Tools from the old world

[Hazet]

Here are pictures of some tools I received yesterday. I am working on obtaining the full 258 BMW tool assortment set from HAZET. I have about 2/3 of the tools so far, but I am desperately seeking a HAZET 8816GK with black handle and black metal change lever. If anyone has a new one for sale let me know.

Here are pictures of the HAZET and the GEDORE pliers. Both are very nice.

HAZET and GEDORE ratchets. Notice that the GEDORE ratchet has the handle backwards (i.e. the Gedore logo is on the opposite side ).

 

[Monte]

@wolpi:
i only had them up to 24mm . Now 27mm. 30, 34 and 36 will follow...


@phang:
good picture of the piano wire inserts !

i don`t have the pouch so i bought this Gedore plastic insert for mine:

@american lockpicker:

nice ! usually you see here only Fiskars axes etc.
some more scissors: Bessey + Facom

Noname scissors "Solingen - W.Germany" , Erdi/Bessey "Combinox" Multi-purpose cutters and Facom scissors with adjustable handles/blades a.k.a "Mini-Max" shears made by www.nusharp.com.tw

@superautobacs:
the promised pics of the "dust guard"

Unfortunately the plan to use the dust guard with 3M clean + strip discs don`t work because the discs are too high so the dust extraction don`t work

@Hazet:
wow very nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really like those chrome plated Hazet pliers !!!! bling bling !!!
A Gedore ratchet in the US ? Very exotic !! How do you like the ratcheting ?? Smooth huh ??
ps: took a pic of my Gedore ratchets. The inscription is on top . Somebody at the factory must have slept.... But there is a large "Gedore" forged into the beam on top so it wouldn`t bother me

 

[superautobacs]

Here's two other Taiwanese scissor/shear manufacturers worth a mention: Bor Sheng and All Pro

Monte, thanks for the pictures. ..and unfortunate about the 3M pad not being compatible. Perhaps modify it so that you have longer 'whiskers'?

 

[Monte]

Here's two other Taiwanese scissor/shear manufacturers worth a mention: Bor Sheng and All Pro

hmm nice selection of scissors and snips ...
unfortunately they`re not available here so I`m stuck with the german stuff....

Monte, thanks for the pictures. ..and unfortunate about the 3M pad not being compatible. Perhaps modify it so that you have longer 'whiskers'?

good idea ! I`ll look if i can find a broom to borrow some "hairs" , or i shave my "whiskers" off my face but they`re not yet long enough





"Joggler" tool for punching/bending sheet metal. With swivel head.
From www.tama.dk

Punching tool engaged

Bending tool engaged

compared with "Pneutec" air tool

what it do ? Punching holes and bending an offset into sheet metal for mig spot-welding (car body panels)

 

[superautobacs]

Wow, that's an interesting tool, something I've never seen until now...perhaps because I don't look at welding related tools.

Is that a commonly available tool?

 

[Hazet]

Here are more of my English sized tools .

 

[bcjames]

Nice Gedore set there Hazet, I'd love those for working on my minis!

 

[american lockpicker]

Are there any websites in the USA that sell that tama tool?

 

[Monte]

@Hazet:
it seems you should change your name from "Hazet" to "Gedore"


@american lockpicker:
Eastwood sells it: click
They also have several other hand/air flange/punch tools: click

Wow, that's an interesting tool, something I've never seen until now...perhaps because I don't look at welding related tools.

Is that a commonly available tool?

The "edge setter"/punch tool is quite common, you`ll find it in catalogs usually in the automotive special tools section. The "Tama" tool original from Tama or a copy you`ll find from Gedore, Ks-Tools, Facom, Sauer Werkzeuge, Elora (pic below), Clarke, Sealey, SW-Stahl, NWS (4 styles) and others. Hazet + Stahlwille use different tools, 1 plier for punching and one for bending (probably made by Hazet since they have 3 versions each versus 2 each from Stahlwille). "Wurth" offers both versions. I wanted to make sure i receive the original so coincidentally I found it at a exhibition/fair last wednesday and bought it direct from the danish dude at the Tama booth (for 40€) Prices range from 40.- to 217.- € (Facom) for the same tool. (copy/original)

Hazet + Stahlwille version.
There also was a "Dako" brand version part no. "301" and "302". The older Hazet versions had clear yellow handles (pics will follow)
Hazet also offers this "countersink" tool for rivets which is based on the same tool.

Here are some pics using the Tama tool to restore a Ford Mustang: click

 

[Monte]

Hazet kneeling pad/mat

 

[Monte]

misc. stuff

"Keil" percussion drill bits 6 + 8mm for 1.- € ea. ....
+
Bosch sandpaper

 

[wizard1]

My pliers from Mercedes Benz 's tool kit.

 

[american lockpicker]

Nice tools wizard! My cousin bought a Merc Benz in Germany in the 90's and all it had was this small wrench which he gave to me.

 

[superautobacs]

Waaaaay back in page 42 I posted this one, which is exactly like yours, Wizard. One of the moderators on this board, bmwpower, said he has the same one that was in a BMW auto kit (at least that's what I believe he was saying).

 

[The Muffin Man]

Just as I suspected. FELO does make some of the Screwdrivers for HAZET. I think the new HAZET 802 are made by FELO exclusively for HAZET.

FELO

FELO

Felo's "SMART" design really intrigues me . Particularly the set depicted below...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E64RB8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

It seems like a perfect mobile tool set for an enduro or dirtbike. For $70, I am very tempted to buy a set

Does anyone know if Felo contracts another tool company for the 1/4in sockets or ratchet?

 

[superautobacs]

Does anyone know if Felo contracts another tool company for the 1/4in sockets or ratchet?

I seem to recall seein that set at my local Brafasco store some time ago. It was in their front showcase, along with some other Felo tools. I looked at the ratchet and socket through the glass, but wasn't enticed into seeing it up close. It seemed generic in the sense that it looked imported. Not that that's bad, but I'd rather have a set that's complete with EU-made tools.

 

[The Muffin Man]

I seem to recall seein that set at my local Brafasco store some time ago. It was in their front showcase, along with some other Felo tools. I looked at the ratchet and socket through the glass, but wasn't enticed into seeing it up close. It seemed generic in the sense that it looked imported. Not that that's bad, but I'd rather have a set that's complete with EU-made tools.

I agree that the ratchet does look like a generic Asian import as well .


While I am not familiar with EU's Country of Origin laws, the ratchet handle is imprinted with "Germany" while the SMART handle reads "Made in Germany"

 

[Monte]

Nice car tools here !!
@wizard: what does the pliers in the middle say ? "HAPEWE" ?

Like you guys already thought i also think the Felo ratchet and probably the sockets are imported. The Price seems too low for "made in Germany" and the design looks taiwanese too. The "germany" on the handle is only problematic for them if someone sue them...


more car tools:

Mercedes wrenches from Matador and BMW wrench from Heyco

Toyota wrenches

 

[Hazet]

I can vouch that the screwdriver is German made and very high quality (regular FELO tool) , but the ratchet and sockets are not German made . My brother bought it from Amazon and returned it soon afterwards. It is small though and relatively inexpensive though.

 

[Monte]

.... and returned it soon afterwards.

why ?



Wiha T-handle hex drivers

 

[Monte]

Angle grinder quick flange nut from Metabo (Jacobs) , new Metabo style (same as Bosch) and Bosch "SDS-clic" quick flange nut.

old Metabo angle grinder from a garage buddy

"Matador" 13mm combination wrench for the wrench collection...:

 

[american lockpicker]

Picked this up today I wonder if its rebranded Proxxon.

 

[baubau]

@monte and other forum experts living in Europe...

For auto body sanding and refinishing purposes, do shops in europe use mostly air sander or electric sanders?....i have seen some nicely designed electric orbital sanders from european tool manufacturers....

if any pictures are available from shops, could you please post them?

thanks..

 

[american lockpicker]

Some SAKs.

 

[Monte]

@american lockpicker:
I`m not sure if Proxxon manufacture these tools, on a mini carbide bur Proxxon set the name "Meisinger" was on the inner case. They produce carbide/steel/diamond burs and other "mini" tools for the dental technology etc. Here is a overview of the carbide burs: click. Other Proxxon tools also look like "Meisinger" tools ( Corundum abrasives/mounted points,polishing tools etc.) so i stay with Proxxon accessories in "dental quality". Some Dremel accessoires are from USA and Israel but most are from even farther away.....

btw. Nice multi tools !!
i dont`t have any, but here is one from germany
Frosch/Frog tool

@baubau:
electric tools are quite common here, more than air tools, but it depends where you look. Since a body shop needs a compresssor to run the paint guns and dry blow guns for water based paint you also see a lot air sanders here. If you look through the windows of those shops you can see "Festool" sanders very often.
Another brand which you see sold at car parts/tools distributors next to Festool is Rupes from Italy. Both companies also sell these "air stations" to hook up the sanders and also have adequate vacums. Both have a wide range of electric sanders so thats probably why you see them often (Festool "Rotex" etc.)

 

[Monte]

"Original Löwe" anvil cutter

 

[superautobacs]

It looks like the LÖWE blades are on its way to getting abducted into an alien aircraft for treatment.

Oh, here's a whole load of Frogs.

 

[Hazet]

I had some extra time and decided to look at the Gedore ratchet in more detail.

 

[baubau]

thank you for your input, monte..i did follow up on those links, some interesting stuff...

 

[Bolster]

Well, what do you know. The euro financial market is in free-fall today. Maybe some of us Omericans can actually afford some Euro toolage in the near future, provided our own government leaves us with any money to spend...

 

[Monte]

Oh, here's a whole load of Frogs.

thats how i actually found the german frog tool by searching for the pictured tool

It looks like the LÖWE blades are on its way to getting abducted into an alien aircraft for treatment.

yeah looks like a pic from "independence day" or so


The Löwe cutters are actually pretty good to cut soft material like hoses or sealing material etc.

Also already available as a copy for example from Dako/Gedore and NWS. www.qualipro.com.tw

@Hazet:
ah a Gedore "Dual 32" ratchet

A japanese "Tone" brand ratchet which i once opened. Looks similar to Gedore (but only 1 tooth instead of 2)

@baubau:
but you also can look at Bosch, Dewalt, Metabo etc. they should work too

@Bolster:
yes a falling Euro will help the european exports a lot. So what tools do you need ?

 

[Monte]

Hafu "L"-Handle vs. Wiha "T"-handle soft grip hex wrenches

Osborn wire brush

Peddinghaus welder's chipping hammer.

"forged quality - Peddinghaus - ein Begriff"

 

[Monte]

"Beta" cable tie tensioning tool

 

[dede2897234]

Monte,

Thanks for sharing pictures of your Beta cable tie tensioning tool. I never knew such a tool existed before today. I like the last 3 pictures showing the tool in action.


Dave

 

[Monte]

@dede2897234:
There a several versions of manual + pneumatic cable tie tools which you can find here: Hellermann Tyton

 

[wizard1]

@Monte,
I had Tone ratchet too.

More Japanese tools

 

[wizard1]

@Hazet ,
I like your Hazet foam holder! But I can't afford it! It's too expensive in China! I just bought a cheap wrench organizer from ebay.

 

[Monte]

nice tools wizard !!! Interesting Tone ratchet ! The handle looks like Tone and the head with the red "dot" looks like older snap-on ratchets which also had a "red dot". Looks like plastic ? Is it a push button ?
"Banzai" interesting name ....

wow thats a lot of Hazet wrenches !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well let`s see: 450N check ! 600N check ! 610N check ! 612 check ! 630 check !

 

[wizard1]

@Monte,
Yes !The red dot is a plastic trademark!It's not a push button.It can orbit with the gear.

 

[Monte]

@Wizard1:
thanks for the info !!


Another "red dot" ratchet, from Koken:
(with arrow for left and right indication)

Tone ratchets, Anex bit ratchet and Koken + KTC sockets:

1/4" Gedore vs. Tone vs. Snap-on: