Tools from the old world
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chrissalas1
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bulletpruf
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Went to a market in Skopje, Macedonia today. Most of the sellers were gypsies. Lot of junk, but a few decent pieces here and there. I was just picking up DOE's here and there; speed picking since I didn't have time to screw around. Had a meeting to go to and I was there in a suit and tie; definitely sticking out like a sore thumb.
Anyway, I just picked up whatever struck my fancy - here are all of them.
The smaller ones from top to bottom - Matador 32mm/27 mm - no COO listed but should be Germany; Dowidat #6 23/21, Germany; Wagener 23/21, W. Germany; Orodje Zrece 23/21 - no COO listed but should be Slovenia; WFR 22/20, DDR (East Germany).
The bigger ones, from larger to smaller -
Belzer CU-BE (copper-beryllium) No. C 900, 46/41, Germany (looks like a similar wrench would sell for about $200 new); Eagle Brand 7/8 W, 1 BSF and 3/4 W and 7/8 BSF (Whitworth bolt wrench; larger size is the head size; smaller size is the size of the bolt shank) made in England and super thick/stout; Tang 27/24, No. 101, made in Yugoslavia; Walter 30/32, No. 39 DIN 839, Germany.
Anyone have any more details on these? The Belzer and Eagle Brand DOE's are the oddest ones of the bunch.
Let me know if anyone wants closeups of anything.
Wrenches were about $1 each, except for the Belzer and Eagle Brand.
Scott
Anyway, I just picked up whatever struck my fancy - here are all of them.
The smaller ones from top to bottom - Matador 32mm/27 mm - no COO listed but should be Germany; Dowidat #6 23/21, Germany; Wagener 23/21, W. Germany; Orodje Zrece 23/21 - no COO listed but should be Slovenia; WFR 22/20, DDR (East Germany).
The bigger ones, from larger to smaller -
Belzer CU-BE (copper-beryllium) No. C 900, 46/41, Germany (looks like a similar wrench would sell for about $200 new); Eagle Brand 7/8 W, 1 BSF and 3/4 W and 7/8 BSF (Whitworth bolt wrench; larger size is the head size; smaller size is the size of the bolt shank) made in England and super thick/stout; Tang 27/24, No. 101, made in Yugoslavia; Walter 30/32, No. 39 DIN 839, Germany.
Anyone have any more details on these? The Belzer and Eagle Brand DOE's are the oddest ones of the bunch.
Let me know if anyone wants closeups of anything.
Wrenches were about $1 each, except for the Belzer and Eagle Brand.
Scott
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chrissalas1
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Here in Macedonia we do not have a city named Skopje.We have cities named Thessaloniki,Serres,Polygyros,Went to a market in Skopje, Macedonia today. Most of the sellers were gypsies. Lot of junk, but a few decent pieces here and there. I was just picking up DOE's here and there; speed picking since I didn't have time to screw around. Had a meeting to go to and I was there in a suit and tie; definitely sticking out like a sore thumb.
Anyway, I just picked up whatever struck my fancy - here are all of them.
The smaller ones from top to bottom - Matador 32mm/27 mm - no COO listed but should be Germany; Dowidat #6 23/21, Germany; Wagener 23/21, W. Germany; Orodje Zrece 23/21 - no COO listed but should be Slovenia; WFR 22/20, DDR (East Germany).
The bigger ones, from larger to smaller -
Belzer CU-BE (copper-beryllium) No. C 900, 46/41, Germany (looks like a similar wrench would sell for about $200 new); Eagle Brand 7/8 W, 1 BSF and 3/4 W and 7/8 BSF (Whitworth bolt wrench; larger size is the head size; smaller size is the size of the bolt shank) made in England and super thick/stout; Tang 27/24, No. 101, made in Yugoslavia; Walter 30/32, No. 39 DIN 839, Germany.
Anyone have any more details on these? The Belzer and Eagle Brand DOE's are the oddest ones of the bunch.
Let me know if anyone wants closeups of anything.
Wrenches were about $1 each, except for the Belzer and Eagle Brand.
Scott
Katerini etc.....
It is other place the Macedonia and other the Fyrom
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Superbec
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So what's the point of buying all that junk? I bet you have better wrenches , even doubles ... and how many times do you actually use an open end?
that eagle is opened like a stripper's legs ...
bulletpruf
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Junk? These are quality wrenches that have lasted decades and will last for decades more. Does it bother you that they're not a matched set? Or that they'e not all shiny and clean? I think I'm all out of tool polish, so they're going to stay that way.
And yes, I do have nice DBE's, deep offset DBE's, DOE's, stubby DOE's, etc. But the work that I do sometimes requires modifying wrenches to work (bending, grinding, etc), and I'd rather do it with one of my spares than one from a matched set.
Superbec
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Nothing bothers me, it's your money .
Call it what you want, I know hoarding when I see it..
If you don't actually need it you have 0 reason to buy it .
No, some future "need" for some project it's not actual need.
I don't care for chrome , I care for usefulness and some singles crow-footed and beat up wrenches are not exactly useful ...maybe for a blacksmith
Miskin
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We buy tools when we don't need them, because if we buy when we need them, we pay more. 
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What country/countries are Blaklader pants made in ?
The Muffin Man
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Hello everyone!
Its been a long time since I was last hanging around with ya'll... Nice to see some familiar faces! Anyways here is some Imported eye candy
Its been a long time since I was last hanging around with ya'll... Nice to see some familiar faces! Anyways here is some Imported eye candy
The Muffin Man
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Thanks!
I very much like Felo's screwdrivers. They are right up there with Wera, Facom, Snap-on. The "ergo" series is very comfortable. I wish I could have the felo handles on all my ratchets, that would be amazing.
Here is some more pictures of my Felo screwdrivers.
I'm a little bit bananas when it comes to screwdrivers, here is only some of my screwdriver sets...
Wow man, these are a lot of screwdrivers.
Very nice and very pricey!
Are you working on cars or other equipment? I was wondering because I work on my car and the bike and a coupl of sets cover all the work.
Have a Good day
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Very nice and very pricey!
Are you working on cars or other equipment? I was wondering because I work on my car and the bike and a coupl of sets cover all the work.
Have a Good day
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The Muffin Man
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Thank you! As far as hobbies go... I work on dirtbikes, motorcycles, and some automotive work. Professionally I work on electronics, server mainframes and computers. hence why I have a screwdriver compulsion; Its the main tool I utilize. I find that screws and other fasteners of this type are sometimes out of tolerance compared to specs so one brand of screwdrivers might fit better than another and vice vera. Screwdrivers are often price wise cheaper to collect/accumulate compared to other tools so that also probably why I have so many sets
.Some more Felo pics!!!!
Dave455
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Eagle Brand 7/8 W, 1 BSF and 3/4 W and 7/8 BSF (Whitworth bolt wrench; larger size is the head size; smaller size is the size of the bolt shank) made in England and super thick/stout;
Anyone have any more details on these? The Belzer and Eagle Brand DOE's are the oddest ones of the bunch.
Actually, British Standard Whitworth and British Standard Fine are different thread pitches. For a given size of bolt, the BSF use a smaller bolt head than the Whitworth! The markings mean that the big end of your wrench will fit a bolt of 7/8 Whitworth or 1 inch BSF - in either case that's the bolt size not the head size!
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Thanks.
Have you put Garant/PB Swiss handles on your clamps?
user.nr.1
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Hoffmann Garant Moment Clamps
https://www.hoffmann-group.com/DE/de/hom/Hand--und-Montagewerkzeuge/Zwingen/Moment-Schraubzwinge/p/860050
https://www.hoffmann-group.com/DE/de/hom/Hand--und-Montagewerkzeuge/Zwingen/Moment-Schraubzwinge/p/860050
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They make them like that:
Metabo tools in new colors:
http://www.weilspasst.de/files/ROB0469_Herbstaktion_folder_ohne_Preise_low.pdf
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Cool little saw.
Knipex 12 11 180 and Hazet with no COO.
Knipex 12 11 180 and Hazet with no COO.
Hello again,Thank you! As far as hobbies go... I work on dirtbikes, motorcycles, and some automotive work. Professionally I work on electronics, server mainframes and computers. hence why I have a screwdriver compulsion; Its the main tool I utilize. I find that screws and other fasteners of this type are sometimes out of tolerance compared to specs so one brand of screwdrivers might fit better than another and vice vera. Screwdrivers are often price wise cheaper to collect/accumulate compared to other tools so that also probably why I have so many sets
Some more Felo pics!!!!
You really have lots of drivers!
Not sure if you have had experience with that kind of screwdriver below but what is your opinion about them?
Is it worth to have a ratcheting one?
Are these kind of Bit holders usable with changing the bits, sturdy etc.
Thanks
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Attachments
Hazet news:
http://www.hazet.de/fileadmin/bilddaten/pdf/SWW_2016_2017_DE.pdf
new Hazet brushless impact:
(almost looks like Dewalt batteries)
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new Hazet tool cart:
http://www.hazet.de/fileadmin/bilddaten/pdf/SWW_2016_2017_DE.pdf
new Hazet brushless impact:
(almost looks like Dewalt batteries
)<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/852KpZHprb8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
new Hazet tool cart:
Cybermike
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Who has some experience with Montex File Grips? There made in Italy but there is very little information to find. The handle has threads so you can 'screw' it on the file. I am curious how this works.
http://www.delftechniek.nl/montex
http://www.delftechniek.nl/montex
HCNDM
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Who has some experience with Montex File Grips? There made in Italy but there is very little information to find. The handle has threads so you can 'screw' it on the file. I am curious how this works.
http://www.delftechniek.nl/montex
I have Some of the brown ones. They hold sturdy.
The threads collapse on the harder file steel making for a tight grip.
As too how it works...
Stick your file in a vise (tang side up) (wrap it in an old T-shirt to protect your vise.
Stick the handle on the tang and rotate. It will screw itself on like a re-threader.
Two minutes per file.
These should be reusable but that's not something I tried.
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Dave455
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Who has some experience with Montex File Grips? There made in Italy but there is very little information to find. The handle has threads so you can 'screw' it on the file. I am curious how this works.
http://www.delftechniek.nl/montex
The same handles, albeit in red, used to be sold by Simmonds!
I found they worked o.k. but nothing special. About 1 in 4 times the thing would still wobble, and probably more often if you re use the handle!
If you have decent files I like the PB Swiss handles the best, and if you replace a file with an identical one they can be re used fine!
To be honest, having done a lot of filing over the years (including some jobs that probably should have been done on a mill) you can't beat buying files with factory fitted handles!
Precivilization
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^^ +1
dutchgray
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Especially if they are Bahco Ergo handled files, those are nice, my files range from any old handle, traditional round wood ones to a few of the PB ones.
HCNDM
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Same here. OP asked about those handles so I answered but the reality is I have a huge mix of files and handles.
I prefer not doing my handles but high grade very fine files which I use for my precious metal smithing are never provided with a handle for some reason.
Some of those I have plastic handles on like above. Most have a wooden handle.
For steel and knife making I always grab a bahcos. Probably also because they are cheap and easy to get.
Will try to get some pics of my files. A great many are rescued from garage sales and flea markets and are old school made in Europe.
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Those Athlets are cool looking.
news from Fein:
new accessoires for their 12 volt drill: carbide jaw chuck, tap holder, bit holder, socket holder and a set which includes everything.
Thanks for the info Monte,
This one looks like the Metabo quick, is it?
Cheers