JayL
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Koken Screwdrivers w/ striking caps and magnetic tips.
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Tools from the old world
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JayL
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Koken Pozidrv
ok i never looked at the Ikea stuff
Last time i was at Möbel Kraft and once at Möbel Höffner... So if you say its good i`ll believe you and consider Ikea too yes plus a bunch of individual punches...
(Format, Promat, Dako, Gedore etc.). BUT i want a set in metal case for at home and maybe a spare set The prices are not too high: click. PB is quite expensive....hmm red case ? interesting, do you have a pic ?
Have you seen Magic combination pliers in real? If yes, how did you like the finish?
As for recoilless hammers, don't forget to buy one from PB.
not yet. "Magic" tools are difficult to find - only saw the 3pc. pliers set from last year here. So i will order one "out of the blue". Can´t go wrong.
PB hammers are quite expensive, especially in 50mm, but their rounded head is interesting. I already have a 30mm (Habero), 40mm (Halder) and 60mm (Format/Halder) recoilless hammer. Wiha would be nice too because they´re blue
just looked in the catalogs: Halder + Gedore same length (wood + metal handle) Supercraft 3 component handle is longer though. Wiha metal + wood handle longer than Gedore + Halder.I hadn't planned to get a new jigsaw, either. I ask myself what the top-of-the-notch jigsaws will look like in 2045.
A Fein BOP 10-2 - good idea, since you don't any drills, yet.
I do wonder why you purchased the Metabo 5" ROS. Does it make sense for you to own a 5" (Metabo) ROS and a 6" (Festool or Rupes) ROS?
i think you can´t make them any better than the recent Mafell or Festool version. Maybe a combination of both... (weight of the Festool + features with features and rod of the Mafell)
yeah i know I´m lack of drills so its a must to get me one of these
No but thats exactly what I´m looking for - a small light weight, ergonomic drill up to 10mm with 2 speed with chuck with spindle lock, min. 500 watt and 5 mtr. cable. Then i looked at every manufacturers catalog and found the Fein with exactly these specifications
what a coincidence I found the Metabo SXE 425 sander for about 30% off retail so i sold my old Bosch PEX 400 sander because i was not too happy with it (too many vibrations) so thats basically the reason i have a 5" sander because i had a 5" sander before and it was cheap
On the other hand i should have gotten the SXE 450 with 6" pad because it is much easier to find good sand paper for 6" sanders. 5" almost impossible.... (except Festool). 5" single hand models like the Metabo FSX 200 or similar models are quite practical if you hold the work piece with one hand and sand with the other or for vertical surfaces or small spots which you want to sand where 6" is too big etc. The FSX 200 did cost me 19,95 at A.T.U. . The 6" Rupes i own is a air tool, but i want to have a 6" electric tool too. Congrats. I guess "Lidl lohnt sich".
yup
@dlfiene
nice stuff !!!!!!!
@epiphany
nice Bertool screwdrivers !!!!!!!! I know them from somewhere !?!?
ahh just found mine.... i already thought that...... Do you know a good online store for Padre ?
there are better "Energy stations" (Energieampel) out there but not for 19,95
@JayL:
nice screwdrivers !!
Reminds me on these "Bahr" screwdrivers made by Lancer/yih cheng.
Notice the driver on top with striking cap:
A while ago i bought this sand blast gun. But the "recovery" system don´t work properly. So i took this gun.....
....and my other gun.....
.....and fabricated this:
Now it works
impulse922
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Quick question for you germans.. I'm looking at buying a set of deep box end wrenches.... I'm torn between the Gedore's and the Stahlwille's.. any input? (the gedore's are ~$40 cheaper)
JayL
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@ Monte - as always your tool knowledge is so extensive. The Bahr and the Koken screwdrives posted looks so alike in design and manufacture that I wonder if these came from the same factory. Is Koken farming out their screwdrivers manufacturing now?
I don't see the Koken Spin Handle you posted in the catalog I have. Is that a 3/8" wobble type?
How do you think about these Koken T-Handles?
Thanks
I don't see the Koken Spin Handle you posted in the catalog I have. Is that a 3/8" wobble type?
How do you think about these Koken T-Handles?
Thanks
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Servus,
The quality of the Gedore and Stahlwille wrenches should be comparably high. Whether you opt for one or another is primarily a matter of personal preferences, such as finish and design. Of course, price may matter as well.
Stahlwille would be my choice because I like the finish and the shape of the ends (especially the curve where the offset part begins) better.
Hope this helps,
Chreese
The quality of the Gedore and Stahlwille wrenches should be comparably high. Whether you opt for one or another is primarily a matter of personal preferences, such as finish and design. Of course, price may matter as well.
Stahlwille would be my choice because I like the finish and the shape of the ends (especially the curve where the offset part begins) better.
Hope this helps,
Chreese
Moose-LandTran
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Have a look at Elora too if they're available. I have lots of Elora wrenches and love them.
impulse922
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will do, thanks for the suggestion!
Thanks!
The curve where the offset begins appears to be much tighter on the stahlwille's than the gedore(and elora too). I'll probably get the stahlwilles because they also come with a 21mm, others dont for some odd reason. (couple 21mm bolts on my car anyways).
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Moose-LandTran
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That's the set i'm looking at. The not having a 21mm is strange, as it's pretty common. I really like Eloras though and they match my other ones. Will report back when i get them.
Yes, now I realize that I bought many ratcheting wrenches, when I decided to build my toolbox a few months ago, I couldn't decide which ratcheting wrench set I should buy, so I bought them all
I didn't want to stick with Facom, so I tried some American brands which had been reviewed on this forum. I have some Gearwrench, Armstrong and Blackhawk, as they're USA brands, made in Taïwan (Armstrong's are made in USA!), I don't know if this post is the best place to talk about them. I'll make a post to present myself and my tools, but Blackhawk are my favorites!
Here are some closer pics of my toolbox:
<a href="http://s739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/?action=view¤t=IMG_0431.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/IMG_0431.jpg" border="0" alt="Toolbox L"></a>
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Some pics of the Facom ratchet set
1/2, 3/8, 1/4
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1/2
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3/8, J.360 ratchet with rotary handle, I love it, you don't even use it in normal ratcheting as it's so quick when turning the handle.
<a href="http://s739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/?action=view¤t=IMG_0408.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/IMG_0408.jpg" border="0" alt="Facom 3/8 ratchet set"></a>
<a href="http://s739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/?action=view¤t=IMG_0401.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/cantause/IMG_0401.jpg" border="0" alt="Facom 3/8 ratchet"></a>
1/4
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@ y20dth
Thanks for the link! I googled a bit Dremmeler and found this promotional brochure with prices: http://www.demmeler.com/pdf/139_ECO_September_2008_ansicht.pdf
it's not cheap but i expected it would be higher, still "affordable" for a small one, I hope I'll earn enough to buy one
@monte
Drilling a plain table seems a good idea, making the clamping tools too, it seems that you can spend much more money in accessories than in the table itself...
Unfortunately I don't have a mill...
Anyway these tables really rock, welding complicated shapes must be so pleasant with that kind of tools...
this is a great ratchet set, i have one of these at work and are great at hand when operating on vaccumm pumps and motors!! also nice collection of tool:
I know a online store for Padre, bought from that shop once and can't complain. But the prices are high. The prices at the flyer (ActionPac 2010) are the same as in the shop, if the flyer shows prices without tax. Search "WMIK" and take a look. If you only want to buy a pair of chisels, the shipping costs may stop you from that plan (8,90 Euro).
wafrederick
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Witte is another German tool company.I have some Matco screwdrivers that are made by Witte.Witte makes Matco's screwdrivers.My Matco dealer has said Knipex make the best pliers out there and I agree him.Have a pair of Matco needle nose pliers too,tool part number PNC8 that are Knipex pliers and this pair is my most favorite pair of needle nose pliers.
Elroy picked this #2 Phillip Wera up the other day. We never really considered them especially the handle as it looks like a *** boy **** plug
The fact it's made in the Czech Republic, didn't help matters
But this Laser etched tip WORKS! It really bites the screw and Elroy is looking forward to using it.
The fact it's made in the Czech Republic, didn't help matters
But this Laser etched tip WORKS! It really bites the screw and Elroy is looking forward to using it.
Moose-LandTran
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And what's wrong with the Czech Republic?
wafrederick
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I do have the Fein Multimaster for German made power tools and this is one great German made power tool I have bought
Nothing really. Never been there. Time will tell if they make good screw drivers.
I don´t know about their screwdrivers - i once emailed Ko-ken but never got a reply. Maybe they or the others have a license to make them or they borrowed the die/form for the handle or some one makes the handles and the other companies buy them etc. ??? For me they look the same, even the amount of "*******" is the same ...
Yes thats a Koken "Wobble-Fix" T-Handle in 3/8" part.no.: 3716
I don´t have any of them, i also don´t use my sliding T-Handle. Some members here seem to use these T-handles for motorcycle work etc. There are a couple of posts about the "Motio-Pro" handles as well as the Blue-point ones with the sleeve and PB Swiss also has one.
@impulse922:
like Chreese already wrote it´s a matter of personal preferences. A rough sandblasted finish like Gedore or a more smooth "vibratory finishing" finish like Stahlwille. If you have worked mostly with american tools (Snap-on, polished craftsman etc.) until now you might prefer the Stahlwille wrenches, if you have raised panel craftsman wrenches or want a good grip with oily hands then the Gedore wrenches might be a good choice. From the material qualities they probably will be the same. Elora is somewhere in between both finishes. For tight spaces the Stahlwilles are the best because of their differently designed box ends. Attention: If you seek perfect finished wrenches (surface finish without blemish, inscription perfect etc.) then i would look at the tools before...or buy taiwanese
Thx ! Found the link, but it seems they only sell the tools in packs of 10 pieces. If i put a 2mm punch in the cart for example it says 18,23 Euro. But i only need one for 1,82.... I`ll give Padre a call..... I`d like to order some special chisels like this one.
A honest salesman ! wow !
So how does the **** plug feel... in your hand ???
Does it work ? That´s always the most important part of a tool....Design is only secondary.
it´s not part of the USA
They make great drills and angle grinders too
btw: Elora:
So how does the **** plug feel... in your hand ???
It's too small.
The handle that is
You need to seek other council as to application as a **** Plug
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Moose-LandTran
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Monte, do you prefer your wrenches like Elora 205s (with the deeper "step"/offset for the ring end) like the the 203s/Elofort No.3?
I love my 205s. Love the offset angle.
I love my 205s. Love the offset angle.
JayL
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Can anybody confirm the COO of this Wera set please.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001NQQCM/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Thanks
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001NQQCM/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Thanks
The green ones are designed in Germany, but made in Czech Republic (as most Wera products are). The Wera Kraftform Plus Chiseldriver with Pound-Thru Blade (i.e. yellow handle) are Made in Germany. Wera makes good products so I would not worry about it too much. Their laser tips are very good.
JayL
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@ Hazet
Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the reply.
Moose-LandTran
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Some Irazola screwdrivers from Spain:
Excellent quality, and very good price.
Excellent quality, and very good price.
Vinko
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Wondering what you guys in Europe wear for industry or the trades when you need solid trousers. I've been using the Union-made in USA Carhartt's which my European friends like (and like the fact that the prices here are so cheap). It's the only work trouser I don't wear out, or don't get snagged and ripped on metal, etc. The production of these, I understand, are getting cut to some degree. And the overseas-made Carhartt's I have found aren't worth the money and even 50% of the price.
Anyway, I picked up a pair of Blakader from Sweden, through McFeeley's. They were made in Sri Lanka (a bit of a disappointment, but I should've known it since they were only about $45), but they seem pretty solid and for the summer, if you need long trousers, a decent option because some of them are really lightweight but don't seem like they'll fall apart.
But I'm wondering what else there is out there.
http://www.blakladerusa.com/products/
Anyway, I picked up a pair of Blakader from Sweden, through McFeeley's. They were made in Sri Lanka (a bit of a disappointment, but I should've known it since they were only about $45), but they seem pretty solid and for the summer, if you need long trousers, a decent option because some of them are really lightweight but don't seem like they'll fall apart.
But I'm wondering what else there is out there.
http://www.blakladerusa.com/products/
superautobacs
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@JayL:
nice screwdrivers !!
Reminds me on these "Bahr" screwdrivers made by Lancer/yih cheng.
Notice the driver on top with striking cap:
Mmm, nippled handles.
....AFAIK, according to the author of Factory Gear magazine (The link will tell you a bit about the magazine), he states that Ko-ken's handle is the original; everything else is a copy.
Although I'm not a huge fan of the looks, it provides a tremendous amount of grip.
y20dth
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I started a thread a couple of weeks ago, asking what the US guys bought as workwear.
In Europe, at least Belgium, Germany etc... you wear what your boss hands you.
I bought some Team Facom overalls for personal use, and was rather disappointed when it came to durability.I'm still looking for the perfect overalls or workwear in general.
Some Irazola screwdrivers from Spain:
Excellent quality, and very good price.
Those look alot like Bahco 600 series:
The 5 piece set were for sale here, i might be buying one.
Moose-LandTran
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Those look alot like Bahco 600 series:
The 5 piece set were for sale here, i might be buying one.
They appear the same. These ones say Spain on them, so they're made by Irazola here. Snap-on owns Bahco and Irazola, so that explains the sharing between brands.
Bought 8 more today..
Some Irazola screwdrivers from Spain:
Excellent quality, and very good price.
Price? where you buy?
I have a somewhat off-topic question for the European folks on this thread: I want to buy screwdrivers as a surprise gift for a European friend. Are Phillips and slotted fasteners the most common, like in the U.S.? I notice European cos. like Facom emphasize Pozidrive more than U.S.-focused firms.Fwiw, he repairs farm equipment.
Thank you for any comments.
Thank you for any comments.
It's too small.
The handle that is
You need to seek other council as to application as a **** Plug
I already found Witte handles to fit well ..... in my hands
Screwdrivers are intended to drive screws, everything else is misuse so i wouldn´t use them as a **** plug if i would be you !
I have the Hazet 600N wrenches which have the 15 degree angled box. The reason i bought them was that they are slightly longer and have a thicker jaw and taller box than the Hazet 603 (10 degree offset box) and most competitors (length for 13mm wrenches for example: Hazet 603: 193mm, Hazet 600: 160mm, Elora 205: 180mm, Gedore 1B: 185mm.
So i thought they will be stronger. I couldn´t find any problems while using them, sometimes a flat wrench (zero degree) or deep offset wrench fits better , to clear obstacles. But like 90% of the time i can use the combination wrenches with 15 degree angle.
I´m currently building a set with the offset so i will see in the future which i´ll like more...
@Vinko
i once had a pair of Carhartt trousers, they´re pretty good because of the double layer of cloth. Lasted a long time (but not used as work pants though
)There are a couple of well known work clothes "manufacturers" next to Blakläder here in Europe, but i don´t know if they still produce here, in most cases i think not: Fristads www.fristads.com , Kansas www.kansas.dk/int/ , Wenaas www.wenaasusa.com , Bierbaum Proenen www.bp-feelthedifference.de , Snickers www.snickersworkwear.com , Helly Hansen www.hhworkwear.com ,Planam www.planam.de , FHB www.fhb.de , Rofa www.rofa.de
PZ you´ll find usually used for wood screws , PH everything else. So if he is a woodworker then PZ if not PH. PH also fits in PZ but not vice versa so i would go with PH. Except if you´re a real good friend then you get a slotted/PH/PZ set for him
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I have a question about a manufacturer. Came across this wrench (sorry about the pic, only had my phone cam):
Marked as "LION BRAND" and "MADE IN ENGLAND". Googled on Lion Brand, but they seems to have nothing to do with tools. Does anyone have some knowledge to origins?
The plier also in the picture is a Berg, a swedish (made in the town of Eskilstuna) brand that was bought by Bahco.
Marked as "LION BRAND" and "MADE IN ENGLAND". Googled on Lion Brand, but they seems to have nothing to do with tools. Does anyone have some knowledge to origins?
The plier also in the picture is a Berg, a swedish (made in the town of Eskilstuna) brand that was bought by Bahco.
Moose-LandTran
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Torx T20 4.70e
Torx T25 4.90e
Don't remember the other prices, 5-7e each. From shops in Fuengirola near Malaga.
Do you stock Irazola, Bhae?
superautobacs
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How do you think about these Koken T-Handles?
Thanks
I'm not sure whether you're looking for really long lengths like 600mm, but if 250mm fits your needs, take a look at their new release (I want one
): http://www.koken-tool.co.jp/imgs/panflets/KOKEN201006.pdfAny hunters or soldiers here ? I found the right pliers for you
Interesting... I'd sure like to see the leather handles after getting some use. It seems like each pair of pliers is one off as the leather pattern is never duplicated. That makes it an easy way to own a one-of-a-kind.
New release from 3 Peaks The grip pattern reminds me of a Japanese katana (sword) wrap. I want
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I don't have Irazola in stock Moose.
Model: Sensor T-20= 3.68€ list price + iva(18%)
Model: Sensor T-25= 4.26€ list price + iva(18%)
I just bought the set i was talking about. €15 for the set of 6, half price.
While i was there i also bought:
€14, half price also. No COO though, so probably china made.
Any hunters or soldiers here ? I found the right pliers for you
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Nice haha
Where can these be bought from?