Tools from the old world
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@sick puppy:
I guess the Knipex and Facom pliers are better because of the piano wire inserts which are stronger than the regular pliers with forged tips.
I don`t know which ones you`d rather buy , i guess "King Tony" because the name sounds cool ???
no i guess Knipex
You also could take a look at the new Wiha pliers with notches in the tips:
@Bhae:
nice!!! Thanks for the pics !!! I like the vises !!
Unfortunately the new ones are quite expensive.
Also the new vises look like they are cast metal, yours is forged
I guess the Knipex and Facom pliers are better because of the piano wire inserts which are stronger than the regular pliers with forged tips.
I don`t know which ones you`d rather buy , i guess "King Tony" because the name sounds cool ???
no i guess Knipex You also could take a look at the new Wiha pliers with notches in the tips:
@Bhae:
nice!!! Thanks for the pics !!! I like the vises !!
Unfortunately the new ones are quite expensive.
Also the new vises look like they are cast metal, yours is forged
@Monte: Yes new, cast steel.
From: www.irimo.net:
Vices
IRIMO is the most traditional brand in the manufacture of vices in the Spanish market. IRIMO screw offers more accurate, more powerful and stronger in the market.
- High quality cast steel and high resistance
- Well above the requirements of the UNE 16,598
Supports toughest test without deformation, without suffering stiffness or looseness or nods.
IRIMO also offers a complete line of protective jaws both polyurethane and aluminum.
From: www.irimo.net:
Vices
IRIMO is the most traditional brand in the manufacture of vices in the Spanish market. IRIMO screw offers more accurate, more powerful and stronger in the market.
- High quality cast steel and high resistance
- Well above the requirements of the UNE 16,598
Supports toughest test without deformation, without suffering stiffness or looseness or nods.
IRIMO also offers a complete line of protective jaws both polyurethane and aluminum.
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Here are my few Euro tools:
Facom (SAE set and 36mm wrench for my viscous fan) wrenches:
Facom impact socket set (pretty sweet), Bahco 16" and 9" adjustable joint pliers, needle nose pliers, and wire cutters. Facom posidrive screw driver and Belzer hex drive set. Oh yeah and a Facom mini pick set.
Facom (SAE set and 36mm wrench for my viscous fan) wrenches:
Facom impact socket set (pretty sweet), Bahco 16" and 9" adjustable joint pliers, needle nose pliers, and wire cutters. Facom posidrive screw driver and Belzer hex drive set. Oh yeah and a Facom mini pick set.
y20dth
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old ("real") facom wrenches. Love it!
Moose-LandTran
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Monte said:
I'll work on anything that comes my way.
Just fixed a Fiat, got another coming this weekend for a timing belt + waterpump, next Wednesday a Nissan is coming in for rear brakes + serp belts. But yes, i also work on Mercedes!
Maybe one day the owner will let me work on this:
Monte said:So when do you open your own shop ??
No monies for a shop.
Welcome to my world..
It's small..
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billymade
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Are those your motorcycles or do you work on those as well? I think we need some pics of the motos!
Moose-LandTran
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Are those your motorcycles or do you work on those as well? I think we need some pics of the motos!
They're my dad's. Never really worked on a bike, they're not my thing. I don't think i have any pics of them either.
@Bhae:
Thanks !! Are there other spanish vise manufaturers ??
@lipadj46
nice tool collection !!! Harry Epstein has some great deals ! I like those wrenches too ! (and pliers + sockets + ....) Do the insulated screwdrivers say "Spain" or "Germany" ?
@moose:
thanks for the pics !!
i wish my parents would let me use their garage back then (but it is even narrower, built in the 50`s for a VW Käfer...) . But as long as there is enough space and you can work on cars there it`s a very good place i think. Everything fits in there, no rent (?) (or low) i guess - and it seems to be a nice + quiet street + neighborhood (ok maybe except you work with a impact gun ). ps: what jack stands did you use in the last pic with the A4 ?? (looking for stands which don`t damage the underbody) A buddies neighbor works in a similar place since decades and he just bought a moveable hydraulic lift to lift up the whole car.
some recent pics of our garage (but with 9 lessees)
Thanks !! Are there other spanish vise manufaturers ??
@lipadj46
nice tool collection !!! Harry Epstein has some great deals ! I like those wrenches too ! (and pliers + sockets + ....)
Do the insulated screwdrivers say "Spain" or "Germany" ?@moose:
thanks for the pics !!i wish my parents would let me use their garage back then (but it is even narrower, built in the 50`s for a VW Käfer...) . But as long as there is enough space and you can work on cars there it`s a very good place i think. Everything fits in there, no rent (?) (or low) i guess - and it seems to be a nice + quiet street + neighborhood (ok maybe except you work with a impact gun
). ps: what jack stands did you use in the last pic with the A4 ?? (looking for stands which don`t damage the underbody) A buddies neighbor works in a similar place since decades and he just bought a moveable hydraulic lift to lift up the whole car. some recent pics of our garage (but with 9 lessees)
Sick Puppy
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You guess right! Your remarks re: their quality sold me on them in fact, and I've now spent far far too much on tools lately because of you and this forum in general! lol@sick puppy:
I guess the Knipex and Facom pliers are better because of the piano wire inserts which are stronger than the regular pliers with forged tips.
I don`t know which ones you`d rather buy , i guess "King Tony" because the name sounds cool ???
I remember the point re: piano wire inserts, and I'm certainly inclined to go for the Knipex precision ones- I was wondering about the their pivot points/ fasteners with the torx sockets, someone here (I forget who) didn't like them for some reason? Now to decide whether to ship them from the UK or the US, and the set of four, or set of eight!
old ("real") facom wrenches. Love it!
And they were only $25 shipped from ebay.
superautobacs
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Bhae,
Is that Sandvik chisel made in Spain? I have an URKO that looks exactly like that.
Moose,
I like how you have all those green storage bins on that one wall. Are you happy with its utility?
Is that Sandvik chisel made in Spain? I have an URKO that looks exactly like that.
Moose,
I like how you have all those green storage bins on that one wall. Are you happy with its utility?
AutomatiquE
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What's the main use of a chisel in mechanic ?
y20dth
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Modifying Morgan frames.
remove rounded nuts + bolts etc.
@Sick Puppy
i don`t see any problems with the Knipex version (???) Maybe other users know something...
@lipadj46
nice tool collection !!! Harry Epstein has some great deals ! I like those wrenches too ! (and pliers + sockets + ....)
They say germany
Moose-LandTran
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@moose:
i wish my parents would let me use their garage back then (but it is even narrower, built in the 50`s for a VW Käfer...) . But as long as there is enough space and you can work on cars there it`s a very good place i think. Everything fits in there, no rent (?) (or low) i guess - and it seems to be a nice + quiet street + neighborhood (ok maybe except you work with a impact gun
some recent pics of our garage (but with 9 lessees)
It is big enough to work in, but a bit tight. With the Audi S4 in, i measured that i had 3-4" at the back, from the rear bumper to the garage door, 30" either side and 22" from the front bumper to my toolbox.
No air compressor yet, so no noise from that.
My friend who owns the S4 has a garage the same size, detached from his house with a piched roof. I may rent it from him to use as my own little shop. I would have a lot more space in there with nothing else but my toolbox and a workbench.
(And maybe a compressor, some welders, an engine stand, an engine crane.. etc.. )The S4:
Built in Germany too!
They're mostly used for storing the assorted junk we have in the garage. They'd be great for storing useful things, but we really need to clear them out properly.
JayL
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@Moose and Monte
Very Nice workshops.
I found some bargain NOS Record 4" C-Clamps.
Most of the new Record products I see here now are Made overseas. The blue shade is somewhat different from the English made ones. Even from a far you can distinguish the ones made from Sheffield.
Very Nice workshops.
I found some bargain NOS Record 4" C-Clamps.
Most of the new Record products I see here now are Made overseas. The blue shade is somewhat different from the English made ones. Even from a far you can distinguish the ones made from Sheffield.
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It is big enough to work in, but a bit tight. With the Audi S4 in, i measured that i had 3-4" at the back, from the rear bumper to the garage door, 30" either side and 22" from the front bumper to my toolbox.
No air compressor yet, so no noise from that.
My friend who owns the S4 has a garage the same size, detached from his house with a piched roof. I may rent it from him to use as my own little shop. I would have a lot more space in there with nothing else but my toolbox and a workbench.
The S4:
Built in Germany too!
If your place is too small you should hire at the new Audi shop in London....:
Nice S4 ! Some more Auto Union + Audi goddesses (not mine though
)
@lipadj46
thanks for the info !
@JayL
nice clamps !!
ps: Is this style more popular or the sliding arm clamp style ?
JayL
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@ Monte
Both the regular C-Clamp and the sliding arm clamp styles are very popular. Record use to be very big here so there are still some NOS floating around here and there.
Both the regular C-Clamp and the sliding arm clamp styles are very popular. Record use to be very big here so there are still some NOS floating around here and there.
CrustyD3mon
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ehehehe welcome aboard.....
@JayL:
In the US the C-clamps seem to be more popular , here in europe the sliding clamps, so i was wondering how the situation is in different parts of the world ! thanks !
@Bhae:
nice plane and spokeshave ! Metal planes are seldom seen here. In germany there is only 1 manufacturer left who makes metal planes: www.kunz-tsm.de
"Würth" spiral flute step drills
"Exact" sheet drill
In the US the C-clamps seem to be more popular , here in europe the sliding clamps, so i was wondering how the situation is in different parts of the world ! thanks !
@Bhae:
nice plane and spokeshave ! Metal planes are seldom seen here. In germany there is only 1 manufacturer left who makes metal planes: www.kunz-tsm.de
"Würth" spiral flute step drills
"Exact" sheet drill
I found a pair of nippers in a box of rusty stuff, and paid $1 for it since I thought it was cool. Underneath all the rust - to my surprise - I found the inscription "Occupied Germany British Zone". Guess that dates and locates the tool, eh?
@islands62:
wow nice ratchet collection !!!! Especially i like the Stahlwille ratchet on the right !! Must be old !! Do you have more pics of it ??? (handle, beam, head ???) ...
@dlfiene:
i only found this site in the US who has some Orbis pliers: www.alliedelec.com
I mailed them if they have other distributors in the US.
But they don`t make this handle style no more.
wow nice ratchet collection !!!! Especially i like the Stahlwille ratchet on the right !! Must be old !! Do you have more pics of it ??? (handle, beam, head ???) ...
@dlfiene:
i only found this site in the US who has some Orbis pliers: www.alliedelec.com
I mailed them if they have other distributors in the US.
But they don`t make this handle style no more.
Flea market finds finds from saturday:
WGB, Hazet, Matador and Gedore wrench
"Öberg" File
"Belzer" wood chisel
the handle say: "Belzeryl - Belzer - Unbreakable"
"Rubicon" screwdriver ( "Rubicon 750" - "Japan" )
"Elora Eralit" nut driver
"Usag" screwdriver
WGB, Hazet, Matador and Gedore wrench
"Öberg" File
"Belzer" wood chisel
the handle say: "Belzeryl - Belzer - Unbreakable"
"Rubicon" screwdriver ( "Rubicon 750" - "Japan" )
"Elora Eralit" nut driver
"Usag" screwdriver
CrustyD3mon
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Two old German HEYCO vs Mercedes Benz wrenches that i got here:
Hope you enjoy...and sorry the pic quality...
Hope you enjoy...and sorry the pic quality...
They are usually available in stores for the professional user. However there is one Big Box store who carry them here called Bauhaus. There are also 5 Bauhaus stores in Spain but i don`t know if they carry the german offering (Matador, Wera, Bessey, Erdi, Knipex, Wolfcraft etc.) www.bauhaus.es
Indeed they seem to be very old !! very nice !!!!
Theoretically yes. Just give them to a chrome plating shop.
VBW Waggon "Simplex-S" 1 1/2" pipe wrench
"Würth" hose pinch off pliers
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Those had a black finish when they were put in mercedes trucks toolboxes at the factory.
CrustyD3mon
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Yeh...i got them when i was kid from a mercedes truck in the junkyard... seems that they had a black finish.... any way to give them this treatment again?!
I also find a few days a mini adjustable wrench from klein & sons, made in USA... one of the first tools that i ever had....in times i repair my bycicle with them...eheh its in excelent condition....i will post some pics later....
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dede2897234
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Today, I received via FedEx overnight delivery from Japan my Nepros purchases from last week. The total came to about $150 (including shipping).
First up is a 1/4" drive, low profile metric socket set (4mm - 14mm).
A pleasant surprise is the detailing and smooth operation of the 1/4" drive socket rails. I like the extra touches such as the chrome steel round stock, the "Nepros" name appearing on both ends of the rails, and the 2 mounting holes on the ends. The most unique socket rails I have ever seen.
Next up is the Nepros angled nose plier. I own a pair of Stanley straight and angled Taiwanese pliers. I do not have confidence in the Stanley angled nose because I broke the tips off the straight tip version during normal use.
I find the Nepros mirror finish to be unique. Time will tell the durability of the finish. I also like the grippy material applied to the handles.
Next up is a 1/2" drive universal joint. I also own the 1/4" and 3/8" drive versions of the universal joints. They are indeed 13mm shorter in length than its competitors. I measured the Nepros against their equivalent Craftsman counterparts.
Lastly, I purchased a 3/8 drive, 8mm hex bit socket. It is a two piece design for durability. I wonder if they are as durable or strong as the ones made by Snap-on?
Dave
First up is a 1/4" drive, low profile metric socket set (4mm - 14mm).
A pleasant surprise is the detailing and smooth operation of the 1/4" drive socket rails. I like the extra touches such as the chrome steel round stock, the "Nepros" name appearing on both ends of the rails, and the 2 mounting holes on the ends. The most unique socket rails I have ever seen
. Next up is the Nepros angled nose plier. I own a pair of Stanley straight and angled Taiwanese pliers. I do not have confidence in the Stanley angled nose because I broke the tips off the straight tip version during normal use.
I find the Nepros mirror finish to be unique. Time will tell the durability of the finish. I also like the grippy material applied to the handles.
Next up is a 1/2" drive universal joint. I also own the 1/4" and 3/8" drive versions of the universal joints. They are indeed 13mm shorter in length than its competitors. I measured the Nepros against their equivalent Craftsman counterparts.
Lastly, I purchased a 3/8 drive, 8mm hex bit socket. It is a two piece design for durability. I wonder if they are as durable or strong as the ones made by Snap-on?
Dave
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MarcSeattle
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How much were those Nepros socket rails?
The machining on the hex bit socket sure looks nice. Or is that cast? Also, is that black ring made of rubber? Is that for gripping with greasy hands?
The machining on the hex bit socket sure looks nice. Or is that cast? Also, is that black ring made of rubber? Is that for gripping with greasy hands?
Do you have a pic (or two
I have already repainted and dipped the handles, and did not take a before pic. But I will post a after pic soon.