Tools from the old world

[losvre]

Hi Superbec

The work send me two day trip to Dillingen Germany, not the best place to be although nice country side.

I will be in Netherlands for 4-5 days tour and 4 days in Belgium border with Aachen and Maastricht[emoji106]

Any shops that have good price in Netherlands? As far as I have seen are quite pricey especially on power tools.



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Yeah a second hand would be also ok, possibly a Fronius[emoji12].

I have only weld with stick machines and not that great welder I shall admit.
Not sure what I would weld with the mig[emoji1]

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[losvre]

I have a telwin inverter with similar rating and duty cycle that was a bit cheaper. It has a really nice arc. That said I have been grabbing the Chinese tig more and more lately.

This one from this store:

https://www.hbm-machines.com/produc...en/telwin-inverters/telwin-force-195-inverter


(Wrote cebora earlier maybe I had superbecs post in mind). The cebora migs are awesome. I leant to weld mig on one.

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That looks like a toy, joking[emoji1], I would consider it though.

What is the coo?

What are the best brands in stick and mig-mag?

Ein copie coffee in Netherlands?

Tot ziens

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[HCNDM]

Hi Superbec

The work send me two day trip to Dillingen Germany, not the best place to be although nice country side.

I will be in Netherlands for 4-5 days tour and 4 days in Belgium border with Aachen and Maastricht[emoji106]

Any shops that have good price in Netherlands? As far as I have seen are quite pricey especially on power tools.



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Tbs is in aachen. Go germany. Financially much better!


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[Superbec]

Yeah a second hand would be also ok, possibly a Fronius[emoji12].

I have only weld with stick machines and not that great welder I shall admit.
Not sure what I would weld with the mig[emoji1]

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Mig is much easier, I trained monkeys in about 2 days to stick parts together, takes a bit longer to master all positions and tricks but much easier than stick anyway.

If you're around Aachen (i'm 16km away )you can stop by and I'll give you a short lesson in mig-mag(theory) and tig , cause my co2 regulator grew legs ..

best shop around by far is TBS-aachen ,

 

[HCNDM]

That looks like a toy, joking[emoji1], I would consider it though.

What is the coo?

What are the best brands in stick and mig-mag?

Ein copie coffee in Netherlands?

Tot ziens

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It is tiny which is why I got it! But it works. Telwin is assembled in Italy. That said the inverter board might be Far East.

Tbs sells the gysmi 160 for 249 eur which I believe is made in Germany. Same size and have heard good things about gysmi.


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[Superbec]

It is tiny which is why I got it! But it works. Telwin is assembled in Italy. That said the inverter board might be Far East.

Tbs sells the gysmi 160 for 249 eur which I believe is made in Germany. Same size and have heard good things about gysmi.


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That would be Gys , it's a french company , they still make some stuff in France but I guess it's 99% China, for anything else I guess that's ok but a welding machine is not the case, even if it works for a while .. do you trust it?

Welding machines (good ones) are built so tough that for a home user even a second hand one will last a lifetime.

 

[Monte]

Thanks! It looks like the Wiha plastic heads might be held in place more securely than the Halder Simplex heads.

might be possible

Better choice ?

Carolus or Gedore

Yesterday i got a new toolcabinet that im about to fill up...

wow

So, does this mean that the Gesenkschmiede in Breckerfeld has gone silent?

i think they forge in India now.

My dad has burned the 2-3 sanders so I thought I would invest in some better quality one from Festool.

Good choice It´s on my wishlist for a long time... (and the ETS 125)
How is the vibration level ?

Yeah I inquired about these bits last year, but they are very mysterious. Hopefully Monte-guru can solve this case. Perhaps they went outta business?

Never saw this brand offline anywhere....but the bit holders look taiwanese to me.

Found it! Gross Pliers.

nice design ! First i thought you meant Lux pliers:

Who's making the best quality circular saw

Festool and Mafell.
Next question please

And since I am here, what do you think about Lorch Welding machines?

Can´t go wrong with Lorch, Rehm, EWM or Fronius.















Went to the tool store and all i got was this lousy fly flap

 

[losvre]

might be possible

Carolus or Gedore


PBswiss or Lixie?

Good choice It´s on my wishlist for a long time... (and the ETS 125)
How is the vibration level ?

Did not use much yet, after summer I get it to its pace and get back to you. I did test it though and it is less that the Bosch I have been using. That is when you actually on the working surface. When you hold it in the air, due to 5 mm movement, it looks like it wants to walk away

Can´t go wrong with Lorch, Rehm, EWM or Fronius.















Went to the tool store and all i got was this lousy fly flap

Anything is good as long as it is made in old good world

 

[losvre]

Dilemma, which of the two below is better/ reliable? I thought the Facom 501 is more versatile but not sure if has any issues due to moving jaws.

Thanks



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[Vinko]

What are you looking for in a circular saw? To crosscut? Rip? A little of both?

I'm pretty much set on picking up a Mafell KSS 40. Cutting depth isn't huge, but for 99% of what I'll do, it do quite well. It's built for crosscutting, but will do any other tracksaw work w/ the flex rail (not cabinet saw grade cuts, but pretty good nonetheless). Also they use the Metabo battery system, which gets you a pretty good breadth of tools.

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You can import them w/o batteries for $600 + shipping last I checked since the Euro bombed, and no dealing w/ voltage differences since the platforms are the same internationally.

Rice: this is great info (as usual), thanks. I'll check this out. A little of both -- just general work is what I need this for. I have a very, very heavy US-made Skil saw. It's fine with guides (from Rockler) for ripping. I use a Ridgid chop saw that's pretty good too (surprised how accurate and good it is).

But I'd love a cordless high quality saw for the shop -- just for general fab work.

Might consider this. Unless anyone know if there's a good Metabo option (or Bosch) out in the US as well.

SO the Mafell takes the Metabo batteries? Which ones? And any suggestions where to purchase overseas/online? You're right, the USD is strong, might as well.

 

[Vinko]

I also think that Mafell is best for circular saw. Not sure for the specific model.

Festool is better for Sanders that is I got one.

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Thanks. Not doing a heck of a lot of sander work but enough. I had used the Porter Cable (Model No. 333 I think). Now I have a larger and smaller Metabo and use Mirka sanding pads. Good stuff. I also have a Fein Multicaster, delta-type sander that works OK for what I need.

 

[losvre]

Thanks. Not doing a heck of a lot of sander work but enough. I had used the Porter Cable (Model No. 333 I think). Now I have a larger and smaller Metabo and use Mirka sanding pads. Good stuff. I also have a Fein Multicaster, delta-type sander that works OK for what I need.

I think any decent brand would be a good sander. I bought the Festool because I only wanted one to do both rough and fine sanding and the price was not much from the Metabo, ok little bit[emoji3].

My cousin is a carpenter and has used most Sanders, except Mirka, and the only one that still has is the Festool. We are talking for random orbital electric ones. For traditional palm/ square orbital I think Rules might be better.

Also in my case I wanted a very reliable one to sent it to my dad who lives on a quite remote area and is difficult to source parts, repair, exchange etc.

Depending on individual needs there are a lot of brands that will do the job.

Thanks. Not doing a heck of a lot of sander work but enough. I had used the Porter Cable (Model No. 333 I think). Now I have a larger and smaller Metabo and use Mirka sanding pads. Good stuff. I also have a Fein Multicaster, delta-type sander that works OK for what I need.

I think any decent brand would be a good sander. I bought the Festool because I only wanted one to do both rough and fine sanding and the price was not much from the Metabo, ok little bit[emoji3].

My cousin is a carpenter and has used most Sanders, except Mirka, and the only one that still has is the Festool. We are talking for orbital electric ones. For traditional

Also in my case I wanted a very reliable one to sent it to my dad that he lives on a quite remote area and is difficult to source parts, repair, exchange etc.

Depending on individual needs there are a lot of brands that will do the job.

Thanks. Not doing a heck of a lot of sander work but enough. I had used the Porter Cable (Model No. 333 I think). Now I have a larger and smaller Metabo and use Mirka sanding pads. Good stuff. I also have a Fein Multicaster, delta-type sander that works OK for what I need.

I think any decent brand would be a good sander. I bought the Festool because I only wanted one to do both rough and fine sanding and the price was not much from the Metabo, ok little bit[emoji3].

My cousin is a carpenter and has used most Sanders, except Mirka, and the only one that still has is the Festool. We are talking for orbital electric ones. For traditional

Also in my case I wanted a very reliable one to sent it to my dad that he lives on a quite remote area and is difficult to source parts, repair, exchange etc.

Depending on individual needs there are a lot of brands that will do the job.

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[Monte]

Anything is good as long as it is made in old good world

That´s right !

SO the Mafell takes the Metabo batteries? Which ones?

You can use the Metabo 18 volt Li-Ion batteries
















Stihl FSA 56 cordless 36 volt grass trimmer from their new "Compact" cordless tool system for home owners.

set comes with a charger, one battery and a pair of safety glasses.

coo tool

coo battery

coo charger

 

[ultgar]

Dilemma, which of the two below is better/ reliable? I thought the Facom 501 is more versatile but not sure if has any issues due to moving jaws.

Thanks

Facom has discontinued the T5 series.....I posted this in my Facom newsletter...

5/31/16 - "Facom Classic" - T5 Trigger Release Locking Pliers - introduced in 1996, the T5 was advertised as the "ultimate" in Lock-Grip tools. This was quite a statement considering Facom's excellent 500 Series locking pliers that had been around since the 70's.

In 2015, Facom consolidated and improved their classic 500 series lock-grip pliers, now called the 500A series. The T5 series (in all sizes & finishes) were discontinued and replaced by the new single setting 501AMP.

 

[racingtadpole]

Mildly disappointed to find out that some, not all, of the Metabo 18V LI bundle I bought recently to replace my aging Dewalt are made in Korea or China.

https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordle...bo-kit-with-bonus-mitre-saw-bl13megakit4.html

 

[Monte]

Mildly disappointed to find out that some, not all, of the Metabo 18V LI bundle I bought recently to replace my aging Dewalt are made in Korea or China.

https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordle...bo-kit-with-bonus-mitre-saw-bl13megakit4.html

drill/driver and angle grinder should be from germany ? no ? Better than nothing And the Koreans make good products like Kia and Hyundai ...and impact wrenches....
Do you have some pics of that set ?

 

[losvre]

Mildly disappointed to find out that some, not all, of the Metabo 18V LI bundle I bought recently to replace my aging Dewalt are made in Korea or China.

https://adelaidetools.com.au/cordle...bo-kit-with-bonus-mitre-saw-bl13megakit4.html

Since I discovered GJ I always enquire the coo of the tools, if not cited on the description, and then I buy. If it was me I would return them back.

I am sure that they are also good items but also absolute sure that Metabo has drill drivers made both in Germany and in China.I just insist on the "original ones".

I have bought two in the last 3 years in UK, both made in Germany. Most shops don't really care about the coo but I send emails to companies stating the reason I and my friends in GJ buy from them is because they still make them in Germany, US, etc.

 

[Monte]

Since I discovered GJ I always enquire the coo of the tools, if not cited on the description, and then I buy. If it was me I would return them back.

It will be a expensive battery tool set with several battery systems if you only want to buy german tools...










Takagi water gun

 

[racingtadpole]

drill/driver and angle grinder should be from germany ? no ? Better than nothing And the Koreans make good products like Kia and Hyundai ...and impact wrenches....
Do you have some pics of that set ?

Hyundai is OK. Kia, not so much..
I'll take some pictures for you when I get a moment later today.

 

[Monte]

I'll take some pictures for you when I get a moment later today.

That would be great !















Wolf Garten rake

 

[sandman54]

Good morning all, i have 2 Leinens and 1 Boley all 150 mm they are great! also have several Heuer drp vises. have a nice day

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

He guys,

does somebody know where I can get Heyco ratchets in Germany?
I have not found an online retailer yet.

I am especially interested in 3/8" 40-00-7 and 1/2" 50-00-7 ratchets.

http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/dutch-79/media/Tools/Hand/IMG_7543_zps12d8f472.jpg.html
http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/dutch-79/media/Tools/Hand/IMG_7542_zpsa352d1b5.jpg.html

(pics taken from an old post #19538 of dutch79 in this thread)

 

[jessysirazvan]

Wiha microfinish 8.0x150 made in germany
IMO the best and beautiful screwdriver in the world

Mitutoyo caliper,High accuracy model,accuracy 0.03mm :: Of course Made in Japan

 

[Superbec]

Wiha microfinish 8.0x150 made in germany
IMO the best and beautiful screwdriver in the world

that would be PBswiss

 

[sqaurelizard]

Dilemma, which of the two below is better/ reliable? I thought the Facom 501 is more versatile but not sure if has any issues due to moving jaws.

Thanks



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I have the left upper one and really not a fan doesn't lock if I am not totally square on the pieces to be gripped or if you have the adjust too tight

 

[jessysirazvan]

that would be PBswiss

Wiha and Pbswiss is like Bmw and Mercedes Benz

 

[nanofrog]

that would be PBswiss

I've both, and absolutely agree with this.

Where Wiha takes 1st place IME, is with their precision screwdrivers (small stuff), as their selection dwarfs PB Swiss.

 

[Superbec]

I have screwdriver sets from..... Wiha,Wera,Stahlwille,Hazet,FACOM,VESSEL,Toptul,Sonic,BGS, and probably I forgot a few, nothing compares to PBsw, NOTHING !!!

 

[HCNDM]

I have screwdriver sets from..... Wiha,Wera,Stahlwille,Hazet,FACOM,VESSEL,Toptul,Sonic,BGS, and probably I forgot a few, nothing compares to PBsw, NOTHING !!!

I second this but still have great love for my Wera, Wiha, Bahco, Facom drivers as well. In no particular order.

I find each has a place as well. I gravitate towards the wera kraforms with laser cut heads for older abused wood screws.

For the car somehow I always end up holding a PB or Wiha.

 

[Superbec]

sure, I'm just teasing him

 

[ttpete]

How about this Wiha set? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JQ753W8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Superbec]

How about this Wiha set? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JQ753W8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

you work on phones or other electronics? sizes are on the micro side...

maybe something like this is more versatile.

I have a wera set simmilar but without the sockets , I really like it, and the rachet is so tiny and cute...

 

[losvre]

I have screwdriver sets from..... Wiha,Wera,Stahlwille,Hazet,FACOM,VESSEL,Toptul,Sonic,BGS, and probably I forgot a few, nothing compares to PBsw, NOTHING !!! [emoji38]_hitti

Hi Superbec and all,

How often someone needs tamper proof torx, you know, the hollow ones.

I want to buy a few PBSwiss but I think they are not hollow like the Stahwille 3K Drall.

Please advise
Thanks



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[ttpete]

you work on phones or other electronics? sizes are on the micro side...

maybe something like this is more versatile.

I have a wera set simmilar but without the sockets , I really like it, and the rachet is so tiny and cute...

I have occasional uses for small drivers working with computers, installing watch batteries, and fixing eyeglasses. It's a bit difficult to find decent 000 phillips bits in particular. I get my straight slot screwdriver bits from a gunsmith supply company here in the US. They carry the very best 1/4 hex bits in many widths and thicknesses.

 

[Lofthouse]

Hi Superbec and all,

How often someone needs tamper proof torx, you know, the hollow ones.

I want to buy a few PBSwiss but I think they are not hollow like the Stahwille 3K Drall.

Please advise
Thanks

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PB 8400 for Torx
PB 8400 B for Torx Tamperproof (with hole)

 

[sljeme345]

New vise Ridgid Peddinghaus Matador / Superior 100

 

[losvre]

PB 8400 for Torx
PB 8400 B for Torx Tamperproof (with hole)

Not sure how I missed that, problem solved

Thanks!

 

[losvre]

New vise Ridgid Peddinghaus Matador / Superior 100

It looks strong! Wonder If someone could use it as small anvil.

Is the coo written in the vice itself or on the paperwork?

Thanks

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[losvre]

I have occasional uses for small drivers working with computers, installing watch batteries, and fixing eyeglasses. It's a bit difficult to find decent 000 phillips bits in particular. I get my straight slot screwdriver bits from a gunsmith supply company here in the US. They carry the very best 1/4 hex bits in many widths and thicknesses.

Who/ where is your supplier.

I am sure he wouldn't mind the GJ members as clients[emoji3]

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[HCNDM]

Hi Superbec and all,

How often someone needs tamper proof torx, you know, the hollow ones.

I want to buy a few PBSwiss but I think they are not hollow like the Stahwille 3K Drall.

Please advise
Thanks



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I have some electronics with a small tamper proof torx. Other than that The only place I ran into them in the last few years is the bolts on my seat belt brackets in the car.

Used to have some on my Kawasaki.

So I guess I am saying I dont need or use them very often. Push comes to shove there are ways to get them out and replace them with something more common