Tools from the old world

[losvre]

It seems that finally someone found out how to make Locking Pliers jaw!

Jaw HRC = 63 [emoji106]

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On paper, at least [emoji16]

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[Hybert]

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I bet you had to turn the old wallet inside out if you bought those Gedores in Norway. Do you have the regular 7 wrenches as well? What do you think of Gedore wrenches? I only have a couple of old Rotband hammers and an even older adjustable from Gedore..

I'm about to order a new set of wrenches as my current set is all a mix match of different things with a couple of sizes missing. Currently stuck on Hazet 600N..

The 7XL set is normally my go to set of spanners. If I for some reason can't fit them, like I need a shorter spanner or a thinnier jaw design I have a set of normal length spanners from Teng Tools, but my father also has a set of some old Hazet 600N laying in the shed that I use from time to time. I don't have anything to say on either of the sets, great quality, all three of them.
But I would like a set of normal length Gedore 1B or No.7 just to have it Gedore.

 

[Dave455]

Any of you guys more familiar with koken sockets and ratchets? I mainly use stahlwille and hazet but they dont offer so shallow sockets and ratchets than koken(as far as i know). How do they level up with hazet or stahlwille in long term use? I'm looking a 3/8 ratchet with extra shallow sockets and by quick looking around koken pop up first. Is there any german manufacturer that makes as shallow or close to koken? I prefer the satin finish and the koken all shiny chrome makes me wonder how slippery/hard the sockets will be taking of from the non qr ratchet...

Some new arrivals:
Hazet spurk plug socket
Stahlwille 3054 inhex sockets(used from ebay, very nice condition)

I've got a fair amount of KoKen.

It's decent stuff, in fact really decent stuff!

Probably not quite the quality of Snap On, but probably 90% of the quality for about 40% of the price (in the U.K.)

The finish isn't quite as durable as say Snap On as I reckon it picks up scratches a little easier, but other than that the finish is durable.

Quality is probably on a par with the German tools. There are some things that Stahlwille or Hazet do better, (Don't think anybody makes better hex / torx bits than Hazet, for example, and KoKen don't offer any wrenches) but doubt you will have any regrets about any KoKen purchase.

Quality is always very consistent , and the more specialised tools are superb - they offer many unique items not available elsewhere, and nothing seems to be a gimmick - everything works!

A lot of folks here in the U.K. bought some KoKen because of the range of Whitworth they offer, but found it so good they ended up buying a lot more!

 

[Precivilization]

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[losvre]

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Top stuff once more

Where the vessel T wrench and sockets are made in? I would like to also get these.

Thank you

 

[Precivilization]

Top stuff once more

Where the vessel T wrench and sockets are made in? I would like to also get these.

Thank you

It is made in Japan. Not sure how much shipping is going to cost from where I'm at, but if you are willing to pay for it, it's yours.

 

[dutchgray]

It does say made in Japan on the package
Im sure it could be got via Rakuten. I would like that T handle also.
Just checked on ebay and yoy can get on in the UK from a Japanese seller for £17 something.

 

[Precivilization]

It does say made in Japan on the package
Im sure it could be got via Rakuten. I would like that T handle also.
Just checked on ebay and yoy can get on in the UK from a Japanese seller for £17 something.

That is pretty accurate

 

[Precivilization]

Got me a new drillin' rig, Bosch DP 500

The stand thing was made in Germany and of course my Bosch drill was made in Switzerland.

I was looking to buy that Bosch DP 500 stand but I have been put off by how expensive it is. I thought I could buy a used drill press for how much the stand cost. Is it sturdy?

 

[jessysirazvan]

Padre socket set 989hs Made in Germany?(ratchet probably taiwan made) i hope almost socket are made in Germany.
Maybe Monte know better than me?

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[Precivilization]

This thing is very well machined and honestly the first hole I just drilled with it is more square than any hole I ever drilled on the HF mini mill I sold a few months ago. It certainly gave my drill a bit of a workout doing an 8.5mm hole 25mm deep and so I can't really recommend pairing it with a crappy corded drill

I was looking for the following:
1. Well made
2. Easy to store (no permanent bench spec available)
3. Holes in aluminum up to 3/8" (10mm)
4. More use out of my Bosch corded drill I already own

And this thing works great for all of that. If I wasn't so sick of Chinese junk I would have bought a cheaper version or a benchtop drill press. I'm glad I went with this instead.

I wanted one for pretty much the same reasons. And also resisted getting a Chinese drill press as well.

That hole looks very uniform and clean! You could also-if you needed in the future-get an older American made small drill press like Craftsman, Delta or similar from Craigslist, they sell for pretty cheap and they are very well made.

 

[PiotrxV]

Padre socket set 989hs Made in Germany?

Every tool I ever had from Padre was German made, sockets too. But I have one problem with their tools, chrome finish is chipping off like crazy. Especially from sockets. I get rid of most of them but I will try to find some wrenches to show you what Im talking about. One thing good about Padre tools is that they are keeping dimensions even when you abuse them. Also very hard to brake.

 

[jessysirazvan]

I ask because i found this post from Monte.

"on the other hand in case of Padre i wouldn´t be sure if "Germany" on the tool indicates it is from Germany....
if you look at page 68 for example at the ratchet with the part # 904 H
http://www.ceder.de/cms/projektpadre/media/pdf/WG3.pdf
i claim it´s from Taiwan."

Inside my set the ratchet 1/4 is 904 H

 

[dutchgray]

This thing is very well machined and honestly the first hole I just drilled with it is more square than any hole I ever drilled on the HF mini mill I sold a few months ago. It certainly gave my drill a bit of a workout doing an 8.5mm hole 25mm deep and so I can't really recommend pairing it with a crappy corded drill

I was looking for the following:
1. Well made
2. Easy to store (no permanent bench spec available)
3. Holes in aluminum up to 3/8" (10mm)
4. More use out of my Bosch corded drill I already own

And this thing works great for all of that. If I wasn't so sick of Chinese junk I would have bought a cheaper version or a benchtop drill press. I'm glad I went with this instead.

Im glad it works for your needs, I wouldn't get rid of my old one even though I have a proper old pillar drill, they are useful to have about.

 

[PiotrxV]

It is possible that the blue handle one is from Taiwan, for example I had ratchets like in your picture set 989 & like in 978 DS (black plastic ones). But tools were purchased in 2004 if I remember right and invoice stated that they came from Remscheid. Its almost 14 years so probably a lot changed in that time.

Yet another reason not to think again about this company at least for me. If I have to buy Taiwan made tools I would stick to Sata, good quality and way down of Padre pricetag.

As a mechanic you always must to think about spending your money best you can ;-)

 

[jessysirazvan]

It is possible that the blue handle one is from Taiwan, for example I had ratchets like in your picture set 989 & like in 978 DS (black plastic ones). But tools were purchased in 2004 if I remember right and invoice stated that they came from Remscheid. Its almost 14 years so probably a lot changed in that time.

Yet another reason not to think again about this company at least for me. If I have to buy Taiwan made tools I would stick to Sata, good quality and way down of Padre pricetag.

As a mechanic you always must to think about spending your money best you can ;-)

I own also Stahlwille set socket 52/16/6qr which i am sure 100% that are Made in Germany and IUS (old romanian tools which are good to) some old Black&Decker but i wanted try this Padre tools because i found it on Amazon.it to 55€ the whole set in promo.

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[jessysirazvan]

Opinel N.8 olive wood

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[andestriping]

Presentation

Hello everyone.

I have been a long time follower of this thread. It all started when, after my thirties, I inherited a good amount of tools from my grandfather. It took me a while to realize just how lucky I was with the tools I had received. As, at that time, I was travelling already, I left those tools at my dad's house, and a couple of years later I found them kept in a really bad location in his garden, most of them fully rusty. This set me on the path of tool restauration, which led me on the path of tool identification. Which, not too later, brought me to this thread. At the time I knew very very little about tools, and I was especially intrigued about one brand of which I had a few pliers, with a logo with the icon of a Trekker/alpinist?! Stubbornness made me search through, for weeks, something like the first 700 pages of this thread.

In the meanwhile, I started recognizing many of the tools I was seeing in posts from this thread. And I read and read, and continued to travel and gather tools, and everywhere I went I started helping people recovering their "old" good tools. I have now restaured hundreds of tools, always learning about them.

And, in my nomadic lifestyle, every once and a while, when I have more time and internet access, I spend some large hours trying to catch up here.

Through all this time, I am always thinking that I simply HAVE to take pictures of my tools and share them. I have a few really special ones, many things from the 60's and 70's, quite in good condition.

Unfortunately I am rarely staying long enough in Portugal these last years to be able to take nice pictures and share them here. But my debt towards this community is enormous. It has help me to develop so much skills and gather knowledge, which has helped me make more informed shopping choices, and helped other people along the way.

This being clearly so, it is my intention to do so, sooner or later. And I will. But it can take a while. Still, as of now, I will post a series that I am quite sure you will all seriously appreciate. It is my way of saying thanks to all of you (BIG BIG special thanks to you Monte ! ! )

I hope you all enjoy.

 

[andestriping]

To start with, with all due respect and many thanks, to Monte:

 

[andestriping]

This is as close as the "Ali Baba's Tool Cave". A friend's old family warehouse.

I lost count on how many times, after brush wiring some junkyard looking piece of rusty metal, we would find, beneath the rust..the magic words: France, or Switzerland, or Germany, or England, or Sweden, or, less commonly, Japan.

Simply unbelievable!

 

[andestriping]

More from the Ali Baba's cave.

(Sorry for this way of attaching the photos, but it has been tricky enough getting them like this)

 

[andestriping]

Tools inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

Some more goodies.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

Some pictures of the area of the forge, inside the warehouse.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

Some old machines lying around.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

More machines..more stuff spread around.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

Some tools saved from oblivion.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

Still out of the cave

Solid worktables and a set of duplicated beaters.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

Yet more stuff rescued from oblivion.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

1rst-Aid Tool Kit for his mother

 

[Dave455]

Opinel N.8 olive wood

Those Opinel knives are really good for the money.

The blades are superbly ground. I've encountered much more expensive knives with blades so badly ground you might as well have just taken a bar of steel and sanded an edge on it!

A couple of strokes on some sharpening rods and those Opinels come up shaving sharp!

I have a couple the same size in my tool chest and use them for everything from cable stripping to box opening!

A local shop has the Stainless blade versions, but I havn't seen the Olive wood yet! Looks nice!

 

[Fretters]

Opinel N.8 olive wood

Good knives, the Opinel's. I have one as my pocket knife. They hold their edge well, and mine's taken some fair abuse and is still going strong.

 

[jessysirazvan]

Those Opinel knives are really good for the money.

The blades are superbly ground. I've encountered much more expensive knives with blades so badly ground you might as well have just taken a bar of steel and sanded an edge on it!

A couple of strokes on some sharpening rods and those Opinels come up shaving sharp!

I have a couple the same size in my tool chest and use them for everything from cable stripping to box opening!

A local shop has the Stainless blade versions, but I havn't seen the Olive wood yet! Looks nice!

Good knives, the Opinel's. I have one as my pocket knife. They hold their edge well, and mine's taken some fair abuse and is still going strong.

I own to Opinel with Bubinga Wood handle which is beautiful(olive wood pay15€ and bubinga pay 18€) but on my wishlist is opinel with ebony mozambique wood handle)

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and this is on my wishlist(Ebony from Mozambique) but is very expensive to about 60-70€

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[ricleh]

Andestriping,

Great pictures. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

This is the studio/workshop we mounted with the stuff we saved from the warehouse. (Before)

 

[andestriping]

Inside the Ali Baba's cave (continuation)

This is the studio/workshop we mounted with the stuff we saved from the warehouse. (After)

 

[drivesitfar]

Ande: i really enjoyed your pictures and guessing maybe the other members do too, but it's a lot to comment on in a pictures of old world tools thread.

since you are a new member let me welcome you to the group first of all. that said do you know how to start a thread in the vintage tools section maybe called ALLIE BABA'S VINTAGE TOOL SHED FULL OF TOOLS or something like that?

then post up all the pictures you've been posting and then post them individually as you have time or if you want to post more pictures of the one's members might ask you too. sound good? if you have questions send me a PM or ask anybody how to start a thread.

ALL: anybody have a favorite cutting blade they use on their FEIN tool or do you have a better tool for cutting small pieces of metal?

 

[thomfr]

After some testing I only use the original Fein blades although they are ridiculous expensive. They last and do the job.
Thom

 

[hautpot]

hey monte where can i purchase some zenten pipe shears?

 

[Snakevz]

Need some help;

I'm interested in buying Wago Variocrimp crimp pliers, but don't know who makes them? Handles look like Rennsteig... Or are they asian made? Are they worth 30$ used in good condition?

Thank you!

 

[Tomasz_W-wa]

Recently bought some things.
Old keys.

HAZET, BAHCO ...




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