made by Orbis/Will.



Welcome back and thanks for the video !



I only found 50 ltr. compressors like this: https://www.bauhaus.info/kompressor...nce&show=Page&page=2&pageSize=12&view=Gallery

The larger ones are "a bit" larger and more €€€.



Maybe "DIY" would be an option....

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Druckluftkes...808475?hash=item35cf47139b:g:wsUAAOxyUrZS2bTO



http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kompressor-A...089369?hash=item542c09c019:g:o6EAAOSwxvxW7~Y~



awesome !

Hi Monte,

Excellent idea! Even the 50l is less than half of what they are here.




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[losvre]

Bauhaus seems to stock from the new world

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[Superbec]

Hi Monte,

Excellent idea! Even the 50l is less than half of what they are here.




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You know you can get 380v easy , costs 250 or something and no extra costs for delivery for 3x25A , I have 380v in the house also

Then you can get the 380v from bauhaus

 

[losvre]

On another note,

Do you know if Festool produces sanders for another brand as OEM so I could get the ETS 150/5 EQ at a better price.

Is ther another sander with similar qualities to the Festool above I should consider?

Have a good day,

PS photos will come a bit later

 

[losvre]

How the KEIBA pliers compare to the KNIPEX? Same quality, better, etc.

I would like to buy a couple or more variants and would like some feedback for yuor experience.

Thank you!!!

 

[bike_freak]

Since you're in Australia.....can you get KTC tools?






My 1/4 -> 3/8 adaptor had a short life. I was using it on a 1/4 drive air ratchet and it didn't take too long before the square sheered off.

I don't think the Beta or the Stahlwille have solid square drives so they will be prone to sheering off if not used with care.

Thank you for this! These are much more affordable than the European options. Sadly I'm still looking for a place to offer reasonable shipping on these, everywhere I've found is asking more for shipping than the set of two.

 

[Ralf99]

Thank you for this! These are much more affordable than the European options. Sadly I'm still looking for a place to offer reasonable shipping on these, everywhere I've found is asking more for shipping than the set of two.

I have the KTC versions that I bought online from a seller on Rakuten Japan - unfortunately I don't remember which one.

As luck would have it I picked up an Endeavour Tools catalogue from Just Tools in South Melbourne yesterday and this caught my eye..



Not sure of the brand, but the page heading referred to "made in Japan".
Endeavour Tools supply to most of the higher end tool shops throughout Australia.

 

[Ralf99]

Oh, Teng Tools do a version also, and these pop up on Ebay Oz from time to time.

 

[hautpot]

I might have a REALLY good opportunity to go to the middle of Taiwan (where apparently all the manufacturing takes place) and tour some factorys that I was told export 90% of the products to the USA. But they are gonna be crappier tools such as Kobalt, Pittsburg, and Husky so I am not very interested

. Still no Toptul connections yet (T_T)

I love the Keiba pliers I bought!

 

[hautpot]

Discovered one of many interesting items today, first of which is this NWS 1092-62-225 CombiBolt pliers:

Fresh air!

What caught my attention was how different the pliers are from the stock photo: (image source: german-hand-tools)

Notice the serrations and crimper clearly highlighted. They are unlike anything I have seen.... except from Irwin

So in summary, did NWS recently update this particular pliers?

And here is the line-up so far! I am very happy I found these and the most jealousy-inducing part is that I paid about $16 USD (€15). Now I also spotted some VBW combination pliers at another shop for cheap... hmmm....

Next up will be a something for you PB Swiss fanatics....

 

[pozidriv]

Thanks a lot for all the pictures Hautpot, I'm sure many here are just speechless.
You have reached tool nirwana. Taiwan just became an interesting travel destination
Besides the great tool situation, what's it like in Taiwan?

Looking forward to the PB stuff!

 

[HCNDM]

You know you can get 380v easy , costs 250 or something and no extra costs for delivery for 3x25A , I have 380v in the house also



Then you can get the 380v from bauhaus

There would be quite a bit of extra wiring in the house to add. The biggest problem is I'd never get a large shop on my property which could fit a car and as such projects requirements automatically get limited.

Total costs to do 380 came to about 450 euro. The added benefit doesn't warrant the use and cost.

I roll a hose onto the driveway for winter tire changes etc.

So a midsize 100l vertical compressor is the max for now @220v [emoji22] As much as I hate that it's reality.

New shed design will pay a role too. Currently pushing my luck trying to squeeze the max out of the zoning code.



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[hautpot]

I was told by the owner that this shop has been in business almost 40 years! I wish you guys could FATHOM how much PB Swiss this guy was hoarding! Imagine virtually everything from the last three to four decades of PB Swiss (and the former Baumann) sitting on under one roof. It even looks as if there are unopened retail boxes of the tools laying around the shop and in the storage cabinets. I know I sound like a broken record player, but I would never expect a country known for inexpensive tools to have sooooo many interesting tool stores filled with top tier tools.

Unfortunately unlike the nice clean air-conditioned Factory Gear, a lot of stuff in here is being destroyed by the humidity and you can tell the age by how much dust is on here.


(sorry about the picture quality guys, this is a really popular shop in the heart of the biggest city in Taiwan and lots of people walking in and out)

Another section of screwdrivers in another part of the store.

The torque tools, once again PB Swiss and some Asian made ones.

OMG they have Nobar and Beta torque wrenches!

Files with Bahco blades.

Lots of hammers! this time the Japanese hammers outweigh the Swiss.

Interesting to see Proxxon here:

Cool German stamps here:

What I bought (Keiba cutters were from Factory Gear):

BONUS: Witte at an another electrical store down the road!

About $15 USD (€14 EUR) for the Witte set.... hmmm maybe I should buy it? another set is behind it but no pictures.

 

[hautpot]

Thanks a lot for all the pictures Hautpot, I'm sure many here are just speechless.
You have reached tool nirwana. Taiwan just became an interesting travel destination
Besides the great tool situation, what's it like in Taiwan?

Looking forward to the PB stuff!

Thanks Pozidriv!

Well besides the constant 80% plus humidity (rusting your tools, house, autos) and the fact I can't read Chinese, it is a great vacation so far.

It is kinda getting overwhelming trying to keep track of how many new tool manufacturers I have seen in two weeks. Just when you think you seen them all, you see Boss Powertools (Bosch copycat) or the hundreds of Knipex copycats.

 

[HCNDM]

On another note,

Do you know if Festool produces sanders for another brand as OEM so I could get the ETS 150/5 EQ at a better price.

Is ther another sander with similar qualities to the Festool above I should consider?

Have a good day,

PS photos will come a bit later

I use my fein 350q these days. Its a little ****** than the festool but then it's more tools in one as well. It does as well as my fils festool imo.

Both sand equally well and are low on vibration.

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[JAKE-THE-TOOL-MAN]

I can't wait to move to Japan in a few months, it's going to be a tool frenzy!

 

[hautpot]

The VBW I picked up for $18 USD (16 EUR)

Hey look! It is Monte's avatar picture!

So nice

And these Anex stubby bits were acquired for $6 USD (5 EUR):

 

[dutchgray]

Think I would be coming home with a suitcase full of PB Swiss if I ever went to that shop.
Were those red file handles the PB Swiss ones?

 

[Monte]

Hi Monte,
Excellent idea! Even the 50l is less than half of what they are here.

...or maybe simply buy a horizontal and remove the pump/motor unit so you can store the parts where you have space...

On another note,
Do you know if Festool produces sanders for another brand as OEM so I could get the ETS 150/5 EQ at a better price.
Is ther another sander with similar qualities to the Festool above I should consider?

I´m not aware that they do OEM stuff.... but you could check out Rupes www.rupes.it

Hey look! It is Monte's avatar picture!

btw. Thanks again for these great pictures !!!















Kranzle Round Cleaner "UFO"

before

during

after

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Think I would be coming home with a suitcase full of PB Swiss if I ever went to that shop.

Y'know we can get them here, right?

http://www.pbswisstools.co.uk/

 

[dutchgray]

Y'know we can get them here, right?

http://www.pbswisstools.co.uk/

Yeah but its not the same buying on line than getting in a shop full of lovely stuff.
I have a small amount of PB currently.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Yeah but its not the same buying on line than getting in a shop full of lovely stuff.
I have a small amount of PB currently.

Yeah i know. I have a bunch i bought from an awesome tool store in Zermatt in Switzerland, they have racks of PB stuff on display, it's amazing.

 

[Superbec]

I hate to brake it to you guys....

I got my PBswiss (most expensive hammer in the world) dirty yesterday... I also left it like that overnight.... today I felt ashamed and wiped it with some brake cleaner..

also... there's a few striking marks on the metal side, didn't use the plastic side yet



(do you think the brake cleaner will hurt the wood???)

 

[north]

For shame Superbec, for shame... No seat for you at the Tool Polishers Guild table...

 

[superautobacs]

Plenty of beatings my PB Swiss deadblows has received/given in 5/6 years of use. I don't think I've ever cleaned them. I have replacement heads for both, but I don't forsee the need to change them any time soon!

 

[bike_freak]

Oh, Teng Tools do a version also, and these pop up on Ebay Oz from time to time.

Awesome! Will check these options out.

 

[decaf]

I really like this one, it works fantastic.
I like the state: " FOR USE BY COMPETENT PERSONS ONLY ".

 

[Laro13]

@Hautpot : Please!!!, no more photos. It's too much toolporn.

I'm looking for a 1/2 ratchet. I like my Bahco 3/8 ratchet(snap on 80T inside) and was thinking to also buy the Bahco 1/2 version(SB8150). But they are getting hard to find and the price went up(€65-70).

Now I'm also looking at Hazet ratchets.

- Does a 1/2 ratchet really needs a lot of teeth?
- Maybe a longer handle?
- A flexhead looks handy?

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks, Jasper

I found a good deal on the Hazet 916-1 ,€15/$17 cheaper then the Bahco.
So I went for the Hazet.



It feels nice, but the head is massive compared to a normal 1/2 ratchet head.



cheers, Jasper

 

[HCNDM]

@Hautpot : Please!!!, no more photos. It's too much toolporn.





I found a good deal on the Hazet 916-1 ,€15/$17 cheaper then the Bahco.
So I went for the Hazet.



It feels nice, but the head is massive compared to a normal 1/2 ratchet head.



cheers, Jasper

massive and probably indestructible... which is nice on a half.... the only reason i grab my 1/2 in the first place is if its big and needs a beating...