I don't think you understand the title. There are power tools made in Europe. This isn't a hand tool only thread. Much of this thread consists of Metabo, Fein, Festool, Bosch, Mafell, etc power tools.
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I don't think you understand the title. There are power tools made in Europe. This isn't a hand tool only thread. Much of this thread consists of Metabo, Fein, Festool, Bosch, Mafell, etc power tools.
Cynical huckster
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Thanks!
Anyhow, our company doesn't sell Juco tools. They make good quality hammers and axes, but their pliers are terrible. I don't know why, but Juco are not interested in expanding their dealer network. However, I needed an inexpensive and reliable hammer, so I bought it in a hardvare store.
P.S. That's what I got from Di-Star as a New Year's gift. Diamond cutting blade made of chocolate
Nice! Now I want that long 1/4" ratchet shown in the video, but it seems nobody is selling it yet.
gathanas1970
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Nice! Now I want that long 1/4" ratchet shown in the video, but it seems nobody is selling it yet.
It's listed in the fine-tooth catalogue as new product so maybe in 2018
https://www.stahlwille.de/fileadmin...lyer/en/stahlwille-fine-tooth-ratchets-en.pdf
Do any of the top German companies (e.g. Hazet, Stahwille) make 6 point fractional/sae sockets or wrench sets? All I seem to be able to find are 12 points. I'm restoring and maintaining an older British car and it looks like I'll get Snap on as they have what I want. I did luck into an old Hazet Assistent and thought it would be nice to fill with German tools.
Thanks folks
Thanks folks
Cynical huckster
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Speaking of German tool manufacturers, Hazet makes inch 6-point sockets. Facom and Beta make the same 6-point sockets too, but they are not German companies
Unfortunately, I can no longer remember others top tool manufacturers who make such inch sockets.
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Stahlwille 6pt 1/4" sae
http://www.stahlwille-online.de/ind...hid=&scmd=pdetail&pcid=2616&cid=2618&pid=2661
http://www.stahlwille-online.de/ind...hid=&scmd=pdetail&pcid=2616&cid=2618&pid=2661
Hmmm... thanks for posting that. I need to see if they have a 3/8 drive, 6 point fractional set. I want that ratchet too.
The rope cutter makes a nice clean cut, and the ferrule slips on easily, BUT the crimp leaves a lot to be desired, look at the flange on it.
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mac_intosh
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"New" old Hazet catalogs published (1930-1949):
https://www.hazet.de/de/home/my-hazet/hazet-in-der-historie/
https://www.hazet.de/de/home/my-hazet/hazet-in-der-historie/
paulm12
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a pair of slip lock pliers from W Germany. I don't know if the red was original or aftermarket, I didn't try too hard to remove whats left of it. And I like the ridges (??) on the handle.
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Dave455
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You will probably find that 12 point sockets work just fine, provided you are using the original fasteners.
I've worked on many 60's and 70's vehicles and never had the need for 6 point sockets, in fact back then, hardly anybody had them!
Metrication coincided with many manufacturers outsourcing their fasteners, and the general drop in quality, both of materials and manufacture, so while it's a bit of a generalisation, if a British vehicle has 'Unified' (which is technically what they are) fasteners, you can usually get away with 12 point sockets!
If you go down the Snap On route, bear in mind that the smaller sizes (below 7/16) will not generally be found on British vehicles as the U.K. although it adopted 'unified' sizes in 1958, never adopted the smaller 'numbered' sizes, retaining it's own BA sizes instead. A set of these will be useful!
submariner
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Just curious, who's the actual manufacturer of these traditional German tin snips:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B003QO1B2S/
They look similar to:
https://shop.nws-tools.de/en/berlin-pattern-tin-snips-10731.html
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B003QO1B2S/
They look similar to:
https://shop.nws-tools.de/en/berlin-pattern-tin-snips-10731.html
snowblindb
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Great news! PB Swiss is releasing VDE screwdrivers with the new slim head design.
Available in April!
Available in April!
What is a VDE screwdriver?
davethorik
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Electrically insulated
Picked up one of there locally for $7.
Will they work with modern bits?
I assume they aren't meant for high-accuracy?
I have a Miller's Falls 732B and it has a hemisherical stepped groove in either jaw, so it grips round shapes well. I used it a lot with a round shank hss chamfer tool to rapidly debur holes in metal. They are accurate "enough." You hold it so your arms float and the bit self centers on the work.
This drill has two jaws, with a triangle-shaped cut in the face of each jaw.
I don't know why I wanted one, maybe because I think it's a good idea in case there is no access to power. I guess .001" accuracy is out of the question. lol. (I need a drill press)
But it should be a good woodworking tool right? I assume that's what they were made for.
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davethorik
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Oh yes i don't think bit braces were made for what i use mine for lol, they made reamers and countersink tools that fit braces directly though. But i assume for wood. And of course spiral flute boring bits. I tend to use hex shank impact rated spade bits in my milwaukee m18 impact to drill holes in wood, but i never do anything pretty. I'm still learning finer woodworking.
Dave455
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Picked up one of these locally for $7.
Will they work with modern bits?
I assume they aren't meant for high-accuracy?
I have never had any problems with the 'accuracy' of a brace!
Speed, maybe, but accuracy and quality, no!
Some of the finest carpentry ever to be made was made with these tools!
Happy new year 2018 everybody !!! 
I like the York vises. I have another one (used) and a garage buddy has one too. They open and close very smoothly, the jaws line up and the subjective quality is good too (paint could be better here and there but it´s no drama. The small vice cost € 48.- new so i won´t complain). IIRC there is a connection between York and Wilton. (York employees founded Wilton...or something like that...)
https://www.obi.de/spannwerkzeuge/lux-schraubstock-sst-100-s-comfort/p/6241285
https://www.obi.de/schraubenzieher-...hraubendreher-satz-6-teilig-comfort/p/6431514
4 stars = Comfort, 5 stars = Professionel:
https://www.obi.de/schraubenzieher-...ubendreher-ph1-x-80-mm-professional/p/4086054
Just looked....cheapest flight back and forth: 213.- Euro .... If you sell me the pliers factory too we might have a deal
...and made to DIN standards
. Afaik Elora doesn´t produce pliers. Most regular pliers from them are supplied by http://www.otra-zangen.com/index.php/en/
Connex screwdriver
I only have these 2 more pics so far:
I like the York vises. I have another one (used) and a garage buddy has one too. They open and close very smoothly, the jaws line up and the subjective quality is good too (paint could be better here and there but it´s no drama. The small vice cost € 48.- new so i won´t complain). IIRC there is a connection between York and Wilton. (York employees founded Wilton...or something like that...)
They also sell other vises and also screwdrivers etc. under the "comfort" label so i guess it might be a quality rating:
https://www.obi.de/spannwerkzeuge/lux-schraubstock-sst-100-s-comfort/p/6241285
https://www.obi.de/schraubenzieher-...hraubendreher-satz-6-teilig-comfort/p/6431514
4 stars = Comfort, 5 stars = Professionel:
https://www.obi.de/schraubenzieher-...ubendreher-ph1-x-80-mm-professional/p/4086054
Have you ever heard of the low-cost airlines? The plane will take you to Kiev quickly and cheaply. I'll even meet you at the airport. You'll recognize me by Stanley French made pliers
The discount worth it, isn't it?
Just looked....cheapest flight back and forth: 213.- Euro .... If you sell me the pliers factory too we might have a deal
I played with the Gedores about 2 years ago so i don´t know anymore.... I own the Knipex version.....
Ukrainian made hammer with wooden handle. Hammer is branded as Expert Tools but made by Juco (manufacturer's website doesn't have English version, sorry). Hammer head looks roughly made and doesn't have any finish at all, but it's reliable and durable. Hammer face has only few surface scratches after couple of hours of intensive work.
But most of all I like the price. It's a little bit less than €2,50 incl. VAT
...and made to DIN standards nice collection !
I didn´t try the crimpers…
Nice !!! Thanks !!!
I guess NWS
. Afaik Elora doesn´t produce pliers. Most regular pliers from them are supplied by http://www.otra-zangen.com/index.php/en/you called ?What's happened to Garden tool experten Monte, has he upset
Snap-On fanbois or something ?
Connex screwdriver
New Hultafors Utility knife 'URZ'
Swiss company. Not sure where their tools are made.
It's selling point is simple toolless opening to change blades.
I can only find the older model available in the UK. Their website states the new model should have replaced the old one in 2017 so should be available soon I guess.
http://www.hultafors.co.uk/about-ou...that-cut-it/utility-knives/utility-knife-urz/
Swiss company. Not sure where their tools are made.
It's selling point is simple toolless opening to change blades.
I can only find the older model available in the UK. Their website states the new model should have replaced the old one in 2017 so should be available soon I guess.
http://www.hultafors.co.uk/about-ou...that-cut-it/utility-knives/utility-knife-urz/
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dutchgray
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I have 2 of those Hultafors knives, a black one and bright yellow one, which is the better as you can see it easily, they are good knives, quite heavy, better than the current Stanley 99E but I do prefer old English made ones, they had a much better fit and finish.
New Hultafors Utility knife 'URZ'
Swiss company. Not sure where their tools are made.
It's selling point is simple toolless opening to change blades.
I can only find the older model available in the UK. Their website states the new model should have replaced the old one in 2017 so should be available soon I guess.
http://www.hultafors.co.uk/about-ou...that-cut-it/utility-knives/utility-knife-urz/
Hultafors is a Swedish company best known for axes and rulers
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racingtadpole
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Cynical huckster
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Just looked....cheapest flight back and forth: 213.- Euro .... If you sell me the pliers factory too we might have a deal
So you want to buy Bost pliers factory? I'm ready to be a mediator - French is my primary foreign language
After that we can celebrate this deal in Kiev. We have cheap and good quality beer and vodka racingtadpole
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Hey Monte, just curious, do you use the climbing equipment in the pictures for its intended purpose?
nice kit !!
OkSo you want to buy Bost pliers factory? I'm ready to be a mediator - French is my primary foreign language
. I´m only waiting for the lottery prize (can only take 1 to 100000 days ) .And then we have a deal 
I want to use it for tree care (let down branches etc.). I hope it works
DMM "Pinto Rig" pulley and "Ultra O" carabiners:
supposed to be made in Wales/Great Britain:
Edelrid slings:
Cynical huckster
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Ok
Sure, I will wait. Stanley dealers live forever, especially if they also sell DeWalt. Did you know that?
Fretters
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Not oft you see something of Welsh manufacture.
They are beavering away there
All Airbus wings are made in the UK at sites in Wales and Bristol.
Ford made 514,000 petrol engines at Bridgend in Wales last year (Tdi at Dagenham in London) and export them to plants in Europe and elsewhere. They also made 145,000 V6 and V8 petrols for Jaguar Land Rover, although that contract is finishing as JLR have opened a new engine factory in Wolverhampton in the Midlands.
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Thought I'd repost this wrench strength test. It's in German but pretty self-explanatory. Maul is the open end. Hazet did best among the premium brands but clearly price is not a determinant of strength. The 1 euro Indian wrench was as strong as the 2 Snap-on.
http://wiesemann.eu/_UPLOAD/files/Oldtimermarkt.pdf
The Japanese test results elsewhere had Nepros ahead of all of the premium western brands although obviously strength is only one measure of a tools worth.
http://wiesemann.eu/_UPLOAD/files/Oldtimermarkt.pdf
The Japanese test results elsewhere had Nepros ahead of all of the premium western brands although obviously strength is only one measure of a tools worth.