Tools from the old world

[mrspeed]

New from Germany. Wiha wood handled screwdrivers. Has a hex bolster for a wrench, Strike through cap, and the tips appear to be nice typical Wiha tips. The flat head screwdrivers have some sort of laser tip on it. The smaller drivers do not have a strike through shank or hex bolster. Handles feel nice, but some of the wood looks a bit sloppy. Just the difficulties of working with a natural material I suppose.

My guess is that those aren't laser-etched tips, since Wera still has the patent on laser etching screwdriver tips for the next 5-7 years (at least in both the US and Germany that I checked). Maybe the pattern in those tips is machined or otherwise filed/ground in? Kinda looks like that in the picture.

 

[Cynical huckster]

Cool thanks !!

You're welcome!

Doeas SAM actually makes pliers at all ? The mechanics pliers have a german look too....

I have not sold SAM pliers yet, but I can ask my manager about COO. But I'm not really sure that she will answer me

cute For model cars ?

For electronics

 

[Monte]

2. Are any of the other pliers other than the cutter made in France or other than China

Here are 2 short videos about the new pliers:

The VDE range:
http://www.stanleyworks.de/products/new-tools
you can browse through the pliers selection to find them:
http://www.stanleyoutillage.fr/products/sub4/Produits/OUTILS+À+MAIN+/Pinces+et+cisailles+/Pinces+

 

[Metalio]

H Metalio,

I agree, I used the bit before with 1/4 to 3/8 adapter.

I am just looking for the hex with the best tolerance/ fitment.

I think the problem is the fitment of the bit in the hex and also the strut hex, Bilstein, seemed softer than the original.

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You could get stahlwille, hazet or gedore, they should al be a very tight fit. If those don't do it then probably nothing will. I have a teng tools (taiwanese) set of hex sockets for brake calipers and those are a really snug as well, but if you're only buying a 7mm then you might as well get the best possible.

 

[nanofrog]

For electronics

I'd suggest going with Schmitz for this purpose (COO = Germany, and that's all they make). And as you're buying directly from the manufacturer, they're the least expensive of all the top quality pliers and cutters.

They sell directly as a side-line as their primary business is as an ODM that other big names buy from (i.e. CK Tools, Bernstein, Gedore, NWS, and a number of others).

I've ordered directly from them with no issues. You can also find them on Amazon.de. Oh, and the HS22 grips are both ESD compliant as well as ergonomic.

IF you're interested in Japanese made, check out Hozan or Engineer. Also reasonably priced last time I checked and there's several ways to find them; eBay sellers in Japan or Rakuten for example.

 

[losvre]

I'd suggest going with Schmitz for this purpose (COO = Germany, and that's all they make). And as you're buying directly from the manufacturer, they're the least expensive of all the top quality pliers and cutters.

They sell directly as a side-line as their primary business is as an ODM that other big names buy from (i.e. CK Tools, Bernstein, Gedore, NWS, and a number of others).

I've ordered directly from them with no issues. You can also find them on Amazon.de. Oh, and the HS22 grips are both ESD compliant as well as ergonomic.

IF you're interested in Japanese made, check out Hozan or Engineer. Also reasonably priced last time I checked and there's several ways to find them; eBay sellers in Japan or Rakuten for example.

Keiba does nice pliers but not sure on ESD.

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[Cynical huckster]

Few pics of Stanley tools from our company store, just as promised

 

[losvre]

Few pics of Stanley tools from our company store, just as promised

Where all these Stanley power tools made in?

 

[Cynical huckster]

Where all these Stanley power tools made in?

China, of course These are DIY tools, not suitable for intensive work.

 

[Cynical huckster]

A little bit of DeWalt. Made in China, Czech Republic and Italy.

 

[maico]

China, of course These are DIY tools, not suitable for intensive work.

But this is a thread for European made tools

Some of those Stanley shear cutters look like Italian made Betakut

 

[maico]

The other day I took the alloy bottom cover of my 14" Asus laptop and was surprised to find it was held on by tiny 4mm torx, something I don't have so...time for some small stuff

PB Swiss 2mm punch, 6mm Torx (tamper proof) and 4mm torx. All hard rubber handles

 

[Cynical huckster]

But this is a thread for European made tools

There is a lot of Asian made tools in this thread. Just a fact.

Some of those Stanley shear cutters look like Italian made Betakut

Maybe these shear cutters are made in the same Taiwanese factory?

 

[maico]

There is a lot of Asian made tools in this thread. Just a fact.

If made for a European company, made in Japan or COO unknown

 

[Cynical huckster]

If made for a European company, made in Japan or COO unknown

You forgot about Taiwan

 

[maico]

You forgot about Taiwan

Nope, that's new World when it comes to tools

A Facom, Hazet or Stahlwille ratcheting wrench made in Taiwan is old World !

A Gedore ratcheting wrench is old World made in Germany

 

[Monte]

Few pics of Stanley tools from our company store, just as promised

Thank you for the pics of your store !!! A lot yellow/black ! You need a trained eye to grab the tool from the right brand Do you have other tools on display too ? What sells better Stanley or Dewalt ?
















Metabo KGSM 216 Vario Max mitre saw

 

[maico]

Maun leather punch made in England.

Maun Industries have been making specialist pliers since 1944

https://www.maunindustries.com/revolving-punch-plier/

 

[Cynical huckster]

Do you have other tools on display too ?

We also have Bosch, Toptul, CMT, Di-Star, Paton, Kapro, Bahco, Truper, cutting wheels from Pferd, Novovodolazkyi abrasive plant, Zaporozhabrasive, and some cheapo Chinese brands.

Moreover, we supply on demand SAM, PTS, Gedore, Facom, Knipex, Ruko, Guehring, Makita, Metabo, Milwaukee, Jonnesway, King Tony, etc.

What sells better Stanley or Dewalt ?

It depends on the tool and the client type. DeWalt hand tools are not officially available in my country, but Stanley hand tools are very strong on Ukrainian market. DeWalt power tools sells better than Stanley, but Bosch is the absolute champion.

 

[drtyler]

Are most SAM tools still made in France?

We also have Bosch, Toptul, CMT, Di-Star, Paton, Kapro, Bahco, cutting wheels from Pferd, Novovodolazkyi abrasive plant, Zaporozhabrasive, and some cheapo Chinese brands.

Moreover, we supply on demand SAM, PTS, Gedore, Facom, Knipex, Ruko, Guehring, Makita, Metabo, Milwaukee, Jonnesway, King Tony, etc.



It depends on the tool and the client type. DeWalt hand tools are not officially available in my country, but Stanley hand tools are very strong on Ukrainian market. DeWalt power tools sells better than Stanley, but Bosch is the absolute champion.

 

[north]

But this is a thread for European made tools

*snip*

Check the first post.

 

[Cynical huckster]

Are most SAM tools still made in France?

Approximately 80% of SAM product range are made in Europe, 60% are made in France. The rest is probably imported from Asia.

 

[Reed Prince]

But this is a thread for European made tools

Check the first post.

Hmmm, so I suppose it's OK to post this recent purchase here, as the COO is China. The Amazon prices for this item have been quite reasonable recently, and it is certainly cheaper than buying the components piecemeal.

TL224 Test Lead Set
TP175 TwistGuard™ Test Probes
AC285 SureGrip™ Alligator Clips
AC220 SureGrip™ Alligator Clips
AC280 SureGrip™ Hook Clips
AC283 SureGrip™ Pincer Clips
A convenient six-pocket roll up pouch
CAT III 1000 V, CAT IV 600 V safety rating

The following photo shows a different (earlier?) pair of test probes.

 

[Cynical huckster]

Guehring VHM end mill.

 

[maico]

Has anyone used Witte 1/4" diamond bits, do they offer more grip ?

They look nice !

http://witte-werkzeuge.de/1/bits/diamond-bits/#c1080

 

[Nigelhirst]

Has anyone used Witte 1/4" diamond bits, do they offer more grip ?

They look nice !

http://witte-werkzeuge.de/1/bits/diamond-bits/#c1080

Don't be tempted by the Amazon offer - I ordered 25 Ph1 bits and received.....a punch. To be fair it was made in Germany, and I did get a refund.

 

[scubadoober]

Saw these at Lowes today. Stanley Fatmax precision screwdriver set, COO France. Menards has them for 9.99. Going to pick them up next time.

 

[losvre]

Hmmm, so I suppose it's OK to post this recent purchase here, as the COO is China. The Amazon prices for this item have been quite reasonable recently, and it is certainly cheaper than buying the components piecemeal.

Is this Fluke made in china?

 

[maico]

Don't be tempted by the Amazon offer - I ordered 25 Ph1 bits and received.....a punch. To be fair it was made in Germany, and I did get a refund.

In more recent times I've noticed that if you press the return button on an item worth less than £10, and part of a larger order, you get the refund and a message saying there is no need to return the item ! ( The item needs to be supplied and sold by Amazon.)
Clearly they don't want their business clogged up with low value items that need to be resold via Amazon Warehouse as returns.

 

[toolj]

Has anyone tried the new extendable Facom ratchets?

 

[Nigelhirst]

Has anyone tried the new extendable Facom ratchets?

Yes I've got a 3/8 one. Nicely made but a bit heavy and 'clunky' so I don't use it much...
Nigel

 

[Monte]

We also have Bosch, Toptul, CMT, Di-Star, Paton, Kapro, Bahco, Truper, cutting wheels from Pferd, Novovodolazkyi abrasive plant, Zaporozhabrasive, and some cheapo Chinese brands.

Sounds good ! Do you have some more pics ?














News from Metabo:
Metabo AS 18 L PC cordless vacuum (Metaloc compatible):

News from Mafell:
Mafell MT 55 18M bl cordless plunge saw:

and news from Starmix:
upgraded vacuums:

 

[maico]

Bahco 7750 ratchet made in Spain. Same mech as the Snap-On dual 80 but cheaper

 

[Cynical huckster]

Sounds good ! Do you have some more pics ?

I already posted some here and here. More to come from next Monday. Today I need to visit many places and meet many people, so I don't get to the store

 

[losvre]

News from Metabo:
Metabo AS 18 L PC cordless vacuum (Metaloc compatible):

Nice stuff Monte!

I don't understand though why Metabo or Fein do not make any handheld vacuum cleaner.

I have some Metabo batteries and it would also be another incentive to eventually buy some Fein goodies

As a DIYER is difficult to invest in different battery platoforms not only because of the money but also the complication of chargers/ storage space etc.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

The following photo shows a different (earlier?) pair of test probes.

I have the earlier set with the other probes. I much prefer the older ones to the new Twist Grip ones.

 

[Monte]

I already posted some here and here. More to come from next Monday. Today I need to visit many places and meet many people, so I don't get to the store

Don´t worry you don´t have to hurry

Nice stuff Monte!
I don't understand though why Metabo or Fein do not make any handheld vacuum cleaner.

I have some Metabo batteries and it would also be another incentive to eventually buy some Fein goodies

As a DIYER is difficult to invest in different battery platoforms not only because of the money but also the complication of chargers/ storage space etc.

I could imagine that Metabo might offer a handheld vacuum one day but i´m sceptical about Fein. Metabo tries to offer a full line of tools while Feins strength is metal working.















Husqvarna "Technical" forest helmet

free view with visor opened

sun visor (can be removed)

ventilation with metal mesh inserts

UV indicator and reflective strips

neck protection

metal etched visor

one hand ratchet adjustment and 6 point harness

coo

 

[upgrading]

Cool helmet and Made in Sweden to boot.

 

[anetode]

Saw these at Lowes today. Stanley Fatmax precision screwdriver set, COO France. Menards has them for 9.99. Going to pick them up next time.

My advice would be don't do it. I picked up a set and after taking a close look the slotted tips were slightly uneven, then the chrome chipped/peeled on them within the first few uses. Stick with Wiha

 

[Schweizerwolf]

I have a technical question about drop forging, specifically pertaining to Stahlwille wrenches of the 1980s. Double ring Stahlwille Stabil in a recent online purchase of NOS exhibit quite rough forging and often poorly struck (faint) lettering. That attached shows misaligned letters and "Germany" appears to be double-struck. Were tool dies with combined lettering used in a single forging, or were separate lettering dies applied later in the process?
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