That's appalling packaging! I've only bought from Amazon.jp and their stuff comes to Oz in a sturdy and very generously proportioned box with the items shrink wrapped onto a cardboard base.
Back on post 29188 I said I would post my comparison of the Gedore vs. Facom wrench finish. I found my new set of double ended box deep offset Gedore wrench set to have an unfinished rough/coarse appearance in comparison to my Facom for example. I hope my phone photo shows the difference clearly.
Wera never were made in Germany, they were rebranded Norbar, made in the UK.
Maybe try Hazet if you insist on German made, they have some very good specials on now:
https://www.jensputzier.com/hazet/torque-tools/
Not sure about other brands, I have a 10-yr old Gedore with no COO identified and apparently also a Norbar lookalike, it was probably also made by Norbar (who make great wrenches!).
As for the range, I had only a 20-100Nm for a long time, working mainly on motorcycles and also some car stuff. I found it a little too big for the small stuff and often ran out of range working on cars. I would instead recommend a 3/8 drive ~60Nm and a 1/2 drive ~200Nm. Those two wrenches from hazet are about us$320 right now, which I think is a great deal.
The finish it seems to be of personal preference and I prefer the kind of rough one as it is also less slippery.Yes, that Facom finish looks as good as Toptul's satin finish.
Everywhere says 200mm so you would need to call the seller. In my experience Gedore has zero customer service and you are dependent on the seller.Does anyone have the Gedore 8133-200 multifunction pliers? If so, can you measure their length? Gedore doesn't have any data for these pliers on their website.
I recently picked up a pair for a needlenose roundup I'm planning to do, but I wonder if I was sent a mislabeled set of 8133-180. As you can see, these 8133-200 is visually markedly shorter than the 8132-200.
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These 8133-200 measure about 188-190mm long, whereas the 8132-200 are about 205-206mm. I bought the 8133-200 (and for that matter the 8132-200) for a forthcoming "needlenose roundup."
Everywhere says 200mm so you would need to call the seller. In my experience Gedore has zero customer service and you are dependent on the seller.
On another note, how do they compare against the similar Knipex?
Are you by any chance including Klein's in the comparison? I'd be curious to see how they compare in a controlled head to head, given all the hubbub in the Knipex needle nose thread. My needle nose collection now includes the old Western Forge USA made Craftsman, many Knipex, Klein, Channellock, Stahlwille, the NWS made Irwins, Gedore, Proto, and the Spain made Bahcos. I honestly can't say which are my favorites, as I like each for different reasons, and they're not all equivalent models, so I can't compare them directly.The seller in this case was amazon.com (not .de; when I bought they were actually cheaper on .com), so...
I'll call Gedore US tomorrow and see what they have to say (if anything). I'll be disappointed if what you write ends up being my experience. I own a lot of Gedore tools but have never needed to contact them. I have had to contact Bondhus (Felo's US distributor), Stahlwille, Knipex, Rennsteig (US, who escalated my questions to the mothership), and Wiha USA in the past. All of them have been very responsive and helpful.
I have never used a Knipex similar to the Gedore 8133. I guess they have two similar units, one that is functionally identical, but shorter:
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and one with a cable shear instead of a standard cutter, and no emergency crimper, that's 200mm long:
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I thought about buying the 13 82 200 for my needlenose roundup, but it was out of stock on amazon.de and is stupid expensive from US sellers (>$65).
As it stands I already had 7 pairs of ~200mm needlenose pliers, and in the past few weeks I bought 5 more (Gedore 8132 and 8133, NWS, Facom, Snapper.) I expect sell many of them in the classifieds here after my little comparison.
I haven't used the 8133 yet. I'm going to wait to see what they say tomorrow (today being a US holiday) because it may be exchanged if it was mislabeled. Fit and finish is typically excellent - Gedore needs to get their Austrian people to train their German counterparts, Germany, because none of their German stuff looks this nice! - and the joint was nice and smooth right out of the bubblewrap. As I expect from Gedore pliers.
Are you by any chance including Klein's in the comparison?
I'd be curious to see how they compare in a controlled head to head, given all the hubbub in the Knipex needle nose thread.
Also, I was watching the price drop about a dollar every couple days on those Gedore multi-purpose needle nose pliers. Was planning to buy them after a couple more price drops when they suddenly shot back up. I'm assuming you're the one who bought them![]()
I have the first knipex above of 160mm and they are very good although used very lightly.The seller in this case was amazon.com (not .de; when I bought they were actually cheaper on .com), so...
I'll call Gedore US tomorrow and see what they have to say (if anything). I'll be disappointed if what you write ends up being my experience. I own a lot of Gedore tools but have never needed to contact them. I have had to contact Bondhus (Felo's US distributor), Stahlwille, Knipex, Rennsteig (US, who escalated my questions to the mothership), and Wiha USA in the past. All of them have been very responsive and helpful.
I have never used a Knipex similar to the Gedore 8133. I guess they have two similar units, one that is functionally identical, but shorter:
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and one with a cable shear instead of a standard cutter, and no emergency crimper, that's 200mm long:
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I thought about buying the 13 82 200 for my needlenose roundup, but it was out of stock on amazon.de and is stupid expensive from US sellers (>$65).
As it stands I already had 7 pairs of ~200mm needlenose pliers, and in the past few weeks I bought 5 more (Gedore 8132 and 8133, NWS, Facom, Snapper.) I expect sell many of them in the classifieds here after my little comparison.
I haven't used the 8133 yet. I'm going to wait to see what they say tomorrow (today being a US holiday) because it may be exchanged if it was mislabeled. Fit and finish is typically excellent - Gedore needs to get their Austrian people to train their German counterparts, Germany, because none of their German stuff looks this nice! - and the joint was nice and smooth right out of the bubblewrap. As I expect from Gedore pliers.
Sell the Bacho on EBay and get some non-chinesium ones [emoji482]Bahco 160mm cable cutters. Always used side cutters previously. May not be news to people here but cable cutters are much better at cutting cables than side cutters. Cleaner cut and require less effort. Wish I'd bought some years ago. Made in China
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They look like clones of the Tsunoda CA-22. Made in Japan and can be found online for less than $15.Sell the Bacho on EBay and get some non-chinesium ones [emoji482]
I have the first knipex above of 160mm and they are very good although used very lightly.
Please report back after you have contacted Gedore.
Cheers
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Sell the Bacho on EBay and get some non-chinesium ones [emoji482]
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What is the manufactures intended use of those schmitz ? I ask because I have owned their snips before and they are quality only seemed to be made only for small electronic work/rework.They’re looking into it. I have to say their US distributor seems to take less ownership of their product in the US than those for Stahlwille, Knipex, Rennsteig, Felo (Bondhus), or Wiha.
Oh, and above I forgot to mention another set that I purchased for this roundup: Schmitz 4912HS22.
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I didn’t know Schmitz made full size pliers. They have box joints like their mini pliers. At $40 on amazon.com (shipped from Schmitz in DE) they were the 2nd most expensive new purchase for this roundup (after snapper), though I think I paid the most for the Stahlwilles years ago. I’m looking forward to seeing how well their build and performance scales up.
...My last purchase
I have the thin jaw Chanellock (made in Spain) probably by Bahco that I use for the sway bar links on the BMWs, I like them a lot!
I have the thin jaw Chanellock (made in Spain) probably by Bahco that I use for the sway bar links on the BMWs, I like them a lot!
I have some others....Wow nice collection I'm speechless [emoji106], Top is great Japanese brand i'm forgot Lobster and KTC is fine wrenches too, but don't know if they have thin profile.








Most likely using them on inner tie rod nuts, which are typically beyond sizes commonly found in most mechanics arsenal. And they often times require a thin jawed wrench for access, something readily available in an adjustable.This is probably a stupid question but... Why use an adjustable spanner rather than the correct size combination spanner assuming you have one? Genuinely curious as I see mechanics on youtube and car tv shows use them quite a bit on suspension.
Hello tool freaks...My last purchase
This is my first quality adjustable wrench, in my opinion is only two brands for adjustable wrenches exist Irega and Bahco
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Beautiful adjustable but I'm all confused now. I thought the Bahcos were made by Irega. Does Bahco also manufacture in Spain?
Most likely using them on inner tie rod nuts, which are typically beyond sizes commonly found in most mechanics arsenal. And they often times require a thin jawed wrench for access, something readily available in an adjustable.
This is probably a stupid question but... Why use an adjustable spanner rather than the correct size combination spanner assuming you have one? Genuinely curious as I see mechanics on youtube and car tv shows use them quite a bit on suspension.
Not a stupid question at all, good question so let me explain. It requires an 18 mm thin wrench as the space is very tight between the sway bar and the end link. It's not to unscrew the nut at the end of the end link but to hold the shaft from rotating as one removes the nut and as I said the space is very tight.
Some of the options I looked at were to purchase a bicycle type of wrench (sort of stamped steel) but they are short and the torque spec on the fastener requires something a bit longer or at least have a comfortable handle to counter hold against. Another was to purchase the Facom thin wrenches but.....they are a bit pricey. I settled for the thin jaw Chanellock adjustable wrench, this way I can have multiple sizes in one wrench![]()
What is the manufactures intended use of those schmitz ? I ask because I have owned their snips before and they are quality only seemed to be made only for small electronic work/rework.