Tools from the old world
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Nice! Where did you score those?
CGarage
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A former Facom dealer who retired in the 1980s. I bought almost all of what he had and most of it was .10cents on the dollar.
Picked up some stuff for an advent calendar for my step daughter, who wanted her own tool box (with tools) for christmas. These hazet drivers were only 12Eur + tax. They seem nice, but no "made in germany" to be found anywhere. Anyone know where they're from?
Also got these USAG ratcheting wrenches for myself. Exactly the same as the Facoms as far as i can see, but in slightly different packaging, and size combinations. This one for example is lacking 16 and 18 that the facom set has.
Also got these USAG ratcheting wrenches for myself. Exactly the same as the Facoms as far as i can see, but in slightly different packaging, and size combinations. This one for example is lacking 16 and 18 that the facom set has.
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Reed Prince
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Picked up some stuff for an advent calendar for my step daughter, who wanted her own tool box (with tools) for christmas. These hazet drivers were only 12Eur + tax. They seem nice, but no "made in germany" to be found anywhere. Anyone know where they're from?
Also got these USAG ratcheting wrenches for myself. Exactly the same as the Facoms as far as i can see, but in slightly different packaging, and size combinations. This one for example is lacking 16 and 18 that the facom set has.
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Thanks!
Better now?
Dakkyz
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Cool, so probably Oplast then? I thought they looked a little like they're own kraftgrip ones. I have a bunch of gedore drivers from slovenia/oplast laying around that are pretty good, but i definately prefer the hazet handles.
You'd think having "Made in Slovenia" would be much better than leaving people to just assume probably china.
.CGarage
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I had that Hazet set. Made in Slovenia. The tips were soft on the philips driver. I was so shocked I gifted them away. I liked the handles. I did not realize that there was a better line of Hazet screwdrivers that is offered other than these. When I want to try a tool brand, I normally start by buying my most used tool from them, which happens to be screwdrivers.
Well, from what I know, Oplast makes handles, not shafts. There is even informations on their site regarding solely handles. Interesting thing is that Unior, tool giant in former Yugoslavia, now Slovenia, never put nothing like COO stamping on tools. Never. A guy ( not like regular Joe, but more like knowledgable person) said that really tiny part of tools is manufactured in Slovenia. Black handled screwdrivers, they ought to be genuine... Blue handles - far east... And rest is outsorced. Truth be told, drastic difference in quality. Now is worse.
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You're right, it seems like its more a plastic factory.
Wonder if all the shafts come from the same place / are the same, or it's different depending on who they're making it for. Or maybe it's more a bring your own, and we slap a handle on, type deal.
Dave455
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I own the black hard handles Hazet Trinamic screwdrivers. They are marked ‘Made in Slovenia”, but they seem to be decent. I always assumed they were made by Oplast, but very much to Hazet specs.
I’ve seen the cheaper drivers, there seem to be a couple of styles, but many colours and brands, but they seem to be a generic Oplast driver rebranded. Price is about what they go for. Quality of these is nothing special.
Personally, if I was Hazet I wouldn’t be putting my name on these rebranded tools, but companies do odd things. If you buy the better, but more costly “Trinamic” or “Hexanamic” you will probably be fine, but you need to know what you are buying!
I’ve seen the cheaper drivers, there seem to be a couple of styles, but many colours and brands, but they seem to be a generic Oplast driver rebranded. Price is about what they go for. Quality of these is nothing special.
Personally, if I was Hazet I wouldn’t be putting my name on these rebranded tools, but companies do odd things. If you buy the better, but more costly “Trinamic” or “Hexanamic” you will probably be fine, but you need to know what you are buying!
You'd think having "Made in Slovenia" would be much better than leaving people to just assume probably china.
They're hoping people assume made in germany. I suspect some of them are pushing their "made in germany" claims too. Saw some "made in germany" hammers in a catalog a while back with Nupla SG handles.
Exactly. They'll assume. For instance, I have a friend that's Hazet fan... Fanatic. That's right. And being one, he made his tool mission as a life's mission... Find all Hazet... And then some more. He is buying letters, really. Thanks to Monte (suggestion to look into Hazet's catalog in searching for german made tools) it's obvious that Hazet, as a model for discussion, produces pretty modest number of different articles. Ratchets, sockets, sets of those, cabinets and wrenches. Other tools are outsourced. Many of it - far, far east. But, interesting enough, looking by their catalog, pliers, bits and bits in sockets are german made. But not Hazet's factory made it. I have Facom, that has only France forged in, or Palmera pliers stamped just Spain. Does it mean they are produced there? I am not sure, far less convinced. Then again, Vessel has 'Product of Japan', and now almost notorious 'Made in USA with global materials' (sorry, because of this very same thread). We're buying letters, really. Would be a lot nicer if we buy something in between.
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Facom I'm not too concerned about. They're owned by Stanley, who got busted for violating US country of origin laws several years ago. And since Facom is sold in the US I don't think they'd risk it. And them getting busted is a big part of the "Made in USA", "Made in USA with global materials", "Assembled in USA" labelling over here. What they can put on the label depends on what percentage of the product is US made.
COO labelling on other euro brands owned by US based tool companies is also probably accurate.
Some of the euro owned companies I'm not so sure about. Something like a socket or wrench yeah it's probably 100% made where the stamp says it was. Anything with multiple components maybe not.
You can't even be sure of that with something as simple as sockets. This is what Urrea was busted by customs for doing specifically with sockets. They were forging blanks in Taiwan then shipping to Mexico for chrome plating and finishing, and stamping them with Mexico. It was determined that wasn't enough to constitute Mexico as the COO and now they place a sticker that says Taiwan on their sockets that still have Mexico stamped on them.
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Oh, yes, thank you mrspeed, can't right now look for facts, but believing you, I must type in here that I've had for a looooong time assumptions about likewise deceiving in leading european manufacturers, primarily about honesty in production of ratchets, sockets and wrenches. New things (up to two decades) look a little bit off...
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Here is the case info from the CBP. https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=Urrea&collection=ALL&sortBy=RELEVANCE&pageSize=30&page=1
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zerosanity
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Knipex Ergo Strip
A bit pricey, but very nice , handy tool. Knipex great quality of course...
A bit pricey, but very nice , handy tool. Knipex great quality of course...
zerosanity
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Hello,
Does anybody know where the Bellota screwdrivers are made? And if they are any good?
Good price on amazon ES...
Does anybody know where the Bellota screwdrivers are made? And if they are any good?
Good price on amazon ES...
I think they look like these:
If they are identical with Bellota then they are made by Oplast in Slovenia
Btw. Bellota: Some Bellota wrenches for sale supposed to be made by Gedore in Germany:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Qualitaetsw...sid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10&var=452503840911
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CGarage
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How do you like the Ersa soldering iron, Monte?
Ganymedes
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Hello Zerosanity, Bellota is a spanish manufacturer: BELLOTA, La Calidad,Nuestra Herramienta,20230 Legazpi,Guipuzcoa, Espana. www.bellota.com, [email protected].
Their tools are of good quality. I have some and they are like Gedore.Regards
Their tools are of good quality. I have some and they are like Gedore.Regards
Ganymedes
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Hello CGarage, Like you, I have all these Facom Isoryl screwdrivers, but........not the wall board. I love it!
CGarage
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Bonjour mon ami, vous avez bon goût. merci pour le gentil compliment! Meilleurs voeux des Etats-Unis à votre beau pays!
So far i only soldered a couple of wires together. But i like it, since it´s light and handy (unlike my Weller and Ersa soldering guns) and very important: it has 100% duty cycle (unlike my soldering guns....). Heats up quick. Affordable too ! You also can get the tips without problems. So overall a good buy i think. (The cable could be more flexible though)
Weber Hydraulik "SGP2-Mobil" trolley jack
(MEGA SGP2)
Handle can be locked to the jack so you can carry it. Handle can be extented so you can roll it around like a shopping trolley.
Jack84
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Carolus slim design ratchet.
Pretty sure WGB made them for Carolus (now Gedore Red). Looks very similar to the WGB stuff I have.
Looks and feels good, ratchet is smooth and the sockets look reasonably well finished with minor flaws.
Bought it slightly used for 15.-
Pretty sure WGB made them for Carolus (now Gedore Red). Looks very similar to the WGB stuff I have.
Looks and feels good, ratchet is smooth and the sockets look reasonably well finished with minor flaws.
Bought it slightly used for 15.-
rice rocket
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Festool/TANOS is releasing new systainers that don't match the heights of the old ones, with minimal improvements.
Bogdan M.
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New lamp:
Olfa
Olfa
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Looks curiously like my HK pistol cases. I'm going to check them out to see manufacturer now!
CGarage
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I was going to say that! Looks like my HK VP9 case!
Reed Prince
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A bit kit I assembled for most of the hex and torx fasteners I am likely to encounter. IIRC, all are Wera except for the Wiha #4 Phillips and the security #2 Phillips and #2 square I put in the extra spaces.
Sealey 1/4" socket rail. Seams to be ok quality. Sockets go on and off easy enough and it can be held upside down and jiggled around without sockets falling off. Its way too long for 1/4" sockets but the caps come off the ends so it should be simple to cut to size. No COO.
