Tools from the old world

[Reed Prince]

Amazon Germany quickly sent me a another Gedore KD 26 R-120 double socket spanner set to replace the one that had most parts lost during shipment. Keeping them with my somewhat similar Facoms.

 

[yamahaxt6600]

Hazet 904

 

[yamahaxt6600]

Old czechoslovakian socket set Gola

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Gorgeous. What is the relationship, if any, between Tona and Gola? It's kind of hard to ignore the similarities of the case with the embossed logo. Same style, on a diagonal.

 

[Monte]

valve grinding paste

 

[FMB4]

Amazon Germany quickly sent me a another Gedore KD 26 R-120 double socket spanner set to replace the one that had most parts lost during shipment. Keeping them with my somewhat similar Facoms.

Sharp set you've got there. Btw, those 'tube' sockets are great in certain situations. They remind me what made up a part of nearly all the motorcycle tool kits I've seen going way back.

 

[Dave455]

valve grinding paste

I don’t think they’ve changed the design of those tins in 50 years! Oh well, if it aint broke don’t fix it!

 

[mr.lemons]

Knipex 'flat nose' pliers + Unior 3/8" quick release bit holder.



The pliers seem to be great. They have quite wide, comfortable handles for such small pliers. My general complaint with Knipex pliers is that the dipped handles are too skinny and the multi-component grips are too clunky. These are Goldilocks for me.





Seen a few reviews on Amazon staying the tips don't come together. These look good. Full length of the jaws come together when you squeeze the handles.



Jaws are smooth.



Unior bit holder. Bought because it was the cheapest quick release bit holder I could find with 3/8" square drive. There's not many to choose from in 3/8".





Unlikely, but was hoping the knurled collar may be useable like a spinner, but unfortunately it freely rotates.



Surprising from the finish and overbuilt design, it's not rated for impacts.

I assume it comes from a Taiwan manufacturer rather than made by Unior.

 

[mr.lemons]

Used Ebay purchase.

Very crusty tin, but the driver looks unused.

 

[six-point socket II]

1/4" hex open-end spanners.

Received mine yesterday, now I just have to wait for the 1st of December ...

In contrast to the 2020 Advent calendar, this time everything, except for the bits and two adaptors, is Made in Germany. They went above and beyond to convey that: (click to enlarge thumbnails)



I think it's a neat and fun product, will bring me some (additional) joy during Christmas time.



Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Monte]

I don’t think they’ve changed the design of those tins in 50 years! Oh well, if it aint broke don’t fix it!

The tin is one reason why i bought this


"Roto Kruna roto rasp" for angle grinders

 

[Qualitytools]

Knipex 'flat nose' pliers + Unior 3/8" quick release bit holder.



The pliers seem to be great. They have quite wide, comfortable handles for such small pliers. My general complaint with Knipex pliers is that the dipped handles are too skinny and the multi-component grips are too clunky. These are Goldilocks for me.





Seen a few reviews on Amazon staying the tips don't come together. These look good. Full length of the jaws come together when you squeeze the handles.



Jaws are smooth.



Unior bit holder. Bought because it was the cheapest quick release bit holder I could find with 3/8" square drive. There's not many to choose from in 3/8".





Unlikely, but was hoping the knurled collar may be useable like a spinner, but unfortunately it freely rotates.



Surprising from the finish and overbuilt design, it's not rated for impacts.

I assume it comes from a Taiwan manufacturer rather than made by Unior.

Regarding bit holder for 3/8 drive, I purchased a WERA a few months back and it comes in handy.

Wera 042755 3/8" Square to 1/4" Hex Adaptor with Quick-Release Chuck | Wera at KC Tool

Wera Female Square 784 B/1 Quick-Release Chuck, Adaptor 1/4" x 3/8" Drive Wera Adaptors for 1/4" and 5/16" hexagon insert bits and Wera series 1 and 2, feat...

www.kctool.com

 

[mr.lemons]

Regarding bit holder for 3/8 drive, I purchased a WERA a few months back and it comes in handy.

Wera 042755 3/8" Square to 1/4" Hex Adaptor with Quick-Release Chuck | Wera at KC Tool

Wera Female Square 784 B/1 Quick-Release Chuck, Adaptor 1/4" x 3/8" Drive Wera Adaptors for 1/4" and 5/16" hexagon insert bits and Wera series 1 and 2, feat...

www.kctool.com

Thanks. I looked at Wera and Facom EF-J, but cheaped out. I'm surprised 3/8" bit holders are not more commonly available as 3/8" seems to be the most popular ratchet size.

 

[sweet victory]

Amazon Germany quickly sent me a another Gedore KD 26 R-120 double socket spanner set to replace the one that had most parts lost during shipment. Keeping them with my somewhat similar Facoms.

I've never used those double socket spanners before - what's there advantage over a normal socket and ratchet? Nuts on really long studs?

 

[mr.lemons]

Tona / made in czechoslovakia

I've just been looking at Tona tools on ebay. Would I be right to assume that any Tona tools with shiny chrome are from after they were bought by Stanley, and therefore not made in Czech, or are there some 'modern' Tona tools that were made in Czech?

Eg. 72 tooth ratchet.

TONA Czech Ratchet 1/2'' Drive Pear Head Ratchet 72-Teeth 250mm long CrV | eBay

GENUINE TONA 1/2" Ratchet. Solid ratchet made from Chromium Vanadium Steel. Polished finish. HEAVY DUTY.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[mr.lemons]

Happened across some sparkly blue 'Diager' screwdriver bits on Amazon. Not seen 'Diager' before. They claim the bits are made in Germany.

Diager, U613T10 : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

Shop Diager, U613T10. Free delivery on eligible orders of £20 or more.

www.amazon.co.uk

Diager website

Diager, fabricant français d’outillage professionnel depuis 60 ans

Fabricant français d’outillage professionnel, Diager développe depuis plus de 60 ans dans son usine de Poligny, nichée au cœur du Jura, des forets et autres instruments de perçage, fixation, vissage et sciage pour le béton, le métal ou le bois. Notre innovation, le développement incessant de nos...

www.diager.com

Not sure if they are being fully truthful about being German. Maybe the bits are.

 

[Monte]

@Mr. Lemons: The german bit manufacturer https://www.ush-tools.com/ belongs to Diager.




"JMP" flash lights:

 

[mr.lemons]

@Mr. Lemons: The german bit manufacturer https://www.ush-tools.com/ belongs to Diager.

Thanks Monte.

Their 'nut grip' style nut setters look interesting. 'Mechanical screw holding system (ball/spring).'

 

[upgrading]

@Mr. Lemons: The german bit manufacturer https://www.ush-tools.com/ belongs to Diager.




"JMP" flash lights:

Very illuminating post Monte.
Thanks.

 

[mr.lemons]

Screw pliers from Unior.



Looks like they used promo pics from the Engineer website, but zoomed in so the Engineer logos are out of frame.

 

[Monte]

Thanks Monte.

Their 'nut grip' style nut setters look interesting. 'Mechanical screw holding system (ball/spring).'

Looks almost like the "Tone" nut grip sockets.

Very illuminating post Monte.
Thanks.

"Uvex" work gloves

 

[mr.lemons]

Wiha zai hause.

Wiha zai Hause | TOOLS THAT FIT YOUR IDEAS

wiha-zai-hause.com

New to me. Looks a lot like the Xiaomi stuff.

 

[Qualitytools]

Amazon Germany quickly sent me a another Gedore KD 26 R-120 double socket spanner set to replace the one that had most parts lost during shipment. Keeping them with my somewhat similar Facoms.

How often do you use them and on what do you use them i.e. Automotive.....?

 

[Dave455]

Amazon Germany quickly sent me a another Gedore KD 26 R-120 double socket spanner set to replace the one that had most parts lost during shipment. Keeping them with my somewhat similar Facoms.

Nice!

If you like box spanners, did you know that Gedore still offer the forged / heavy pattern now discontinued by Stahlwille and Hazet.

626/8 is the part no. of the set.

 

[mr.lemons]

626/8 is the part no. of the set.

The look nice. I've only ever seen very cheap ones.

 

[mr.lemons]

Used Stahlwille slotted screwdriver. Bought to try some variation in Swiss type slotted tips.



Tip is close enough to PB to not offer any noticeable difference in use.



Stahlwille handle is way too skinny for my liking. I cannot grip it well at all.



Handle compare to PB. PB have quite thin handles.

 

[mr.lemons]

I've seen parallel tip slotted drivers discussed a few times on screwdriver threads, but just to add my experience... I recently purchased a set of Felo slotted drivers to try after buying some phillips/pozi and liking the handles.



I live in (rent) an old house with old/antique furniture, so there are worn, mismatched slotted screws everywhere. Examples..



For these worn screws, the Stahlwille and PB tips work a lot better than the Felo tips. It's not close at all. I'm still not convinced by the rounded corners, though. I think other people have different experiences when comparing screwdriver tips, so maybe it depends on the type of screws.

Does anyone know why bits and stubby drivers are mostly parallel, and full-size drivers are mostly tapered? For prying?

 

[vwpieces]

Wiha zai hause.

Wiha zai Hause | TOOLS THAT FIT YOUR IDEAS

wiha-zai-hause.com

New to me. Looks a lot like the Xiaomi stuff.

I've had that straight electric screwdriver since that Xaiomi Zu Hause. I use it hard and it has been great.

 

[Monte]

Cooking tool

 

[upgrading]

That for the home or garage ?

 

[Loga_3]

Quali-Kraft mechanical adjustable wrench. Interesting design, and actually quite good! Until you get a whiff of dust in it and it completely locks up... Made in Japan.

 

[Bogdan M.]

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I need some information.

I found a vintage Hazet set and I want to buy it, but I don't want to pay more than it is worth.

Thanks!

 

[mr.lemons]

Gedore T-handle 1/4" square drive + Silent Gear 'ratchet' screwdriver.



The t-handle driver is pretty long at 300mm, inc the handle.



Wrong COO on the label.



I really like the size and feel of the Silent Gear driver. It's weight and balance feels pretty much like a normal screwdriver or bit driver. Maybe it's due to the lack of bit storage in the handle. The direction switch is a little fiddly, and you need to hold the shank rather than the handle when switching, which is unexpected. The mechanism has zero, or close to zero back drag. Unfortunately, I got a dud. The mechanism slips every 3-4 turns, and it doesn't lock out properly. Amazon reviews suggest this may be a common problem.

 

[corn chip]

i love me some stahlwille. ever since i got the 3/8 then i had to get the 1/4 . also some some storage case for my torq wrenches

 

[lok]

I'm still not convinced by the rounded corners, though. I think other people have different experiences when comparing screwdriver tips, so maybe it depends on the type of screws.

Round edges are more durable.
All sharp and pointed edges are weak points.

Does anyone know why bits and stubby drivers are mostly parallel, and full-size drivers are mostly tapered? For prying?

I don't know. But tapered tips are also more durable.

 

[monkeyspanners]

I see 'Expert' is now Facom rather than Britool, and has been integrated into the Facom website. Maybe for some time now. Wonder if this means that the Britool name is now completely gone. I guess Britool has been a brand associated with cheap tools long enough now that it no longer represents quality, or adds value, at least to younger generations. Used up and discarded.





I know it's unfair to say that Expert tools are 'cheap,' but it would undermine my rant a little to say 'mid-range, pretty good quality.'

I think Britool Hallmark is still a thing, they are marketed more for the automotive trade.

Been a lot of good companies ruined by Stanley Black and Decker.

 

[mobiledynamics]

- ANY Mason/Stone Guys Here-

I have a full suite of box Stabila levels already.....

Got my eyes on order from overseas a their die cast ones. Have had my eyes on their 81 Series for years, but also thinking about 83.
Lot'sa negative feedback on the vial/window on the 83 to some degree.

Love to hear some -real world feedback- if you boys over the pond is/are familiar with these 2 series of levels being discussed

 

[DAustin]

I'm thinking about ordering some Elora wrenches. How do they compare to the other German brands ?

 

[Dave455]

I'm thinking about ordering some Elora wrenches. How do they compare to the other German brands ?

Quality wise, probably comparable to the rest, certainly for wrenches.

Most of the wrenches seem to be a matte chrome. Different from the satin Stahlwille, or the part matte part polished that Hazet use, but they seem to be fairly tough.

For some years, here in the U.K, Elora was sold through the agricultural suppliers. I can think of a couple of farm workshops with Elora (or a mixture of Elora and older British) above the bench.

I’ve got a couple of odd wrenches in the bigger metric sizes. Got ‘em used for little money as Elora are less well known than some. Seem to be decent. I own some of the “midget” wrenches too. I can think of a couple of makers who struggle with these but the Elora are nice. Different finish too.

 

[Dave455]

The look nice. I've only ever seen very cheap ones.

Yes, a friend had a Stahlwille set of the same style. I hadn’t fully appreciated them till then.

There was one job he occasionally had to do (removing the leadscrew from a lathe) that involved removing a nut, within a recess, at one end of 3 foot leadscrew.

These were the only tools that would do it, and was obviously how the machine was assembled. He had to use an open ender on the hex portion of the box spanner, which is why the regular box spanners won’t do this job!